Plot devices I have to activate in a certain way, yes, but...
1) I can walk into the room with the trigger from many sides in HL... in DL not only do I have to walk in one door but I have to do so exactly the same way and at exactly the right point in time.
2) When facing a monster in HL I can:... avoid it stealthily and (with the exception of rare encounters) escape unscather.... kill it quickly with a big bad weapon... (if the encounter is scripted such) use something in the environment to damage it... take it out bit by bit with a close in weapon
In dragon's lair I either take it out the right way in exactly the same manner, or I lose.
I would go so far as to say that the original comparison was -fundamentally- flawed in comparing DL to HL because they have scripted linear plots.
Why? Because HL has a scripted linear plot but freeform action. DL has a scripted linear plot AND scripted linear action. While I found DL entriguing back when I was in Junior High and it came out in the arcades (it -was- pretty), nowadays it feels like someone made a cartoon, put it on my TiVo, and won't let me watch it without memorizing a combination of buttons to press throughout the show.
Show me how I can take Dragon's Lair, connect to the net, and proceed to randomly KILL KILL KILL^W^W^W^W deathmatch with my friends. Or write a mod for it to add new weapons or rules.
Sorry, but in using Half-Life you only remembered 1/2 of what Half-Life is. And even in the single player game (and there are plenty of linearly scripted single player games) at least I don't have to twitch my hands in some repetitive illogical pattern every few seconds to survive. I can go about things in many different ways.
The poster seems to be using the weakest point of Half-Life (linear script) to say that Dragon's Lair was good because it shared that same weak point and took it to an extreme. Sorry, not a good comparison.
"Mature" when it comes to games is having the ability to say "do you run Linux? Then run this installer." and not having to worry about which distribution it is.
If you can do that, or ignore all but one distribution, and:
* have a paying install base (ie, not total number of installs but number of people who are willing to pay for your software) at least as big as OSX
and
* can be reasonably well assured that people who have video cards they bought to play your game will have 3D graphics running smoothly -without- your help
The major distribution (as in games, not Linux) houses will pay attention to Linux in a significant way.
For now the ball is still in the court of the major Linux distros to get us to those places. They're working on things but it is not there yet. Will it be by 2006? Maybe, I am not convinced yet.
That's great if his ISP will set it up for him, but what happens to the -next- guy who wants to use those same ports? If they are forwarding to Joe#1, Joe#2 can not have those ports.
What part of "only broadband option" don't you understand?
I sympathize, my only broadband option (sorry, satellite doesn't count to me... broadband is about low latency almost as much as fast speed) is 802.11b wireless. I'm lucky that my ISP doesn't filter or NAT me, but if they did I'd be stuck with them.
Nowadays most companies that contract with a retail distributor will often have to pay that distributor for -any- copies sold. Don't know if id is that way or not, but don't be surprised if so. They would probably still get a little more, but not significantly so.
Yep... when taking the last job I had to interview for (my current job is from being aquired) I made sure to put a list of my current and planned future projects on my resume. Then when signing my employment agreement I added a clause that said "all items mentioned on my attached resume are and will continue to be my property".
Now admittedly, my employer wasn't really looking to do the things I was listing, but hey, it was close enough. They initialed, I signed, and then I proceeded to piss away my time instead of working on those things:)
2 reasons, both predicated on the idea that it will happen with or without us.
1) If Open Source is a major player in the software for such things, we all have a better understanding of it.
For instance, do you really trust proprietary software to say "yes, I fried your tag, you may leave in peace" and actually do it, or do you wonder if it said that, but really just threw a "be silent when this guy walks out the door" to the tracking station that goes off if you leave without paying?
2) If Open Source is a major player, then the community has a much higher visibility for things like standards boards and oversight commities.
If GNU, Apache, Linux, etc and the very vocal proponents of such did not exist, I strongly doubt you'd see geeks and unix beards sitting at as many of the various levels of these things as you do now. It would be back to the backroom anticompetitive negotiations.
So do we just cave and accept RFID (or monopolistic software) wherever and whenever and however it creeps in? No, we continue to be active. But the world is grey. Good and Bad happens. Better than we are involved both ways than to give an inch.
Does no one else get routinely tired of.rpm files being seen as "audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin" when trying to download a new RPM package from a web site?
I wish that by now there would have been a resolution between the two file types. Other than switching off an RPM distribution:)
Actually Sun has traditionally stocked R&D even when everything else is tight as McNealy feels the best way to come out of a slump is fighting. On that I'll give him credit... though alot of other decisions have been flaky lately.
IBM is working their way away from being dependent on AIX.
IBM doesn't depend on SuSE today, true, but what SuSE does right now is allow IBM to not be dependent on Red Hat. Take away that crutch (or at least be the one holding it) and IBM is in a less open position.
