I started using red hat with 2.0.2. I currently use fedora 9. As far as I could tell the switch from red hat 9 to fc 1 was a name change only. I have not seen anything out of line with the way the distribution has worked all along. There may have been differences, but as far as I can tell they were marketing and name of the distribution. Not function and the normal evolution of the product. As far as stability I had as many (most likely more) issues with red hat releases as I have with new fedora releases.
How exactly were you burned by a name change of a free product?
The big problem with email and any recorded communication really is that is can be used to craft almost any story you want to tell. Your enemies will always want access to all of your communications. This way they can edit them and release to the public in a way to paint a picture of you using your own words.
Many people have been slandered this way for many years. So much that you would think that the general public could tell the difference between propaganda and reality. The problem remains that people believe what they want to hear and discount anything they don't want to hear. Give them an irrelevant email out of context and they will eat it up.
I would recommended against any public figure using email.
but neither WordPerfect or Word came with a PC, the user had to decide which one to buy. MS Word was $50 (competitive upgrade, with no validity checking) and WP was ~$300. Everyone I know opted for Word just because of the price. Some law firm clients of mine hung on to WP for quite a while, at least until '97. The main reason they switched to Word was document compatibility problems with their clients (all using Word).
MS will not be toppled any time soon. very long term they will, because all companies die at some point.
The vast majority of end users don't know the difference between XP and Vista or that Vista was some kind of failure. They bought their computer and whatever it has is what they use. Only geeks know/think that Vista was a failure. It was only a PR failure. If it was a real failure new PCs would not be shipping with it.
Currently and for the foreseeable future almost every PC ships with an MS OS. That is the key, people do not decide which OS to run, the vendors do.
The only way that Linux is going to take off is if a vendor produces some must have pc/appliance/etc that runs Linux. I thought the netbook might be it, but now I know several people that have them and they all got the XP version.
Lotus sued and won over keystroke commands. Quattro and SCO Pro could both emulate Lotus 123 keystrokes and had to be taken off the market. At the time many people were moving from Lotus 123 to Quattro Pro, I thought it would be the next big thing. SCO Professional was great because it was a Lotus 123 clone that ran on Unix and worked great on dumb terminals (or telnet).
Evil does not equal dumb. If Google wants to destroy Firefox, cutting off all funding in an instant is not the way to do it. They should enter as a nice guy until they reach a feature level and market share level where they can pull out the rug. Then they will pick up defecting FF users. If they piss off alternate browser users at this early stage they have no chance.
I have not tried it since then. The system is long gone, but I may I sill have the installed hard drive stashed somewhere. I doubt I could find an ST506 controller to run it. I moved about 2 years ago and threw away a bunch of old hardware going back 20 years, even an old televideo CP/M system.
In about '95 or so I ordered a red hat CD and have mostly stuck with RH/Fedora/RHEL/CentOS. I have tried other distros over the years but never run them for any significant time/project.
First Linux I tried was Slackware. I downloaded a slew of 1.44 diskette images, 14 or 15 I think over a 14.4 modem connection on a 386sx25 with 4 meg of ram running win 3.1. My ISP had a usage limit except from midnight to 8 am. It took we over a week to download because I would start a disk downloading at midnight and maybe stay up to start the second disk and go to bed. Once it was all downloaded I used rawwrite to write all the images to disk, put in an extra 20 meg hard drive to avoid trashing my system. I installed with no problem and was able to connect to the net and access email and Usenet, I was impressed.
Computers are not reality and people to not relate to them that way. New users will relate a computer to a book where you have a table of contents and an index more that they will relate to some VR interface that tries to look like a real store.
A huge benefit of shopping one line is the ability to search and find exactly what you want. Store owners hate this, they want you to browse through tons of crap and impulsively buy stuff you see.
If you also read the complaint, it is alleged that she was instructed the correct way to send the message and refused to do so. The compliant makes it sound like she was in a pissing contest with the network administrator. Not a good person to piss off if you want to send email.
"the student was informed of the proper procedures to follow and flatly refused to obtain proper permissions stating that she would continue to send emails out and demanded that I file charges against her."
sounds like she wanted some publicity to go with her spam.
I think its a good idea to bring it up. You can bet any company that gets a contract to provide these services will try to sneak it in. Make it an issue before they start rolling it out.
I don't think Google is a "push" provider. Google does not use any bandwidth. It is the individuals consuming Google's services that are using the bandwidth and they are paying for it.
"I've pretty much used Logitech mice exclusively since I've stared using a computer."
You spoiled young whipper snapper. we didn't have mice when I started using a computer. We had to use the H J K and L keys, and we liked it!
I wonder how many keyboards they have shipped, it seems like they would have produced more keyboards than mice, since mice are optional, or they used to be.
I am mostly libertarian but I would say the depression brought about some good legislation.
formation of the SEC, regulating stock offerings (33 act) and the secondary market (34 act) and investment companies (40 act) basically just codified best business practices. Before that is was a free for all. Companies could say anything and get away with anything.
