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The Sounds of Failing Hard Drives

zzptichka sends along a link to recordings of typical sounds from 35 different failing and dying hard drives. The host of these sounds, Datacent, is in the business of data recovery, so presumably they have heard it all.

205 comments

  1. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pah, I've been hearing those sounds for ages and my computer's carrying on regardl

    1. Re:Anonymous Coward by Ihmhi · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My second ever computer's HD died. When it did, all I saw was my Windows desktop just sitting there - unmoving, like a digital corpse. I restarted and heard "click click click" and thought "why does my computer sound like a metronome?"

      Incidentally, "The Sound of Failing Hard Drives" sounds like an awesome song title for a geek death metal band.

    2. Re:Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I've been hearing those sounds from my wife for ages. Should I be worried?

    3. Re:Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just keep her full of lube and you'll be fine.

    4. Re:Anonymous Coward by Gilmoure · · Score: 2, Funny

      Might be time to upgrade to wife 2.0. Newer versions may require some customizing and setup but as a geek, that can be kinda fun. Until she blue screens on your for upgrading her incorrectly.

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    5. Re:Anonymous Coward by khellendros1984 · · Score: 1

      I got my first computer right when the internet was taking off and the old-skool destructive-type computer viruses were going out of style....a couple 6.4GB drives (mine, of course) were some of the last casualties of a virus that magnetizes the RW heads to cause a head crash and scrape up the platters in the drives. I am quite familiar with "click click click" as well.
      Then there was the time that the same thing was the result of a failed IDE controller....

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    6. Re:Anonymous Coward by rrohbeck · · Score: 0, Troll

      Nonsense. I've been an engineer in the field for many years and there is no way of damaging a drive by software short of loading wrong firmware into it - which requires a file from the manufacturer with the correct checksums in place. The only other options would be by doing excessive seeks (due to bad drive design leading to wearout) or excessive start/stops (but if you listen to 10,000 of them and don't do anything about it it's your own fault.)

    7. Re:Anonymous Coward by david.given · · Score: 1

      Well, it's not heavy metal, but this is a piece of music made entirely from the sounds of dying hard drives...

    8. Re:Anonymous Coward by numbware · · Score: 1

      Just be sure NOT to delete your previous install of Wife 1.0

      Hans Reiser tried that, and we all know the story.

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    9. Re:Anonymous Coward by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I think it's better to open source her at that point.

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  2. Ring tone one is awesome by QuantumG · · Score: 3, Funny

    Man, how creepy would that be?

    I bet it got reported as a "virus".

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    1. Re:Ring tone one is awesome by confused+one · · Score: 1

      That's an awsome idea! Thanks.

    2. Re:Ring tone one is awesome by theaveng · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      In my case it wasn't a failing hard drive, but a failing power supply that erased my c: drive. The loss of power during a write cycle somehow corrupted the data such that my computer could no longer boot-up. I had to do a complete re-format using the WinXP restore CD.

      I didn't lose anything but some porn videos, but it was still annoying, so now I back 'em up on an external USB drive. ;-)

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    3. Re:Ring tone one is awesome by nmg196 · · Score: 2, Funny

      What do you mean by the "ring tone one"?

    4. Re:Ring tone one is awesome by QuantumG · · Score: 3, Informative

      Uhh.. actually you should have booted up off the CD, selected "recovery console" and then run chkdsk /f c:

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    5. Re:Ring tone one is awesome by QuantumG · · Score: 1

      "Maxtor desktop drive with stuck spindle playing futuristic cell phone melody."

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    6. Re:Ring tone one is awesome by theaveng · · Score: 1

      I did. I tried every option I could to NOT reformat my drive, but after a day I realized I had no choice. I suspect the RAID information was lost during the power failure, and with the data being "divided" across two drives my PC couldn't make any sense of it. (shrug). I have since re-downloaded almost everything I lost, so it wasn't too bad of a tragedy. Now I make sure to back-up stuff on the external USB drive, just in case.

      TRIVIA:

      Voyagers 1 and 2 are still alive and in daily communication with NASA: http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/news/profiles_dsn .html - Amazing!

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    7. Re:Ring tone one is awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually he should have booted up off his CD
      selected "recovery console"
      typed fixmbr
      typed Y
      typed fixboot
      typed Y
      and then typed chkdsk c: /f

    8. Re:Ring tone one is awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And Voyager is still lost in the delta quadrant. Janeway was not available for comments.

    9. Re:Ring tone one is awesome by theaveng · · Score: 1

      And Voyager is still lost in the delta quadrant. Janeway was not available for comments.

      Technically the USS Voyager has not left yet, and won't be leaving until the year 2372.

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    10. Re:Ring tone one is awesome by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Were you using one of those onboard RAID setups? Working PC repair I have seen more of those things bone installs than I care to count. Do yourself a favor and if you want to run RAID get yourself a decent RAID card. Those built in RAID setups can be quite flaky. Or better yet,do as I tell my gamer clients and simply don't use RAID. The increased risk simply isn't worth it. I get them a Raptor for response time,along with a larger 7200.11 RPM drive for their music/vids/etc and they are quite happy with the performance.

      Finally don't keep anything you care about on the C: drive. Have a second drive that keeps your stuff or use a second partition if you only have one drive. Might I suggest a nice freeware tool called Junction Magic which will allow you to create symlinks,or junctions in Windows terms, to folders on any drives and still have it behave as if they were on the C: drive. I often do this with My Documents and it allows you to keep your stuff safe and simply nuke the C: drive if something goes bad. Thanks to the junction links when you reinstall Windows will read the junction links from the separate NTFS drive and restore the links at first boot. A much better solution than having to remap your folders after your annual Windows reinstall to clear out the bitrot.

      If you follow this advice along with a disk imaging of a clean install on your machine and monthly incrementals,you'll find that Windows failures only mean a 20-30 minute downtime,as opposed to the all day affair I get with those that simply dumped everything on the C: drive.

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    11. Re:Ring tone one is awesome by NouberNou · · Score: 1

      Having heard this one before first hand... It is creepy!

      I swore it had to be some diagnostic noise because it sounded too perfect to be mechnical, but everything I came upon told me that it was just the head of a dead drive...

      Needless to say I installed a RAID5 on that computer and use another fileserver for backup...

    12. Re:Ring tone one is awesome by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

      Another case of data being lost due to RAID. NEVER use RAID if you want to keep you data intact!!


      (Yes, I know that certain RAID types are for performance, not redundancy. It's a joke people...)

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    13. Re:Ring tone one is awesome by operagost · · Score: 1

      The BIOS RAID 1 implementations I've seen simply keep a synchronized copy of one disk on a second disk. They do not use a special format on the disk, so if your controller fails you can just take one of the disks to another PC and boot it up.

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    14. Re:Ring tone one is awesome by rrohbeck · · Score: 1

      Back in the late 80s or early 90s, rumor had it that engineers at DEC added firmware to drive the voice coil with PCM data via the interface. It was probably for testing purposes, but imagine what fun you could have with it. Actuators respond to well above 1kHz these days, so it should be good enough for voice.

      "Hi. This is your hard drive speaking. I found a bad sector at..."

      Seagate? Pleeeze?

    15. Re:Ring tone one is awesome by rrohbeck · · Score: 1

      "Maxtor desktop drive with stuck spindle playing futuristic cell phone melody."

      Yup. The spindle isn't turning so the firmware assumes a stuck head due to stiction and tries to knock it loose by vibrating the actuator.

    16. Re:Ring tone one is awesome by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Yes RAID 1 is usually not a problem,but if you'll read his post carefully it sounds like a RAID 0 setup. I have found the RAID 0 setup to be used most often in home situations,usually by DIY gamers. The RAID 0 implementations on most consumer(cheap) motherboards I have found to be quite flaky,and at the slightest bit of trouble tend to bone the entire file system. Believe me I know,as I had to tell a customer about 6 months ago that he lost nearly 1TB of data thanks to him ignoring my advice and going with the onboard RAID 0 to try to squeeze every frame out of his PC for WoW. Needless to say he listened to me after that and bought a raptor for his gaming and kept the 2 500Gb for data.