However, will it be as much of a burden to IBM to lose SuSE as paying 2.8Billion will be to Sun? I doubt it.
Do they blame the car owner if the thief breaks into the car and steals it?
No, they blame the thief. Go back and you'll see that's where I put the primary responsibility as well.
I didn't say pity Joe User, he gets on my nerves too. But put blame where blame belongs. And Microsoft is the one responsible for the software that -enables- those 3rd party malicious softwares to run without end users having a clue.
Sorry, but no, it's not criminal careless unless there are laws against it. You might find it unethical (I don't, since the user is not making a conscious decision to be abused by the virus) but the -user- is in no way the criminal.
Funny how you want to make the user a criminal, yet I'm the one trying to make the Internet a gated community.
And that virgin might not be innocent -after- that little stroll, but that doesn't mean she didn't go in innocently. Just means she doesn't know anything about Central Park, or she was on some amazing drugs. You imply that she is therefore somehow responsible for the actions of those around her. Hope you don't have a sister in NYC that likes acid.
Not true... the appliance is not an X client at all.
SunRay server software keeps framebuffers for multiple X sessions on the server. Those sessions are sent over the network via a completely different protocol from X. Very similar in high-level concept to VNC.
This allows some neat things, the neatest of which you also don't mention:) The SunRay terminals have smart card interfaces.
To put in practical perspective (I almost skipped my Disclaimer: I work for Sun here since it should be painfully obvious), my employee ID badge is a smartcard that I can use for entrance to the building. When I get to my terminal I can plug that smartcard in before I log in. If I want to walk away, I pull my card and my session stays open on the server, but not on the terminal. I can walk to any other terminal in the building, plug it in, and my session pops onto the terminal. I can leave things running in the session, since it never dies. I don't -have- to use my smartcard. I can log in without it, but I lose portability for that session.
It is quite cool.
Now of course the OS needs support for smartcard stuff, so the easiest way -today- is to use Solaris SPARC, but put the smartcard framework on Linux and use the Linux SunRay Server software and voila, portable network Linux sessions (as you mentioned, but pointing out the portability).
Additionally, the SunRay terminals have USB connectors and audio. With proper support (it's being worked on) these will really enhance things.
There are other neat things that I really wanna talk about, but can't... they know my ID here;)
Sorry, thank you... absolutely right. And I should have known better because the whole time I was desparately wanting to type "the bus technology that DEC developed for the Alpha":) I definitely think a modern MoBo with Hypertransport and multiple onboard Gb NICs would work, but it is probably not the solution this poster had.
Since the poster was using additional NICs from the way I read it, Hypertransport still wouldn't help though, so maybe I should have left those pieces out.
Either way, the poster didn't put enough details to really be able to help.
a) how will the insurance company know the doors were unlocked? I'll lock them if I have to. The only way they'll know that the doors were unlocked would be if you came in and told them, admitting to the crime, and then I wouldn't need insurance, I'd just sue you directly. Plus, your admittance would probably be enough for the insurance company since it was still damage done on my insured property (and guess what, I've been through something similar and yes, they did pay and they did know my shed was unlocked because it -had- no lock).
b) I never said anything about insurance companies... it has nothing to do with the comparison. Why is it so hard for people to know how analogies work? There was nothing there on my bit or the part I was responding to that talked about recompensing the infected party. I don't know of an insurance for Joe User to pay for losses due to not backing up... and that is where the analogy would have to go. Sorry, pet peeve.
c) it is only my responsibility to set my alarm if I have one -and- if my insurance rates are adjusted because of the presence of the alarm.
d) Let us say the victim bought a new house (computer) with new locks and alarm (firewall, virus scanner) and he properly used the locks and alarm (installed Windows, installed the software, allowed the software to autoupdate definition files). Are you saying he took zero precautions? Sorry, he should be able to do those things without worrying day in and day out if some new virus hasn't been analyzed by his virus software vendor and/or firewall admin. If he disables these protections, yes, zero precautions, but given how many systems come from the OEM with these things built-in, the end user should not need to worry about it. It is not Joe User's fault that simply by opening an email message or browser window he can be infected. Not his fault, he is simply using the software as designed. Fault in this case is, again, the software manufacturer and primarily the virus author.
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You're right!
And my friends who finished their BA in fine arts have very little knowledge that a BACHELOR ARTIST should have.
Like my Retail Manager Wife, who will never know how to survive as a single male oil painter.
There is such a thing as being too literal. Sure you weren't an literary major?
Plot devices I have to activate in a certain way, yes, but ...
... in DL not only do I have to walk in one door but I have to do so exactly the same way and at exactly the right point in time.
