Flying while "ethnic" huh? Well, I can't say that I have (not liable to change, either!). I've flown with "ethnic" friends before and it went off fairly well.. I'm not sure I've heard stories of "ethnic" people being hassled in the security line either. I have spent a good bit of time on several flights studying up on Persian, and I emerged unscathed;-) I'll ask some friends their opinions though.
As for being shiftly looking--I don't really know what that entails. This is slashdot however, so you might infer something from that;-)
I guess you've probably had problems with all of the above? I mean, I assume that's why you'd bring them up?
The way the boarding pass seems to work is...you get it authorized by a security person while you are in line (this is when they sign it). As you go from unsecure to secure, you have to show your pass again (I've never had to show ID again). Not the best system, no, but not too annoying either...
I've flown in and out of Midway a lot, and always had good experiences there. My one experience with ohare was not as fun--mostly due to having to run across 30 minutes of airplane to BARELY make a flight.. but anyway!
Don't mean to be a smartass but...why don't you pack better? You say you travel a lot, so you know the routine. Pack your stuff in checked luggage. Router etc in carryon? Bubblewrap in stowaaway! Do you REALLY need makeups, mascara etc for a 2 hour / whatever plane trip? What other liquids/gels do you need? More than can fit in a small ziptop bag?? do you REALLY need to wear a sweater when a jacket would do? (1 time having to unsweater in Chicago was enough for me..) do you REALLY have to pack your stuff so tightly that you can't repack it or show anything to the inspectors? You know what you're up against, deal with it! If you've got to repack it--get out of the way!! No one wants to wait for you to do that while everyone else just sits they're stalled up, I'd be pissed too if I was behind you in line and it was taking that long. Pissed people get mad at--as you're sure to know--the inspectors. So, if you're making a hassle for them, other people are getting mad at THEM.
I basically agree with you--it's not a lot of fun! But as you've proven in your post, you know EXACTLY what you're going to run into, so there's no reason you can't modify your luggage+behavior to get through with no problem.
Also, FWIW, i always leave my cellphone, wallet, charger, (and in the past ipod, Nintendo DS, etc) in my carryon as it goes through the machine, and it's never been stopped.
When I read comments like this, I wonder what most people are doing??
I don't fly a huge amount--in 2006-2007 so far I've flown maybe 5-6 roudtrips. I have absolutely no doubt that there are some TSA people who are jerks. But in all my flying I don't think I've ever run into a one of them who wanted to "fuck up my day" or that I would "describe as a petty tyrant"
You know, I don't get what's so onerous about the whole thing either.. Show my boarding pass (printed at home often)+ID to get it initialed. I take off my shoes, my jacket, put them on the belt. Put my laptop, keys, etc in a crate. Put my carryon bag on the rollers. Walk through. Done. *ONCE* in the past 5 years (maybe 2001, I forget) I was pulled aside and my bag was swabbed for explosives/chemicals/whatever on an international flight. It took all of 30 seconds. Once I didn't take off my shoes (stupidly) and they had metal that triggered the detectors. They pulled me over, I apologized for forgetting about my shoes, they wanded me, and that was it. Took like 2 minutes, total.
Seriously, have you really had that bad experiences? Where are these occurring / what's happening?
My god you're right, a frugal lobbyist (evil, of course) who isn't happy when their kid spends money extravagantly? there's something horrifyingly wrong there all right.
I don't get it. Myspace has a lot of users. A lot of obsessed users. People that presumably enjoy looking at myspace pages.
If a lot of people like something, what's the problem? Nobody says YOU have to look at myspace pages, or that YOU have to make your myspace page with an insane background+blaring music... but if other people like it, what's the problem?
"How annoying it is" -- well that's your opinion -- probably not shared by the creators!. How it eats bandwidth? Ok, so if you don't do anything that "eats bandwidth" -- no downloading of movies, mp3s, etc? No skype? No video gaming? Because that eats it too--the only difference I can tell is that you approve of your usage, and not of theirs. Dialup users? Effectively, who cares? If they think its cool and their friends / whoever don't care, again, what is the problem?