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  3. Worst Yanni album by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    EVER!

    1. Re:Worst Yanni album by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      You have never listened to a Yanni album before have you?

  4. Play several of the recordings simultaneously! by adnonsense · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's almost musical. In an avant-garde sort of way.

    1. Re:Play several of the recordings simultaneously! by dword · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's almost musical. In an avant-garde sort of way.

      +1 UserIsHigh

    2. Re:Play several of the recordings simultaneously! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    3. Re:Play several of the recordings simultaneously! by kevingolding2001 · · Score: 1

      The gizmodo Hitachi song competition has already been mentioned below, but the winning entry is just amazing.

  5. Ringtones by terremoto · · Score: 1

    The three or four I listened to all sounded pretty similar. Still, I can imagine that some readers here might like them as ringtones...

    1. Re:Ringtones by v1 · · Score: 1

      I replace HDs a lot at work and I've considered recording some of the sounds because a few of the forums I'm on we often help users with what could be a failing hard drive, and it's hard to describe to them all the various things they can listen for to identify a failing hard drive. This is particularly useful for laptops that have their hard drive entombed, making removal for testing impractical for the novice. Glad to see someone else has done this for me, as I don't have access to anywhere near the variety of failed drives as these guys do.

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  6. That Click! by denmarkw00t · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've heard it one too many times, which is >= 1 times. I pretty much give up at that point - once the click starts, your drive quickly begins to stop :(

  7. The Sounds of Failing Hard Drives by cheese-cube · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Sounds of Failing Hard Drives: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

    1. Re:The Sounds of Failing Hard Drives by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Funny

      The Sounds of Failing Hard Drives: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

      If a geek cries out in agony, but nobody is there to hear it, has he made a sound?

      Or, until someone opens the basement door, is he like Schrödinger's cat: both screaming and not screaming?

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    2. Re:The Sounds of Failing Hard Drives by bain_online · · Score: 2, Funny

      The Sounds of Failing Hard Drives: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

      No, that one will be of a Falling Hard Drive

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    3. Re:The Sounds of Failing Hard Drives by cheese-cube · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, that one will be of a Falling Hard Drive

      Only if there is someone falling with it.

    4. Re:The Sounds of Failing Hard Drives by mcfatboy93 · · Score: 2, Funny

      O the hills are alive with the sound of failing hard drives...

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    5. Re:The Sounds of Failing Hard Drives by BattleApple · · Score: 1

      Incidentally, that's the same sound a terabyte of porn makes when it disappears forever.

    6. Re:The Sounds of Failing Hard Drives by rrohbeck · · Score: 1

      No, this is what it sounds like:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YocnQ0NMTUA

    7. Re:The Sounds of Failing Hard Drives by Radio_active_cgb · · Score: 1

      The Sounds of Failing Hard Drives: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

      In space, no one can hear your hard drive fail....

  8. Bird sounds by tsa · · Score: 4, Funny

    A colleague of mine once demonstrated his bad hard drive as follows: "If I want to load that file, it starts singing." And indeed, the hard drive sang like a bird, but the file was never loaded.

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  9. Reading too fast ... by pereric · · Score: 1

    ... i read it as "the sound of *falling* hard drives".
    *bonk* *smash* ouch ...

    1. Re:Reading too fast ... by Knightman · · Score: 1

      Dyslectics'R'Us ...
      Did it too.. =)

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    2. Re:Reading too fast ... by Cormacus · · Score: 1

      no, no, I'm right there with you . . .

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  10. Sounds bad by Wowsers · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The sound clips were interesting. Thankfully I've never heard these sounds for real. As a precaution I get new drives every so often and do a swap-out "just in case" the older drives might want to fail, it's not as if the drives are that expensive compared to yesteryear. The older drives then get used in non-critical machines so as not to waste them.

    I will point out though that I have heard the one with sounds like head failure (clicking) on a pocket USB connect hard drive (first drive I got of this type). By my own investigation, I found out that when connected to the USB port, the drive started to spin up, then didn't have enough power to send the head all the way across, so it parked itself, then spun again etc. etc. After getting a spliced USB cable, I take power from two USB ports and the drive is working a perfect as any other hard drive.

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    1. Re:Sounds bad by something_wicked_thi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's not a good idea. Hard drives tend to die early or they last for a while, so by swapping the drives out like that, you're just making it more likely that you'll fall victim to hard drive infant mortality.

      If you want to avoid the problem, set up a RAID 1 mirror or similar.

    2. Re:Sounds bad by TheThiefMaster · · Score: 1

      I would guess that the usb port you were connecting it to couldn't supply the maximum 500mA from the usb standard and the drive required it. Was there a bus-powered usb hub involved? Some old motherboards or the front-panels of some cases use a bus-powered hub internally to give you multiple usb ports, so connecting directly to the pc might still mean connecting to a port that couldn't supply full power.

    3. Re:Sounds bad by confused+one · · Score: 1

      My experience is 3-4 years on a desktop machine, heavy usage. If they make it through the first month that is. One exception was when we bought a case of WD drives which apparently came from a bad batch. All of those suffered spindle bearing failures between 9 and 12 month (high pitch whine which grew louder until the drive would one day refuse to spin up).

    4. Re:Sounds bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I've two raptor in raid, and I'm worried: by default, they sound like a heavy machinegun in a WWI trench. I wonder what sound they would manage to produce when failing

    5. Re:Sounds bad by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      They'll jam and start venting compressed gas to cool down.

    6. Re:Sounds bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should be okay.

      What you should be worried about is having three raptors in a raid array. The most common problem in that situation is that a T-Rex will storm into the room, kill and eat them, and then make a very loud noise as a banner falls from the sky that reads: "When Hard Drives Ruled the Earth."

    7. Re:Sounds bad by snspdaarf · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think that's the same thing my Labrador does.

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    8. Re:Sounds bad by Reziac · · Score: 1

      World War III ??

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    9. Re:Sounds bad by Reziac · · Score: 1

      My experience too -- most W.D. and Seagate drives fail either almost immediately, or after at least 5-6 years in servicem but almost never anywhere inbetween.

      However, I've seen plenty of Maxtors that died after only a year or two in service, with absolutely NO warning. And since Seagate absorbed first Conner and then Maxtor, there've been some Seagates that did the one-or-two-year then instant-death thing.

      I buy only W.D. HDs, because of the longevity factor, and because I've *never* had one "just fail" -- they always give me months or even years of warning, one way or another. And the HD in my oldest everyday system has been running 24/7 for 11 years now!!

      BTW I asked W.D. about their HDs' designed-in lifespan, and they confirmed that it was 5 years.

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    10. Re:Sounds bad by ep32g79 · · Score: 1

      The sound of silence?

    11. Re:Sounds bad by toddestan · · Score: 1

      When I swap out a drive like that, I generally put the old drives up on a shelf and don't repurpose them right away. If infant mortality strikes, I'll put the old drive back in and be running again quickly. I also always do the full format - it takes a few hours but all the drives I've had that suffered from infant mortality problems failed before getting through the format.

    12. Re:Sounds bad by darkpixel2k · · Score: 1

      My experience too -- most W.D. and Seagate drives fail either almost immediately, or after at least 5-6 years in servicem but almost never anywhere inbetween.

      However, I've seen plenty of Maxtors that died after only a year or two in service, with absolutely NO warning.

      I love Western Digital. I've owned around 30 WD drives in my life. Only a few had to be RMA'd--always a problem at first power-on, or within a few minutes.

      I have one old linux box that's been running for a few years now--smartmon says the drive power-on hours just hit 6.5 years. Woo WD!

