I agree with you on this. There is far more than enough precedent cases that have already settled on this matter. The court would consider Bethesda's case a moot point of law. They would lose before the suit even started really. This is actually a case of extreme greed. It is so obvious they might as well post neon signs above their head. Sad....... but not surprising.
I agree with what you said. I've been in computers for 48 years now. Used MS since the early 80's. But that said, the first day they implement the Daas system, i will turn off my computor. Install ReactOS and go on down the road. I have had it with the idiot running MS. I don't like him or his policies. I have 2 computers with W10 and 2 with W7. One of the 10 also dual boots to Mint Linux. And one of the 7 also boots to ReactOS. Nice thing is The ReactOS runs on the old machines and new machines both quite nicely. I may be 65 but still love to game and that is the ONLY thing stopping me from full blown linux all the time.
But if they implement the final nail in their coffin Daas, I will do it anyhow. And I am not alone. I believe a lot of business and countries will also follow suit. Many people and places are really tired of the shit from MS and their attitude of "Screw you, we don't care what you want. You'll take what we cram down your throat." Yes some sheep will accept that. There are always some sheep and always will be. But I don't believe that will include most people. Hell who knows it may force a a group of very smart people who have a ton of money to write a new OS that will run over MS like a steam roller. Crazier things have happened.
I see a lot of explanations and excuses on both sides of this debate being given. But whether you agree or not, the military is the only line between those who would harm you and your ability to even disagree.
Be a Russian citizen and "disagree" with the govenment. Or their military. You will end up in a camp in some frozen forgotten land. Or dead.
It has long been known and still is, that the USA has long been the only country many times who stood up for and defended country's who were under attack from some other country who thought it was their right to take their country.
Without all the rhetoric or fancy exlanations there is one simple word for those who refuse to defend the country they live in. The country who defends them so that they even have the right to run their mouth. Who would refuse to defend it or their fellow citizens.
You do not have to be military to do your part. Sometimes your part is as simple as "writing code". Oh and that one word for those who actively work against helping or even work against your own govenement.
That word has never changed. Traitor
After reading the replies to this thread I can say it does my heart good to see the vast majority of the people here actually agree it was a really dick move on the commentator's part. Thanks to all of you for restoring some of my faith in humanity and the people who post here. It can get pretty toxic sometimes. Nice to see pretty much everyone agrees Edison needs proscecuted and the asshats making the rude, nasty comments were indeed slugs who needed to crawl back under the rock they came from. THANKS TO ALL YOU./ POSTERS!
I already told you I believe the poll is corrupt, fake, rigged. Whatever choice of words you choose to use. Semantics. And I speak businessease. In other words you wouldn't hire him because you are afaid he would tell on you for something that isn't..... well lets be nice. Something isn't "just quite right" in your company. It is not about your "intellectual" property or customer list to competitors That has nothing to do with the corruption and violation of the American public he brought light to. Because what he released is what scumbags our government is and what kind of ILLEGAL, corrupt things they do . How THEY stab their friiends in the back. How they violate the Constitution of the United States. So please no pious speech.
Funny, that would inclue 90% if not more of the people's resume. Pretty much every human being seeking a job "embellishes" their resume. So if they are capable of doing the job and DO do the job well. I don't care. And I would still hire him and so would many business men I know. I'm 61 and from my many years in business I know quite a few and some are very, very wealthy.
What Snowden did was the right thing. Period. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. TRUTH
Really? How do you know? Have you taken a poll? Have you talked to most business owners in America? Because the poll in question I consider false evidence. I think the majority of business owners would hire him. Unless of course they were corrupt. Are you telling me then that not only is our government corrupt but so are most business owners. Because a honest man would hire him in a heart beat. So pardon me if I find fault with your logic.
Then you'd be wrong. If I still had my ISP service I'd hire him today. Because I know he'd do what is best for this country. Because he actually cares about the American PEOPLE. If he "faces the music" or not is of no consequence what so ever. Chances are extremely good the trial would be rigged as well. I trust the NSA about as far as I can throw the State House. He has suffered, more than you I'd dare say. He does not have to die for him to be a hero. Let me clear something up for you. A hero does not have to die for his country in war time. He makes the OTHER guy die for his. The atrocities that the government has committed against the American people can no longer be tolerated. We need more people who "tell" on them when the violate the law, violate the constitution, and when the violate our basic human rights.
I'm 61 and I submitted him for the Nobel. I find what he did a great act of patriotism. I love America, I am also ashamed of my crooked government. I think this is a fake, biased, rigged poll. I have about as much faith in it as I do the tooth fairy.
