A good model for EVM would actually be the Navada Gaming commission for slot machines and the like
Oh, come on now, let's get real. The Gaming commision is dealing with things of importance: MONEY! Surely you can't expect entities to treat votes with the same importance as money? That's just silly, as evidenced by the cavalier attitude our elected officials treat the vote.
How can the way you pronounce the name of an author POSSIBLY indicate that you read the book rather than just hearing about it?
*sigh*
I never said "it showed that I obtained that knowledge by reading,".
BY READING. I didn't say BY READING THE BOOK.
It's like my Mom; she was in some kind of college course, and said "Frood". Not "Freud" but "Frood". Obviously, she had learned of what she was speaking by READING. Not necessarily by reading Freud, but reading OF Frood. Had she heard of Frood in a lecture, or on TV, she would have pronounced it properly.
I expect most people who've read a book can pronounce the author's name correctly
Would you have properly pronounced "Goethe" if you had never heard it? Once again, I never read Faust, but read ABOUT it.
I was at a book store, and the clerk was shelving with another clerk, and said "Le Gooin". I corrected her, "Le Guin". Totally understandable.
Any one fact by itself is "useless trivia". But assorted "useless trivia" questions are just a way of gathering a random sampling of the entire body of knowledge that someone has.
I remember when I was having my head shrinked. The psychiatrist gave me a battery of tests. He asked me about 10 'useless trivia' questions, e.g. "Who wrote 'Faust'" (I replied "Goeth", pronounced it just like that, not the German pronunciation.) Another question: "Where is Egypt?" (Africa, of course). I forget the rest.
The shrink was using the questions to gauge my general body of knowledge. Combined with other metrics, a general picture of a person's state of mind and persona develops. Certainly, someone who knows who wrote 'Faust' and where Egypt, and the other questions, is a very different person from someone who knows none of the answers. Plus, the fact that I pronounced "Goethe" the way it is would be pronounced if it were an American name, is telling, as it showed that I obtained that knowledge by reading, rather than through a lecture or a TV show. It also showed I was not German, and had not studied the language to any real degree.
What sort of experiences do the rest of slashdotters have along these lines?
It's simple. See, there's this management culture; it's ubiquitous. Bunch of back-slapping, golf club playing, BMW driving, Hamptons vacationing, Montessori school tuition paying, 'right-sizing', ice cube chewing,golf shirt wearing gekkos, most of 'em. They would fire their mother if it was expected of them. They do NOT do what is right, but only what is expected of them.
Being highly proficient in doublespeak, they can deep-down know what they are doing would land them in hell, were there a hell, and still do it, in order to keep their corner office. They will do what is MORALLY and ETHICALLY wrong, if their boss wants them to. They have no soul, but perfect teeth and hair.
Their bosses want to maximize profit. They don't give a damn how. If they have to pound their employees in the ass by forcing them to buy required tools themselves, and can get away with it, they will.
In short, they are scum, in my experience. I mean these things in all sincerity and after much observation and meditation.
Technically yes, they had a choice, reasonably, no, there was little choice, and still not much.
The real blame lies with those who told the unwashed that the Internet was a fine place for Gramma and the kiddies. The Internet is still like a digital ghetto, where one had either be stree-wise or armed.
It's kind of like getting pissed off because someone gets burned by fire, or drowned by water. It is the NATURE of fire to burn when not handled properly, and the NATURE of water to drown on occasion. That is why one does not handle fire or jump into water unless one is prepared.
Likewise with the Internet. One cannot just jack in and have fun without running the very real risk of getting burned. One must be prepared, and know what one is dealing with.
Again, a measure of blame lies with those who positioned the Internet as an amusement park rather than the serious business that it is, but ultimatly the blame lies in those who surf the web without being prepared. And if they can't prepare themselves, or are unwilling to pay to become prepared, then stay the hell off the Internet.
There was one other thing I meant to put in my original reply, but did not.
Check this guy out. Study him, and those like him. You will find a similar trait, which I have observed most often in liars. Chronic liars think that everyone else lies like they do. That is key to understanding them. Likewise, this guy. He blithly goes on about how he reads other people's mail, as if it was a 'well, duh' situation, and as if ANYONE would do the same thing.
