I don't know the particulars of the grandparent posters situation, but as someone who used to do Contracts Admin and Product Marketing-Techincal for a computer manufacturer that specialized in the (US) gov and edu sectors, I can attest to the type of timeline the grandparent mentions.
The (everyday, ho-hum, beaurocratic(sp?)) version of the US gov is slow to adapt and change. View the specs for any recent computer bid. You will still see requirements for ISA slots on user desktops.
Basically, what you post states that computers are getting better via one person, but a few/many/some people that are getting better vs the computers. Therefore, no necessary contradiction.
Nowhere referenced is Kasparov vs the other guys.
We could take it as a given that Kasparov is better than all the other guys, but I reject that arguement. On the flip side, I also reject an arguement that says the other guys are better than than Kasparov because they are doing progressively doing better against the computers.
There are a couple of posts above re: pitting a computer against a more "technical player" than Kasparov. I think this could be interesting.
In short, no. The statements are not contradictory. Kasparov is not plural.
(BTW... in deference to the people that bitched about people being sexist, I mean "guys" to reference men AND dames. We cool on that?)
Okay. Let me amend my above post by asking the "guaranteed-to-get-me-modded-as-flamebait" question...
From a technological standpoint, why should the average person choose one or the other? ("Average" in this case, meaning someone debating with themself between linux/bsd/or even MS for next server.)
I mean to ask this strictly from a strictly technology standpoint. I have heard the arguements re: bsd vs gpl, and it is an important issue as far as present and future development is concerned. But, I'm looking for a technology based-answer of which the license is a part, but not the focus, of the answer.
I realize people could argue about this all day, and they "probably" have in the past.. This is why I asked for links to previously published arguements/stats/etc.
I still haven't noticed it yet in this thread... Technologically, why is linux better/worse than bsd? Or, vice versa if you prefer.
Is better hardware support the main thing linux has going for it?
1) Cute ChanOP that I met. (I actually met her, and she WAS cute.) 2) Being nuked by some other guy that decided he loved her. 3) War scripts (defense only, of course)
As a former Contracts Administrator for a computer manufacturer that specialized in the government and educational sectors, I can state from experience that Open Bidding in the (US) government is a joke.
Often, the specs will be written in such a way that only one company can fill them. The specs are written by the reps for the company and then given to the IT guys at the Bureau of Whatever. ("Hey Joe. This will fit your needs perfectly. Just insist on these specs in your RFP.")
Multiple Award Schedule contracts like GSA contracts are just as big a joke. If you sell commodity products, like washers, nails, or computers, then there are 500 other companies that have a GSA contract to sell the exact same thing. Who do the buyers buy from? In the computer hardware scene- The usual suspects: Dell, IBM, HP (Or, its bought from the company that has the rep that actually wrote the RFP. Depends on particular product)
Low cost doesn't matter. They go with what they see in the Gvt Buyer trade rags. Government buyers LIVE by the axiom "Never ever got fired for buying..."
Another point:
These people that are in charge of buying 5000 desktop computers for the Dept of Whatever are also the same people that are in charge of buying 500000 rolls of TP every 6 months.
I guarantee they are more concerned about their own ass, than they are about the computer that the peon on the frontline is using.
---- Okay. Personal plug time.
Now that I've said my piece, and probably killed any chance for a career in my preferred field... let me back up and say that Contracts Admin was a GREAT job. I liked doing it. And, I would like to do it again. I can fix your problems, whether you are business-to-government or government-to-business.
Crimson Editor is a great, free editor when sitting at a windows box.
I don't mean to shill for the guy, but I'm going to anyway cause I really like this program. And, No. I don't work for him or know him or anything.
From his homepage...
Crimson Editor is a professional source editor for Windows.
This program is not only fast in loading time, but also small in size (so small that it can be copied in one floppy disk).
While it can serve as a good replacement for Notepad, it also offers many powerful features for programming languages such as HTML, C/C++, Perl and Java.
Syntax Highlighting for HTML, C/C++, Perl, Java, Matlab and LaTeX. Also, it can be extended for other programming languages based on custom syntax files.