I like your idea a LOT. I agree it is time. They have screwed the public long enough. My friends in other countries call my 24 meg connection "welfare internet" and that I pay 4 times too much for it. As funny as that is, it is also just as true. Now would be a good time to do something. They are FCC is deciding today. I personally have already signed a number of petition to try and save all our asses. I don't know if it will be enough. With everyone's help it might be.
I think to use a old analogy would be appropriate here. You do not put a fox in the henhouse. Ever. I don't care if it's be a family pet for 10 years. It is never a good idea. Never.
I have to apologize. I was wrong. Upon further investigation into what happened and proof of it. It would appear Mr Eich was in the wrong. While his resignation may or may not be legal or whatever. His attempt to control people's moral/political choices was wrong. I should have looked deeper and normally do. This was my failure to double check the facts. I'm sorry.
OK lets get back to the original question. Do I believe Google bullied Eich into resigning? I think perhaps a better question would be who doesn't? The answer is so obvious they have done everything but put up a neon sign. And since everyone seems so concerned in making the issue about his believe in prop 8, OK. I'll give you MY opinion. EVERYONE deserves the same rights. It is justice for ALL, not except Bob over there. People do not just wake up one day and go "Hey think I'll be gay today!". They are born with that sexual preference. Everyone should be treated fairly and I don't think Mr Eich has been.
Irregardless of whatever reason is used to not give the peanut butter to poor hungry people is wrong. Yes I realize how bad our "sue everyone" society is. And that is wrong as well. I realize they want to sell, not give food away. I assure you I realize all the reasonable reasons involved. BUT the bottom line is it is always wrong to destroy good food that people who can't afford to buy it, people that are hungry and need it. We have the technology to feed every human on this planet and for companies to still make a profit. Literally. There is no reason for any child to go to bed hungry in any country. Oh wait there is one. Greed.
I would normally make a long statement but this truly is easy. Prosecute for what? Exposing criminals? He doesn't need pardoned. HE DID NOTHING WRONG. It is NOT a crime to expose criminals performing criminal acts. In fact it is your duty according to the Constitution of the United States. DO YOUR JOB PEOPLE. Thanks.:)
No I am not joking. Given China's history are abusing and murdering it's own citizens, this is a likely suspect. If this is true, it is not only insane. it should be criminal. I may be wrong, if so, someone tell me why they would release this in a nations water supply for any other reason. It is sad we say we live in a age of military/social insanity where atrocities are committed against people in the name of whatever is convenient at the time to blame. It is a shame such a small group of people are so capable of harming so many people. But group mentality has always been that way. A few people can terrorize a large crowd. sigh...........
Do they NEED a reason to do anything? They do some things just because they CAN! For them that is enough reason to do ANYTHING. Sigh............oh and you kids get off my lawn!!
Let me see your notepad, ipad, or phone play this. STAR CITIZEN
This is just ONE example. It is not the only one. There are more. Business programs. Games, etc. Dead? I don't think so.
First I think the 50th special was amazing! It was in my favorite episode of all time. They did such a great job of bringing all 3 Doctors together. And John Hurt did a superb job! But then he's always been a top level actor. My favorite Doctor use to be Tom Baker. I loved him. I could not wait for Doctor Who with him to come on every week. But since David and Matt have come onboard, I now have 3 favorites. I find myself unable to choose between the 3. I find them of equal talent, just different. I am very, very excited to see the new Doctor in his first episode. I WANT A TARDIS!!
Are you kidding me? Do not ever doubt the governments ability to break something. They are the kings of breaking things. They might not be able to fix it, but they sure could break it.
OK are these guys insane? Why don't they just have all the musicians arrested so they can't write music that people will download. And how about going to kindergarten and getting all those lawbreaking students humming songs they heard on the radio? Oh oh oh, wait they need to get those radio stations that are playing those songs too. And Walmart, Target, K-Mart, etc need some take down notices for selling that music. I'm sure if they all come together and try really hard they will be able to single handed destroy the music industry for many, many years to come. Hell it could take centuries before anyone would even consider writing a song.
OK we know from MS history they treated customers poorly. We know they treated mom & pop shops poorly. They treated the companies that make apps for them poorly. Now we find out they even treated the employees poorly. Honest question, did they ever treat anyone right? I mean besides the management figures making 7 figures. Wait, that might not even be true. Wow, sure am glad I never worked there.
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I agree with you on this. There is far more than enough precedent cases that have already settled on this matter. The court would consider Bethesda's case a moot point of law. They would lose before the suit even started really. This is actually a case of extreme greed. It is so obvious they might as well post neon signs above their head. Sad....... but not surprising.