This shithead is like the liars I've observed. He thinks that HIS 'natural tendency' to invade another's privacy is the way EVERYONE thinks. Well, his mode of thought is certainly common, but it is NOT the way everyone thinks. He thinks otherwise, which is one of the reasons guys like this are so pathetic. I've been a sysadmin. The thought HAS crossed my mind; hey, I could read anyone's email. But I CONCIOUSLY decided not to. This is what makes HUMANS different from ANIMALS. Animals do what comes natural to them, like the shithead parent. Human beings, true human beings (in the Dune sense here) actually have control of themselves and can aspire towards nobility instead of wallowing in animalistic voyeurism.
Thank you for listening. I needed to get that off my chest. I'm just sick and tired of dickheads like the parent being the standard by which humanity is judged.
Not encrypted, but certainly encoded. It's not like you can look at a wire or a platter and read the mail on it. You need to launch programs which understand the encoding (even something as simple as ASCII) to take the 1's and 0's and make something out of it.
It's pretty close to encryption, when you look at it that way. True, decoding ASCII does not require knowledge of any secrets, but neither does reading somebody's snail mail, or opening up somebody's diary.
Why? I'm just fscking currious. I stopped after everyone started getting only spam and virii though.
What an anal opening.
It has been my observation that those who are most interested in others lives generally have none of their own.
Those who have power will use it.
No, not all will, as you imply. Only those without any sense of decency, which is perhaps most sysadmins, but not all. Any admin who aspires to being a good man would not invade other's privacy because they're 'just fscking currious'.
Shirley you are not referring to MOI with that 'above it all' thing. I am most CERTAINLY NOT 'above it all,' in fact, I wallow quite happily like a pig in its own filth in this kind of hyperventilating, hysterical sensationalistic screeds masquerading as news. I find it delicious, and slightly piquant. The more they lie, the funnier they are. Rush, like I said, used to be the best, but now that he's backing that lizard Bush, my stomach just can't take it. I suppose once Michael stops being iconoclastic like Rush was and starts propping up Democrats again, he'll turn my stomach once again, but any man who tweaks the nose of mammon, by whatever means, has my cinema dollar any day.
Pass the popcorn, in other words: Michael's got another one worth seeing. Fnord.
I'm loving this Michael Moore thing. All those blowhards who kiss Rush's ass are now seeing what it's like on the other side of the fence.
Rush is an ENTERTAINER. So is Moore. They don't pretend to be objective. They have an agenda, and admit it.
That's what makes them fun to listen to (well, Rush WAS fun to listed to him when he was Clinton bashing, but now that he's gone into propping up Bush, it's kind of nauseating.).
In sum, folks need to chill, and to not be so quick to get their panties in a twist over the rantings and ravings of ENTERTAINERS. These cats are not by any means 'wise men', just hucksters and performers. Enjoy it (Rush AND Moore) for what it is: highly amusing for someone without a pole lodged firmly up their ass.
Yeah, that billionths of a cent loss of precision is sure to result it little old ladies being thrown out on the street because their rent checks bounced.
I really don't understand why people are so hard for Gmail. It's like, "Woo Hoo! A gig of Storage! I'll save eight bucks of hard disc space, and get ads and an invasive presence to boot" Thanks, Google, but no thanks. I can set up my on frickin' email, not have it read by your bots or whatever, and fsck the ads.
OK, maybe I can understand how people like my Mom would want Gmail, but for me, and presumably anyone who can spell ISP, I just don't get it.
When you amass this fortune, be sure to forget that if it wasn't for this great country that you live in that is run by this broken government that has worked so well for over 200 years you would probably be nothing more then a substance farmer bathing and pissing in the same river that the cow shits and drinks in.
It WAS a great country, but the country reached its apex and began its decline began about 80 years ago. We are now living off the results, fruits and momentum planted prior to that. Anyone with intelligence and an above average grasp of history would agree.
A country is like any other entity. It has it's rise, glory, and decline, and we are witnessing the decline of the American civilization. That is beyond dispute. The country has quite a few years before the shit REALLY hits the fan, but for now, we can enjoy pretending our country is the best thing that's ever happened, and will alway be the best thing that's ever happend, that things can only get better, and can continue to wave our flag; slapping ourselves on the back for having made the excellent choice of having been born here.
I don't know if it's legal, but it's certainly unethical.