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    13. Re:Sounds bad by Reziac · · Score: 1

      I only buy W.D. myself :) Comes of noticing which random salvaged drives are most likely to still be alive! My antique (1991) 20mb HD is a W.D. too.

      My most elderly W.D. in everyday service has been running 24/7 for 11 years now :)

      I've RMA'd a few, but considering how many WDs I've bought and their average lifespan, the occasional RMA doesn't excite me all that much. And they never fail to give plenty of warning when they do get sick, which in my view is a huge bonus. I've nursed a couple of 'em along for 3 years after they came down with the creeping crud -- with no data loss.

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  11. The sound of being modded troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Involves a penguin being smashed through the Window while squashing apples and ripping up an encyclopedia then setting a fox on fire.

  12. but.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    do they make sound if there is no admin around to hear it?

    1. Re:but.. by crowbarsarefornerdyg · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, but it's usually accompanied, and drowned out by a screaming engineer.

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  13. Thanks by Elisanre · · Score: 4, Funny

    I had to come up with some competition for our boring christmas party and this solves it. -What is wrong with this harddrive and for bonus points who is the manufacturor? weewt!

    1. Re:Thanks by maxume · · Score: 2, Funny

      Your effort to stay within the 'boring' guideline is commendable.

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  14. April 1st prank/test material by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Setup one of these to play on a computer of your local BOFH and see if he/she is sharp enough to realize that the WD disk in his box cannot make the sound of a failing Maxtor...

  15. Mhmm.... baby by rea1l1 · · Score: 0

    That sound you make really turns me on.

  16. In all my years. by Sterrance · · Score: 2, Interesting

    From my Macintosh LC to my Macbook Pro (even my PCs) I've never had a single hard drive fail me. Am I just lucky or is the occurrence of hard drive failure rare?

    1. Re:In all my years. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Either you're lucky, or I'm the opposite outlier to balance things out. I've had disks from all manufacturers fail on me, after using them 24/7 for a while. It's tempting to blame the cooling, but they weren't especially warm - I guess it's just a side effect of using a desktop drive harder and more than intended.

      On the positive side, I haven't had any problems for a while now ...
      (And now that I've said that, I fully expect to come home and find at least one drive having caught fire.)

    2. Re:In all my years. by damburger · · Score: 1

      I've not had one catastrophically fail (such that it would make a noise I could hear) but I have had old ones constantly become corrupted.

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    3. Re:In all my years. by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      It's supposed to be pretty rare but I have three or four dead HDDs lying around here, two of which simply fail to react to the power cable being plugged in. There is no visible damage to the PCBs but I think that's where the prolam probably is.

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    4. Re:In all my years. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've had one drive fail, but that was because I busted off a surface mount capacitor putting the drive in a case. The most common problem I've had over the past two decades is corruption (due to bad motherboards or overclocking, rarely the drive itself).

      I always test the temperature of everything when I assemble a PC, and I also can't/don't drop my computers. (I've never owned a laptop)

      I'm pretty sure the main causes of HD failure are physical shock, using the drive when it's too hot or too cold, or (less often?) humidity.

    5. Re:In all my years. by boredhacker · · Score: 1

      I've never had a single hard drive fail me. Am I just lucky or is the occurrence of hard drive failure rare?

      No, you're not lucky... you simply don't use your computer much, or you upgrade equipment way too frequently.

      Nevertheless, the sounds aren't as frightening when you install your system onto a fault tolerant RAID array (which, if your data has any value at all, I strongly recommend).

    6. Re:In all my years. by confused+one · · Score: 1

      Until the controller (single point of failure) on your fault tolerant RAID array fails, either mirroring the errors or corrupting multiple disks simultaneously. Have seen that happen twice.

    7. Re:In all my years. by boredhacker · · Score: 1

      Until the controller (single point of failure) on your fault tolerant RAID array fails

      I wouldn't consider a non-duplexed RAID to be fault tolerant... but that's just me ;-)

    8. Re:In all my years. by confused+one · · Score: 1

      Good. Most people (mistakenly) do. I like redundancy.

    9. Re:In all my years. by reidconti · · Score: 1

      Counting the 4 drives currently attached to my Mac Pro, I've had easily 20 hard drives in my past and current home and work machines, and only had one, an IBM Travel(death)Star die in my iBook. Actually it still works but it would make the click of death once a month and hang my box, so finally I replaced it.

      Many of my systems had drives run for 5-7 years or more, long past the useful life for the disk size.

      However, in college, it seemed like everyone had at least ONE laptop drive. So don't trust them laptops :)

      Disk failures are relatively rare, but once you get enough spindles going, you'll start seeing 'em. At work it seems like we replace a drive once a week.

    10. Re:In all my years. by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      I too agree, but my home system is just that, a simple mirror on a single controller. It is more fault resistant, as I am unfettered by a single disk failure, and frankly that is good enough. Should the drives be corrupted then I would lose approx 1 week of data from the mirror as that is the backup cycle I'm on.

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    11. Re:In all my years. by Reziac · · Score: 1

      I've had very few true failures, and I usually have a good double handful in service. The everyday drives typically last about 6 years tho I've had some go 8+ years, and my oldest running 24/7 right now was 11 years old last spring. I've never had a W.D. drive just quit -- they always give lots of warning, and I wind up nursing them along for months or years before I finally get around to replacing them.

      The oldest IDE in my odd parts box is dated 1991, and it's still 100% perfect (for what little use a 20mb IDE HD is, other than as a curiosity!) as are the two 20mb MFM drives in my museum XT (both dated 1986).

      One of my test drives was given to me as "failed" -- it was stictioned. I gave it several increasingly annoyed whacks, it made increasingly loud RRRRR noises, then abruptly booted up and has worked fine ever since. It is now over 12 years old!

      In my experience, MOST "failed" HDs are actually software issues. The most common is the "FAT32 partition over 32GB *eats* files" bug, which looks for all the world like a HD failure, but in fact is purely software. (This is why there was a rash of "failed" HDs when the 40GB HDs came out -- as they were almost invariably partitioned as One Big FAT32 Disk.)

      Similarly, Seagate found that 60% of RMA'd drives actually had NOTHING physically wrong with them.

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    12. Re:In all my years. by julesh · · Score: 1

      Nevertheless, the sounds aren't as frightening when you install your system onto a fault tolerant RAID array

      Don't trust it to work. I've had a RAID0 array fail catastrophically. Turned out the disks I had acquired for it had a firmware bug which caused both to fail within hours of each other.

    13. Re:In all my years. by mashade · · Score: 1

      I've had a RAID0 array fail catastrophically.

      Well that's not exactly a surprise.

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  17. For not so failing drives by RyoShin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Radiohead's Nude, done with old hard drives and other hardware. Even if you're not a fan of Radiohead, I think it's worth a watch just to see the setup in action.

    (And don't worry, only the hard drives get "nude", so it's SFW.)

    1. Re:For not so failing drives by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      (And don't worry, only the hard drives get "nude", so it's SFW.)

      Unless your name is Bender Bending Rodriguez.

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    2. Re:For not so failing drives by shippo · · Score: 1

      Setup screen? That's just the standard Sinclair ZX Spectrum tape loading mechanism.

    3. Re:For not so failing drives by Greyor · · Score: 1
      Ah hell, you beat me to it. Such an apt reference, and I thought that video was excellent. I even ended up ripping the audio from the FLV and made an mp3 out of it.

      Also, re: this comment:

      Heck, I figured that just by reading the summary. Imagine my disappointment, then, when I got to the page and discovered the sounds were all encapsulated in mini Flash players instead of available to download, trim down, and load into the sampler of my choice. Nice variety of sounds, but totally inaccessible. I give it a D.

      ... with mplayer you can easily rip the audio from the flv once you download it (assuming you're in a Linux terminal; this should work with the CLI of mplayer on other platforms as well):
      mplayer -dumpaudio old-file.flv -dumpfile new-file.mp3
      (courtesy here via a quick Google search).

