DDOSing SCO's web site only prevents the general public and groklaw.net from access to their ongoing press releases and Darl's bio -- I mean -- does www.sco.com get traffic for any/other/ reason? People checking for Openserver upgrades and enhancements?? The latest download of Skunkware?? A fresh copy of the $699. Linux Licensing form???
Yeh they can split up the office quick as you please if it means sales to another country or big account, but when the DOJ says to break up components all we hear is how it's an integrated platform designed to have office explorer and the oS run together.
Freeze! Cincinatti Police Officers. Now take your hands off the keyboard and step away from the PC. You are under arrest under the provisions of the DMCA, the Patriot Act, all legislation outlawing decss and hardware reverse engineering.
Check out the last page of the February Linux Journal, Jim Ready, the CEO of Montavista has a very nicely written piece on the crux of the SCO issue, and ends up with something like... "So McBride, Boies, et al, go ahead, continue gunning for Linux and open source. Ready. Aim. Shoot yourself in the foot, then, please hobble out of the way, some of us are trying to do business"..
I don't know anyone taking SCO seriously for months now..
Of course SCO is manipulating the market, and some already have made money or will.
But for those waiting for the big payoff, those who've bought SCOX and are just waiting for the promised land.. when the judgment day comes... watch the stock go down the toilet in a matter of hours if not seconds.
Nobody will be able to sell it because nobody will buy it.
No we're not forgetting anything, Linux overall, is a good thing. Like PJ says, if there's any infraction in the Linux 2.4 source code, it'll be fixed instantly and the world will move on.
Five years from now we'll hardly remember anything about SCO, other than some unscrupulous people and a temporary barratry business model which took a couple of years to be proven wrong.
Sorry, guess I was overly concerned about your well being.
I was worried, that perhaps someday, should you buy a DVD that refuses to play in your computer because of DRM restrictions coming from your BIOS, you might be hurt and upset, and perhaps even feel betrayed by those Mega Corporations you love so much today... but hell, I won't worry. You and the rest of your white knuckle Microsoft-Loving, Dukes-of-Hazard-Rerun-Watching pedants will be grabbing your ankles so tight that you won't ever feel the impact.
Do remember to come up for air every now and again.
A PC BIOS redesign which, unlike what we have today, might be able to control what products will operate with it (for example Microsoft or Intel products only), and might control what media and content can be used on the machine in question, would be a giant step toward removing consumer rights in these areas, and maximizing corporate control on the use of hardware, content, possibly stepping on some fair use rights in the process.
It doesn't do _anything_ with consumer rights..
It does, and it will.
Intel is much more a Microsoft supporter than a Linux supporter. That truth explains why they are crafting the EFI spec with MS not RedHat, or openbios.org.
numbskull. That just makes your incorrect opinion all the more questionable.
That is, technologists will figure out technical problems without legislative intervention. As in the Verisign com/net wildcard fiasco.
But the Internet regulatory issues will not take care of themselves.
The regulatory issues are what require our attention most, so if you're a voter, write your representatives whenever you can help further their understanding -- for issues on DRM, SPAM legislation, email and internet access taxation, ISP customer privacy issues etc. Support the EFF - visiting their pages will give you ideas - they make it easy through their Action Center to contact your elected representatives, and educate visitors on the fine points of the issues at hand.
Look at the pharmaceutical industry and its utter control of America's lawmaking process -- where ever there's a profit to be made you'll see some heavy lobbying done by corporations.
Since TCSH is truely free, it is more desirerable on a philisophical basis.
I didn't realize that because I don't use tcsh at all but thanks for pointing out the licensing thing here. And agreed - the GPL is less desirable - really the BSD license is the way to go and I'll continue using it in the future (tropism)
Does tcsh/csh have more "interactive" features than bourne? On the command line? I've never gotten this... what, for example? Thanks
All joking aside, and with all due respect to you, cmd.exe is an utter and complete clumsy piece of shit. And it has been in every incarnation since command.com on DOS.