Other features include undo/redo, user tools, macros, spell checker and more.
a large code base that's difficult to duplicate, only then should you worry about protecting your IP
Considering the amount of spaghetti code that is out there, I would guess that MOST code bases are difficult to duplicate (even by the original coder(s))
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Actually.. It was pretty good. Good enough to have me nodding my head for a sec.
I don't know the particulars of the grandparent posters situation, but as someone who used to do Contracts Admin and Product Marketing-Techincal for a computer manufacturer that specialized in the (US) gov and edu sectors, I can attest to the type of timeline the grandparent mentions.
The (everyday, ho-hum, beaurocratic(sp?)) version of the US gov is slow to adapt and change. View the specs for any recent computer bid. You will still see requirements for ISA slots on user desktops.
Your first quote references Kasparov vs Computer
Your second quote references "strongest humans"
Basically, what you post states that computers are getting better via one person, but a few/many/some people that are getting better vs the computers. Therefore, no necessary contradiction.
Nowhere referenced is Kasparov vs the other guys.
We could take it as a given that Kasparov is better than all the other guys, but I reject that arguement. On the flip side, I also reject an arguement that says the other guys are better than than Kasparov because they are doing progressively doing better against the computers.
There are a couple of posts above re: pitting a computer against a more "technical player" than Kasparov. I think this could be interesting.
In short, no. The statements are not contradictory. Kasparov is not plural.
(BTW... in deference to the people that bitched about people being sexist, I mean "guys" to reference men AND dames. We cool on that?)
I dunno if Arnold Shwaren-whatever plays chess, but as a resident of California, I REALLY DO have a Terminator overlord.
(BTW.. Fuck him and George Bush too.)
Either as main chars, or as first and second kills? Either way, I think it would be fun.
+1 Insightful
If I had mod points, I would give one to the parent.
for a reason
Okay. Let me amend my above post by asking the "guaranteed-to-get-me-modded-as-flamebait" question...
From a technological standpoint, why should the average person choose one or the other? ("Average" in this case, meaning someone debating with themself between linux/bsd/or even MS for next server.)
I mean to ask this strictly from a strictly technology standpoint. I have heard the arguements re: bsd vs gpl, and it is an important issue as far as present and future development is concerned. But, I'm looking for a technology based-answer of which the license is a part, but not the focus, of the answer.
I realize people could argue about this all day, and they "probably" have in the past.. This is why I asked for links to previously published arguements/stats/etc.
I still haven't noticed it yet in this thread... Technologically, why is linux better/worse than bsd? Or, vice versa if you prefer.
Is better hardware support the main thing linux has going for it?
Remember, this was quite a few years ago...
It was more like 150 lbs with an incredibly painful-to-look at complexion
Nowdays....
Okay.. I'm probably begging for Flamebait with this, but I'll ask anyway...
Please provide links to PREVIOUSLY PUBLISHED articles, newsbriefs, etc (web-based or otherwise) that show:
a) BSD is technologically inferior (speculations regarding present or future development allowed) to Linux
or
a) Linux is technologically inferior (speculations regarding present or future development allowed) to BSD
--
I do not ask for the purposes of trolling, or flaming, or somesuch...
I'm not interested in GPL vs BSD except as it effects the above mentioned future development.
(And, Yes. I did read the parent post re: developers leaving, etc.)
I'm just curious about the technology aspect. (I've read enough comments and random opinion. I'd like some backup for the statement at this point.)
Thanks.
IRC was my first intro to being online...
1) Cute ChanOP that I met. (I actually met her, and she WAS cute.)
2) Being nuked by some other guy that decided he loved her.
3) War scripts (defense only, of course)
Damn, those days were fun.
But, the internet is dying, right?
No. That would be BSD.
Fingers not required.
I used to know a guy that used a stick in his mouth to type.
Comedian Steven Wright has a good "world weary" voice for Marvin
oh great.. So now we would get hard copy versions of spam (in addition to the regular junk mail already receiving) along with the digital copies?
this isn't off-topic. Redundant, probably. + .5 funny, maybe. But not off-topic.