    4. Re:For not so failing drives by jweller · · Score: 1

      I used to know a guy who had a file he would print that would make his dot matrix printer play "Hail to the Redskins"

    5. Re:For not so failing drives by operagost · · Score: 1

      More like "Fail to the Redskins." Now, if he'd programmed it to do the Eagles' fight song, he could have renamed it "Fly, Print Head Fly!"

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  18. Next Slashdot story: by FRiC · · Score: 3, Funny

    The sound of slashdotted servers.

    1. Re:Next Slashdot story: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:Next Slashdot story: by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      Apparently Slashdotted too.

    3. Re:Next Slashdot story: by laejoh · · Score: 0

      Shouldn't that have been (Useful) Stupid things to do with a port 80

      ?

    4. Re:Next Slashdot story: by v1 · · Score: 1

      that page loads but all the drive sounds are /.'ed there. I wonder if they don't attempt to mirror media like those recordings?

      That or I wonder if they don't mirror on the fly... as in, they begin by mirroring the main page only, and then anytime someone requests a child page or media like those sounds effects, it downloads them from the actual page and then adds them to the mirror. That would explain why some of the HD sounds are not responding - they got there too late to mirror them before the original server went down.

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  19. DIY Data Recovery for Broken HDDs by wehe · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just in case you don't want or don't need to order data recovery from a professional service, which is often expensive and takes time, here are some do-it-yourself guides for data recovery from broken hard disk drives. Of course you will not try these approaches if your data are really precious. But it you can afford to loose the data or you don't want to reveal them to others, these guides are worth a try to get the data resurrected.

  20. The sound nightmares are made of. by Willeh · · Score: 4, Funny

    Every single one of those made me shiver like a leaf...imagine the lost porn on each of those drives and I think you'll shiver along with me.

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    1. Re:The sound nightmares are made of. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whatever happens when thinking of lost porn (or any porn for that matter) is not considered "shivering".

  21. Yep we hear them all too - fascinating PR win by Wiseleo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This story is an example of a fascinating marketing win for the PR company handling datacent's account. Drivesavers just did something similar kicking off their FUD campaign against other DR firms, like mine.

    Heck, I published some videos on youtube how to rip apart external enclosures.

    So, what the hell, since this story is a slashvertisement, I'll play along! If you hear such sounds, give me a call as well. I can actually tell you what can be done with your specific drive and don't charge an arm and a leg, just the arm.

    http://www.harddiskcrashed.com/?sl

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    1. Re:Yep we hear them all too - fascinating PR win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least their PR doesn't involve a techie sat on a godawful 70's velvet sofa.

  22. But is data recovery for real? by aliquis · · Score: 1

    I know all these companies which pretend to be able to rescue hard-drives. But do the ones which ask for a reasonable fee (like $1000) really do anything?

    My sisters hard-drive died after her laptop fell around 25 cm into the table, some guy which is the friend of her boyfriend had looked at it but he couldn't read it so I guessed there was probably not much I could do either.

    I know there is various applications around but in case the head has trashed into the plates I doubt that really helps much? And I guess the more one fiddle around with it the more the plate can get damaged?

    So, does a cheap private person affordable "lab" really do anything extra ordinary which you can't do with a working machine, whatever OS and some pirated recovery software or do they only talk bullshit and can't do shit at all except get your money from the "trouble shooting"?

    1. Re:But is data recovery for real? by Wiseleo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, it depends on your definition of reasonable. We charge about $1200 to replace heads on such a drive. Laptop drives are easier to work on than their big brothers, in my experience. If the firmware isn't corrupt, then basically all you need is a clean bench (aka clean room, laminar flow hood) and a working drive. Impact damage means new heads, new motor, then perhaps firmware recovery as well. But, yeah, fiddling with a crashed drive is not the smartest idea.

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    2. Re:But is data recovery for real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes....well, it depends on the person.

      Anybody can have X number of different applications to try to recover data, but it's not all too difficult to go that step farther. If the drive is just failing without reason, and you don't think it's the mechanical stuff, you can buy an identical hard drive and swap out the controllers.

      Now, of course, I've heard of people swapping heads on hard drives, but I'm not completely sure that can be done with a basic set of tools.

      and...oh yea, make sure you have an almost dust-free room, as dust can easy screw things up :D

    3. Re:But is data recovery for real? by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Don't you think the plates is damaged then? I think it's rather weird something happened for such a small drop to. My sister is very careful about her electronics, so careful she doesn't even have a computer bag or bring it with her even though it's turned of and all.

      I think she was lifting it and the power cable was plugged in so it pulled the laptop back so to speak, but still it was only a rather small drop onto the living room table. My MBP has fell down from the couch two times onto the floor and nothing has happened. Dunny if those acceleratorthingis helped save it.

      Do you think the drive would be rescuable if one turned it in? Problem is also it's only 30 GB of which like half was used so kind of the only "important" stuff is some digital photos but it's less than a year worth of photos and the new zealand pictures she has backup of, at least the one she though was best of them.

      So while she would probably want her things back I doubt she'd like to pay like $ 1000 for it. The firm in question had lower prices for private persons though, guess they see it as a kind of bonus service just to be kind and know private persons don't have that important data and don't want to pay that much.

    4. Re:But is data recovery for real? by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      There are free hd recovery tools that work really well. THat would be the best solution.

      Try: Auslogics Free Trial
      I recommend Data Doctor Recovery NTFS if you can get a copy. You'll need to network/attach another drive to store the recovered data on.
      If Data Recovery can't read the drive (and it will take hours), then you'll have to look at professional solutions if you can afford it.

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    5. Re:But is data recovery for real? by aliquis · · Score: 1

      So the later one is better? What's the disadvantages of the free trial? Only time or will it just show results without actually restoring something or such?

      To get another disc is no big deal at all if it doesn't have to be the same model and such.

    6. Re:But is data recovery for real? by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Btw I think the disc didn't showed up in the BIOS either, but I guess some programs may find it anyway.

    7. Re:But is data recovery for real? by BattleApple · · Score: 1

      What's the disadvantages of the free trial?

      It shows you what it can recover, then threatens to delete it all forever unless you pay for the software

    8. Re:But is data recovery for real? by number11 · · Score: 1

      If the drive is just failing without reason, and you don't think it's the mechanical stuff, you can buy an identical hard drive and swap out the controllers.

      I have had that work. I have also had that not work (when I was pretty sure it was a bad board). I suspect it depends on the differences between controller boards of different rev levels. Keep that in mind when you start googling to find a transplant candidate online.

    9. Re:But is data recovery for real? by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      The Auslogics free trial works for 30 days (uncrippled) if you can find it. I had this, but didn't use it.
      The Data Doctor NTFS can be found as a demo only and I think is crippled. http://www.datadoctor.in/data-recovery-software/ntfs-data-recovery-software.html
      I'm recommending Data Doctor as I've recovered important info of a few crashed drives. Worth the money. You could try your luck and torrent for it.
      There are also a few via google: http://www.pcinspector.de/Sites/file_recovery/info.htm?language=1 and maybe http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec - These are free.
      Generally if the drive spins up, you've got a chance to recover files. Just make sure you can access the drive off another computer, and have enough space to recover to.
      Also check some computer mags at newsagents. Many have free utilities included on disk that could be valuable.

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    10. Re:But is data recovery for real? by Wiseleo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The heads are flying above the surface on a tiny cushion of air - about half a micron. If the shock wave is sufficient to disturb the cushion, you got problems. Heads should never touch the surface. A destroyed heads stack is less critical than a destroyed platter surface may be.

      The reason for the fees being so high is because of all the R&D we have to perform in order to be able to fix these things.

      Each brand has its own ways of being fixed. The nature of the damage also alters the chances of recovery.

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    11. Re:But is data recovery for real? by Wiseleo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      GetDataBack is one of the better tools, in my experience. Active@ Undelete, UFS Explorer, and R-studio are also part of my arsenal.