I'm not so sure. Hotmail is simple refusing to carry GMail traffic. It is kind of like how the Post Office does not deal in UPS or Fed Ex traffic... you cannot send a UPS or Fed Ex package to a Post Office Box. If you want your Fed Ex package to get where it needs to go, you cannot use USPS Post Office Boxes. Is what the Post Office does 'unethical'? Now, it would be a fine public service if the Post Office would recieve UPS packages, but I don't think that's 'unethical'.
Boy, I bet the Japanese really shat their britches when they heard that! It was probably their greatest fear, second only to Andorra declairing war on them.
That's what they get for not implementing Linux on their hardware. Everyone knows Linux is teh bomb, and that it is immune to virii due to the fact that Linus smiled upon it. When will they learn? Corporate, pointy-headed drones, they are, incapable of seeing the truth even when it smacks them in their pasty managerial conformist greed-centric open-source hating faces.
My boss used that word in a meeting just the other day. After she paused, I asked her, "Did you say 'rightsource?". And she said, yes, that means outsourcing, when it is the right thing to do.
I can't stand it. I feel like I'm living in a fucking Dilbert cartoon. It drives me up a wall, how people try to change words to make things 'feel better'. That is one of the many reasons I'll never be in corporate management, because I don't deal in bullshit, and could never say 'rightsource' with a straight face.
Mod me down, please. I have too much karma, and I just needed to ventilate. I just found that funny, and disgusting, at the same time.
Ya, I LOVE reading Slashdot without a GUI. Surfing the web using Lynx is SO much better than that godawful impediment to Web pleasure and productivity called Mozilla.
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A good model for EVM would actually be the Navada Gaming commission for slot machines and the like
Oh, come on now, let's get real. The Gaming commision is dealing with things of importance: MONEY! Surely you can't expect entities to treat votes with the same importance as money? That's just silly, as evidenced by the cavalier attitude our elected officials treat the vote.
"You can't cheat an honest man."
That fool was not an honest man. Like all suckers, he was looking for something for nothing.
Oh yeah, in case anyone is interested, "Goethe" is pronouced "Gerr ta"
While I'm at it, 'Nietzche' is pronounced 'Nee Chuh'. Rhymes with the New Jersey-ism "Double Feechuh" Drives me crazy when people say it "Nee Chee"
How can the way you pronounce the name of an author POSSIBLY indicate that you read the book rather than just hearing about it?
*sigh*
I never said "it showed that I obtained that knowledge by reading,".
BY READING. I didn't say BY READING THE BOOK.
It's like my Mom; she was in some kind of college course, and said "Frood". Not "Freud" but "Frood". Obviously, she had learned of what she was speaking by READING. Not necessarily by reading Freud, but reading OF Frood. Had she heard of Frood in a lecture, or on TV, she would have pronounced it properly.
I expect most people who've read a book can pronounce the author's name correctly
Would you have properly pronounced "Goethe" if you had never heard it? Once again, I never read Faust, but read ABOUT it.
I was at a book store, and the clerk was shelving with another clerk, and said "Le Gooin". I corrected her, "Le Guin". Totally understandable.
Thanks for listening. Now STFU.
Nothing is not worth knowing
Most of the time, that's true. But I know what the goatse guy's backside looks like, and THAT is knowledge I could do without.
Oh, only if it were possible to erase a mental image. That pic traumatized me for life.
Any one fact by itself is "useless trivia". But assorted "useless trivia" questions are just a way of gathering a random sampling of the entire body of knowledge that someone has.
I remember when I was having my head shrinked. The psychiatrist gave me a battery of tests. He asked me about 10 'useless trivia' questions, e.g. "Who wrote 'Faust'" (I replied "Goeth", pronounced it just like that, not the German pronunciation.) Another question: "Where is Egypt?" (Africa, of course). I forget the rest.
The shrink was using the questions to gauge my general body of knowledge. Combined with other metrics, a general picture of a person's state of mind and persona develops. Certainly, someone who knows who wrote 'Faust' and where Egypt, and the other questions, is a very different person from someone who knows none of the answers. Plus, the fact that I pronounced "Goethe" the way it is would be pronounced if it were an American name, is telling, as it showed that I obtained that knowledge by reading, rather than through a lecture or a TV show. It also showed I was not German, and had not studied the language to any real degree.
What sort of experiences do the rest of slashdotters have along these lines?
It's simple. See, there's this management culture; it's ubiquitous. Bunch of back-slapping, golf club playing, BMW driving, Hamptons vacationing, Montessori school tuition paying, 'right-sizing', ice cube chewing,golf shirt wearing gekkos, most of 'em. They would fire their mother if it was expected of them. They do NOT do what is right, but only what is expected of them.