Just my opinion.
Notice the part about about Instant Mashed Potatoes.
:)
Tasty, and Fiber-Filled
Never crashed on me.
But, if it doesn't work for you, then go for another option. (As you rightly did.)
That IS what it's all about, isn't it? Options.
I can "kinda" see the thinking here, but my first thought is:
"Thats Good Junk! DIBS!!!!"
As a former Contracts Administrator for a computer manufacturer that specialized in the government and educational sectors, I can state from experience that Open Bidding in the (US) government is a joke.
..."
Often, the specs will be written in such a way that only one company can fill them. The specs are written by the reps for the company and then given to the IT guys at the Bureau of Whatever. ("Hey Joe. This will fit your needs perfectly. Just insist on these specs in your RFP.")
Multiple Award Schedule contracts like GSA contracts are just as big a joke. If you sell commodity products, like washers, nails, or computers, then there are 500 other companies that have a GSA contract to sell the exact same thing. Who do the buyers buy from? In the computer hardware scene- The usual suspects: Dell, IBM, HP (Or, its bought from the company that has the rep that actually wrote the RFP. Depends on particular product)
Low cost doesn't matter. They go with what they see in the Gvt Buyer trade rags. Government buyers LIVE by the axiom "Never ever got fired for buying
Another point:
These people that are in charge of buying 5000 desktop computers for the Dept of Whatever are also the same people that are in charge of buying 500000 rolls of TP every 6 months.
I guarantee they are more concerned about their own ass, than they are about the computer that the peon on the frontline is using.
----
Okay. Personal plug time.
Now that I've said my piece, and probably killed any chance for a career in my preferred field... let me back up and say that Contracts Admin was a GREAT job. I liked doing it. And, I would like to do it again. I can fix your problems, whether you are business-to-government or government-to-business.
Hire me.
(Go to my journal and say something. I'll see it)
Crimson Editor is a great, free editor when sitting at a windows box.
I don't mean to shill for the guy, but I'm going to anyway cause I really like this program. And, No. I don't work for him or know him or anything.
From his homepage...
Crimson Editor is a professional source editor for Windows.
This program is not only fast in loading time, but also small in size (so small that it can be copied in one floppy disk).
While it can serve as a good replacement for Notepad, it also offers many powerful features for programming languages such as HTML, C/C++, Perl and Java.
Syntax Highlighting for HTML, C/C++, Perl, Java, Matlab and LaTeX. Also, it can be extended for other programming languages based on custom syntax files.
Other features include undo/redo, user tools, macros, spell checker and more.
I remember getting into an arguement with my dad when I was 15 or 16 or so.
I yelled, "I can't wait until I graduate from high school so I can move out of this place."
Dad asks, "What are you going to do for a job, for food, for a place to live?"
I replied, "I'll find a job somewhere! And, I'll live in a box if I have to! And I'll eat Top Ramen everyday if I have to!"
Dad's reply? "Son, you can't work up a solid shit if you eat nothing but Ramen. Stick around and go to college."
Do I have to mention what food I lived on during college? And after I got laid off?
(BTW... Cream of Mushroom Soup + Spaghetti Noodles is good, and so is Instant Mashed Potato Flakes mixed into Pasta Roni)
Why is this flamebait?
Seems like a straightforward review to me.
a large code base that's difficult to duplicate, only then should you worry about protecting your IP
Considering the amount of spaghetti code that is out there, I would guess that MOST code bases are difficult to duplicate (even by the original coder(s))
Linux desperately NEEDS more people looking at it from a marketing perspective
Marketing for Geeks aka How to Get the Non-Geeks to pay attention to you.
1. You are a geek. Most of the world isn't.
2. You can multiply binary in your head. Most of the world can't.
3. You like to understand the things you use. Most of the world just wants to use things.
4. You don't listen to the marketing-droids. Most of the world does (subconsciously).
5. You like to code. Most of the world doesn't.
Remember these five things, and soon enough you can...
6. Profit