      The problem with GetDataBack is that it takes forever to run.

      We only run programs like this on a read-only sector-level image of the damaged hard drive.

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    12. Re:But is data recovery for real? by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      The problem with GetDataBack is that it takes forever to run

      Exactly. For example it took ~8hrs for Data Doctor to rebuild a FAT in memory on an 80GB drive. Then there are multiple instances of the same folder/file which all have to be checked for access and content. It is laborious work and often not recognised by the clients how much time and effort is needed to get back their files.

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    13. Re:But is data recovery for real? by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      Maybe.
      If your drive cannot be seen in the bios, I would first re-seat the drive (pull it out and push it back in). Or try the drive on another system. You can get mini-ide to IDE or SATA cables/boxes if you want to go that far.
      There is a trick you can try that works with the old 20gb ipods. Sometimes these ipods (with toshiba drives), wouldn't boot. The trick was to drop the ipod (about 30cm on a desk & not concrete). This would often dislodge the parked arm that got stuck for some reason.
      As you can access the drive, I would tap the side sharply with a screwdriver handle. Does the same thing. If you have the drvice out, then you can tap it on the edge of the desk, reinsert it and try again.
      If it boots, then get everything off it you need and toss it away.

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    14. Re:But is data recovery for real? by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Yeah, TPB had DDRNTFS if it's any good. Do you know that they are better than some other products or is it just random product you've used?

      Do you know if it works just fine with an USB enclosure or should I get a 2.5 to 3.5" IDE cable? (Doubt it's sata.)

      Dealextreme sell 2.5" USB 2.0 ones for like 6 dollar including shipping so it's worth a try :)

      Do I just have to have another disk with whatever filesystem to save results on or does it need a disk it can do whatever it wants with?

      I have no idea if it spins up, haven't tested it anything on my own. I doubt it shows up in BIOS at least.

    15. Re:But is data recovery for real? by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Well, I'm not that stupid =P, but since the other guy worked in some computer store I guessed he had at least done very basic things such as using a 2.5 to 3.5" cable, try to find it in bios and if it showed up copy the data. If he had any special software I have no idea because I don't know the guy.

      Personally I would had preferred to try to make an image of the whole disc in case that's possible and work with that one. But I don't know if that works.

      And the professionals which worked with this kind of stuff recommended that one didn't do anything oneself first because one may damage it more, and I guess that's true if the heads is pulling along the plates or something like that .. But obviously one is sceptical if they can do much more than try with some simple program one could use oneself and just want to say such things to get more costumers.

    16. Re:But is data recovery for real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DDNTFS was about the 6th product I tried.
      It is very thorough. If you can't get anything with that then forget it or pay $1000 for a drive recovery where they pull the platters out etc.

      Connection is up to you. Speed doesn't matter as the process is very slow anyway.
      File system should be Windows and you recover to an NTFS folder on your own drive - or a slave drive.

      Find out how much space was used on the laptop drive. You need that much space to recover ALL the data on your drive. But mainly you would probably only recover data and not programs or the windows folder.
      Look for:
      Outlook/Express database files
      *.wab (MS Address book)
      Favorites/Bookmarks folders
      *.doc, *.xls files for MSOffice
      *.jpg *.mp3 *.wav
      Check all User Names in Documents and Settings too.
      Don't copy malware/viruses etc. Be selective and be prepared to leave your computer alone for a day if it's a badly crashed drive. Better to use a spare box running XP or WK2
      Don't forget to tap the drive if it's stuck.

      You could be lucky and DD can find lost partitions and bring back the drive in a few minutes. You just don't know unless you try.

  23. All too familiar by senorpoco · · Score: 1

    Click click click click click...... followed by the sound of uncontrollable weeping.

  24. When mine crashed by retech · · Score: 0, Redundant
  25. windows theme by tinkerton · · Score: 1

    Do these sounds come installable as part of a windows sound scheme?

    1. Re:windows theme by JosKarith · · Score: 1

      Nah, they're part of the base schema. With all the swap file use from your average windows install you'll be hearing one of these babies soon enough...

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  26. But you can't dance to it by Crash+Culligan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    adnonsense: It's almost musical. In an avant-garde sort of way.

    Heck, I figured that just by reading the summary. Imagine my disappointment, then, when I got to the page and discovered the sounds were all encapsulated in mini Flash players instead of available to download, trim down, and load into the sampler of my choice.

    Nice variety of sounds, but totally inaccessible. I give it a D.

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    1. Re:But you can't dance to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Get yourself a nice little present and install "FlashGot". It is a FireFox plugin and it will download whatever you like, including Flash and embedded media.

    2. Re:But you can't dance to it by confused+one · · Score: 2, Funny

      come on guy. Do an analog loop back and use Audacity to capture it.

    3. Re:But you can't dance to it by fbjon · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with a digital loopback? Just record the stereo mix component, or use some virtual cable software.

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    4. Re:But you can't dance to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any sound hardware worth a singular damn can record the digital output directly. Much easier. :)

    5. Re:But you can't dance to it by maxume · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What's wrong with sniffing your traffic with Wireshark and downloading the mp3's directly?

      There might be some sort of issue with an ampersand though.

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    6. Re:But you can't dance to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Nice variety of sounds, but totally inaccessible. I give it a D."

      Dude, you're not Slashdot material if you didn't check the page source. The URLs are right there!

    7. Re:But you can't dance to it by BrentH · · Score: 1

      I sometimes get lucky simply by renaming suspicious temp files in firefox' tempdir to mp3. Usually you can discriminate on size which are probably the files you're looking for (mp3s tend to be bigger than the millions of 10kb ish files in the tempdir).

    8. Re:But you can't dance to it by zzptichka · · Score: 1
    9. Re:But you can't dance to it by lysergic.acid · · Score: 1

      that just moves the flash file from the 'temporary internet files' folder to another location. it'll still be a .swf file. unless there's a way to extract audio streams from .swf files it'd still be useless for mixing.

      as a side note, i personally use the DownloadThemAll! extension to download links & embeds. it's pre-configured for downloading images, archives (.rar, .zip, etc.), videos, audio, software (.xpi, .exe, etc.), and it also supports DOS/Unix-type wildcards in addition to regexp filters.

    10. Re:But you can't dance to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of the mp3 files. Use the source to find the names of the rest.

    11. Re:But you can't dance to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was wondering if somebody would remix them in a musical manner...

      Anyhow, why not just load up Audacity and record the system sound while playing each flash? Then cut out the dead space and save. May not be exactly the quality you're looking for, but if you can play it - you should be able to record it.

      Anyhow, post to YouTube when you get to doing the workaround. I'd give it a listen.

    12. Re:But you can't dance to it by mashade · · Score: 1

      View source on the page. The links to the MP3s of the sounds are in the open.

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    13. Re:But you can't dance to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or, view source and get creative...

      [lostsync::alice ~/drives]$ for i in `cat drivemp3s.urls`; do wget http://www.datacent.com${i}; done
      [lostsync::alice ~/drives]$ for i in `ls -l *.mp3 | awk '{ print $8 }'`; do mv $i `echo $i | cut -c 19-`; done

    14. Re:But you can't dance to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice variety of sounds, but totally inaccessible. I give it a D.

      Ubuntu. Sound Recorder. No problem!

    15. Re:But you can't dance to it by mrwolf007 · · Score: 1

      Tried mencoder? Or mplayer -dumpaudio ?
      Havent tried it with flash files but should work.

  27. Seagate and Quantumfunkel by Alarindris · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hello hard drive, my old friend.
    I've come to boot you up again,
    Because a vision softly creeping
    Left its seeds while I was sleeping
    And the vision that was planted in my brain
    Still remains
    Within the sound of failure.

    In restless dreams I walked alone.
    Narrow halls of servers drone
    neath the halo of an office lamp.
    I lay my forehead gently in my hand
    When my ears were stabbed by the grinding of
    A faulty drive
    That split the night
    And touched the sound of failure.