Always depends on bugs? Well, that's sometimes true, but you make it sound like a piece of cake to eliminate bugs. We've had computers around for a good number of years now, and that hasn't happened yet! Even a project like OpenBSD has had several SEVERE flaws over its lifespan in the core software--not counting flaws in typical addon software. (This is not meant to attack OpenBSD because I think frankly it's the best we've got! I use it on my firewall..)
Not to mention, an "attack" can be so much more than those things. Trojans. Physical security breaches. Social engineering.
Look, if this stuff was easy, then there would be no one hack attacks, no ddos attacks, etc, EVER. There clearly are, so it's clearly not easy.
Ah yes, posts from 2002 and 2003...let's see, the current year is...2007?...last time I checked:-P My powerbook is right now about 3 years old (that would be since 2004) and it's been my main computer since then. I DO still use XP at work, and my FreeBSD desktop CAN--should the need arise--dualboot. you got me there!! I'm crazy and rabid!
p.s. if you were curious, my powerbook uptime is 16 days at the moment, and a freebsd server i manage is currently at 212 days! w0000!111!1one!11 -- bragging (sarcasm in case it wasn't obvious..;)
You know--you've done background searches on me, analyzed past posts, etc--who in this situation TRULY looks rabid?
Hey, I'm posting this from my Powerbook. Though I could have posted it from my FreeBSD computer as well. No microsoft here, so I'm afraid I'm not one of those rabid MS evangelists you seem worried about.
The damage done by this cult is beyond that done by most religious cults by far, and second only to Communism in modern times. Couldn't agree more--just the other day in fact, my computer jumped up and strangled my sister--how much longer are we going to put up with this yolk of oppression? How many must die?!!
The more zealous members have an intolerance found only in those who have confused their faith for science. Simply mentioning alternatives in front of them is unpleasant enough to enrage them and torrents of abuse soon follow. They demand that people modify their morals to accommodate their obsolete business and software development models, which would otherwise perish. Yes, this too. The last time I mentioned linux in public an angry mob of microsoft enthusiasts formed and chased me out of town.. these people are utterly astonishing.
Oh, and kudos on thinking up "winDOS" and "M$" -- BRILLIANT!! Man, that really shows those bastards whos boss!
Wow, in one breath you're complaining about bad acting and bad scripting, and then you bring out Babylon 5 as an exemplar?!
Please, I overall enjoyed B5, but--IMHO--seasons 1+5 were awful.. and the entire series had HORRIBLE dialogue and acting! The plot etc was badass, but I still *shudder* thinking of some of the acting+humor moments etc.
I would've liked the wii to play DVDs so I could get rid of a peripheral that doesn't sit plugged in and unused 99% of the time, and i don't have to switch input cables (and so i can get rid of another controller that just is going to get lost!)
there are tons of solutions but yeah, it's the laziness factor.
ok, ok, you didnt.. my bad... but what's with the cars? Haha, to be honest I have no idea... I think I lost my train of thought. (pulled an all nighter at work, and am tired!)
Oh actually I meant "scars"
I think it's a funny stereotype that Americans stereotype.
you replied by saying the US did ~everything, the europeans did almost nothing and you asked us to admit that and be more grateful... sorry, not the case... you did your part, we did ours and none of the parts is entitled to ask for gratitude. Maybe you are thinking I posted something other than what I did... because I really did NOT say europeans did almost nothing, and I never asked anyone to "be more grateful"... I think the closest thing was "nice to see that our contributions are remembered"
as i said in another answer, you and your family probably "experienced" the WWs and the EU through newspapers and radio.. my family experienced them in their own courtyard... it's not the same! I full understand that, and as I said in an earlier post, my grandfather fought in Europe. It was an experience that he rarely if ever talked about for the rest of his life. I'm in no way saying his and his family and friends' sacrifice was in any way more / better / whatever than anyone else's. My ONLY point was that Americans DID help out--a lot even!--in WW2 and post-war Europe.