Being highly proficient in doublespeak, they can deep-down know what they are doing would land them in hell, were there a hell, and still do it, in order to keep their corner office. They will do what is MORALLY and ETHICALLY wrong, if their boss wants them to. They have no soul, but perfect teeth and hair.
Their bosses want to maximize profit. They don't give a damn how. If they have to pound their employees in the ass by forcing them to buy required tools themselves, and can get away with it, they will.
In short, they are scum, in my experience. I mean these things in all sincerity and after much observation and meditation.
...but if they touch you they go to jail and the store gets sued
Jeezus, what a nation of pansies we've become. 'Boo fricken hoo, the bad man touched me!'
Some Best Buy loser 'touches' me, he'll end up touching my fist with his face, repeatedly and with vigour.
That's GREAT! And I know just the tune I'm going to broadcast into those ghetto blasters: The Asshole Song, by Dennis Leary.
Technically yes, they had a choice, reasonably, no, there was little choice, and still not much.
The real blame lies with those who told the unwashed that the Internet was a fine place for Gramma and the kiddies. The Internet is still like a digital ghetto, where one had either be stree-wise or armed.
It's kind of like getting pissed off because someone gets burned by fire, or drowned by water. It is the NATURE of fire to burn when not handled properly, and the NATURE of water to drown on occasion. That is why one does not handle fire or jump into water unless one is prepared.
Likewise with the Internet. One cannot just jack in and have fun without running the very real risk of getting burned. One must be prepared, and know what one is dealing with.
Again, a measure of blame lies with those who positioned the Internet as an amusement park rather than the serious business that it is, but ultimatly the blame lies in those who surf the web without being prepared. And if they can't prepare themselves, or are unwilling to pay to become prepared, then stay the hell off the Internet.
There was one other thing I meant to put in my original reply, but did not.
Check this guy out. Study him, and those like him. You will find a similar trait, which I have observed most often in liars. Chronic liars think that everyone else lies like they do. That is key to understanding them. Likewise, this guy. He blithly goes on about how he reads other people's mail, as if it was a 'well, duh' situation, and as if ANYONE would do the same thing.
This shithead is like the liars I've observed. He thinks that HIS 'natural tendency' to invade another's privacy is the way EVERYONE thinks. Well, his mode of thought is certainly common, but it is NOT the way everyone thinks. He thinks otherwise, which is one of the reasons guys like this are so pathetic. I've been a sysadmin. The thought HAS crossed my mind; hey, I could read anyone's email. But I CONCIOUSLY decided not to. This is what makes HUMANS different from ANIMALS. Animals do what comes natural to them, like the shithead parent. Human beings, true human beings (in the Dune sense here) actually have control of themselves and can aspire towards nobility instead of wallowing in animalistic voyeurism.
Thank you for listening. I needed to get that off my chest. I'm just sick and tired of dickheads like the parent being the standard by which humanity is judged.
Email is plain text. clear text. not encrypted
Not encrypted, but certainly encoded. It's not like you can look at a wire or a platter and read the mail on it. You need to launch programs which understand the encoding (even something as simple as ASCII) to take the 1's and 0's and make something out of it.
It's pretty close to encryption, when you look at it that way. True, decoding ASCII does not require knowledge of any secrets, but neither does reading somebody's snail mail, or opening up somebody's diary.
Why? I'm just fscking currious. I stopped after everyone started getting only spam and virii though.
What an anal opening.
It has been my observation that those who are most interested in others lives generally have none of their own.
Those who have power will use it.
No, not all will, as you imply. Only those without any sense of decency, which is perhaps most sysadmins, but not all. Any admin who aspires to being a good man would not invade other's privacy because they're 'just fscking currious'.
"look at me I'm above it all they both lie"
Shirley you are not referring to MOI with that 'above it all' thing. I am most CERTAINLY NOT 'above it all,' in fact, I wallow quite happily like a pig in its own filth in this kind of hyperventilating, hysterical sensationalistic screeds masquerading as news. I find it delicious, and slightly piquant. The more they lie, the funnier they are. Rush, like I said, used to be the best, but now that he's backing that lizard Bush, my stomach just can't take it. I suppose once Michael stops being iconoclastic like Rush was and starts propping up Democrats again, he'll turn my stomach once again, but any man who tweaks the nose of mammon, by whatever means, has my cinema dollar any day.