Stuff you take for granted now had to be codified in laws years ago so you can take it for granted now.
Reading the article, which has almost no details, I think the LA Times is trying to make news out of nothing. The "senior military leaders" are basically like "senior business executives" who probably have no clue about any actual "attacks". They are just trying to hype up anything they can to increase their budgets.
The actual details they are dealing with is the same as any organization that uses computers and employs people.
Use Ubuntu if you are lazy and like free beer Use Fedora if you like free beer and Free software Use FreeBSD if you like free beer and dont like GPL Use OSX if you like to flash $100 bills when you pay for your beer
You will make the most difference by helping some kid(s) by tutoring them. There are lots of organizations around that will connect you with the students that need help. Search one out in your area. You are not going to make a big difference by giving them hardware.
If makes me wonder where the original came from. It is obviously not the original unless it was taken with a cell phone. If the AP wants people to take them seriously they need to pick better battles. Dissing a promo shot and making it "news" is pretty lame.
Cloud computing is fine for the typical Joe 6 pack user. The fact is most people are not competent enough to maintain their own internet connected computer and keep it secure.
Having your documents stored on a computer that is not secure is just as bad or worse that letting Google or MS store your documents. Power users and businesses can and will handle their own document storage.
My guess is it will be mostly Silverlight with some light ajax to make it functional where SL is not available. MS will have a major hook in it one way or another.
If you RTFA this is more of a rumor than fact, someone in a blog post says it will support os other than windows. They say Silverlight is not required but will make it run better. I suspect they will treat non-IE clients as "downlevel" browsers. It will probably be very slick in IE and very dull in other browsers. It will keep IE users from switching to FF because "office sucks in FF".
You young whipper snappers talk of the sound of failing drives. I remember and can never forget the smell of failing drives. When you get the call that the system wont boot up and you walk into the computer room to the very distinct smell of a head crash on a 14" platter. You ask the operator "where are the backup disks?" and she says "I tried them all and none of them will work". Oh crap she just trashed the backups.
"Frankly, what I would like to see is "OpenOffice.org-server" that will host those apps on a network server... preferably one under user/admin control and doesn't require live internet."
Linux distro of your choice w/OO. Xming on your windows clients. works great on my local network, not sure how it would do over the public internet.
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I started using red hat with 2.0.2. I currently use fedora 9. As far as I could tell the switch from red hat 9 to fc 1 was a name change only. I have not seen anything out of line with the way the distribution has worked all along. There may have been differences, but as far as I can tell they were marketing and name of the distribution. Not function and the normal evolution of the product. As far as stability I had as many (most likely more) issues with red hat releases as I have with new fedora releases.
How exactly were you burned by a name change of a free product?
The big problem with email and any recorded communication really is that is can be used to craft almost any story you want to tell. Your enemies will always want access to all of your communications. This way they can edit them and release to the public in a way to paint a picture of you using your own words.
Many people have been slandered this way for many years. So much that you would think that the general public could tell the difference between propaganda and reality. The problem remains that people believe what they want to hear and discount anything they don't want to hear. Give them an irrelevant email out of context and they will eat it up.
I would recommended against any public figure using email.
but neither WordPerfect or Word came with a PC, the user had to decide which one to buy. MS Word was $50 (competitive upgrade, with no validity checking) and WP was ~$300. Everyone I know opted for Word just because of the price. Some law firm clients of mine hung on to WP for quite a while, at least until '97. The main reason they switched to Word was document compatibility problems with their clients (all using Word).
MS will not be toppled any time soon. very long term they will, because all companies die at some point.
The vast majority of end users don't know the difference between XP and Vista or that Vista was some kind of failure. They bought their computer and whatever it has is what they use. Only geeks know/think that Vista was a failure. It was only a PR failure. If it was a real failure new PCs would not be shipping with it.
Currently and for the foreseeable future almost every PC ships with an MS OS. That is the key, people do not decide which OS to run, the vendors do.
The only way that Linux is going to take off is if a vendor produces some must have pc/appliance/etc that runs Linux. I thought the netbook might be it, but now I know several people that have them and they all got the XP version.
This reminds me of the Lotus vs Quattro Pro and SCO professional lawsuit http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CEFD7113EF930A35754C0A966958260.
Lotus sued and won over keystroke commands. Quattro and SCO Pro could both emulate Lotus 123 keystrokes and had to be taken off the market. At the time many people were moving from Lotus 123 to Quattro Pro, I thought it would be the next big thing. SCO Professional was great because it was a Lotus 123 clone that ran on Unix and worked great on dumb terminals (or telnet).
Evil does not equal dumb. If Google wants to destroy Firefox, cutting off all funding in an instant is not the way to do it. They should enter as a nice guy until they reach a feature level and market share level where they can pull out the rug. Then they will pick up defecting FF users. If they piss off alternate browser users at this early stage they have no chance.