I'm NOT saying it was purely altruistic. I'm NOT saying we did it all. I'm NOT saying Europeans did nothing. I'm NOT saying anything about the cars--and indeed, I never said any of those things! not at all!
If *I'm* sick of something, it's people stereotyping americans!!
Typical 400k house? I wish... I think it's more like 200k nationwide.
It makes me understand why everyone from the north is moving south, after spending a few years north of the masondixon and seeing how expensive everything is. actually, I'm in DC area now and it's even worse. 400k for a 1bdroom townhouse? no thank you.
same as conservatively speaking, europe+ussr lost way over 20,000,000 people in ww2.. that's quite a bit more, mind you... and therefore, in regard to this particular argument, please shut up. Ouch, I hope I didn't offend you--not my intention.. I never said once anywhere that the US made the BIGGEST sacrifice or anything that could possibly be misconstrued that way. I said that losing 200k people isn't nothing--that ain't peanuts. I don't see why my saying that would make you aggressively tell me to shut up?
the US did not come here because you loved europeans or to help us.. you people came here to stop Hitler before he reached Your border... incidentally that was good for us too, so thanks for that... but please stop asking for anything more than a "thanks". I never wrote a single thing about why we went into WW2. Why are you so mad at me? You're reading all these things into my post that are just not there. Where did I _ask_ for anything?
the US helped rebuilding Europe not because you loved europeans, but to use us as a shield between you and the Ussr... and that job we did Together... thanks.. but again, stop asking for anything more than a "thanks". See my previous point again. Me personally--I'm a utilitarian--if good is done, I don't really care about the reasons. Reasons are complicated things. I'm not asking for anything.
and now that we are EVEN... please stop digging out 70 years old events, please stop asking for undeserved returns, please stop calling us "ungrateful"... and pretty please, go mind your own business!... and if you do that, many thanks again! I didn't dig up anything. I simply replied to a person claiming that the US played no role in keeping peace in Europe. That's it. I never once claimed we did anything for purely altruistic reasons, and I never once "asked" for anything.
As a citizen of one of the eastern european countries that fought on your side, but you SOLD it to the Ussr for YOUR OWN good and interest, i have another message for the US - Fuck You!... once for each day in 50 years of communism... and after those 50 years, another "thanks" for helping repair your wrongdoings in the end. So despite all of your above ranting--I think it's safe to call what you said earlier ranting--all of the sudden the fact that Eastern Europe fell under communist hands is the US's fault. Not western Europe. Not Russia. Not anybody except the US? You lost me..
i hope i was clear enough.. no trolling or flaming intended, just the simple truth... or more precisely, my version of "the truth". I'm very sorry if I offended you, that was never my intention. I think if you go read the thread I posted in, you'll see where I was coming from. I didn't _ask_ for anything, and I never claimed anything about reasons. I was merely talking about events that happened. I'm not going to cast any moral judgements on those events, and that was not the point of the thread.
I really don't get your anger here, but I hope I didn't make you too mad.
Jeeez. I drove a 98 Ford Explorer v6 for a couple of years and kept a spreadsheet of my mileage. My high mpg was 22.5 mpg, my low was around 14 (when the transmission was dying). overall average was something like 20.75 mpg.
I've seen gotten a smaller car, less powerful engine, and get around 21.5mpg. Don't really get it..
I didn't talk about the US contributions during WW2 (which are also far smaller than Americans like to think). Your revisionism is peeping through again. Conservatively speaking, the US lost 200,000 people in Europe. My grandfather fought in Europe. I think it's entirely fair to say that WW2 would not have ended as it did had the US not entered the European front. But I guess that doesn't really matter anymore.. The Hitler/Stalin reference was referring to who would most likely had controlled most of Europe had things turned out differently..
The rise of the US as a superpower had no impact on peace in Europe, unless you count conflict with Russia as part of a European conflict. That sounds to me like you're saying the economic power of the US had no impact on WW2. Had no impact on rebuilding post-war Europe. Had no impact on the formation of NATO. Had no impact on stopping the spread of Russia (which you say doesn't count for some reason--I think the former East Germans might disagree with you..). Had no part on supporting Europe militarily when the European militaries were depleted and worn out. Had no part in the keeping of the peace..