I agree with what you said. I've been in computers for 48 years now. Used MS since the early 80's. But that said, the first day they implement the Daas system, i will turn off my computor. Install ReactOS and go on down the road. I have had it with the idiot running MS. I don't like him or his policies. I have 2 computers with W10 and 2 with W7. One of the 10 also dual boots to Mint Linux. And one of the 7 also boots to ReactOS. Nice thing is The ReactOS runs on the old machines and new machines both quite nicely. I may be 65 but still love to game and that is the ONLY thing stopping me from full blown linux all the time. But if they implement the final nail in their coffin Daas, I will do it anyhow. And I am not alone. I believe a lot of business and countries will also follow suit. Many people and places are really tired of the shit from MS and their attitude of "Screw you, we don't care what you want. You'll take what we cram down your throat." Yes some sheep will accept that. There are always some sheep and always will be. But I don't believe that will include most people. Hell who knows it may force a a group of very smart people who have a ton of money to write a new OS that will run over MS like a steam roller. Crazier things have happened.
I see a lot of explanations and excuses on both sides of this debate being given. But whether you agree or not, the military is the only line between those who would harm you and your ability to even disagree. Be a Russian citizen and "disagree" with the govenment. Or their military. You will end up in a camp in some frozen forgotten land. Or dead. It has long been known and still is, that the USA has long been the only country many times who stood up for and defended country's who were under attack from some other country who thought it was their right to take their country. Without all the rhetoric or fancy exlanations there is one simple word for those who refuse to defend the country they live in. The country who defends them so that they even have the right to run their mouth. Who would refuse to defend it or their fellow citizens. You do not have to be military to do your part. Sometimes your part is as simple as "writing code". Oh and that one word for those who actively work against helping or even work against your own govenement. That word has never changed. Traitor
After reading the replies to this thread I can say it does my heart good to see the vast majority of the people here actually agree it was a really dick move on the commentator's part. Thanks to all of you for restoring some of my faith in humanity and the people who post here. It can get pretty toxic sometimes. Nice to see pretty much everyone agrees Edison needs proscecuted and the asshats making the rude, nasty comments were indeed slugs who needed to crawl back under the rock they came from. THANKS TO ALL YOU ./ POSTERS!
I already told you I believe the poll is corrupt, fake, rigged. Whatever choice of words you choose to use. Semantics. And I speak businessease. In other words you wouldn't hire him because you are afaid he would tell on you for something that isn't..... well lets be nice. Something isn't "just quite right" in your company. It is not about your "intellectual" property or customer list to competitors That has nothing to do with the corruption and violation of the American public he brought light to. Because what he released is what scumbags our government is and what kind of ILLEGAL, corrupt things they do . How THEY stab their friiends in the back. How they violate the Constitution of the United States. So please no pious speech. Funny, that would inclue 90% if not more of the people's resume. Pretty much every human being seeking a job "embellishes" their resume. So if they are capable of doing the job and DO do the job well. I don't care. And I would still hire him and so would many business men I know. I'm 61 and from my many years in business I know quite a few and some are very, very wealthy. What Snowden did was the right thing. Period. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. TRUTH
Really? How do you know? Have you taken a poll? Have you talked to most business owners in America? Because the poll in question I consider false evidence. I think the majority of business owners would hire him. Unless of course they were corrupt. Are you telling me then that not only is our government corrupt but so are most business owners. Because a honest man would hire him in a heart beat. So pardon me if I find fault with your logic.
Then you'd be wrong. If I still had my ISP service I'd hire him today. Because I know he'd do what is best for this country. Because he actually cares about the American PEOPLE. If he "faces the music" or not is of no consequence what so ever. Chances are extremely good the trial would be rigged as well. I trust the NSA about as far as I can throw the State House. He has suffered, more than you I'd dare say. He does not have to die for him to be a hero. Let me clear something up for you. A hero does not have to die for his country in war time. He makes the OTHER guy die for his. The atrocities that the government has committed against the American people can no longer be tolerated. We need more people who "tell" on them when the violate the law, violate the constitution, and when the violate our basic human rights.
I'm 61 and I submitted him for the Nobel. I find what he did a great act of patriotism. I love America, I am also ashamed of my crooked government. I think this is a fake, biased, rigged poll. I have about as much faith in it as I do the tooth fairy.
Oh yes I PROMISE! The checks in the mail. I'll call you tomorrow. It's only a cold sore. I ................
