I run the network for an ISP here in rural Canada. Here are our prices:
DSL 128k/64k - $27.95
DSL 1.5Mbps/256k - $39.95
DSL 3Mbps/512k - $59.95
Wireless (Motorola Canopy) - 1.5Mbps/256k burstable to 2Mbps/512k - $39.95 residential or $59.95 business
Soon the 1.5Mb DSL will be 2.5Mb/512k and the 3Mb will be 4Mb/1Mb - for the existing prices
Competition is not too bad around here - we are a cooperative telephone company that competes with a few others in our area as well as the local cable company, but none of us like to screw our customers - there is NO WAY that anyone could get away with selling broadband for USA prices. Its insane.
Also, with our service, you get a DHCP (non routable) address, and if you want a real IP you can run some PPPoE software. So far this solution seems to work as it keeps most customers from being probed from the internet and lets them do everything they want to. If they want to run a server or do a voice chat, they do PPPoE for the session and then drop off.
We come to your house to do the installs for FREE, and if your DSL dies, we come and replace it for FREE. We include a FREE high quality surge protector for the customers PC and our equipment. Welcome to Canada;)
Yeah the outhouse phone dealie is because some of the rules say that they can own a telephone but it cannot be placed in the house and needs to be 'X' number of feet away from the residence. We have a large menonite community where I live and they have some pretty funny rules (IMO. One being that they can use a 95HP tractor to do field work, but 105HP is too much. My buddy tried to sell them one "tuned down" to 95HP but they wouldn't take it. Others can't use a tractor or a phone at all. Others drive a vehicles into town to get some groceries and go to the bar to have a beer. I'd like to see a couple Amish guys get into a big discussion on why its wrong to have a car, while the other guy enjoys his car just fine.
I totally thought this was some "American" thing where they have a hot girl in some sort of sash deemed "Miss Utility" for a year (you know, county fair stuff). I went to the site and checked the links, but all I found was info for a locate. Damn you for perking my umm.. interest.
I work for a telco and we plough cable every day. We do this in populated neighborhoods and new lots. It is extremely rare that we cut a cable (in fact I do not know of one in over a year), but NEVER a pipe. This work is not really Verizon's fault as it seems they are hiring subcontractors to do the work. This is a simple case of incompetence where the subcontractors do not call for a LOCATE (or they get a locate done so far in advance that it washes away or something). Also, I'm sure you all realize that this has nothing to do with fiber to the home, it has to do with people not being able to dig properly.. no matter what they are laying in the ground.
They have Walmart VISA's in Canada. Its something outrageous like 28% interest - though the figure could be a touch smaller. Whether or not they track or keep records of all of the information on a VISA, I don't know, but I'm sure they could if they wanted to.
Yeah, well I don't really care if the kid worked hard or not to receive his daddys fortune. His dad had some money and wanted to give it to the kids. His dad worked hard for it, so it is his. Why should the government get to tax it now that he is passing it a long to his son. The question is: Why should he be taxed for it... he already has paid the income tax on it. The rest is SAVED by him. Why pay more tax when you transfer it? Its not the governments money. If you save a bunch of cash for your kids and then the goverment steps in a says "Yeah you worked hard for it, but we get to take a cut if you would like to USE your money, so... we're taking a bunch, OK?" "Trust us, its better this way - see, your kids didn't work for it anyway, and because you saved it instead of spending it frivolously, we are going to buy more guns as an excuse to need more taxes. Thanks for being an American!"
Well I guess it just affects the backbone of the USA. One more thing to hinder doing business with the USA, or at least, businesses in the USA doing business with other countries. If I ran these companies, I would just ignore this guy and his dumb-ass patent. Let him try to sue every major corporation with the little cash he has on hand.. something tells me this won't fly.
This does not represent Canada. This represents stuck-up, old geezer english profs, which I'm pretty sure are the same everywhere. I guess we (Canada) just have a few too many of these guys influencing our political system. Unfortunately you must be hanging around with a bunch of losers. I suggest you get cool, drop med school (since your probably just going to use Canada for cheap education and then defect to the states like the rest of our doctors), smoke a d00b and start talking to people outside of English departments that actually embrace freedom and change. Good luck!
