We make and import products globally. TUV, CSA, UL, ETL, Matlabs, etc. are all from different companies and countries and all accepted in many different countries.
As a general rule, CSA (Canada) is likely the strictest standard by a small margin, so we just import stuff into the US with CSA (or TUV out of Germany), which every place in the US accepts. Oh, and I am talking about comsumer goods that pull up to 50 amps at 230VAC, not some 600 milliamp wallwart transformer.
The difference in standards from one country to another are generally trivial, and most equipment is made to be complient with ALL standards, because it is easier and cheaper that way. This is why Sony has a 100-230V 50/60hz transformer. That covers every damn country in the world. Every. Single. One.
Now, Sony might not LABEL the product with the correct stamp, but they do this to prevent it from being imported. It is still the same product, has been tested to meet the same standards and is fully safe.
Yea, but image a beowulf of those. You could shave your face, your ass, your balls, your back and your legs in half a second. Put a small motor and a AAA in the thing, make it look like a 1950s lawn mower. You can shave on the way to work, talk on your cell phone AND drink that mocha latte at the same time. Fuck, you could shave a rottweiler with that bad boy and he wouldn't know what hit him till he was balder than a baby's ass.
(Sorry, got caught up in the Onion article, and I *DO* work in marketing for a living...)
Zapp Brannigan: You see, Killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them, until they reached their limit and shut down.
Bender: A grim day for robot-kind. Ah, but we can always build more killbots.
Quick, before someone sees me! Go to my secret website and type LOGIN. Then use my login, Pharmboy. My password is "portal" (without the quotes). At the prompt, type "thecakeisalie" at the prompt without the quotes to activate the hidden camera inside Microsoft! The cake is a lie and this proves it!!!1!
People bitch about how a company is growing larger and more powerful (Walmart, McD's) but it is to simple to defeat them if that is really important.
Don't give them your money.
That's the beauty of capitalism, it is 100% democratic and you vote with your dollars. Even when a company has a monopoly (MS), you can choose something else (Linux).
I don't use the "new discussion system" and I still get the "moderate" button. Maybe reverting back to the old system when you moderate would help. The new system is more annoying than useful anyway.
I was hoping someone would bring up Mel Tellis. While he wasn't able to overcome the stuttering, we WAS able to keep a sense of humor about it, and allowed it to be how he was identified. Oh, and yea, he is a hell of a singer as well.
He was the first famous person that I am aware of that proved someone with speach problems can be funny and talented without hiding the speech problem.
Not really. A school is almost exactly like a business
Not exactly, as only half the kids at a school network are looking at porn and playing games, compared to 80% of employees...
But your other point, that a business is not liable for what happens on the network is incorrect. A male employee checks out porn, offense a female, the company is liable for sexual harassment. Your computers get infected and start spewing out spam, you are liable and your T1 shut down for a while. You run a server that accepts credit applications and your server gets pwned, you are liable.
If anything, a business is MORE liable because you can't blame it on a 14 year old kid.
I always thought that immortality could be used as a stealth weapon, albeit a slow one. Pretend there is a country you don't like but can't legally go to war with. For the sake of arguement, lets pretend it is France.
1. USA offers all French seniors free immortality pills. (who would want to die?) 2. French govt. checks for retirement never end, so they must raise taxes each year. 3. Young educated people can't take the taxes, they leave and come to America. 4. France is screwed because they are broke and the average citizen is 95.
I mean what do you do, raise the retirement age to "infinity minus 10"?
Oh, and it is the drug companies who create new drugs, not doctors. And they have no interest in curing a disease when it is more profitable to treat it with many drugs.
Is this practical if your local electric power company's...
I think common sense need to be inserted here. You can still contact your local power company if they advertise and ask them not to. I don't think anyone would have taken my statement as meaning you have to go buy a generator.
I didn't even say quit buying anything, or limit it to companies that have products you normally purchase. I said to tell them you were going to stop buying their products. Just as if your name is Bob, and Tampax is the advertiser, I don't think you would tell them you are going to quit buying their tampons, but you can still write or email them. Or have your wife or girlfriend do so.
So yes, it is practical if you apply a just a little common sense.
The root kit CD's were enough for me to stop buying Sony products or contributing in any way to their bottom line. Not buying Sony products has become a matter of self-defense and monetary preservation.
If you really wanted to make a dent, I would suggest writing the advertising SPONSORS of Sony related TV shows, like Jeopardy and The King of Queens and tell them you have discontinued buying their products until they quit sponsoring entertainment that Sony has ownership in. Nothing like the threat of lost revenue to get a sponsor to seek other channels for their commercials.