I have not tried it since then. The system is long gone, but I may I sill have the installed hard drive stashed somewhere. I doubt I could find an ST506 controller to run it. I moved about 2 years ago and threw away a bunch of old hardware going back 20 years, even an old televideo CP/M system.
In about '95 or so I ordered a red hat CD and have mostly stuck with RH/Fedora/RHEL/CentOS. I have tried other distros over the years but never run them for any significant time/project.
I may give slack another try for old time sake.
First Linux I tried was Slackware. I downloaded a slew of 1.44 diskette images, 14 or 15 I think over a 14.4 modem connection on a 386sx25 with 4 meg of ram running win 3.1. My ISP had a usage limit except from midnight to 8 am. It took we over a week to download because I would start a disk downloading at midnight and maybe stay up to start the second disk and go to bed. Once it was all downloaded I used rawwrite to write all the images to disk, put in an extra 20 meg hard drive to avoid trashing my system. I installed with no problem and was able to connect to the net and access email and Usenet, I was impressed.
That was the last time I installed Slackware.
Computers are not reality and people to not relate to them that way. New users will relate a computer to a book where you have a table of contents and an index more that they will relate to some VR interface that tries to look like a real store.
A huge benefit of shopping one line is the ability to search and find exactly what you want. Store owners hate this, they want you to browse through tons of crap and impulsively buy stuff you see.
If you also read the complaint, it is alleged that she was instructed the correct way to send the message and refused to do so. The compliant makes it sound like she was in a pissing contest with the network administrator. Not a good person to piss off if you want to send email.
"the student was informed of the proper procedures to follow and flatly refused to obtain proper permissions stating that she would continue to send emails out and demanded that I file charges against her."
sounds like she wanted some publicity to go with her spam.
I think its a good idea to bring it up. You can bet any company that gets a contract to provide these services will try to sneak it in. Make it an issue before they start rolling it out.
I don't think Google is a "push" provider. Google does not use any bandwidth. It is the individuals consuming Google's services that are using the bandwidth and they are paying for it.
"I've pretty much used Logitech mice exclusively since I've stared using a computer."
You spoiled young whipper snapper. we didn't have mice when I started using a computer. We had to use the H J K and L keys, and we liked it!
I wonder how many keyboards they have shipped, it seems like they would have produced more keyboards than mice, since mice are optional, or they used to be.
I am mostly libertarian but I would say the depression brought about some good legislation.
formation of the SEC, regulating stock offerings (33 act) and the secondary market (34 act) and investment companies (40 act) basically just codified best business practices. Before that is was a free for all. Companies could say anything and get away with anything.
Stuff you take for granted now had to be codified in laws years ago so you can take it for granted now.
Reading the article, which has almost no details, I think the LA Times is trying to make news out of nothing. The "senior military leaders" are basically like "senior business executives" who probably have no clue about any actual "attacks". They are just trying to hype up anything they can to increase their budgets.
The actual details they are dealing with is the same as any organization that uses computers and employs people.
You obviously never worked on a POS system. The acronym was very suitable for the ones I worked on.
Use Ubuntu if you are lazy and like free beer
Use Fedora if you like free beer and Free software
Use FreeBSD if you like free beer and dont like GPL
Use OSX if you like to flash $100 bills when you pay for your beer
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You will make the most difference by helping some kid(s) by tutoring them. There are lots of organizations around that will connect you with the students that need help. Search one out in your area. You are not going to make a big difference by giving them hardware.
If makes me wonder where the original came from. It is obviously not the original unless it was taken with a cell phone. If the AP wants people to take them seriously they need to pick better battles. Dissing a promo shot and making it "news" is pretty lame.
Cloud computing is fine for the typical Joe 6 pack user. The fact is most people are not competent enough to maintain their own internet connected computer and keep it secure.
Having your documents stored on a computer that is not secure is just as bad or worse that letting Google or MS store your documents. Power users and businesses can and will handle their own document storage.
My guess is it will be mostly Silverlight with some light ajax to make it functional where SL is not available. MS will have a major hook in it one way or another.
If you RTFA this is more of a rumor than fact, someone in a blog post says it will support os other than windows. They say Silverlight is not required but will make it run better. I suspect they will treat non-IE clients as "downlevel" browsers. It will probably be very slick in IE and very dull in other browsers. It will keep IE users from switching to FF because "office sucks in FF".
You young whipper snappers talk of the sound of failing drives. I remember and can never forget the smell of failing drives. When you get the call that the system wont boot up and you walk into the computer room to the very distinct smell of a head crash on a 14" platter. You ask the operator "where are the backup disks?" and she says "I tried them all and none of them will work". Oh crap she just trashed the backups.
"Frankly, what I would like to see is "OpenOffice.org-server" that will host those apps on a network server... preferably one under user/admin control and doesn't require live internet."
Linux distro of your choice w/OO. Xming on your windows clients. works great on my local network, not sure how it would do over the public internet.