Hi, my name's Marc - I switched back 6 months ago...
But seriously forks.
I'd just like to commend you on what you've done. I mean telling everyone about switching back.
I too began using linux around RH5 and done the distro switch back and forth, dual booting windows, linux, 98, NT4, 2K Caldera, Suse, Mandrake etc. (even tried winME)
I agree that unix isn't a viable desktop OS. I'm a unix admin by profession and love what it does for servers - I listen to the guys at work bitching about their 2K server needing to be rebooted *again* or how the latest new virus took them out for 3 days. I've never encountered any of that.
But in the desktop world, where I've had to turn to unstable X releases for my latest ATI card (suckered onto my 3rd ATI card now) and like you said about burning, it was a hassle. Although I am a developer by trade I agree about having to recompile everything - not worth it. Everything should come in a binary package (yes with a separate package database from the OS) with source on hand if you want to tweak it or review it.
I have since stuck with XP on my laptop and desktop, and left linux (OpenBSD too) to my firewall and server. I know there's more like us out there, my friends are a few of them, and hopefully Linux will change, and hopefully the elitists will become non-elite.
My case has no cover, my drives are not screwed into bays, I have ribbon cables coming out of my case attached to drives sitting beside a power supply from some other old machine used to power because I have more IDE slots than power connectors from my PC.
I'm thinking it's a good thing I kept those old 500M and 1G HD's that I dont use. I could mod one of them, set it atop the old PS, plug it in, write some cronjob to randomly read and write to various areas on the disk at 2 minute intervals, and just have an entertainment device setting beside my PC for bragging rights(those mean more than karma).
'scuse me ladies, would you like to have sex.. in exchange for... some sex? --Rocco, Undergrads
what if the OS had a hook in it to like
`kill -FREEZE <pid>`
No new hardware, only done once, will work on all processes.
And as described previously, the FREEZE signal would cause the process to dump execution code, memory pages, FD's etc. etc. to a dump file.
reboot the system.
Then find some way to execute that dump file which will in turn load FD's, pages, execution code, and resume with the IP (instruction pointer, not IP Addr. for those not arch inclined) in the same spot?
/me isnt much of a kernel hacker so I dont know the details of how to do, but that's my high level solution.
I know, troll, troll, troll...
but I like my unhackable 286 that I threw away after having pulled off all the chips and cracked open the ceramic casing on the CPU, and dismantling the HD and putting the platters on my cork board...
But it proves the points that a system can be unhackable, and it helps the point that there's a balance between hackability and useability.
I would like to say that school isn't always a bitch. My advice, don't go to a university to get technical knowledge. Universities teach you how to learn, tech schools teach you how to do.
Example: I took a two year CST Diploma at BCIT majoring in Data Communications. When I was there I had numerous industry standard projects, as well as 2 projects actually working for local companies (like the CerfCube people at Intrinsyc)
My older brother on the other hand took 4 years of commerce at UBC, worked 3 years as a loans officer at the bank of montreal, got pissed off with his job and is now taking what I took at BCIT.
I enjoyed school so much, when I was there I had a job in computer resources, I had classes 6-8 hours a day, worked 12 hours a week, and stayed at school until at least midnight doing projects. Usually I ended up sleeping at school because going home was a waste of time.
I landed the first job I asked for at a higher salary than I asked for, and every single person from my class got exactly what they wanted.
Just the flip side to school being a bitch...
It could be a religious thing.
I never did like high school, and I had to use Macs in highschool... Maybe that's why I dont mind IBM PPC running AIX but I dont like Mac PPC running MacOS?
I never associated windows, linux, solaris, or bsd with school so I use them. I used macs at school and I vowed never to use them again.
NV ram - works on my ATI video card, whenever I poweroff after a game freezes, just before windows starts up again I have about.75 seconds where I can see the frozen frame of my game.
And that's with cutting the power from the PS (closer and faster than the main soft power button), so NV seems like it'd do the job.
One of the original Unix guys wrote a compiler that would compile a backdoor into the login program. It would also compile the ability to enter a backdoor into other compilers when they were compiled from source - the backdoor only existed in source format for the first compile - after that it resided in the binary executables only. I wish I could find the link for you, but I cant. I think the US Gov't might want to hire his services right now....
Actually, when talking about bits it is base 10 counting - so a megabit per second is actually 1000000 bits per second (it is based on Time not on registers and memory addresses so there's no need to use base 2)
You're the kind of jackass who calls me saying your not getting good speed because your 100Mbps direct ethernet connection is only getting 2MBps of data throughput, cause you forgot to calculate each layer's overhead value.