Well, for one, someone at Nintendo has been looking up hot chicks on the internet and going through their homepages. Two, I don't see how its going to tarnish Nintendo's image if the comment is on a site like this. The only people that are going to read the comments from this person are people who go to these kinds of sites (read: PEOPLE WHO LIKE THIS STUFF), so I find it hard to believe that they are going to get upset at a mention of a video game.
Or the fact that they always say it costs more to train the staff because they didn't already have inner working knowledge of *nix. Well they didn't have inner working knowledge of Windows until they bought multiple copies at home for their PC's and their schools bought multiple copies for them to learn on at school, and they putted around on them for years etc etc. All those costs factor into initial training and therefore TCO. Also, they say that the "big" linux companies are now charging for support - Microsoft has always done this as well. Microsoft does not do free support. They have their knowledge base if you want to take time to wade through their site, and there are online docs for just about everything linux has/does as well.
It seems to me that the only arguments that MS ever uses are these:
1) If your going to migrate from an all windows corporation - meaning your ALREADY using windows - then yes, its going to cost more to go to linux. BUT! That's only for the initial cost - just like it costs a fuck of a lot to go from NO networks/workstations to buying a shitload of MS software/licenses. After a couple of years of using Opensource solutions and having great interoperability and not having to renew all your licensing and upgrading the newest MS Office, not having to deal with virii/trojan cleanups, not having spyware throughout the entire system, not having every user run as Admin and screw up eachothers machines... THEN the TCO of linux starts to shine.
2) It costs more to train the linux guys (people). That's because your going to get some poeple who can tweak your systems for optimal performance, troubleshoot very well, and LEARN ABOUT PROTOCOLS AND INNER WORKINGS OF THE PCs and NETWORKS. Not just which menu has which option to click on and when that option doesn't work, go to Add/Remove programs and reinstall because you can't debug for shit. Or go get a ghost image and redo the machine. Linux people tend to be far more "involved" (for lack of a better word) with computers than their MS counterpart. MS people are a dime a dozen because pretty much anyone can be trained how to install Exchange with the default settings, or how to double click the setup for IIS. But when it comes down to running a tight network (as in stable as well as secure), your highly trained MS guys with experience that know how to do the job right (I mean they must be gods if they can put up with windows and do it for a living;) ) are going to cost the same as your linux guys, I'm sure.
Authorities had expected to find a boat or small plane with a malfunctioning transponder, the usual culprit in such incidents, emitting the 121.5 MHz frequency of the distress signal used internationally.
Were they still thinking that while driving around the college neighbourhood trying to pinpoint the signal?
"Oh my gosh, it looks as though there must be a small plane or boat in that college building - and its in distress! Send everyone in immediately!"
He should have randomly fed STABLE code into each of the browsers and saw IE continue to freeze and hang while the other browsers continued to present real data to the end user;) Sure IE may not suck for bad code, but I like to look at real code with real information and I know that IE hasn't quite figured that one out yet;)
I agree, I purchased a Samsung SyncMaster 712N and it looks/works great. I run a laptop with the main laptop screen being extended onto the Syncmaster and there is no lag. I have never heard of anyone else having a lag either. We have 4 of these in my office and there is no lag on either one - each computer that is connected to these monitors is different. We are using the VGA plugs, not DVI.
I think in this case, you pretty much have to use your best judgement when hiring a former hacker/cracker/script kiddie...
Many people can and do change, and it's insane to judge someone on their past actions. Otherwise, why don't you just judge them on their behavior as a 4 year old. If your going to choose to judge them on their behavior at 18 or 19 then that is a judgement placed by you for no apparent reason. If the kid learns a shitload of life lessons (the easy or the hard way) then he/she could be a (relatively) different person by the time they are 22. Everyone makes mistakes, but nobody does wrong. Everyone does right based on their view of the world at the time of said act. So the kid has learned some lessons (maybe), thats good, now give him a chance. If he hasn't learned and he fucks up, kick him out until he learns and then let him have another stab at it.