In bash and some (most?) sh variants, and ksh, and I believe the C shell families, which have substitution and string handling ability, you can do things like:
foo=sharkattack echo ${foo/ark/---}
or
for file in $(ls -1 *.pls); do
mv $file $(echo ${file%%.pls}); done
So, with a little creativity, and not all that much effort, you can do some pretty high level operations in the OS without touching perl or C, including having some getops functionality, and long variables, etc.
IF only these shells could handle arrays like perl.
When bash is ultimately so much more feature ridden than tcsh/ksh. Ok, just my observation/opinion.
But since bash is the default shell in Linux, and there are probably more linux systems than any other unix-like platform on planet earth, I vote that bash become earth's default shell.
Windows' default shell can probably be considered either Symantec or McAfee Anti Virus.
Precisely - it's DRM, and ultimate control of consumers and the market. Now is a great time to start switching away from the Intel PC platform to PPC based products and what have you. And I certainly hope AMD sees the benefit of staying open and not participating in this BS. Same with IBM as they now manufacture the CPUs for G5 and have lots to say (I imagine) about the platform architecture.
This whole initiative will fail if enough intelligent consumers and corporate types don't buy into it. However I fear Apple will join the Intel/MS mindset - remember they've got their own little DRM implementation going...
You call those tests? This dude is an amateur, not a benchmarker. That pricing thing is bullshit - the Opteron build was farmed out to someone who overpriced it by over 1000 bucks.
Do you know anyone who wouldn't build their own dual Opteron?
Slashdot Mirror
Put that coffee down. Coffee is for hackers only.
DDOSing SCO's web site only prevents the general public and groklaw.net from access to their ongoing press releases and Darl's bio -- I mean -- does www.sco.com get traffic for any /other/ reason? People checking for Openserver upgrades and enhancements?? The latest download of Skunkware?? A fresh copy of the $699. Linux Licensing form???
Yeh they can split up the office quick as you please if it means sales to another country or big account, but when the DOJ says to break up components all we hear is how it's an integrated platform designed to have office explorer and the oS run together.
Freeze! Cincinatti Police Officers. Now take your hands off the keyboard and step away from the PC. You are under arrest under the provisions of the DMCA, the Patriot Act, all legislation outlawing decss and hardware reverse engineering.
Check out the last page of the February Linux Journal, Jim Ready, the CEO of Montavista has a very nicely written piece on the crux of the SCO issue, and ends up with something like... "So McBride, Boies, et al, go ahead, continue gunning for Linux and open source. Ready. Aim. Shoot yourself in the foot, then, please hobble out of the way, some of us are trying to do business"..
I don't know anyone taking SCO seriously for months now..
Of course SCO is manipulating the market, and some already have made money or will.
... watch the stock go down the toilet in a matter of hours if not seconds.
But for those waiting for the big payoff, those who've bought SCOX and are just waiting for the promised land.. when the judgment day comes
Nobody will be able to sell it because nobody will buy it.
No we're not forgetting anything, Linux overall, is a good thing. Like PJ says, if there's any infraction in the Linux 2.4 source code, it'll be fixed instantly and the world will move on.
Five years from now we'll hardly remember anything about SCO, other than some unscrupulous people and a temporary barratry business model which took a couple of years to be proven wrong.
about a six-pack of Diet Coke a day..
.. formaldehyde.
Check the ingredients on Diet Coke, the formalin is killing your brain cells
See you. I'll stop by your jar later.
will get your mind off the headache.
Stop whining. Get in touch with the part of your brain that doesn't want the caffeine. Show some willpower.
Sorry, guess I was overly concerned about your well being.
... but hell, I won't worry. You and the rest of your white knuckle Microsoft-Loving, Dukes-of-Hazard-Rerun-Watching pedants will be grabbing your ankles so tight that you won't ever feel the impact.
I was worried, that perhaps someday, should you buy a DVD that refuses to play in your computer because of DRM restrictions coming from your BIOS, you might be hurt and upset, and perhaps even feel betrayed by those Mega Corporations you love so much today
Do remember to come up for air every now and again.
For new servers.
They are down now.
A PC BIOS redesign which, unlike what we have today, might be able to control what products will operate with it (for example Microsoft or Intel products only), and might control what media and content can be used on the machine in question, would be a giant step toward removing consumer rights in these areas, and maximizing corporate control on the use of hardware, content, possibly stepping on some fair use rights in the process.