You want such a device - look a the previously posted `3" linux box' - cerfcube from intrinsyc (www.intrinsyc.com)
Some of my old schoolmates work for Intrinsyc and they are working on getting a completely self programmable (OS uploading via serial port to flash rom) home router running linux.
Maybe a bit more than $200 (CDN that is) but I'm first in line when they get released.
I think we canadians are just fed up with people making fun of our military. Now someone's done it. They've gone and taken the gun and started a war.
You hear comedians talking about it all the time on Just for Laughs, well now it's happened.
I just hope that no one realizes that when we say we spent billions on R&D for our new B-Double-A's that it actually stands for Bow And Arrow.
I realize the seriousness of what's been going on, and my sorrow and prayers go out for those in need, but I do think it necessary to be light-hearted and to find ways to laugh at life and to keep moving on.
I disagree with arming all flight staff. Not everyone likes to be gun-toting and power hungry, and your average man could easily out-muscle your average flight attendant from behind before she could grab the gun.
As for better protecting the cockpit, I agree. Maybe something more than a cloth curtain or particle board door is in order, how about someting like steel with a keyless deadbolt? Maybe a firearm in a lockbox in the cockpit? Something that can actually keep people out.
Do you think that restricting the exportation of encryption algorithms, and the number of bits used would have prevented such an attack? Do you think that Americans are the only ones who know how to create and use encryption unless they give others the tools to use it?
I dont think encryption use or funding for/against it is a reasonable factor against those 50,000 lives.
Now he had some pretty good games...
I dont remember any violence in chopping down a tree to climb down and get eaten by chiggers, or grabbing a statue of a blue ox and saying bunyon.
defautlt IE on 98 never had chinese language support, but the installations are the same. You get to a page that requires java, and it pops up the "IE auto update" feature.
Nuthin too scary - you do it once and it's done. It's not like going to find real player or adobe, it auto-updates the JVM.
I didnt even realize until you guys mentioned it that that is what happened while I was playing with XP RC1
I'm not saying I agree or disagree either way - but in college I had to create a distributed processing program in java to run on multiple platforms.
My team decided to take some of the stuff we learned in our graphics class and create a network renderer (it really sucked but it worked). We used OpenGL extensions available for java, and we used Sun's JRE 1.2.2 (I think) on both windows and Red Hat 6.something.
We were able to write 1 copy of each source file, compile it once only to a class file and used the _exact_ _same_ class files (shared over SMB) to run on both windows (NT4) and linux at the same time. I would consider that to be one example of WORA.
Keep in mind I dont consider myself a java guru or even an up-to-date developer, just one example of some (almost) useful application that worked WORAlly.
If I remember my Business Law in Canada course they shoved down my throat while I was taking data communications, the only thing you automatically get is (c) copyright. Everything else has to be registered. Now if someone else tries to register something, and you can prove that you had it first, you can retroactively register ie. say that they cant register because it was your first and your registering now. But I also ANAL...
I do remember asking the diff between TM and R and my teacher told me it's just preference, whichever you want to put...
And I'm not talking about any of that ergonomic footrests and back placements and keyboards.
My workplace is a lazy boy chair, my 19" monitor at 800x600 propped up on a a few boards laid accross two end tables cordless keyboard in the lap, cordless mouse on a book on the armrest of the lazy boy.
Great not only for the back, but also prevents unsightly keyboard marks on the face when you fall asleep working on that project for 72 hours straight:)
Also great for gaming... except I still need to find a way to get a steering wheel onto my lap and pedals on the footrest of the chair for driving games.
Not all sysadmins are active code developers. Although I started computers with a coding background and later moved to sysadmin - most people I work with were sysadmins from the start and some are learning to code on the side.
Maybe this guy can code, maybe he can't. From my experience, people who like coding on sparc prefer solaris, but maybe someone who's good at coding for x86 might want to learn to port to sparc and would be of better use...
with free binary licenses for Sol8 why would tru sparc fans not use that over Linux?
If linux distro's get that same mindset they might as well focus their efforts in a larger market.
I dont agree w/ this but it's just what I think
I get paid based on 37.5 hr/wk. (7.5/day)
I'm at work from roughly 8-3, so 7 hours/day, but of that I spend maybe an hour sifting through email, reading backup notifications etc. Sometimes when I feel like it I sift through our scripts and do some tweaking. On average I WORK about 10 hours. But when it gets busy, or something breaks, I can finish it/fix it in record time so I guess that makes up for it, oh, and I dont usually charge the OT when I get paged off hours.
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Hi, my name's Marc - I switched back 6 months ago...
But seriously forks.