... avoid it stealthily and (with the exception of rare encounters) escape unscather. ... kill it quickly with a big bad weapon ... (if the encounter is scripted such) use something in the environment to damage it ... take it out bit by bit with a close in weapon
1) I can walk into the room with the trigger from many sides in HL
2) When facing a monster in HL I can:
In dragon's lair I either take it out the right way in exactly the same manner, or I lose.
I would go so far as to say that the original comparison was -fundamentally- flawed in comparing DL to HL because they have scripted linear plots.
Why? Because HL has a scripted linear plot but freeform action. DL has a scripted linear plot AND scripted linear action. While I found DL entriguing back when I was in Junior High and it came out in the arcades (it -was- pretty), nowadays it feels like someone made a cartoon, put it on my TiVo, and won't let me watch it without memorizing a combination of buttons to press throughout the show.
Show me how I can take Dragon's Lair, connect to the net, and proceed to randomly KILL KILL KILL^W^W^W^W deathmatch with my friends. Or write a mod for it to add new weapons or rules.
Sorry, but in using Half-Life you only remembered 1/2 of what Half-Life is. And even in the single player game (and there are plenty of linearly scripted single player games) at least I don't have to twitch my hands in some repetitive illogical pattern every few seconds to survive. I can go about things in many different ways.
The poster seems to be using the weakest point of Half-Life (linear script) to say that Dragon's Lair was good because it shared that same weak point and took it to an extreme. Sorry, not a good comparison.
If you can get Beowulf running on those ZX81's ... it's all yours, I was gonna use Cobalt boxes.
I'll do it ... send via paypal to my /. username @ yahoo.com ...
"Mature" when it comes to games is having the ability to say "do you run Linux? Then run this installer." and not having to worry about which distribution it is.
If you can do that, or ignore all but one distribution, and:
* have a paying install base (ie, not total number of installs but number of people who are willing to pay for your software) at least as big as OSX
and
* can be reasonably well assured that people who have video cards they bought to play your game will have 3D graphics running smoothly -without- your help
The major distribution (as in games, not Linux) houses will pay attention to Linux in a significant way.
For now the ball is still in the court of the major Linux distros to get us to those places. They're working on things but it is not there yet. Will it be by 2006? Maybe, I am not convinced yet.
That's great if his ISP will set it up for him, but what happens to the -next- guy who wants to use those same ports? If they are forwarding to Joe#1, Joe#2 can not have those ports.
What part of "only broadband option" don't you understand?
... broadband is about low latency almost as much as fast speed) is 802.11b wireless. I'm lucky that my ISP doesn't filter or NAT me, but if they did I'd be stuck with them.
I sympathize, my only broadband option (sorry, satellite doesn't count to me
Come around my place for the holidays and you'll hear my father and uncle talk about one you missed: the wonders of VMS lexicals.
Humbug to the holidays, I say.
Honestly, is it such a big deal these days to dump your media onto a network store and -then- switch over to the emulated system?
I don't have this problem ;)
Nowadays most companies that contract with a retail distributor will often have to pay that distributor for -any- copies sold. Don't know if id is that way or not, but don't be surprised if so. They would probably still get a little more, but not significantly so.
Yep ... when taking the last job I had to interview for (my current job is from being aquired) I made sure to put a list of my current and planned future projects on my resume. Then when signing my employment agreement I added a clause that said "all items mentioned on my attached resume are and will continue to be my property".
:)
Now admittedly, my employer wasn't really looking to do the things I was listing, but hey, it was close enough. They initialed, I signed, and then I proceeded to piss away my time instead of working on those things
Yeah, because that worked so good for combatting televisions and cellphones :)
2 reasons, both predicated on the idea that it will happen with or without us.
1) If Open Source is a major player in the software for such things, we all have a better understanding of it.
For instance, do you really trust proprietary software to say "yes, I fried your tag, you may leave in peace" and actually do it, or do you wonder if it said that, but really just threw a "be silent when this guy walks out the door" to the tracking station that goes off if you leave without paying?
2) If Open Source is a major player, then the community has a much higher visibility for things like standards boards and oversight commities.
If GNU, Apache, Linux, etc and the very vocal proponents of such did not exist, I strongly doubt you'd see geeks and unix beards sitting at as many of the various levels of these things as you do now. It would be back to the backroom anticompetitive negotiations.
So do we just cave and accept RFID (or monopolistic software) wherever and whenever and however it creeps in? No, we continue to be active. But the world is grey. Good and Bad happens. Better than we are involved both ways than to give an inch.
Does no one else get routinely tired of .rpm files being seen as "audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin" when trying to download a new RPM package from a web site?
:)
I wish that by now there would have been a resolution between the two file types. Other than switching off an RPM distribution
Actually Sun has traditionally stocked R&D even when everything else is tight as McNealy feels the best way to come out of a slump is fighting. On that I'll give him credit ... though alot of other decisions have been flaky lately.