In addition, you may not remember it, but it was less than 20 years ago that the Soviet Union included parts of Western Europe--there wasn't even a unified Germany. This is hard to fathom now, but not 20 years ago a large portion of the EU was much less accessible than it is now. Certainly during the last 50 years there were times when western Europe's relations with the Soviets was.. less than good. Berlin WAS a split city until 17 years ago! I don't know about you, but that's an amazingly hard image to reconcile with the images of Europe today. Anyway, my point is merely that the US played a large role in Europe from WW2 for many years. The price tag was in the hundreds of thousands of lives, and billions of dollars. Hell, US superpower had nothing to do with European peace? Heard anything about the Balkans? The US had to send troops there recently (nato)... so I guess, we're STILL helping out. Actually that's an interesting point--I have a number of Bosnian friends--I lived in an area where a very large number of Bosnian refugees were settled--and I've RARELY met anyone as pro-American and pro-American military. Especially for Europeans (those from the Balkans DO count as Europeans, right?). One of my friends lived in Sarajevo through most of the war..has some amazing stories and pictures.. pretty horrifying.
I know anti-Americanism is the fashionable thing now, but come on, I just can't imagine why you would try to minimize hundreds of thousands of dead.. I just don't know what the motivation for that is.
(incidentally, I'm not disputing the fact that the precursor France, Germany, Benelux, Italy union was intended to peace, though I would dispute that it was the biggest factor, or even a big one. Something about millions and millions of people dying tends to kinda suck the desire to fight from people.. it helps when there are soldiers around keeping the peace too !!)
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It's purely for purposes of party primaries. Not all states have closed primaries though, so it's not a universal practice. Some states--I'm thinking of Vermont off the top of my head, and Connecticut--have a very large portion of the population registered as independent.
As I think I and others have typed as well, your stereotyping of the US isn't exactly fair, ESPECIALLY when you view state/national level like you are observing in Canada.
There are a lot of northeastern "blue states" with Republican governors (well, less now, after 2006 elections..) and a lot of southern "red states" with Democrat governors.
I'm not surehow state governments break down vs the federal overall. Would be interesting to compare.
I know personall speaking I'm far more likely to vote for a Democrat the more local it gets.
Well, I would tend to agree... but who says if you vote for them you don't know what a conservative is? I would say Bush isn't a conservative either, that doesn't mean a lot of conservatives didn't vote for him.
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Flying while "ethnic" huh? Well, I can't say that I have (not liable to change, either!). I've flown with "ethnic" friends before and it went off fairly well.. I'm not sure I've heard stories of "ethnic" people being hassled in the security line either. I have spent a good bit of time on several flights studying up on Persian, and I emerged unscathed ;-) I'll ask some friends their opinions though.
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As for being shiftly looking--I don't really know what that entails. This is slashdot however, so you might infer something from that
I guess you've probably had problems with all of the above? I mean, I assume that's why you'd bring them up?
That sounds truly painful...
The way the boarding pass seems to work is...you get it authorized by a security person while you are in line (this is when they sign it). As you go from unsecure to secure, you have to show your pass again (I've never had to show ID again). Not the best system, no, but not too annoying either...
I've flown in and out of Midway a lot, and always had good experiences there. My one experience with ohare was not as fun--mostly due to having to run across 30 minutes of airplane to BARELY make a flight.. but anyway!