I like your idea a LOT. I agree it is time. They have screwed the public long enough. My friends in other countries call my 24 meg connection "welfare internet" and that I pay 4 times too much for it. As funny as that is, it is also just as true. Now would be a good time to do something. They are FCC is deciding today. I personally have already signed a number of petition to try and save all our asses. I don't know if it will be enough. With everyone's help it might be.
I think to use a old analogy would be appropriate here. You do not put a fox in the henhouse. Ever. I don't care if it's be a family pet for 10 years. It is never a good idea. Never.
I have to apologize. I was wrong. Upon further investigation into what happened and proof of it. It would appear Mr Eich was in the wrong. While his resignation may or may not be legal or whatever. His attempt to control people's moral/political choices was wrong. I should have looked deeper and normally do. This was my failure to double check the facts. I'm sorry.
OK lets get back to the original question. Do I believe Google bullied Eich into resigning? I think perhaps a better question would be who doesn't? The answer is so obvious they have done everything but put up a neon sign. And since everyone seems so concerned in making the issue about his believe in prop 8, OK. I'll give you MY opinion. EVERYONE deserves the same rights. It is justice for ALL, not except Bob over there. People do not just wake up one day and go "Hey think I'll be gay today!". They are born with that sexual preference. Everyone should be treated fairly and I don't think Mr Eich has been.
Irregardless of whatever reason is used to not give the peanut butter to poor hungry people is wrong. Yes I realize how bad our "sue everyone" society is. And that is wrong as well. I realize they want to sell, not give food away. I assure you I realize all the reasonable reasons involved. BUT the bottom line is it is always wrong to destroy good food that people who can't afford to buy it, people that are hungry and need it. We have the technology to feed every human on this planet and for companies to still make a profit. Literally. There is no reason for any child to go to bed hungry in any country. Oh wait there is one. Greed.
I would normally make a long statement but this truly is easy. Prosecute for what? Exposing criminals? He doesn't need pardoned. HE DID NOTHING WRONG. It is NOT a crime to expose criminals performing criminal acts. In fact it is your duty according to the Constitution of the United States. DO YOUR JOB PEOPLE. Thanks. :)
It's always beer-thrity somewhere in the world!!
No I am not joking. Given China's history are abusing and murdering it's own citizens, this is a likely suspect. If this is true, it is not only insane. it should be criminal. I may be wrong, if so, someone tell me why they would release this in a nations water supply for any other reason. It is sad we say we live in a age of military/social insanity where atrocities are committed against people in the name of whatever is convenient at the time to blame. It is a shame such a small group of people are so capable of harming so many people. But group mentality has always been that way. A few people can terrorize a large crowd. sigh...........
Do they NEED a reason to do anything? They do some things just because they CAN! For them that is enough reason to do ANYTHING. Sigh............oh and you kids get off my lawn!!
Let me see your notepad, ipad, or phone play this. STAR CITIZEN This is just ONE example. It is not the only one. There are more. Business programs. Games, etc. Dead? I don't think so.
First I think the 50th special was amazing! It was in my favorite episode of all time. They did such a great job of bringing all 3 Doctors together. And John Hurt did a superb job! But then he's always been a top level actor. My favorite Doctor use to be Tom Baker. I loved him. I could not wait for Doctor Who with him to come on every week. But since David and Matt have come onboard, I now have 3 favorites. I find myself unable to choose between the 3. I find them of equal talent, just different. I am very, very excited to see the new Doctor in his first episode. I WANT A TARDIS!!
Are you kidding me? Do not ever doubt the governments ability to break something. They are the kings of breaking things. They might not be able to fix it, but they sure could break it.
You're preachin to the choir. :D My point had nothing to do with "reality" and everything to do with humor. :D
OK are these guys insane? Why don't they just have all the musicians arrested so they can't write music that people will download. And how about going to kindergarten and getting all those lawbreaking students humming songs they heard on the radio? Oh oh oh, wait they need to get those radio stations that are playing those songs too. And Walmart, Target, K-Mart, etc need some take down notices for selling that music. I'm sure if they all come together and try really hard they will be able to single handed destroy the music industry for many, many years to come. Hell it could take centuries before anyone would even consider writing a song.
If Mark Zuckerberg isn't Satan, he is at least a close relative.
OK we know from MS history they treated customers poorly. We know they treated mom & pop shops poorly. They treated the companies that make apps for them poorly. Now we find out they even treated the employees poorly. Honest question, did they ever treat anyone right? I mean besides the management figures making 7 figures. Wait, that might not even be true. Wow, sure am glad I never worked there.