SunRay appliance firmware 2.0 is too slow to utilize over most broadband links. But firmware gets upgraded. And that's all I have to say about that.
IBM is working their way away from being dependent on AIX.
IBM doesn't depend on SuSE today, true, but what SuSE does right now is allow IBM to not be dependent on Red Hat. Take away that crutch (or at least be the one holding it) and IBM is in a less open position.
However, will it be as much of a burden to IBM to lose SuSE as paying 2.8Billion will be to Sun? I doubt it.
Do they blame the car owner if the thief breaks into the car and steals it?
No, they blame the thief. Go back and you'll see that's where I put the primary responsibility as well.
I didn't say pity Joe User, he gets on my nerves too. But put blame where blame belongs. And Microsoft is the one responsible for the software that -enables- those 3rd party malicious softwares to run without end users having a clue.
Sorry, but no, it's not criminal careless unless there are laws against it. You might find it unethical (I don't, since the user is not making a conscious decision to be abused by the virus) but the -user- is in no way the criminal.
Funny how you want to make the user a criminal, yet I'm the one trying to make the Internet a gated community.
And that virgin might not be innocent -after- that little stroll, but that doesn't mean she didn't go in innocently. Just means she doesn't know anything about Central Park, or she was on some amazing drugs. You imply that she is therefore somehow responsible for the actions of those around her. Hope you don't have a sister in NYC that likes acid.
Not true ... the appliance is not an X client at all.
:) The SunRay terminals have smart card interfaces.
... they know my ID here ;)
SunRay server software keeps framebuffers for multiple X sessions on the server. Those sessions are sent over the network via a completely different protocol from X. Very similar in high-level concept to VNC.
This allows some neat things, the neatest of which you also don't mention
To put in practical perspective (I almost skipped my Disclaimer: I work for Sun here since it should be painfully obvious), my employee ID badge is a smartcard that I can use for entrance to the building. When I get to my terminal I can plug that smartcard in before I log in. If I want to walk away, I pull my card and my session stays open on the server, but not on the terminal. I can walk to any other terminal in the building, plug it in, and my session pops onto the terminal. I can leave things running in the session, since it never dies. I don't -have- to use my smartcard. I can log in without it, but I lose portability for that session.
It is quite cool.
Now of course the OS needs support for smartcard stuff, so the easiest way -today- is to use Solaris SPARC, but put the smartcard framework on Linux and use the Linux SunRay Server software and voila, portable network Linux sessions (as you mentioned, but pointing out the portability).
Additionally, the SunRay terminals have USB connectors and audio. With proper support (it's being worked on) these will really enhance things.
There are other neat things that I really wanna talk about, but can't
Sorry, thank you ... absolutely right. And I should have known better because the whole time I was desparately wanting to type "the bus technology that DEC developed for the Alpha" :) I definitely think a modern MoBo with Hypertransport and multiple onboard Gb NICs would work, but it is probably not the solution this poster had.
Since the poster was using additional NICs from the way I read it, Hypertransport still wouldn't help though, so maybe I should have left those pieces out.
Either way, the poster didn't put enough details to really be able to help.
Damn, I knew I should have upgraded ...
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... it has nothing to do with the comparison. Why is it so hard for people to know how analogies work? There was nothing there on my bit or the part I was responding to that talked about recompensing the infected party. I don't know of an insurance for Joe User to pay for losses due to not backing up ... and that is where the analogy would have to go. Sorry, pet peeve.
a) how will the insurance company know the doors were unlocked? I'll lock them if I have to. The only way they'll know that the doors were unlocked would be if you came in and told them, admitting to the crime, and then I wouldn't need insurance, I'd just sue you directly. Plus, your admittance would probably be enough for the insurance company since it was still damage done on my insured property (and guess what, I've been through something similar and yes, they did pay and they did know my shed was unlocked because it -had- no lock).
b) I never said anything about insurance companies
c) it is only my responsibility to set my alarm if I have one -and- if my insurance rates are adjusted because of the presence of the alarm.
d) Let us say the victim bought a new house (computer) with new locks and alarm (firewall, virus scanner) and he properly used the locks and alarm (installed Windows, installed the software, allowed the software to autoupdate definition files). Are you saying he took zero precautions? Sorry, he should be able to do those things without worrying day in and day out if some new virus hasn't been analyzed by his virus software vendor and/or firewall admin. If he disables these protections, yes, zero precautions, but given how many systems come from the OEM with these things built-in, the end user should not need to worry about it. It is not Joe User's fault that simply by opening an email message or browser window he can be infected. Not his fault, he is simply using the software as designed. Fault in this case is, again, the software manufacturer and primarily the virus author.