I used to hack into things on a regular basis many years ago, and no, I have never been caught. That is either because I am really good, or because the admins are very poor at what they do (perhaps a bit of both). I am now an admin for an ISP and my boss trusts me. I have never done anything to betray that trust either openly or in secret, so I personally can say that one can go from being bad ass hacker type to a perfectly professional security analyst/sysadmin/whatever
Past is past (as in, not relevant now). If everyone judged everyone else on past actions, we really wouldn't be anywhere today because everyone could pick one action that they didn't like about someone else to use that as an excuse not to include/hire/like/whatever that person. Just remember - when you judge someone on a past action, you better take the WHOLE picture into consideration (up to the present) or you are just selecting a specific event in time and judging someones whole life (worth) based on one action without understanding the circumstances on how that action came to be. Best not to judge, but to BE.
It really would be a good idea to try out several distro's for a couple of weeks to get used to them (get an old copy of slackware from '96-'98 or something and try that on for size), but your company is probably going to be purchasing Redhat (grab Fedora Core 2) or SuSE, so playing with these would be a good idea. Getting used to the way distro's use various packaging systems is a also a good idea (Redhat/Mandrake/SuSE RPMs, Debians APT, Emerge from Gentoo), as well as how they boot and where to place scripts, using runlevels etc.
If you do an older Slackware install then you can get used to Setting up LILO (even though Grub is more of the standard nowadays), manually partitioning and learning how the REAL fdisk works instead of the Windows version, compiling kernels/modules for your hardware and seeing if they work, setting up various networking options in the kernel and trying those. Play with PPP support, PPPoE Connections, Ethernet connections, go grab Apache, Postfix/Sendmail, Qpopper (or any POP/IMAP daemon), MySQL, ProFTPd (or any FTP daemon)and start setting up services for your server. This will get you playing with the configs a lot and getting used to editing config files on a regular basis - remember linux is not about finding the right option under the right category in the right menu - its about sticking the correct config options in the correct config file. I would hold off getting a graphical display set up as that will only hide the nuts & bolts behind the scene. Stay in a text-based environment and do as much as you can.
The University does not own the network, does not pay for the network, has no affiliation with the DSL/cable companies, does not lease your room to you, so basically its the same as if I went and put this poster up at a school. I have as much authority as the university. I understand that this is causing the university problems - but that is because they didn't do their research into how to design a network properly. One, they shouldn't have used the technology they chose. An unlicensed band is just that - UNLICENSED - so you can do what you want - just like the university can do what THEY want, but if it interferes than that is too bad. If I was a Comcast subscriber in that building, I would have just as much right as the Uni does to go to the school and tell them to take down THEIR wireless network because its interfering with my home LAN. Ofcourse this would be laughed at in the same manner as I would laugh at the Uni when they came knocking on my door.
Solution: Go and knock on all the students doors and show them how to set up a UNIQUE wireless access point that is secure - so there is not 100 LANs with "Default" as the SSID. Instead of ripping out their AP's, set them up on the same channel (or evenly distribute the lower spectrum), and then set up the University AP's on the higher end of the spectrum with an easily identified SSID. Win-Win situation. The students will be happy because their LAN isn't being interfered with as much and so will the school. Otherwise, the SCHOOL can buy all those Comcast people a NEW NIC and a NEW AP or atleast lend them the equipment for the year - it would still be cheaper than buying a license for a spectrum and using equipment that they could legally regulate.
Rant:Schools suck enough money out of students with some fairly shady practises as it is - now they want to sell them overpriced equipment in the school Tech store or push them around with threatening expulsion, or some other action. The schools can suck it up - I had to pay for "highspeed access" in my school and we had 780 rooms sharing a 2MB connection. I explained that by NOBODY's definition was this highspeed and said that they are at risk of sending out a lot of refunds due to false advertising (I worked for the ResNet) - We had 10MB to share within a couple of weeks. If you don't push back, institutions will continue to push around students and take them for all their worth,
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I run the network for an ISP here in rural Canada. Here are our prices:
;)
DSL 128k/64k - $27.95
DSL 1.5Mbps/256k - $39.95
DSL 3Mbps/512k - $59.95
Wireless (Motorola Canopy) - 1.5Mbps/256k burstable to 2Mbps/512k - $39.95 residential or $59.95 business
Soon the 1.5Mb DSL will be 2.5Mb/512k and the 3Mb will be 4Mb/1Mb - for the existing prices
Competition is not too bad around here - we are a cooperative telephone company that competes with a few others in our area as well as the local cable company, but none of us like to screw our customers - there is NO WAY that anyone could get away with selling broadband for USA prices. Its insane.