Don't mean to be a smartass but...why don't you pack better? You say you travel a lot, so you know the routine. Pack your stuff in checked luggage. Router etc in carryon? Bubblewrap in stowaaway! Do you REALLY need makeups, mascara etc for a 2 hour / whatever plane trip? What other liquids/gels do you need? More than can fit in a small ziptop bag?? do you REALLY need to wear a sweater when a jacket would do? (1 time having to unsweater in Chicago was enough for me..) do you REALLY have to pack your stuff so tightly that you can't repack it or show anything to the inspectors? You know what you're up against, deal with it! If you've got to repack it--get out of the way!! No one wants to wait for you to do that while everyone else just sits they're stalled up, I'd be pissed too if I was behind you in line and it was taking that long. Pissed people get mad at--as you're sure to know--the inspectors. So, if you're making a hassle for them, other people are getting mad at THEM.
I basically agree with you--it's not a lot of fun! But as you've proven in your post, you know EXACTLY what you're going to run into, so there's no reason you can't modify your luggage+behavior to get through with no problem.
Also, FWIW, i always leave my cellphone, wallet, charger, (and in the past ipod, Nintendo DS, etc) in my carryon as it goes through the machine, and it's never been stopped.
When I read comments like this, I wonder what most people are doing??
I don't fly a huge amount--in 2006-2007 so far I've flown maybe 5-6 roudtrips. I have absolutely no doubt that there are some TSA people who are jerks. But in all my flying I don't think I've ever run into a one of them who wanted to "fuck up my day" or that I would "describe as a petty tyrant"
You know, I don't get what's so onerous about the whole thing either.. Show my boarding pass (printed at home often)+ID to get it initialed. I take off my shoes, my jacket, put them on the belt. Put my laptop, keys, etc in a crate. Put my carryon bag on the rollers. Walk through. Done. *ONCE* in the past 5 years (maybe 2001, I forget) I was pulled aside and my bag was swabbed for explosives/chemicals/whatever on an international flight. It took all of 30 seconds. Once I didn't take off my shoes (stupidly) and they had metal that triggered the detectors. They pulled me over, I apologized for forgetting about my shoes, they wanded me, and that was it. Took like 2 minutes, total.
Seriously, have you really had that bad experiences? Where are these occurring / what's happening?
My god you're right, a frugal lobbyist (evil, of course) who isn't happy when their kid spends money extravagantly? there's something horrifyingly wrong there all right.
I don't get it. Myspace has a lot of users. A lot of obsessed users. People that presumably enjoy looking at myspace pages.
If a lot of people like something, what's the problem? Nobody says YOU have to look at myspace pages, or that YOU have to make your myspace page with an insane background+blaring music... but if other people like it, what's the problem?
"How annoying it is" -- well that's your opinion -- probably not shared by the creators!. How it eats bandwidth? Ok, so if you don't do anything that "eats bandwidth" -- no downloading of movies, mp3s, etc? No skype? No video gaming? Because that eats it too--the only difference I can tell is that you approve of your usage, and not of theirs. Dialup users? Effectively, who cares? If they think its cool and their friends / whoever don't care, again, what is the problem?
Wow, that's an incredibly naive point of view.
Always depends on bugs? Well, that's sometimes true, but you make it sound like a piece of cake to eliminate bugs. We've had computers around for a good number of years now, and that hasn't happened yet! Even a project like OpenBSD has had several SEVERE flaws over its lifespan in the core software--not counting flaws in typical addon software. (This is not meant to attack OpenBSD because I think frankly it's the best we've got! I use it on my firewall..)
Not to mention, an "attack" can be so much more than those things. Trojans. Physical security breaches. Social engineering.
Look, if this stuff was easy, then there would be no one hack attacks, no ddos attacks, etc, EVER. There clearly are, so it's clearly not easy.
Yeah.. oops :-P
Ah yes, posts from 2002 and 2003...let's see, the current year is...2007?...last time I checked :-P My powerbook is right now about 3 years old (that would be since 2004) and it's been my main computer since then. I DO still use XP at work, and my FreeBSD desktop CAN--should the need arise--dualboot. you got me there!! I'm crazy and rabid!
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Referencing a Penny Arcade comic followed by a wink emoticon is rabid to you? That's scaaaaary!! http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2002/20020722h
p.s. if you were curious, my powerbook uptime is 16 days at the moment, and a freebsd server i manage is currently at 212 days! w0000!111!1one!11 -- bragging (sarcasm in case it wasn't obvious..
