Document fidelity, aka backwards compatibility, should be the primary concern over new features.
Apache will be releasing AOO sometimes in the near future, the dev ver 3.4 preserves doc fidelity on my all archives, which is 9 years worth of use, LO 3.4.x does not, 3.5RC3 + is patched to allow viewing my archive, not as pretty as AOO or LO ver 3..3.x.
BTW Apache now holds the code to OO, not Oracle.....time to change the anti rhetoric, back to first comment.
There was new feature added that completely changed how 'Table>borders>styles' is configured. A patch was made to fix backwards compatibility, sort of, but new border styles are not useful.
Not a fan of dev's run wild. I do not see the value in the metrics of the number of new code changes to software that works. New code new bugs, ad infinitum.
I switched to Apache OO 3.4-dev, it works fine, I don't feel I am missing any new' features...sometimes when something works...leave it alone.
Maybe they 'modded troll' because it sounded like one, Slashdot has a hard time with the mod feature, like modding your post interesting. Hopefully people are not still talking about how fast an app starts, folks I know just leave them running while they work. I do have OO 2.3.1 running on an older laptop, no hard drive, runs Puppy Linux in memory and saves/runs OO from a USB 1 stick, now that does start slow, but runs just fine.
Ballmer does understand the big words 'intellectual property'. Thsy has no meaning, hence no liability on MS part, and better yet no need to show an actual case of patent or copyright infringement.
First its Linux, if they don't know what that is then your screwed anyway. Second if Linux is acceptable then try 'Ubuntu', versions really don't mean that much except to the admin.
"but what kind of infrastructure does it take to monitor 12.5 million people? Even with cameras and RFID chips, I can't imagine how many people it would take to operate a system like that.
Now fast forward to America, if something like this did happen, and we had to implement a new cabinet position for the Head of the Department of Homeland Surveillance, how many people and what kind of infrastructure would it take to monitor 200+ million Americans?"
The US government probably can't pull thus off, but.. google might be able to do it right now.. no wait, collecting all data on all things is not 'evil".
If the FAA wants to gain control of there systems go with a Linux infrastructure, locally. Google offers net apps, but Google is really no different than MS when it comes to your IT infrastructure, keep it loacla, keep it Free. The fact that Google uses Linux on its servers is not an endorsement of Linux or FOSS, it just makes $$$.
Who gives a s$$t about game support or MS Office support. I can run OpenOffice on Linux just fine, the better solution is to run WP. Until that happens it is a waste of time to use Wine.
Paranoia, fun exercise wh=hen bored with reality:-) Living in Alaska you have to go through Canada to get from one part of the state to another. The closer to the border the more people socialize, regardless of nationalities. So I am in the market for a US passport. I have looked online at firstgov.org. The info provided on the E-passport is the passort has to be opened to expose the chip to any scanner. On the other hand all my dogs have chips installed for ID, in case they are lost, never even put on my tin foil hat for that decision. There is a possible? $500 fee by the IRS if you feel like not giving you SSN. It is an illusion if you think you have any privacy, not neccessarily a good thing, just the way, at least, the US government operates.
Life IS to short to spend on installing Gentoo. God bless the user base, it is a fine community. but give me binaries in a simple installer/updater, ah yes Debian.I am not trying to learn anything about the details of Linux, just, get some work done, email my family & friends. Thank goodness these days you can put a cd in , bootup, answer a couple of questions and you have a fully functional system.
If being commercial is the arbiter of quality, Novell & Red Hat (Enterprise)are as commercial as any. They do have community versions , but you don't have to use those, pay for the Enterprise editions and you are automagically using 'commercial, aka, better software.
" Assemble a 100% Debian common core that addresses the needs of enterprise business users"
They are backporting xorg from Etch, so it is 'not' 100% compatable. You won't be able use a Debian sources.list/mirror and get 100% of your packages, so whose mirror do you use.
Ian Murdock says this isn't a fork, I say its a salad fork, smaller one goes on the ?
I concur, consolidation is already happened though, in the enterprise. Redhat & Suse have the support infrastructure (24/7 online self help doesn't count), sales & marketing, that is required and acceptable to most. Debian, has a big user base but outside of the Linux users, most folks can't figure out the vast self help system.
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Free as I libre, it beer
It ran on wine..not ported ...
greg
+1, another satisfied user..like the lack of noise..
greg
As long as some distro still packages it, I don't like/need change in my workstation either.
WindowMaker is similar, used it for years, seemed to go unsupported for a while, lo & behold, it is active now.
Document fidelity, aka backwards compatibility, should be the primary concern over new features.
Apache will be releasing AOO sometimes in the near future, the dev ver 3.4 preserves doc fidelity on my all archives, which is 9 years worth of use, LO 3.4.x does not, 3.5RC3 + is patched to allow viewing my archive, not as pretty as AOO or LO ver 3..3.x.