Also, with our service, you get a DHCP (non routable) address, and if you want a real IP you can run some PPPoE software. So far this solution seems to work as it keeps most customers from being probed from the internet and lets them do everything they want to. If they want to run a server or do a voice chat, they do PPPoE for the session and then drop off.
We come to your house to do the installs for FREE, and if your DSL dies, we come and replace it for FREE. We include a FREE high quality surge protector for the customers PC and our equipment. Welcome to Canada
Yeah the outhouse phone dealie is because some of the rules say that they can own a telephone but it cannot be placed in the house and needs to be 'X' number of feet away from the residence. We have a large menonite community where I live and they have some pretty funny rules (IMO. One being that they can use a 95HP tractor to do field work, but 105HP is too much. My buddy tried to sell them one "tuned down" to 95HP but they wouldn't take it. Others can't use a tractor or a phone at all. Others drive a vehicles into town to get some groceries and go to the bar to have a beer. I'd like to see a couple Amish guys get into a big discussion on why its wrong to have a car, while the other guy enjoys his car just fine.
I totally thought this was some "American" thing where they have a hot girl in some sort of sash deemed "Miss Utility" for a year (you know, county fair stuff). I went to the site and checked the links, but all I found was info for a locate. Damn you for perking my umm.. interest.
I work for a telco and we plough cable every day. We do this in populated neighborhoods and new lots. It is extremely rare that we cut a cable (in fact I do not know of one in over a year), but NEVER a pipe. This work is not really Verizon's fault as it seems they are hiring subcontractors to do the work. This is a simple case of incompetence where the subcontractors do not call for a LOCATE (or they get a locate done so far in advance that it washes away or something).
Also, I'm sure you all realize that this has nothing to do with fiber to the home, it has to do with people not being able to dig properly.. no matter what they are laying in the ground.
RFID...
They have Walmart VISA's in Canada. Its something outrageous like 28% interest - though the figure could be a touch smaller. Whether or not they track or keep records of all of the information on a VISA, I don't know, but I'm sure they could if they wanted to.
Yeah, well I don't really care if the kid worked hard or not to receive his daddys fortune. His dad had some money and wanted to give it to the kids. His dad worked hard for it, so it is his. Why should the government get to tax it now that he is passing it a long to his son. The question is: Why should he be taxed for it... he already has paid the income tax on it. The rest is SAVED by him. Why pay more tax when you transfer it? Its not the governments money. If you save a bunch of cash for your kids and then the goverment steps in a says "Yeah you worked hard for it, but we get to take a cut if you would like to USE your money, so... we're taking a bunch, OK?" "Trust us, its better this way - see, your kids didn't work for it anyway, and because you saved it instead of spending it frivolously, we are going to buy more guns as an excuse to need more taxes. Thanks for being an American!"
I could go for a doobie right about now...
Well I guess it just affects the backbone of the USA. One more thing to hinder doing business with the USA, or at least, businesses in the USA doing business with other countries. If I ran these companies, I would just ignore this guy and his dumb-ass patent. Let him try to sue every major corporation with the little cash he has on hand.. something tells me this won't fly.
This does not represent Canada. This represents stuck-up, old geezer english profs, which I'm pretty sure are the same everywhere. I guess we (Canada) just have a few too many of these guys influencing our political system. Unfortunately you must be hanging around with a bunch of losers. I suggest you get cool, drop med school (since your probably just going to use Canada for cheap education and then defect to the states like the rest of our doctors), smoke a d00b and start talking to people outside of English departments that actually embrace freedom and change. Good luck!