You know--you've done background searches on me, analyzed past posts, etc--who in this situation TRULY looks rabid?
Hey, I'm posting this from my Powerbook. Though I could have posted it from my FreeBSD computer as well. No microsoft here, so I'm afraid I'm not one of those rabid MS evangelists you seem worried about.
:-)
The derision/sarcasm is real though
Oh, and kudos on thinking up "winDOS" and "M$" -- BRILLIANT!! Man, that really shows those bastards whos boss!
Wow, in one breath you're complaining about bad acting and bad scripting, and then you bring out Babylon 5 as an exemplar?!
Please, I overall enjoyed B5, but--IMHO--seasons 1+5 were awful.. and the entire series had HORRIBLE dialogue and acting! The plot etc was badass, but I still *shudder* thinking of some of the acting+humor moments etc.
I would've liked the wii to play DVDs so I could get rid of a peripheral that doesn't sit plugged in and unused 99% of the time, and i don't have to switch input cables (and so i can get rid of another controller that just is going to get lost!)
there are tons of solutions but yeah, it's the laziness factor.
Oh actually I meant "scars"
I think it's a funny stereotype that Americans stereotype.
I'm NOT saying it was purely altruistic. I'm NOT saying we did it all. I'm NOT saying Europeans did nothing. I'm NOT saying anything about the cars--and indeed, I never said any of those things! not at all!
If *I'm* sick of something, it's people stereotyping americans!!
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Typical 400k house? I wish... I think it's more like 200k nationwide.
It makes me understand why everyone from the north is moving south, after spending a few years north of the masondixon and seeing how expensive everything is. actually, I'm in DC area now and it's even worse. 400k for a 1bdroom townhouse? no thank you.
I really don't get your anger here, but I hope I didn't make you too mad.
Jeeez. I drove a 98 Ford Explorer v6 for a couple of years and kept a spreadsheet of my mileage. My high mpg was 22.5 mpg, my low was around 14 (when the transmission was dying). overall average was something like 20.75 mpg.
I've seen gotten a smaller car, less powerful engine, and get around 21.5mpg. Don't really get it..
In addition, you may not remember it, but it was less than 20 years ago that the Soviet Union included parts of Western Europe--there wasn't even a unified Germany. This is hard to fathom now, but not 20 years ago a large portion of the EU was much less accessible than it is now. Certainly during the last 50 years there were times when western Europe's relations with the Soviets was
I know anti-Americanism is the fashionable thing now, but come on, I just can't imagine why you would try to minimize hundreds of thousands of dead.. I just don't know what the motivation for that is.
(incidentally, I'm not disputing the fact that the precursor France, Germany, Benelux, Italy union was intended to peace, though I would dispute that it was the biggest factor, or even a big one. Something about millions and millions of people dying tends to kinda suck the desire to fight from people.. it helps when there are soldiers around keeping the peace too !!)
Wow, talk about historical revisionism... Nice to see that America's contributions to Europe during and after WW2 are remembered...
But hell, I guess to you either Hitler or Stalin would have been preferrable to having US troops in Europe, ever?
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It's purely for purposes of party primaries. Not all states have closed primaries though, so it's not a universal practice. Some states--I'm thinking of Vermont off the top of my head, and Connecticut--have a very large portion of the population registered as independent.
As I think I and others have typed as well, your stereotyping of the US isn't exactly fair, ESPECIALLY when you view state/national level like you are observing in Canada.
That's probably a good point...
There are a lot of northeastern "blue states" with Republican governors (well, less now, after 2006 elections..) and a lot of southern "red states" with Democrat governors.
I'm not surehow state governments break down vs the federal overall. Would be interesting to compare.
I know personall speaking I'm far more likely to vote for a Democrat the more local it gets.
I guess all politics really is local.
Well, I would tend to agree... but who says if you vote for them you don't know what a conservative is? I would say Bush isn't a conservative either, that doesn't mean a lot of conservatives didn't vote for him.