It doesn't do _anything_ with consumer rights..
It does, and it will.
Intel is much more a Microsoft supporter than a Linux supporter. That truth explains why they are crafting the EFI spec with MS not RedHat, or openbios.org.
numbskull.
That just makes your incorrect opinion all the more questionable.
That is, technologists will figure out technical problems without legislative intervention. As in the Verisign com/net wildcard fiasco.
But the Internet regulatory issues will not take care of themselves.
The regulatory issues are what require our attention most, so if you're a voter, write your representatives whenever you can help further their understanding -- for issues on DRM, SPAM legislation, email and internet access taxation, ISP customer privacy issues etc. Support the EFF - visiting their pages will give you ideas - they make it easy through their Action Center to contact your elected representatives, and educate visitors on the fine points of the issues at hand.
Look at the pharmaceutical industry and its utter control of America's lawmaking process -- where ever there's a profit to be made you'll see some heavy lobbying done by corporations.
Since TCSH is truely free, it is more desirerable on a philisophical basis.
I didn't realize that because I don't use tcsh at all but thanks for pointing out the licensing thing here. And agreed - the GPL is less desirable - really the BSD license is the way to go and I'll continue using it in the future (tropism)
Does tcsh/csh have more "interactive" features than bourne? On the command line? I've never gotten this... what, for example? Thanks
Extensible Firmware Interface EFI
Worst technology introduced. MS/Intel
Replaces traditional PC BIOS and Consumer Rights simultaneously.
All joking aside, and with all due respect to you, cmd.exe is an utter and complete clumsy piece of shit. And it has been in every incarnation since command.com on DOS.
In bash and some (most?) sh variants, and ksh, and I believe the C shell families, which have substitution and string handling ability, you can do things like:
foo=sharkattack
echo ${foo/ark/---}
or
for file in $(ls -1 *.pls); do
mv $file $(echo ${file%%.pls}); done
So, with a little creativity, and not all that much effort, you can do some pretty high level operations in the OS without touching perl or C, including having some getops functionality, and long variables, etc.
IF only these shells could handle arrays like perl.
I meant that the choice of csh over bash in FreeBSD - is a mystery!
The csh/tcsh default in freebsd is a mystery.
When bash is ultimately so much more feature ridden than tcsh/ksh. Ok, just my observation/opinion.
But since bash is the default shell in Linux, and there are probably more linux systems than any other unix-like platform on planet earth, I vote that bash become earth's default shell.
Windows' default shell can probably be considered either Symantec or McAfee Anti Virus.
Then urls would look like:
tbl://patentattorneys.com/
Fire, The Wheel, The Industrial Age, Xanadu, The Information Age, and finally, in 2004, the Brushed Metal Age.
Precisely - it's DRM, and ultimate control of consumers and the market. Now is a great time to start switching away from the Intel PC platform to PPC based products and what have you. And I certainly hope AMD sees the benefit of staying open and not participating in this BS. Same with IBM as they now manufacture the CPUs for G5 and have lots to say (I imagine) about the platform architecture.
...
This whole initiative will fail if enough intelligent consumers and corporate types don't buy into it. However I fear Apple will join the Intel/MS mindset - remember they've got their own little DRM implementation going
Forget the servers and the 20 grand.
Didn't you read the last Slashdot article on information overload? We need less wikis, not more wikis.
Heck, I was doing that in my early twenties with Pabst Blue Ribbon tallboys, orange microdots and Black Beauties.
Well, it's finally time to talk BULLSHIT.
You call those tests? This dude is an amateur, not a benchmarker. That pricing thing is bullshit - the Opteron build was farmed out to someone who overpriced it by over 1000 bucks.
Do you know anyone who wouldn't build their own dual Opteron?
Mini iPod 99. .99
Battery 99.
Song
Buying only at concerts limits you quite a bit unfortunately.
I hope more artists sell direct, or small record companies begin to sell direct.
Such as
www.ishq.org
www.interchill.com
But the artists have to come to those labels, and get off the big RIAA affiliated music machines. A new distribution machine must emerge.