Well, for one, someone at Nintendo has been looking up hot chicks on the internet and going through their homepages. Two, I don't see how its going to tarnish Nintendo's image if the comment is on a site like this. The only people that are going to read the comments from this person are people who go to these kinds of sites (read: PEOPLE WHO LIKE THIS STUFF), so I find it hard to believe that they are going to get upset at a mention of a video game.
Or the fact that they always say it costs more to train the staff because they didn't already have inner working knowledge of *nix. Well they didn't have inner working knowledge of Windows until they bought multiple copies at home for their PC's and their schools bought multiple copies for them to learn on at school, and they putted around on them for years etc etc. All those costs factor into initial training and therefore TCO. Also, they say that the "big" linux companies are now charging for support - Microsoft has always done this as well. Microsoft does not do free support. They have their knowledge base if you want to take time to wade through their site, and there are online docs for just about everything linux has/does as well.
;) ) are going to cost the same as your linux guys, I'm sure.
It seems to me that the only arguments that MS ever uses are these:
1) If your going to migrate from an all windows corporation - meaning your ALREADY using windows - then yes, its going to cost more to go to linux. BUT! That's only for the initial cost - just like it costs a fuck of a lot to go from NO networks/workstations to buying a shitload of MS software/licenses. After a couple of years of using Opensource solutions and having great interoperability and not having to renew all your licensing and upgrading the newest MS Office, not having to deal with virii/trojan cleanups, not having spyware throughout the entire system, not having every user run as Admin and screw up eachothers machines... THEN the TCO of linux starts to shine.
2) It costs more to train the linux guys (people). That's because your going to get some poeple who can tweak your systems for optimal performance, troubleshoot very well, and LEARN ABOUT PROTOCOLS AND INNER WORKINGS OF THE PCs and NETWORKS. Not just which menu has which option to click on and when that option doesn't work, go to Add/Remove programs and reinstall because you can't debug for shit. Or go get a ghost image and redo the machine. Linux people tend to be far more "involved" (for lack of a better word) with computers than their MS counterpart. MS people are a dime a dozen because pretty much anyone can be trained how to install Exchange with the default settings, or how to double click the setup for IIS. But when it comes down to running a tight network (as in stable as well as secure), your highly trained MS guys with experience that know how to do the job right (I mean they must be gods if they can put up with windows and do it for a living
Actually, I don't use IE.
Thanks for the spyware tip, but I'm fully aware of the inner workings of windows and how spyware may negatively affect the performance of a machine.
You are correct. I didn't have anything useful to contribute except for the JOKE post. Unless you don't find humour useful....
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Authorities had expected to find a boat or small plane with a malfunctioning transponder, the usual culprit in such incidents, emitting the 121.5 MHz frequency of the distress signal used internationally.
Were they still thinking that while driving around the college neighbourhood trying to pinpoint the signal?
"Oh my gosh, it looks as though there must be a small plane or boat in that college building - and its in distress! Send everyone in immediately!"
He should have randomly fed STABLE code into each of the browsers and saw IE continue to freeze and hang while the other browsers continued to present real data to the end user ;) Sure IE may not suck for bad code, but I like to look at real code with real information and I know that IE hasn't quite figured that one out yet ;)
I agree, I purchased a Samsung SyncMaster 712N and it looks/works great. I run a laptop with the main laptop screen being extended onto the Syncmaster and there is no lag. I have never heard of anyone else having a lag either. We have 4 of these in my office and there is no lag on either one - each computer that is connected to these monitors is different. We are using the VGA plugs, not DVI.
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I think in this case, you pretty much have to use your best judgement when hiring a former hacker/cracker/script kiddie...
Many people can and do change, and it's insane to judge someone on their past actions. Otherwise, why don't you just judge them on their behavior as a 4 year old. If your going to choose to judge them on their behavior at 18 or 19 then that is a judgement placed by you for no apparent reason. If the kid learns a shitload of life lessons (the easy or the hard way) then he/she could be a (relatively) different person by the time they are 22. Everyone makes mistakes, but nobody does wrong. Everyone does right based on their view of the world at the time of said act. So the kid has learned some lessons (maybe), thats good, now give him a chance. If he hasn't learned and he fucks up, kick him out until he learns and then let him have another stab at it.