?That's what I get for posting my two cents worth of intellectual property.:(</em>
Don't worry, for each person who steals your ideas, they will only get 2 cents. Not worth the time unless someone creates a botnet to steal your idea enmass to spam it:
---- To: luser@slashdot.org From: bettysue@comcast.net
Lo0king f0r a w ay to mak e more mone y?
Triy pirat ing! Make upt o $60,00 a yea r! Vis it n0w for you're m ore inf0!
http://it.goecities.com/somelamer666
The yellow dog was found to be absurd. Don't yell at the indifference of the primary system. Why he didn't cower at the sight of the new pages was unknown... ----
Tags are ok, but I don't really see the point. If you put "dupe" and I put "duped", it is two different tags. I would prefer to see a list that we could choose from instead. Yes, it would be subject to manipulation if everyone could use it, but maybe only allowing those who have chosen to moderate and DO moderate would help. If someone was denied moderation in the future because their moderations were metamodded as unfair, then they would loose the ability to mod the articles.
What you DO with the moderation of the articles is another matter. That would take some trial and error. Does a bunch of negatives get it pushed to the topic but off the front page? Do you post the average moderation of the article with the article? Do only the editors see the results so they know to quit posting fluff? I don't know, all the answers have drawbacks, but/. has been evolving over the years anyway, so it wouldn't be that revolutionary. MAYBE that was the idea behind tagging, but tagging just seems so weak.
This is why I wish there was some kind of moderation that all users could do on stories published here. Not digg style (ugg... don't get me started...) but a way for users to tell the editors here that the story sucked and was a waste of time. I am amazed at some of garbage that has made the front page over the last month. It WAS getting better here, but now I wonder.
Something being "interesting" to one of the editors here is not the same as it being "news". I don't come here to read old, rehashed garbage from 1998. Well, I don't on PURPOSE.
I stand corrected, it was a cd jewel case. I knew it was something simple. My fear is still that you can just lift the print off the actual laptop itself, or off something in the laptop carry case, like a jewel case. Myth Busters have already proven this is very plausable.
The other issue is that if the person has the laptop and a print in their posession, they can keep hacking over and over until they get it right, time isn't as big of an issue when hacking a laptop as it is when hacking a door lock. It just a matter of time, which may be a small investment if you are the bad guy, and the laptop has 250k people's Social Security Numbers on it.
Did you ever see the Myth Buster episode where they tried to spoof a finger print reader? No matter how hard they tried, everything they attempted worked. Yes, worked. It became a big joke and they had to keep making the method "dumber", but still it kept gaining access.
They lifted a finger print from a soda can of the "owner", then using common chemicals (like acetone), etched a copy out to a circuit board, used that as a reverse and simple ballistics gel to make a fake finger print cover that fit over their own thumb. Not something a petty thief would have, but it wasn't rocket science either. If I could get your laptop, I could get your fingerprint. Maybe even OFF the laptop. This is like writing your password down on a postit note you keep with the laptop.
Finger print readers are probably one of the worst biometric devices you can have for security. Oh, and the device they tested was a VERY expensive door lock system, not some $100 USB device.
Actually, I am waiting for the BSA to come in and sue the people whose machines were "infected" with this pirated version of Kaspersky AV software. The BSA poses a greater threat than the spywear that was removed.
User: "I didn't install it! I swear!" BSA: "Yea right, it just installed itself...."
Remember not whipping out your credit card and spending yourself into oblivion is unamerican. Think of it this way, when you open a bank account you MIGHT get lucky and get as high as 3% interest rate (typically only credit unions), but every time you swipe that card you are giving Visa/Mastercard/etc a 12-27% savings account on the bank of you.
I'm not sure about that. It may be very "middle class", but I pay off every credit card each month, and my home will be paid off within a year. Most people I know in the top 5% of income pay off debt quickly, then use it as equity to make more wealth. (self finance their business, etc.) Granted, only 5% of the population are in the top 5% (...) but the lower 30% of the population can't get credit anyway. I could easily put over 100k on credit cards, but I'm not that dumb.
The lifestyle you suggest is pretty common, but it only guarantees you will be stuck in the middle and in debt, forever. Not everyone buys into that "dream".
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We make and import products globally. TUV, CSA, UL, ETL, Matlabs, etc. are all from different companies and countries and all accepted in many different countries.
As a general rule, CSA (Canada) is likely the strictest standard by a small margin, so we just import stuff into the US with CSA (or TUV out of Germany), which every place in the US accepts. Oh, and I am talking about comsumer goods that pull up to 50 amps at 230VAC, not some 600 milliamp wallwart transformer.
The difference in standards from one country to another are generally trivial, and most equipment is made to be complient with ALL standards, because it is easier and cheaper that way. This is why Sony has a 100-230V 50/60hz transformer. That covers every damn country in the world. Every. Single. One.