    1. Re:Seagate and Quantumfunkel by vudufixit · · Score: 1

      Sorry... not about a drive, but I still remember the ode I wrote to a huge OCE brand copier that was broken more than it was operable.... OCE can't you see? By the fluorestent light What so frequently failed, and caused such a reaming. And the managers' glare... Pink slips falling through air... Gave proof to us all, that this slag was still there... OCE does this breakage-prone copier yet lay... O'er the land of the unfree and the home, of, the frayed....

    2. Re:Seagate and Quantumfunkel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Burma Shave

    3. Re:Seagate and Quantumfunkel by BattleApple · · Score: 1

      I hear ya... I used to repair all the Oce copiers at a university. The introduction in the Oce service manuals had kind of a funny statement.. something like "Our goal is not to produce a product that is free of service calls" basically, it went onto say the machines *should* break down every once in a while, but service calls should be fairly quick.
      Of course everyone knows that parts/service is big business, but to see it stated in the manual like that was kind of funny.

    4. Re:Seagate and Quantumfunkel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This would work even better set to music of Nevermore's remake of the song. }:-D

    5. Re:Seagate and Quantumfunkel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you know that, listening to Simon & Garfunkel BACKWARDS, you will find messages related to marijuana in almost every song? (really, try it!)

  28. I wonder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how the hard drives in their data centre will sound after the slashdotting they just received.

  29. Dooooooooop! by Legion303 · · Score: 1

    This link was almost as interesting as it was the first time it was posted on Slashdot, 3-4 years ago.

    1. Re:Dooooooooop! by Atti+K. · · Score: 1

      I wonder if they had sounds from 500GB drives 3-4 years ago.

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    2. Re:Dooooooooop! by Legion303 · · Score: 1

      Why wouldn't they?

    3. Re:Dooooooooop! by Atti+K. · · Score: 1

      Maybe because the first 500 GB drives appeared somewhere during 2006 and the first 500 GB laptop drives just this year?

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    4. Re:Dooooooooop! by Legion303 · · Score: 1

      1. You may want to check your drive history, because you're mistaken.
      2. It turns out links on this internet thingy can be updated, rendering that part of the conversation moot.
      3. Updated dupe links are still dupes, and
      4. My point stands.

    5. Re:Dooooooooop! by Atti+K. · · Score: 1

      1. You may want to check your drive history, because you're mistaken.

      [Citation needed].

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    6. Re:Dooooooooop! by Legion303 · · Score: 1

      "[Citation needed]."

      Try Google. It's this awesome new search engine that provides facts when you enter the right search terms.

  30. Gizmodo Drive Death Dance Track Competition by jcims · · Score: 1

    Gizmodo had a competition a few years ago:

    http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/announcements/hard-drive-dying-dance-track-winner-151666.php

    The winner was incredible, entirely synthesized from drive failure sounds:

    http://media.odeo.com/9/4/2/Hitachi_Hard-Drive_Project_-_Noriko_Version.mp3

    or

    http://beemp3.com/download.php?file=1512610&song=

    1. Re:Gizmodo Drive Death Dance Track Competition by nobleswan · · Score: 1

      Gizmodo had a competition a few years ago: The winner was incredible, entirely synthesized from drive failure sounds

      That tune has been in heavy rotation on iPod ever since that contest!

    2. Re:Gizmodo Drive Death Dance Track Competition by EmperorKagato · · Score: 1

      Sounds like someone has been playing Earthbound.

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  31. My pet theory here... by vudufixit · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think that hard drives fail earlier and more often than people realize. I've believed for a while now that "winrot" and general perceived operating system instability are most often caused by hard drives in the beginning stages of failure. I think it's an underrated cause of random crashes, and boot errors such as "missing c:\windows\system32\hal.dll, etc" I wish the hardware vendors (Dell, Gateway, Apple, etc) would take more responsbility and be quicker to blame the drive (and replace it), instead of blindly having the end user run the recovery routine. Performing the recovery only papers over the underlying problem by temporarily rebuilding the file system. Because the substrate upon which the operating system rests is decaying, it's only a matter of time before the problems crop up again.

    1. Re:My pet theory here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I once had a failing Maxtor on which my Windows resided. After reinstalling Windows four times I got clever and tossed that drive away. It lasted a few boots after install before I got the missing hal.dll error. So that's only one failed hdd here out of about 25.

    2. Re:My pet theory here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work at a service center at a university, we service Dells, IBM/Lenovos, Apples, and a few others. When a system can't boot, we ALWAYS run a thorough hard drive diagnostic. Always. It takes less time than a reload and prevents us from wasting that time doing the reload when we'll just have to do it again later. Plus, if it's a hard drive failure, the warranty pays for it, not the customer, and that always makes them happier :P

      We usually work with laptops, so HDD failure is the number one problem we deal with. But software problems are prevalent enough that I don't think it's unreasonable for vendors to talk the customer through a reload to see if it fixes the problem, unless they have built-in diagnostics (like Dell).

    3. Re:My pet theory here... by Ephemeriis · · Score: 1

      I think that hard drives fail earlier and more often than people realize.
          I've believed for a while now that "winrot" and general perceived operating system instability are most often caused by hard drives in the beginning stages of failure.
          I think it's an underrated cause of random crashes, and boot errors such as "missing c:\windows\system32\hal.dll, etc"
          I wish the hardware vendors (Dell, Gateway, Apple, etc) would take more responsbility and be quicker to blame the drive (and replace it), instead of blindly having the end user run the recovery routine. Performing the recovery only papers over the underlying problem by temporarily rebuilding the file system. Because the substrate upon which the operating system rests is decaying, it's only a matter of time before the problems crop up again.

      It's really hard to say...

      A failing HDD certainly can cause trouble. And I've definitely seen Dell blame Windows for what was ultimately a hardware failure. But Windows certainly has plenty of issues as well.

      I really hate to say it, but we've pretty much hit the point where many people are better off treating a computer as disposable.

      Most folks are able to use a Windows machine without too many issues for 1 or 2 years. After that it starts getting crudded up with malware. Many of these users are unable to keep the malware off their machine in the first place, and are completely unable to clean it off once it arrives. So then they're looking at either spending some time on the phone with Dell learning how to reload their machines, or they'll pay someone like me a couple hundred dollars to reload it for them.

      Or, they could buy a new computer from Dell for $400 or so. It won't have all the malware that their old machine is bogged down with, it'll have newer hardware, it'll have newer software, and it'll come with a new warranty. Sounds like an all-around win to me.

      Unfortunately, that doesn't encourage anyone to actually turn out a quality product. Why bother fixing all the issues with Windows if we can sell another license in a couple years by leaving it this way? Why bother building higher quality hardware if we can sell another machine in a couple years by leaving it this way?

      The alternative, of course, is to bypass the whole OEM market and do it yourself. But that's beyond the scope of what most home users are willing to do.

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    4. Re:My pet theory here... by maxume · · Score: 1

      My current speculation is that most winrot is Windows falling back from DMA disk access to PIO (or simply to an older DMA standard). If things fall back to PIO, not only is disk access like molasses, all sorts of soft-hardware stops working because of the interrupts from the disk and the computer simply seems broken.

      I don't know enough about it to have a worthwhile opinion, but it seems like the current generation of super-capacity drives may have a higher rate of issues per interface than Windows is made to handle gracefully, exacerbating the problem (the current behavior is to fall back on errors and never try to move up to a faster standard).

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    5. Re:My pet theory here... by cowbutt · · Score: 1
      I've believed for a while now that "winrot" and general perceived operating system instability are most often caused by hard drives in the beginning stages of failure. I think it's an underrated cause of random crashes, and boot errors such as "missing c:\windows\system32\hal.dll, etc" I wish the hardware vendors (Dell, Gateway, Apple, etc) would take more responsbility and be quicker to blame the drive (and replace it), instead of blindly having the end user run the recovery routine. Performing the recovery only papers over the underlying problem by temporarily rebuilding the file system.

