Except for a work to be considered protected by copyright laws, the creation of the work must have involved some kind of creative process. "Works" that can be mass generated, such as public key pairs, could never be copyright protected.
I'm sorry if t his is a "MOD PARENT UP!!1" post, but it's very true. Anyone should read "Godel, Escher, Bach". Hofstadter is extremely clever at conveying a natural understanding for things. It's one of the few non-fiction books I've not been able to put away:)
"Kroupware" was only a working title for the project. The completed product is called Kolab. I don't know why Slashdot went with Kroupware in the title (I think someone mentioned "kroup" is similary to the Dutch word for throwing up).
Ah, but you can set your node to not store any data, just forward. When you get data from a neighbour node, you have no idea if that node has stored the data at all, and you have no way of finding out.
As for Freenet's stated goal being circumvention of laws, I don't remember having read that anywhere -- except circumvention of certain laws in certain totalitarian states. US officials, being such lovers of freedom, should have no problem with that goal.
We're not talking about "taking down" anything, we're talking about routing data. A Freenet node will route data on Freenet, just as any tcp/ip router will route data on the internet. They are quite analogous.
As I understand it, there are several reasons for making nodes default to being permanent. For once, transient nodes don't help the network at all; they just leech. But more importantly, if you're transient, you lose an important attribute of Freenet: your plausible deniability. Everything in your data store has provably landed there on your request, and not (as for permanent nodes) perhaps because they were only routed through you.
So let's just wait and see if all these new non-permanent permanent nodes will hurt the network or help it.:-)
Freenet is NOT immune to the/. effect currently. Every time/. runs a Freenet related story, loads of new users seem to get on the Freenet and it just collapses, meaning response times go way up and many freesites become unreachable. I'm sure NGRouting will take care of this, but it's not honest to say it will help Freenet "remain immune" to the/. effect, because it's not immune.
I share some of your view about my own statements; they could be taken quite to the extreme. What you have to understand, and accept, though, is that if a system like Freenet were to have some kind of built-in mechanism for removing extremely objectionable material, it would (as several others have commented now) need to have mechanisms to remove any material (and who would make the removal decisions?). And you can't have that and still have a system implementing the ideals of Freenet (total anonymity for both publisher and consumer).
And no, freedom of expression does not include the freedom to break into my private sphere and make noises during RotK. OTOH, that won't happen by running a Freenet node;-)
Yes, Freenet is not for everybody. If you don't believe in total, indiscriminatory, complete freedom of speech and expression (an information anarchy, as it were), Freenet is not for you. On the other hand, if you believe there can be such a thing as "freedom of speech, but only when I agree," you probably have some thinking to do.
Ian says it himself in at SSK@2q6I1H0RQPNHjemAQkdcEqQPmsUPAgM/alternator/1//:
I think it is beneficial to maintain an air of superiority over the Kazaa's of the world, this is not to say that we shouldn't strive to make the website useful, but I don't think we should be making it garish or trying to compete directly with mp3 sharing tools - it *is* about freedom of communication, after-all not trading copyrighted material.
Whoever uses Java for applets anymore? Mainly some sites with online games, that's who. Let's get out of this "Java == Applets" mindset, please. Java is excellent on the server side, it's pretty good for client side, and it's quite excellent in academia.
Not to mention Sweden is a paradise for low-cost, high-speed connections. If you're lucky, you can get 22Mbit/sec VDSL for USD50 a month. With all that bandwidth going around, and p2p applications actually outlawed, one has to keep an eye on Sweden in the time ahead;) The country with the most criminal population on earth!
Most people don't care about most things (except shiny objects). Seriously, people don't give a flying poop even about things that are directly related to their life situation. Which is why it takes so little to be labelled an extremist of sorts. I wouldn't use the "what most people care about" as a meter for "what matters".
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I found the capture image at SCO.de quite amusing:
"Relax -- Worry Free Software"
So far, it seems they manage to worry Free Software quite successfully.
As far as I can tell the genius of BitTorrent is allowing peers who themselves do not yet have a complete file to share the parts they do.
No, the "genious" of BitTorrent isn't that this is allowed, but that it's enforced. By design, you get nothing (or at least very little) if you give nothing. This very fact explains why BitTorrent downloads are often so blazingly fast - there are no leechers.
The latest FishTools (download from SSK@kWu5Osv~VAI3-kH7z8QIVxklv-YPAgM/fishtools/37// ) supposedly includes FreeTorrent, supposedly doing exactly what you describe (I haven't tried it out myself yet:).
KDE still has serious issues with stability, perfomance, and usability, and we should be focusing on adding features and doing large scale UI improvements.
Hellooo, anybody home? Have you never seen a troll before, moderators?:)
You have to admit the main advantage of GNOME is the ability to write closed-source software for it. This aspect of the LGPL is exactly why Stallman is recommending not to use it. Given all this, I can't help but think Stallman wishes he could rethink the choice of GNOME as the GNU desktop.
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To avoid adopting the unholy habits of VI, I always play nethack with the number_pad option. Much more friendlier than hjkl.
Except for a work to be considered protected by copyright laws, the creation of the work must have involved some kind of creative process. "Works" that can be mass generated, such as public key pairs, could never be copyright protected.