Now, Sony might not LABEL the product with the correct stamp, but they do this to prevent it from being imported. It is still the same product, has been tested to meet the same standards and is fully safe.
Yea, but image a beowulf of those. You could shave your face, your ass, your balls, your back and your legs in half a second. Put a small motor and a AAA in the thing, make it look like a 1950s lawn mower. You can shave on the way to work, talk on your cell phone AND drink that mocha latte at the same time. Fuck, you could shave a rottweiler with that bad boy and he wouldn't know what hit him till he was balder than a baby's ass.
(Sorry, got caught up in the Onion article, and I *DO* work in marketing for a living...)
Zapp Brannigan: You see, Killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them, until they reached their limit and shut down.
Bender: A grim day for robot-kind. Ah, but we can always build more killbots.
thanks
Quick, before someone sees me! Go to my secret website and type LOGIN. Then use my login, Pharmboy. My password is "portal" (without the quotes). At the prompt, type "thecakeisalie" at the prompt without the quotes to activate the hidden camera inside Microsoft! The cake is a lie and this proves it!!!1!
;)
If you did a little googling, you would see that DEC sued Intel over patent infringement and for abuse a monopoly, along with a few others.
Here is another link you might find useful.
People bitch about how a company is growing larger and more powerful (Walmart, McD's) but it is to simple to defeat them if that is really important.
Don't give them your money.
That's the beauty of capitalism, it is 100% democratic and you vote with your dollars. Even when a company has a monopoly (MS), you can choose something else (Linux).
I don't use the "new discussion system" and I still get the "moderate" button. Maybe reverting back to the old system when you moderate would help. The new system is more annoying than useful anyway.
I am starting to think there is something about companies with 3 letter names that makes them want to sue, like SCO, DEC, NCR, AT&T and now SGI.
Thank goodness we have IBM and AMD to stand up to them.....
I was hoping someone would bring up Mel Tellis. While he wasn't able to overcome the stuttering, we WAS able to keep a sense of humor about it, and allowed it to be how he was identified. Oh, and yea, he is a hell of a singer as well.
He was the first famous person that I am aware of that proved someone with speach problems can be funny and talented without hiding the speech problem.
Not really. A school is almost exactly like a business
Not exactly, as only half the kids at a school network are looking at porn and playing games, compared to 80% of employees...
But your other point, that a business is not liable for what happens on the network is incorrect. A male employee checks out porn, offense a female, the company is liable for sexual harassment. Your computers get infected and start spewing out spam, you are liable and your T1 shut down for a while. You run a server that accepts credit applications and your server gets pwned, you are liable.
If anything, a business is MORE liable because you can't blame it on a 14 year old kid.
Actually, a quantum Norton Antivirus would be easy. Just write a quantum application that doesn't do anything.
But it would have to be very large, and have the ability to slow all the other functions of your computer to less than light speed as well.
...what will happen when the immortal, ravenous human hordes hit the fragile galactic ecosystem ...
I'm waiting for the protests from the new PETA...
People for the Ethical Treatment of Asteroids.
I always thought that immortality could be used as a stealth weapon, albeit a slow one. Pretend there is a country you don't like but can't legally go to war with. For the sake of arguement, lets pretend it is France.
1. USA offers all French seniors free immortality pills. (who would want to die?)
2. French govt. checks for retirement never end, so they must raise taxes each year.
3. Young educated people can't take the taxes, they leave and come to America.
4. France is screwed because they are broke and the average citizen is 95.
I mean what do you do, raise the retirement age to "infinity minus 10"?
Oh, and it is the drug companies who create new drugs, not doctors. And they have no interest in curing a disease when it is more profitable to treat it with many drugs.
Hell, I was thinking that storing my cell phone in my underwear was a lot cheaper than condoms or birth control pills.
Keeps the boys warm, too.
Is this practical if your local electric power company's...
I think common sense need to be inserted here. You can still contact your local power company if they advertise and ask them not to. I don't think anyone would have taken my statement as meaning you have to go buy a generator.
I didn't even say quit buying anything, or limit it to companies that have products you normally purchase. I said to tell them you were going to stop buying their products. Just as if your name is Bob, and Tampax is the advertiser, I don't think you would tell them you are going to quit buying their tampons, but you can still write or email them. Or have your wife or girlfriend do so.
So yes, it is practical if you apply a just a little common sense.
Wasn't it some Looney guy that said Roswell was a conspiracy, too? ;)
The root kit CD's were enough for me to stop buying Sony products or contributing in any way to their bottom line. Not buying Sony products has become a matter of self-defense and monetary preservation.