      Yes and no. Read errors can develop at any time and potentially take out key OS files when they do. However, this is expected behaviour for a hard disc and is a good reason to have backups. Reinstalling the OS will have the side effect of testing every block that's written, and forcing it to be re-allocated by the drive firmware if it has failed (a better strategy would be to write to every block on the disc before doing the reinstall). Once all failed blocks have been re-written (and re-allocated), the drive is pretty much as good as new, as long as there are still sufficient spare blocks left for future failures and re-allocations.

      The short story is that read errors develop, even on healthy drives, but a drive that develops write errors should be returned under warranty or binned.

    6. Re:My pet theory here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If this were widespread, wouldn't "Linux rot" and "Mac rot" be issues as well?

    7. Re:My pet theory here... by evilviper · · Score: 1

      I've believed for a while now that "winrot" and general perceived operating system instability are most often caused by hard drives in the beginning stages of failure.

      I'm quite sure you're wrong.

      Even an unresponsive hard drive should not cause Windows to crash (not since 9x went away, at least). And hard drives simply don't go through their death throes for long... If you have a failing HDD, you'll know it for sure within about a month of regular use.

      I think it's an underrated cause of random crashes, and boot errors such as "missing c:\windows\system32\hal.dll, etc"

      The latter can certainly be caused by a bad HDD, but it's a very rare error to get, and even then, it's much more often caused by a failed windows update, a worm/virus infection, or some application behaving badly and corrupting files or RAM.

      Windows is terribly unstable for no good reason. Like everything else in life which you can't guess and can't control, people develop all sorts of superstitions about things which cause it, and ways they can control it... But like all superstitions, they're nonsense, and out of your control. The hardware has very, very little to do with Windows instability. Those who have stopped running Windows entirely can attest that even cheap junk hardware runs 99.9% stable, and the rare hardware error is not subtle enough to be missed for long.

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    8. Re:My pet theory here... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Do you ahve any evidence?
      Or is this all some 'belief'?

      When ever I had winrot and reinstalled the system, it always got better.

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  32. The Chainsaw by Yarcofin · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't really want to go through the horror of listening through all those sound files, but from my own personal experience I don't think "the chainsaw" is on there. When my hard drive crashed, it started with a soft noise which within 30 seconds built to an extremely loud noise akin to a chainsaw, before suddenly and completely seizing up.

    1. Re:The Chainsaw by fbjon · · Score: 1

      There's a couple of sounds in the list from failed bearings that are quite hair-raising.

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  33. It asks the question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... if a hard drive crashes in a server forest, does it make a sound?

  34. Beowulf cluster of broken drives... by netglen · · Score: 1

    ahh never mind.

  35. OK, now we need... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...software that uses the PC's microphone to listen to the hard drive and compare the input to the failure sounds, giving the user a warning that their drive is on the way out. /not sure whether I'm being sarcastic or not.

    1. Re:OK, now we need... by EmperorKagato · · Score: 1

      That's what S.M.A.R.T is for.

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  36. Sounds at different drive speeds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It would be interesting to see what it sounds like when a 5400,7200,10k,15k drive
    fails and would it be different? If so, I could tell from the sound at least the
    drive speed. Is it different for SCSI, IDE, SATA, USB???

  37. I have myself a new project for the day by jridley · · Score: 1

    Writing a daemon that sits on the machine and plays one of these at slowly increasing volume for 5 seconds at a time throughout the day.

    Heh heh...

  38. Too bad nobody posted this earlier... by denzacar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Like... BEFORE Halloween.

    Some of the scariest sounds I've heard in years.

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  39. Re:Seagate and Quantumfunkel... Franky! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, what a night, late December back in '93
    What a very special time for me
    As I remember what a night!

    Oh what a night,
    You know I didn't even know the name
    Maxtor, Seagate gonna be the same
    Grinding clicking, what a night!

    Oh, I got a funny feeling at the first reboot
    And I, as I recall with utter disbelief it ended much too soon..

    (Oh what a night),

  40. Smell of failing drive by jmyers · · Score: 2, Funny

    You young whipper snappers talk of the sound of failing drives. I remember and can never forget the smell of failing drives. When you get the call that the system wont boot up and you walk into the computer room to the very distinct smell of a head crash on a 14" platter. You ask the operator "where are the backup disks?" and she says "I tried them all and none of them will work". Oh crap she just trashed the backups.

    1. Re:Smell of failing drive by snspdaarf · · Score: 1

      I know someone that did that! Four disk packs and two CDC drives later, it was all over but the shouting.

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  41. /. ed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think their harddrive(s) crashed...
    ether that or they got slashdoted

  42. Koan by beansprouts · · Score: 0

    What's the sound of a flash-based HD failing?

  43. It's worse than you think: by GXTi · · Score: 1

    The 1812 Overture.

  44. Better than the sound of an unfailing drive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In times of yore, we had a server in the living room. The hard drive was a full height 5¼ inch SCSI drive with something like 140MB of storage.

    It got louder after years. And louder. There were times when you got the sound of a rotary saw when pushing a log through: a loud grinding noise accompanied by a drop of rotation speed that slowly recuperated.

    Quite an incentive for making backups. The damn thing never showed a single bad byte in spite of all that. They probably had a loudspeaker built in instead of S.M.A.R.T. in order to convince the sysadmins that a replacement would make the sales department happy.

    Finally, after being a conversation piece for at least a year and long expected and scheduled to die spectacularly, I had to give up and replace it anyway since the noise was beginning to endanger my relationship.

    Probably too late, but that's a different story.

    1. Re:Better than the sound of an unfailing drive by CompMD · · Score: 1

      I have a Silicon Graphics Iris Indigo that keeps chugging along. The original 420MB 3.5" SCSI hard drive is still in it, along with an added 1.2GB drive. The bigger drive was added 15 years ago as a precautionary measure when the original drive started doing exactly what you described. It sounds like a chainsaw to this day and is LOUD. But today, 15 years after it started being really loud, it still works great.

    2. Re:Better than the sound of an unfailing drive by Reziac · · Score: 1

      I had a W.D. 6GB that made the most horrific clanking noises when it was doing its thermal calibration routine... it did this for 8 years before finally going tits-up (at which point it would sometimes lock up the system), but it never lost any data.

      Its twin brother is now 11 years old and still in 24/7 use. It never made any noise, tho :)

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  45. Ironically... by Moryath · · Score: 4, Funny

    about 10 minutes ago, all of their hard drives started making those "bad bearing" noises.

    Then they realized they'd been slashdotted and the servers were melting.

    Think we can get them to record the sound of a server dying to Slashdot Effect?

    1. Re:Ironically... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I never heard my hard drive complain when i last got slashdotted as it runs from a floppy drive www.c64web.com runs from a commodore 64

  46. Ok, you win too by justthinkit · · Score: 1

    (1) You got your +5.
    (2) You added '?sl' to your link.
    (3) So, did you profit?

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  47. Click, click, click, click by justthinkit · · Score: 1

    To the first four notes of Beethoven's fifth.

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  48. Dance Track by tuba_dude · · Score: 1

    A couple years ago, Gizmodo had a contest to make music out of Hitachi dead hard drive sounds. :D http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/announcements/hard-drive-dying-dance-track-winner-151666.php

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  49. So what to do when this happens? by Reapman · · Score: 1

    Reading this made me wonder, what can a regular ol techie do, if anything, in this situation? I'm sure most people on here know the freezer trick (store in a ziplock bag for 5 minutes, let sit outside for about 10 min, then it might work for a bit again, I think it's to get the bearings going again) But what other tricks out there are there to get the data going again, other then getting it professionally fixed up? Can you do a firmware flash on some of the drives?