I'd just like to commend you on what you've done. I mean telling everyone about switching back.
I too began using linux around RH5 and done the distro switch back and forth, dual booting windows, linux, 98, NT4, 2K Caldera, Suse, Mandrake etc. (even tried winME)
I agree that unix isn't a viable desktop OS. I'm a unix admin by profession and love what it does for servers - I listen to the guys at work bitching about their 2K server needing to be rebooted *again* or how the latest new virus took them out for 3 days. I've never encountered any of that.
But in the desktop world, where I've had to turn to unstable X releases for my latest ATI card (suckered onto my 3rd ATI card now) and like you said about burning, it was a hassle.
Although I am a developer by trade I agree about having to recompile everything - not worth it. Everything should come in a binary package (yes with a separate package database from the OS) with source on hand if you want to tweak it or review it.
I have since stuck with XP on my laptop and desktop, and left linux (OpenBSD too) to my firewall and server. I know there's more like us out there, my friends are a few of them, and hopefully Linux will change, and hopefully the elitists will become non-elite.
I dont know if you've played War3 yet (War3 Multiplayer Beta) but I'd use Night Elf Lawyers, oh and then there's the Undead Lawyers...
My case has no cover, my drives are not screwed into bays, I have ribbon cables coming out of my case attached to drives sitting beside a power supply from some other old machine used to power because I have more IDE slots than power connectors from my PC.
I'm thinking it's a good thing I kept those old 500M and 1G HD's that I dont use. I could mod one of them, set it atop the old PS, plug it in, write some cronjob to randomly read and write to various areas on the disk at 2 minute intervals, and just have an entertainment device setting beside my PC for bragging rights(those mean more than karma).
'scuse me ladies, would you like to have sex.. in exchange for... some sex? --Rocco, Undergrads
what if the OS had a hook in it to like
`kill -FREEZE <pid>`
No new hardware, only done once, will work on all processes.
And as described previously, the FREEZE signal would cause the process to dump execution code, memory pages, FD's etc. etc. to a dump file.
reboot the system.
Then find some way to execute that dump file which will in turn load FD's, pages, execution code, and resume with the IP (instruction pointer, not IP Addr. for those not arch inclined) in the same spot?
/me isnt much of a kernel hacker so I dont know the details of how to do, but that's my high level solution.
I know, troll, troll, troll...
but I like my unhackable 286 that I threw away after having pulled off all the chips and cracked open the ceramic casing on the CPU, and dismantling the HD and putting the platters on my cork board...
But it proves the points that a system can be unhackable, and it helps the point that there's a balance between hackability and useability.
I would like to say that school isn't always a bitch. My advice, don't go to a university to get technical knowledge. Universities teach you how to learn, tech schools teach you how to do. Example: I took a two year CST Diploma at BCIT majoring in Data Communications. When I was there I had numerous industry standard projects, as well as 2 projects actually working for local companies (like the CerfCube people at Intrinsyc) My older brother on the other hand took 4 years of commerce at UBC, worked 3 years as a loans officer at the bank of montreal, got pissed off with his job and is now taking what I took at BCIT. I enjoyed school so much, when I was there I had a job in computer resources, I had classes 6-8 hours a day, worked 12 hours a week, and stayed at school until at least midnight doing projects. Usually I ended up sleeping at school because going home was a waste of time. I landed the first job I asked for at a higher salary than I asked for, and every single person from my class got exactly what they wanted. Just the flip side to school being a bitch...
It could be a religious thing.
I never did like high school, and I had to use Macs in highschool... Maybe that's why I dont mind IBM PPC running AIX but I dont like Mac PPC running MacOS?
I never associated windows, linux, solaris, or bsd with school so I use them. I used macs at school and I vowed never to use them again.
NV ram - works on my ATI video card, whenever I poweroff after a game freezes, just before windows starts up again I have about .75 seconds where I can see the frozen frame of my game.
And that's with cutting the power from the PS (closer and faster than the main soft power button), so NV seems like it'd do the job.
One of the original Unix guys wrote a compiler that would compile a backdoor into the login program. It would also compile the ability to enter a backdoor into other compilers when they were compiled from source - the backdoor only existed in source format for the first compile - after that it resided in the binary executables only. I wish I could find the link for you, but I cant. I think the US Gov't might want to hire his services right now....
I think I would trust a 6 month old piece of software if the OpenBSD group put their stamp of approval on it. (with a little testing of course)
Actually, when talking about bits it is base 10 counting - so a megabit per second is actually 1000000 bits per second (it is based on Time not on registers and memory addresses so there's no need to use base 2)
You're the kind of jackass who calls me saying your not getting good speed because your 100Mbps direct ethernet connection is only getting 2MBps of data throughput, cause you forgot to calculate each layer's overhead value.