If you really wanted to make a dent, I would suggest writing the advertising SPONSORS of Sony related TV shows, like Jeopardy and The King of Queens and tell them you have discontinued buying their products until they quit sponsoring entertainment that Sony has ownership in. Nothing like the threat of lost revenue to get a sponsor to seek other channels for their commercials.
?That's what I get for posting my two cents worth of intellectual property. :(</em>
Don't worry, for each person who steals your ideas, they will only get 2 cents. Not worth the time unless someone creates a botnet to steal your idea enmass to spam it:
----
To: luser@slashdot.org
From: bettysue@comcast.net
Lo0king f0r a w ay to mak e more mone y?
Triy pirat ing! Make upt o $60,00 a yea r! Vis it n0w for you're m ore inf0!
http://it.goecities.com/somelamer666
The yellow dog was found to be absurd. Don't yell at the indifference of the primary system. Why he didn't cower at the sight of the new pages was unknown...
----
Tags are ok, but I don't really see the point. If you put "dupe" and I put "duped", it is two different tags. I would prefer to see a list that we could choose from instead. Yes, it would be subject to manipulation if everyone could use it, but maybe only allowing those who have chosen to moderate and DO moderate would help. If someone was denied moderation in the future because their moderations were metamodded as unfair, then they would loose the ability to mod the articles.
/. has been evolving over the years anyway, so it wouldn't be that revolutionary. MAYBE that was the idea behind tagging, but tagging just seems so weak.
What you DO with the moderation of the articles is another matter. That would take some trial and error. Does a bunch of negatives get it pushed to the topic but off the front page? Do you post the average moderation of the article with the article? Do only the editors see the results so they know to quit posting fluff? I don't know, all the answers have drawbacks, but
This is why I wish there was some kind of moderation that all users could do on stories published here. Not digg style (ugg... don't get me started...) but a way for users to tell the editors here that the story sucked and was a waste of time. I am amazed at some of garbage that has made the front page over the last month. It WAS getting better here, but now I wonder.
Something being "interesting" to one of the editors here is not the same as it being "news". I don't come here to read old, rehashed garbage from 1998. Well, I don't on PURPOSE.
I stand corrected, it was a cd jewel case. I knew it was something simple. My fear is still that you can just lift the print off the actual laptop itself, or off something in the laptop carry case, like a jewel case. Myth Busters have already proven this is very plausable.
The other issue is that if the person has the laptop and a print in their posession, they can keep hacking over and over until they get it right, time isn't as big of an issue when hacking a laptop as it is when hacking a door lock. It just a matter of time, which may be a small investment if you are the bad guy, and the laptop has 250k people's Social Security Numbers on it.
Did you ever see the Myth Buster episode where they tried to spoof a finger print reader? No matter how hard they tried, everything they attempted worked. Yes, worked. It became a big joke and they had to keep making the method "dumber", but still it kept gaining access.
They lifted a finger print from a soda can of the "owner", then using common chemicals (like acetone), etched a copy out to a circuit board, used that as a reverse and simple ballistics gel to make a fake finger print cover that fit over their own thumb. Not something a petty thief would have, but it wasn't rocket science either. If I could get your laptop, I could get your fingerprint. Maybe even OFF the laptop. This is like writing your password down on a postit note you keep with the laptop.
Finger print readers are probably one of the worst biometric devices you can have for security. Oh, and the device they tested was a VERY expensive door lock system, not some $100 USB device.
Actually, I am waiting for the BSA to come in and sue the people whose machines were "infected" with this pirated version of Kaspersky AV software. The BSA poses a greater threat than the spywear that was removed.
User: "I didn't install it! I swear!"
BSA: "Yea right, it just installed itself...."
What is next, you are gong to get a batch for not farting in elevators?
Considering the BSA's homophobia, I am guessing the next badge will be for "Not holding it in your mouth until the swelling goes down".
Remember not whipping out your credit card and spending yourself into oblivion is unamerican. Think of it this way, when you open a bank account you MIGHT get lucky and get as high as 3% interest rate (typically only credit unions), but every time you swipe that card you are giving Visa/Mastercard/etc a 12-27% savings account on the bank of you.
I'm not sure about that. It may be very "middle class", but I pay off every credit card each month, and my home will be paid off within a year. Most people I know in the top 5% of income pay off debt quickly, then use it as equity to make more wealth. (self finance their business, etc.) Granted, only 5% of the population are in the top 5% (...) but the lower 30% of the population can't get credit anyway. I could easily put over 100k on credit cards, but I'm not that dumb.
The lifestyle you suggest is pretty common, but it only guarantees you will be stuck in the middle and in debt, forever. Not everyone buys into that "dream".