    1. Re:So what to do when this happens? by Wiseleo · · Score: 1

      Seagate and Samsung drives have an rs-232 diagnostic port. Not that it will be extremely useful on its own, but some things are written in plain English.

      Another common cause of drive failure is a TVS. Removing that from the board sometimes springs the drive back to life long enough to recover the data.

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  50. My story by chrysrobyn · · Score: 1

    I'm certain everybody has their own hard drive death story, but here's mine.

    I had a summer internship for an IT department at a large engineering firm. I wasn't afraid of Unix, so I was blessed working with that department (1995?). There were these HP 735 (PA-RISC) systems that had recalled hard drives. We were given serial numbers of the drives recalled, but had no way to map the recalled serial numbers to the workstations themselves. The team decided there was no way to realistically handle the recall, so we'd just swap out drives as they failed. Everything was stored on the network and there were only about 4 config files that were unique to each box, so the inconvenience was minimal. After about three failures, I learned the sound they made. Each day I'd walk through a building or a floor, track down and record the boxes that made the sound, take them down at lunch to verify the serial number, then schedule a swapout with the user. "Listening to your hard drive, I have reason to believe it's been recalled and will fail soon" was a pretty good way to get flexibility from a user.

    One day, I'd forgotten my list of recalled serial numbers so I called the admin who was overseeing this issue and asked her if she'd mind looking for some numbers. She thought I was kidding and told me to just come back and get my list (way on the other side of the plant). On the third hit on her list, she asked me why I was asking her for these numbers if I already knew they were there. She didn't believe me that I could hear the failing drives but I was able to get over 50 this method; I think I missed about 5. There were areas of the plant that had workstations I never knew to look for, but they came to us soon enough.

  51. Best ones + direct links by noidentity · · Score: 1

    Some of the best ones, with direct links to the mp3s (on Coral Cache):

  52. zzptichka for TechnoPope! by Crash+Culligan · · Score: 1

    And martyrdom for Datacent's servers:

    Datacent's sound page: If you want to download mp3 files please come back tomorrow. We've been slashdotted and it really hurts. Thanks.

    Since they asked nicely, I'll wait a few days. Now I just have to decide what sequencer to run these up in...

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  53. I can still hear by Kingston · · Score: 1

    Well their site seams totally slashdotted and the page text won't load. At least the sounds loaded, I can clearly hear the whining, grinding noise of a dying drive array. Oh wait I left the server room door open, I'll just close it, that's funny the sound stopped. ............ NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo !

  54. If you don't have the cash for recovery... by polyomninym · · Score: 1

    I suggest using SpinRite on your hardrives. Watch the 2 videos on their website, very impressive software. I've been doing emergency data recovery for years and have many tools. I bought a copy and am very pleased, using it on drive I have. SpinRite can't fix everything, some hardrives are mechanically inaccessible and therefore must be recovered the expensive way. At least watch the videos, they are very informative.

  55. Hold on a millisecond by denttford · · Score: 1
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  56. Missing the "Hitachi meow" by Saberwind · · Score: 1

    I used to have an MP3 file of the "Hitachi meow", but can't find it now. It may have been a normal sound as opposed to one indicative of an impending drive failure, though.

  57. That Still, Small Chirp by st1d · · Score: 1

    Had a maxtor 80G die about a month ago. Didn't even realize what it was, every 1/2 hour or so a single, quiet "chirp" would sound. Just above audible, more like background noise, it took me maybe 2 weeks to nail it down as not just my imagination or a bird flying by outside.

    Being notably lazy, chalked it up to a dying fan (3 + CPU fan), and put it on my lengthy to-do list. Finally the noise started to increase to the point of slightly annoying, but still was up in the 10+ minute range, long enough that I'd give up hunting for it after a while. I decided I'd deal with it once it was steady enough to isolate.

    And it did. Problem was, when it was finally making the noise every couple minutes, I restarted the system, and got that beloved "click, click, click" that is undeniably bad (the kind that makes your power supply freak out). Needless to say, it didn't boot.

    The good news was, it was an old drive, I was basically using it to boot and a partition of it as a swap drive. Everything of remote value on it had been copied off it long ago (it's 8 years old, it wasn't entirely a shock that it died).

    The bummer was that it died like it did. I've seen plenty of drives die, but either you get plenty of clear warning (after the first one), or they just fail. I've never had one "chirp" so delicately for so long. It lasted at least 2 months since it started, running nearly 24/7. The drive itself showed nothing aside from the usual wear you'd expect after such a long run.

    It wasn't that it died, it was that it caught me off-guard the way it did, mixed with the realization that sometimes I'm a little too lazy...

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  58. Re:Anonymous Coward "Worried".. Well, by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    If the hard drive owners come to you saying they own her vocal cords or the sounds her vocal cords make... Because they are using the Harley-Davidson vs Honda muffler trademark/patent defense...

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1464309/posts

    http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/11/21/harley-davidson-dynamic-exhaust-system-patent/

    If the hard drive manufacturers want, i imagine they could try such a stunt. But, the backlash might be more than they can handle.

    But, if your wife can shatter glass, fend off attorneys, and kill hard drives and stop car ignitions, she might be worth all you can defend her for...

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  59. Torrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    It's badly slashdotted, and annoyingly wrapped in Flash, so I scraped out the MP3s and put them in a torrent (2MB). It's at http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4504421. Enjoy!

    1. Re:Torrent by MudBoy · · Score: 1

      thanks

  60. The far side of the bell curve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We have an old VAXstation still in use here; it was built in 1989, and has a 1990 vintage 204MB and 1991 vintage 425MB drive in it. Both have been in use 24x7 since around 1992, the last time this box was upgraded (to 32MB of RAM, woohoo!). They're noisy, but they always have been.

    The system is not heavily loaded, and is idle at night, so it wouldn't be fair to compare these to heavily used server drives. The workstation only goes down for power failures, hooking a CDR or tape device to its external bus (for VAX specific data work) or when we've moved it.

    Maybe its just because they're DEC drives ;)

  61. you should know better ... by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

    ... Never buy Freddy Digital!
    Their cache hacks you away!

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  62. Sounds of Hard Drives From space by w0mprat · · Score: 1

    I once worked with a technician who said listening to hard drive. He went to the extreme of recording the sound to a .wav on his network share with a microphone. I thought this was stupid and mocked him, I was obliged to, but he'd turn out to be right too often, far more right than SMART warning data, which is really only effective in a small number of cases I've found, maybe 30-40%.

    I have seagate drives from 160-500gb, new seagates are stealthy quiet, but tend to become more audible as they age, then suddenly die usually without reporting much via SMART. An old Maxtor 80gb has been doing the clicks of death and randomly locking up my Mythbuntu box. From experience these drives give good warning you need to backup.

    On a tangent: This for some reason reminds me of http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7687286.stm - it was ironic that the real sounds of space sound eerily like 1950s and later sci-fi movie space sound effects. I have a 10gb Seagate from 2001 that sounds like some hybrid of a jet engine and a buzz saw - becoming increasingly loud. I should record the sound it makes: all it needs is a cool doppler effect and it would sound like the millenium falcon screaming past.

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  63. Slashdoted by Garry+Sizzle · · Score: 1

    We've got the disks in the web server squeaking! This page has received more than a million hits in the last several hours. We had to remove it as a temporary measure. Please come back later.

  64. where did that webpage go? by ProphetPX777 · · Score: 1

    the original link in the article no longer works. I got a webserver error of some sort.

    does anyone have copies of the sounds, or a mirror site?

    I really need to compare these sounds because I think 2 of my drives are failing :-(

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  65. Obligatory - 1 2 3 .... by aqk · · Score: 1

    1. Download the referenced "sounds" url in the article.

    2. Invite the DBA into the server or hardware room and play sounds.

    3. Profit!
        (when the DBA has a heart attack, and you hire a much cheaper one -or outsource job to Bangalore)

    OKayy... don't like the above?
    Well, then- In Soviet Cruz, hard disk crashes YOU! -

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