I used to hack into things on a regular basis many years ago, and no, I have never been caught. That is either because I am really good, or because the admins are very poor at what they do (perhaps a bit of both). I am now an admin for an ISP and my boss trusts me. I have never done anything to betray that trust either openly or in secret, so I personally can say that one can go from being bad ass hacker type to a perfectly professional security analyst/sysadmin/whatever
Past is past (as in, not relevant now). If everyone judged everyone else on past actions, we really wouldn't be anywhere today because everyone could pick one action that they didn't like about someone else to use that as an excuse not to include/hire/like/whatever that person. Just remember - when you judge someone on a past action, you better take the WHOLE picture into consideration (up to the present) or you are just selecting a specific event in time and judging someones whole life (worth) based on one action without understanding the circumstances on how that action came to be. Best not to judge, but to BE.
Hell, all that they had to do was stick a new Geforce and an Athlon in there and she'd be warm as toast ;)
It really would be a good idea to try out several distro's for a couple of weeks to get used to them (get an old copy of slackware from '96-'98 or something and try that on for size), but your company is probably going to be purchasing Redhat (grab Fedora Core 2) or SuSE, so playing with these would be a good idea. Getting used to the way distro's use various packaging systems is a also a good idea (Redhat/Mandrake/SuSE RPMs, Debians APT, Emerge from Gentoo), as well as how they boot and where to place scripts, using runlevels etc.
If you do an older Slackware install then you can get used to Setting up LILO (even though Grub is more of the standard nowadays), manually partitioning and learning how the REAL fdisk works instead of the Windows version, compiling kernels/modules for your hardware and seeing if they work, setting up various networking options in the kernel and trying those. Play with PPP support, PPPoE Connections, Ethernet connections, go grab Apache, Postfix/Sendmail, Qpopper (or any POP/IMAP daemon), MySQL, ProFTPd (or any FTP daemon)and start setting up services for your server. This will get you playing with the configs a lot and getting used to editing config files on a regular basis - remember linux is not about finding the right option under the right category in the right menu - its about sticking the correct config options in the correct config file. I would hold off getting a graphical display set up as that will only hide the nuts & bolts behind the scene. Stay in a text-based environment and do as much as you can.
The University does not own the network, does not pay for the network, has no affiliation with the DSL/cable companies, does not lease your room to you, so basically its the same as if I went and put this poster up at a school. I have as much authority as the university. I understand that this is causing the university problems - but that is because they didn't do their research into how to design a network properly. One, they shouldn't have used the technology they chose. An unlicensed band is just that - UNLICENSED - so you can do what you want - just like the university can do what THEY want, but if it interferes than that is too bad. If I was a Comcast subscriber in that building, I would have just as much right as the Uni does to go to the school and tell them to take down THEIR wireless network because its interfering with my home LAN. Ofcourse this would be laughed at in the same manner as I would laugh at the Uni when they came knocking on my door.
Solution: Go and knock on all the students doors and show them how to set up a UNIQUE wireless access point that is secure - so there is not 100 LANs with "Default" as the SSID. Instead of ripping out their AP's, set them up on the same channel (or evenly distribute the lower spectrum), and then set up the University AP's on the higher end of the spectrum with an easily identified SSID. Win-Win situation. The students will be happy because their LAN isn't being interfered with as much and so will the school. Otherwise, the SCHOOL can buy all those Comcast people a NEW NIC and a NEW AP or atleast lend them the equipment for the year - it would still be cheaper than buying a license for a spectrum and using equipment that they could legally regulate.
Rant:Schools suck enough money out of students with some fairly shady practises as it is - now they want to sell them overpriced equipment in the school Tech store or push them around with threatening expulsion, or some other action. The schools can suck it up - I had to pay for "highspeed access" in my school and we had 780 rooms sharing a 2MB connection. I explained that by NOBODY's definition was this highspeed and said that they are at risk of sending out a lot of refunds due to false advertising (I worked for the ResNet) - We had 10MB to share within a couple of weeks. If you don't push back, institutions will continue to push around students and take them for all their worth,
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An electrical shock hazard has caused Lexmard to recall about 39,400 laser printers.
Is it really Lexmard?