I'm sorry if t his is a "MOD PARENT UP!!1" post, but it's very true. Anyone should read "Godel, Escher, Bach". Hofstadter is extremely clever at conveying a natural understanding for things. It's one of the few non-fiction books I've not been able to put away :)
"Kroupware" was only a working title for the project. The completed product is called Kolab. I don't know why Slashdot went with Kroupware in the title (I think someone mentioned "kroup" is similary to the Dutch word for throwing up).
Nobody will ever know (not even the lucky chap).
Ah, but you can set your node to not store any data, just forward. When you get data from a neighbour node, you have no idea if that node has stored the data at all, and you have no way of finding out.
As for Freenet's stated goal being circumvention of laws, I don't remember having read that anywhere -- except circumvention of certain laws in certain totalitarian states. US officials, being such lovers of freedom, should have no problem with that goal.
Well, I can see two points:
1. The DMCA is not legislate outside the US. Most people live outside the US.
2. You can apply the same reasoning that lead to the said legal safe hourbor for ISPs to those running Freenet nodes.
We're not talking about "taking down" anything, we're talking about routing data. A Freenet node will route data on Freenet, just as any tcp/ip router will route data on the internet. They are quite analogous.
If that's true, any ISP or network administrator should immediately think twice about running that Cisco router. Who knows what stuff it's routing!
As I understand it, there are several reasons for making nodes default to being permanent. For once, transient nodes don't help the network at all; they just leech. But more importantly, if you're transient, you lose an important attribute of Freenet: your plausible deniability. Everything in your data store has provably landed there on your request, and not (as for permanent nodes) perhaps because they were only routed through you.
:-)
So let's just wait and see if all these new non-permanent permanent nodes will hurt the network or help it.
Freenet is NOT immune to the /. effect currently. Every time /. runs a Freenet related story, loads of new users seem to get on the Freenet and it just collapses, meaning response times go way up and many freesites become unreachable. I'm sure NGRouting will take care of this, but it's not honest to say it will help Freenet "remain immune" to the /. effect, because it's not immune.
I share some of your view about my own statements; they could be taken quite to the extreme. What you have to understand, and accept, though, is that if a system like Freenet were to have some kind of built-in mechanism for removing extremely objectionable material, it would (as several others have commented now) need to have mechanisms to remove any material (and who would make the removal decisions?). And you can't have that and still have a system implementing the ideals of Freenet (total anonymity for both publisher and consumer).
;-)
And no, freedom of expression does not include the freedom to break into my private sphere and make noises during RotK. OTOH, that won't happen by running a Freenet node
Yes, Freenet is not for everybody. If you don't believe in total, indiscriminatory, complete freedom of speech and expression (an information anarchy, as it were), Freenet is not for you. On the other hand, if you believe there can be such a thing as "freedom of speech, but only when I agree," you probably have some thinking to do.
Ian says it himself in at SSK@2q6I1H0RQPNHjemAQkdcEqQPmsUPAgM/alternator/1// :
I think it is beneficial to maintain an air of superiority over the
Kazaa's of the world, this is not to say that we shouldn't strive to
make the website useful, but I don't think we should be making it
garish or trying to compete directly with mp3 sharing tools - it *is*
about freedom of communication, after-all not trading copyrighted
material.
Whoever uses Java for applets anymore? Mainly some sites with online games, that's who. Let's get out of this "Java == Applets" mindset, please. Java is excellent on the server side, it's pretty good for client side, and it's quite excellent in academia.
Not to mention Sweden is a paradise for low-cost, high-speed connections. If you're lucky, you can get 22Mbit/sec VDSL for USD50 a month. With all that bandwidth going around, and p2p applications actually outlawed, one has to keep an eye on Sweden in the time ahead ;) The country with the most criminal population on earth!
And also, you need to replace BitchX with irssi.
Most people don't care about most things (except shiny objects). Seriously, people don't give a flying poop even about things that are directly related to their life situation. Which is why it takes so little to be labelled an extremist of sorts. I wouldn't use the "what most people care about" as a meter for "what matters".
I found the capture image at SCO.de quite amusing:
"Relax -- Worry Free Software"
So far, it seems they manage to worry Free Software quite successfully.
As far as I can tell the genius of BitTorrent is allowing peers who themselves do not yet have a complete file to share the parts they do.
No, the "genious" of BitTorrent isn't that this is allowed, but that it's enforced. By design, you get nothing (or at least very little) if you give nothing. This very fact explains why BitTorrent downloads are often so blazingly fast - there are no leechers.
The latest FishTools (download from SSK@kWu5Osv~VAI3-kH7z8QIVxklv-YPAgM/fishtools/37// ) supposedly includes FreeTorrent, supposedly doing exactly what you describe (I haven't tried it out myself yet :).
KDE still has serious issues with stability, perfomance, and usability, and we should be focusing on adding features and doing large scale UI improvements.
:)
Hellooo, anybody home? Have you never seen a troll before, moderators?
You have to admit the main advantage of GNOME is the ability to write closed-source software for it. This aspect of the LGPL is exactly why Stallman is recommending not to use it. Given all this, I can't help but think Stallman wishes he could rethink the choice of GNOME as the GNU desktop.
Your ISP could log everything you insert.
Not really, since it's impossible to tell insertion from routing in Freenet.
Yes, the torrent is here.