Pass the popcorn, in other words: Michael's got another one worth seeing. Fnord.
Um, Rush clearly states he does commentary. Moore screams that he does documentaries.
I really don't care WHAT they call themselves; I can decide that for myself. Moore lies, so does Rush. Doesn't make them any less amusing to me.
I'm loving this Michael Moore thing. All those blowhards who kiss Rush's ass are now seeing what it's like on the other side of the fence.
Rush is an ENTERTAINER. So is Moore. They don't pretend to be objective. They have an agenda, and admit it.
That's what makes them fun to listen to (well, Rush WAS fun to listed to him when he was Clinton bashing, but now that he's gone into propping up Bush, it's kind of nauseating.).
In sum, folks need to chill, and to not be so quick to get their panties in a twist over the rantings and ravings of ENTERTAINERS. These cats are not by any means 'wise men', just hucksters and performers. Enjoy it (Rush AND Moore) for what it is: highly amusing for someone without a pole lodged firmly up their ass.
Yeah, that billionths of a cent loss of precision is sure to result it little old ladies being thrown out on the street because their rent checks bounced.
I really don't understand why people are so hard for Gmail. It's like, "Woo Hoo! A gig of Storage! I'll save eight bucks of hard disc space, and get ads and an invasive presence to boot" Thanks, Google, but no thanks. I can set up my on frickin' email, not have it read by your bots or whatever, and fsck the ads.
OK, maybe I can understand how people like my Mom would want Gmail, but for me, and presumably anyone who can spell ISP, I just don't get it.
When you amass this fortune, be sure to forget that if it wasn't for this great country that you live in that is run by this broken government that has worked so well for over 200 years you would probably be nothing more then a substance farmer bathing and pissing in the same river that the cow shits and drinks in.
It WAS a great country, but the country reached its apex and began its decline began about 80 years ago. We are now living off the results, fruits and momentum planted prior to that. Anyone with intelligence and an above average grasp of history would agree.
A country is like any other entity. It has it's rise, glory, and decline, and we are witnessing the decline of the American civilization. That is beyond dispute. The country has quite a few years before the shit REALLY hits the fan, but for now, we can enjoy pretending our country is the best thing that's ever happened, and will alway be the best thing that's ever happend, that things can only get better, and can continue to wave our flag; slapping ourselves on the back for having made the excellent choice of having been born here.
I don't know if it's legal, but it's certainly unethical.
I'm not so sure. Hotmail is simple refusing to carry GMail traffic. It is kind of like how the Post Office does not deal in UPS or Fed Ex traffic... you cannot send a UPS or Fed Ex package to a Post Office Box. If you want your Fed Ex package to get where it needs to go, you cannot use USPS Post Office Boxes. Is what the Post Office does 'unethical'? Now, it would be a fine public service if the Post Office would recieve UPS packages, but I don't think that's 'unethical'.
Canada declared war on Japan on December 7, 1941.
Boy, I bet the Japanese really shat their britches when they heard that! It was probably their greatest fear, second only to Andorra declairing war on them.
That's what they get for not implementing Linux on their hardware. Everyone knows Linux is teh bomb, and that it is immune to virii due to the fact that Linus smiled upon it. When will they learn? Corporate, pointy-headed drones, they are, incapable of seeing the truth even when it smacks them in their pasty managerial conformist greed-centric open-source hating faces.
My boss used that word in a meeting just the other day. After she paused, I asked her, "Did you say 'rightsource?". And she said, yes, that means outsourcing, when it is the right thing to do.
I can't stand it. I feel like I'm living in a fucking Dilbert cartoon. It drives me up a wall, how people try to change words to make things 'feel better'. That is one of the many reasons I'll never be in corporate management, because I don't deal in bullshit, and could never say 'rightsource' with a straight face.
Mod me down, please. I have too much karma, and I just needed to ventilate. I just found that funny, and disgusting, at the same time.
Ya, I LOVE reading Slashdot without a GUI. Surfing the web using Lynx is SO much better than that godawful impediment to Web pleasure and productivity called Mozilla.
Come on it is called /. for a reason, since when did this site become c:\
Actually, I thought the name came from URS:
"Aich Tee Tee Pee Colon Slash Slash Slashdot Dot Org".
Kind of comical, I think, was the reason, not anything UNIXy or so I was told.