BTW Apache now holds the code to OO, not Oracle.....time to change the anti rhetoric, back to first comment.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38542 & 42750
There was new feature added that completely changed how 'Table>borders>styles' is configured. A patch was made to fix backwards compatibility, sort of, but new border styles are not useful.
Not a fan of dev's run wild. I do not see the value in the metrics of the number of new code changes to software that works. New code new bugs, ad infinitum.
I switched to Apache OO 3.4-dev, it works fine, I don't feel I am missing any new' features...sometimes when something works...leave it alone.
A more significant historical link to the past, Corel Linux ,1999,was called Slink & a half. 9slink & Potato.'
Also Mint now has a release based on, 100% compatible with, Debian testing.
Just a bunch of noise though, love the new release, don't care what anyone else uses.
Maybe they 'modded troll' because it sounded like one, Slashdot has a hard time with the mod feature, like modding your post interesting. Hopefully people are not still talking about how fast an app starts, folks I know just leave them running while they work. I do have OO 2.3.1 running on an older laptop, no hard drive, runs Puppy Linux in memory and saves/runs OO from a USB 1 stick, now that does start slow, but runs just fine.
Ballmer does understand the big words 'intellectual property'. Thsy has no meaning, hence no liability on MS part, and better yet no need to show an actual case of patent or copyright infringement.
First its Linux, if they don't know what that is then your screwed anyway. Second if Linux is acceptable then try 'Ubuntu', versions really don't mean that much except to the admin.
"but what kind of infrastructure does it take to monitor 12.5 million people? Even with cameras and RFID chips, I can't imagine how many people it would take to operate a system like that.
Now fast forward to America, if something like this did happen, and we had to implement a new cabinet position for the Head of the Department of Homeland Surveillance, how many people and what kind of infrastructure would it take to monitor 200+ million Americans?"
The US government probably can't pull thus off, but.. google might be able to do it right now.. no wait, collecting all data on all things is not 'evil".
If the FAA wants to gain control of there systems go with a Linux infrastructure, locally. Google offers net apps, but Google is really no different than MS when it comes to your IT infrastructure, keep it loacla, keep it Free. The fact that Google uses Linux on its servers is not an endorsement of Linux or FOSS, it just makes $$$.
Would go to anyone actually treading the article.
Who gives a s$$t about game support or MS Office support. I can run OpenOffice on Linux just fine, the better solution is to run WP. Until that happens it is a waste of time to use Wine.
love greg
Paranoia, fun exercise wh=hen bored with reality :-) Living in Alaska you have to go through Canada to get from one part of the state to another. The closer to the border the more people socialize, regardless of nationalities. So I am in the market for a US passport. I have looked online at firstgov.org. The info provided on the E-passport is the passort has to be opened to expose the chip to any scanner. On the other hand all my dogs have chips installed for ID, in case they are lost, never even put on my tin foil hat for that decision. There is a possible? $500 fee by the IRS if you feel like not giving you SSN. It is an illusion if you think you have any privacy, not neccessarily a good thing, just the way, at least, the US government operates.
I install linux for free on any box that has been compromised by the Windows s**t. Other wise I just syy I don't do Windows, and they have a choice.
Life IS to short to spend on installing Gentoo. God bless the user base, it is a fine community. but give me binaries in a simple installer/updater, ah yes Debian .I am not trying to learn anything about the details of Linux, just, get some work done, email my family & friends. Thank goodness these days you can put a cd in , bootup, answer a couple of questions and you have a fully functional system.
In the file 'save as' dialog, Gnumeric 1.6.2 calls it openoffice-oasis-unfinished as the file format.
The comparative disro to RHEL is Centos, not Fedora. If you don't like the price of RHEl run Centos. Same Free code and legal.
If being commercial is the arbiter of quality, Novell & Red Hat (Enterprise)are as commercial as any. They do have community versions , but you don't have to use those, pay for the Enterprise editions and you are automagically using 'commercial, aka, better software.
greg
Unless the license is GPL. MS is just blowing smoke,or is that inhaling ?
" Assemble a 100% Debian common core that addresses the needs of enterprise business users"
They are backporting xorg from Etch, so it is 'not' 100% compatable. You won't be able use a Debian sources.list/mirror and get 100% of your packages, so whose mirror do you use.
Ian Murdock says this isn't a fork, I say its a salad fork, smaller one goes on the ?
greg
I concur, consolidation is already happened though, in the enterprise. Redhat & Suse have the support infrastructure (24/7 online self help doesn't count), sales & marketing, that is required and acceptable to most. Debian, has a big user base but outside of the Linux users, most folks can't figure out the vast self help system.
greg
Nice ..but, high price kills the deal. Apple was, still is, the low price leader for PPC.
No, that would be something like what OASIS proposes, i.e. open document file format,w g_abbrev=office
... application dialog, and focus on the data.
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?
This would eliminate the 'what/who's/free/proprietary