You want such a device - look a the previously posted `3" linux box' - cerfcube from intrinsyc (www.intrinsyc.com)
Some of my old schoolmates work for Intrinsyc and they are working on getting a completely self programmable (OS uploading via serial port to flash rom) home router running linux.
Maybe a bit more than $200 (CDN that is) but I'm first in line when they get released.
I think we canadians are just fed up with people making fun of our military. Now someone's done it. They've gone and taken the gun and started a war.
You hear comedians talking about it all the time on Just for Laughs, well now it's happened.
I just hope that no one realizes that when we say we spent billions on R&D for our new B-Double-A's that it actually stands for Bow And Arrow.
I realize the seriousness of what's been going on, and my sorrow and prayers go out for those in need, but I do think it necessary to be light-hearted and to find ways to laugh at life and to keep moving on.
I disagree with arming all flight staff. Not everyone likes to be gun-toting and power hungry, and your average man could easily out-muscle your average flight attendant from behind before she could grab the gun.
As for better protecting the cockpit, I agree. Maybe something more than a cloth curtain or particle board door is in order, how about someting like steel with a keyless deadbolt? Maybe a firearm in a lockbox in the cockpit? Something that can actually keep people out.
Do you think that restricting the exportation of encryption algorithms, and the number of bits used would have prevented such an attack? Do you think that Americans are the only ones who know how to create and use encryption unless they give others the tools to use it?
I dont think encryption use or funding for/against it is a reasonable factor against those 50,000 lives.
Now he had some pretty good games...
I dont remember any violence in chopping down a tree to climb down and get eaten by chiggers, or grabbing a statue of a blue ox and saying bunyon.
Just going for variety here...
Nuthin too scary - you do it once and it's done. It's not like going to find real player or adobe, it auto-updates the JVM.
I didnt even realize until you guys mentioned it that that is what happened while I was playing with XP RC1
My team decided to take some of the stuff we learned in our graphics class and create a network renderer (it really sucked but it worked). We used OpenGL extensions available for java, and we used Sun's JRE 1.2.2 (I think) on both windows and Red Hat 6.something.
We were able to write 1 copy of each source file, compile it once only to a class file and used the _exact_ _same_ class files (shared over SMB) to run on both windows (NT4) and linux at the same time. I would consider that to be one example of WORA.
Keep in mind I dont consider myself a java guru or even an up-to-date developer, just one example of some (almost) useful application that worked WORAlly.
If I remember my Business Law in Canada course they shoved down my throat while I was taking data communications, the only thing you automatically get is (c) copyright. Everything else has to be registered. Now if someone else tries to register something, and you can prove that you had it first, you can retroactively register ie. say that they cant register because it was your first and your registering now. But I also ANAL... I do remember asking the diff between TM and R and my teacher told me it's just preference, whichever you want to put...
And I'm not talking about any of that ergonomic footrests and back placements and keyboards. My workplace is a lazy boy chair, my 19" monitor at 800x600 propped up on a a few boards laid accross two end tables cordless keyboard in the lap, cordless mouse on a book on the armrest of the lazy boy. Great not only for the back, but also prevents unsightly keyboard marks on the face when you fall asleep working on that project for 72 hours straight :)
Also great for gaming... except I still need to find a way to get a steering wheel onto my lap and pedals on the footrest of the chair for driving games.
I thought it was etidor?
I think I should use lead paint, and lead glaze on my windows and I should be safe. The sniffer would then have to be in my room...
Not all sysadmins are active code developers. Although I started computers with a coding background and later moved to sysadmin - most people I work with were sysadmins from the start and some are learning to code on the side. Maybe this guy can code, maybe he can't. From my experience, people who like coding on sparc prefer solaris, but maybe someone who's good at coding for x86 might want to learn to port to sparc and would be of better use...
with free binary licenses for Sol8 why would tru sparc fans not use that over Linux? If linux distro's get that same mindset they might as well focus their efforts in a larger market. I dont agree w/ this but it's just what I think
I get paid based on 37.5 hr/wk. (7.5/day) I'm at work from roughly 8-3, so 7 hours/day, but of that I spend maybe an hour sifting through email, reading backup notifications etc. Sometimes when I feel like it I sift through our scripts and do some tweaking. On average I WORK about 10 hours. But when it gets busy, or something breaks, I can finish it/fix it in record time so I guess that makes up for it, oh, and I dont usually charge the OT when I get paged off hours.