It doesn't help when Conroy is so dismissive of anyone who has a valid point to argue or at least discuss in a neutral or negative light in respect to the idea of compulsory internet censorship.
see this & read from 3/4 the way down page 77 through to 3/4 or so the way down page 83. Here's a snippet of how dismissive the guy gets when anyone decides to rationally approach him with a question (from page 81 & 82). It also approaches the whole idea of the "slippery slope", once we start, where and when do we stop, if ever?
Senator LUDLAMâ"What about, for another controversial example, euthanasia related material? Senator Conroyâ"You would have to ask them whether that falls within their definition. There are calls for, as an example, banning pro anorexia websites. Again, it falls into that sort of category. So there are calls for a whole range of material to be included in the black list, but I do not think that they fall inside the existing definitions under the law. I do not think that they are caught. Senator LUDLAMâ"Can you then see the basis on which some people might be raising concerns that once we have such a list it can go from being a black list to a very grey list very quickly, depending on how much the government thinks should be filtered. It is almost reversing the burden of proof, which is a very different approach to sending law enforcement agencies after people who are postingâ" Senator Conroyâ"I do not agree with the basis of your assertion that we haveâ" Senator LUDLAMâ"You have not heard the assertion. Senator Conroyâ"You said it basically reverses the onus of proof. I do not agree. Mr Rizviâ"The ACMA black list has been around for quite a number of years now. It is not a new list. Senator LUDLAMâ"I suppose what is new is having complicated automated software deciding what Australians can and cannot see on the net. The black list, as the minister is rightly pointing out, can become very grey depending on how expansive the list becomesâ"euthanasia material, politically related material, material about anorexia. There is a lot of distasteful stuff on the internet. Senator Conroyâ"Existing provisions under the Broadcasting Services Act 1992 are able to deal with suicide related material that provides detailed instruction or promotion of matters of crime or violence. It is an existing law.
Ah feck, i had a whole referenced thing typed out and even copied into buffer, yet i logged in and lost the f*#&$ing lot. I can't blame the internet filter..... yet.
Personally i think it's a bunch of cock and the world would be a better place without Senator Conroy or the Family First political party.
I know nearly nothing about hockey, on ice or otherwise, but i've heard that slapshot phrase before.
Never entered my mind as a possibility that that was what they were talking about, but it's the only idea i've come across that could remotely explain it. Then again just going to the homepage of/. gives you a good idea this is all about IT, even my missus could identify this site as one of my "geek sites" with barely a two second glance at the page.
I did a similar thing myself, and weighing in the cost of hardware versus cost of poser consumed was something else i took into consideration.
i ended up getting 4x 500gb Western Digital drives, only one of which was a greenpower drive, the rest are standard WD's from just before they came out (difference is 3watts idle power versus 5watts for the non green hdd, 6w vs 7-8w for the platters spinning. Also i've been told that the green-drives auto spins down if not used in 15 minutes or so. Combined with a generic 80gig hdd for the OS drive, and thats
For the motherboard i looked into what i was using (duron 1200) and figured i could do better than the 35-ish watts it consumed when idle just for the cpu (where it would spend 90% of its time) and 60W at full tilt, neither of these values takes into account the chipset or any additional hardware like motherboards, hard drives or add-in cards. I ended up buying a VIA pc-1000 1Ghz C3 micro-atx motherboard (it can fit one PCI slot, has space for 1x ddr1 ram slot) and threw that in. Idle power consumption has now dropped to about 6-8w for the motherboard making the whole system now run at about 25w when idle.
Regarding the monitor? well i just use a KVM and the monitor its plugged into is usually turned off anyway, so theres a whole heap less power right there.
I tried free-nas, didn't work for me, same for openfiler, then again im starting to suspect i bought a bad batch of cd-r media, and may try using a new spindle i bought the other day. Currently it has Fedora 9 on there and is also running squid proxy too.
Building a mythtv box was a rewarding project, It took me a helluva lot of time to get mine working, due to a combination of things popping up challenges. A few false starts aside, once i got it working and configured it didn't take very long at all to get the thing working, and working well at that.
The capture card i was using (dont bother with a leadtek rm2000 card, it just doesnt tune the signal, at least in Australia, and i tried) wouldnt play ball. Eventually i got a Dvico hdtv/dvb card working after upgrading to a kernel with a compatability patch and now have three of them in the box. They work fantastically, just remember to insert the dvb_#chipset# frontend module AFTER all the backends have loaded.
Getting a low powered (read that as "old, fanless and silent") video card working with tv out was a challenge (eventually i found a geforce 440mx did the trick nicely, not the fastest, but i dont do HD that often), don't try ATI or Radeon, you'll do your head in trying, just use a Nvidia card with a 4x or 5x generation chipset and you'll be fine.
On top of that, having to navigate the whole getting mythfilldatabase working (i got it working then minnie.tuhs.org had a content format change which moved the goalposts and gave major headaches,I just went to shepherd instead.
Now my only problem is that mythfilldatabase doesn't run correctly from cron (major major pita) and i have to run it manually every three or four days.
Was it worth it? hell yes, my mrs uses it as often if not more than i do and the interface (using the remote) is quite manageable even for her , who uses it purely as an appliance. Usually the only time anything breaks is because i was foolish enough to try and tweak something to improve it and ended up screwing up the very next recording.
I've learned my lesson, i do any tweaks (scheduled outages?) on my days off, when i have a few hours to fix it if i mess up badly. Oh and i don't modify it unless i must absolutely do so. Which reminds me, mythdora 5.0 came out, which although tempting just to go from mythtv 0.20 to 0.21 i am loathe to do as i really don't want to screw with this thing as its working 99% reliably at the moment.
Food for thought guys, frustrating as it gets at times, it was *really* rewarding to get it working.
well compare the Low power Celeron M compared to the VIA in this wiki article. Im sure the processor list needs to be updated, but you can get a fair idea of power consumption from this article.
I bought one of the Via C7 1GHz boards to run as a ultra low powered NAS server the other day, it ended up costing me $50AU posted (which is like $53US at the moment). As much as i'd love to keep getting the latest and greatest like this thing (which looks pretty damned nice). I guess i had to commit and buy something at some point, and at the price i paid, i got it dirt cheap.
On the downside the board i got didn't have onboard SATA (which i knew when i bought it, but for $50 i could live with that compromise). I guess i'll have to put a SATA controller card in the pci slot.
I still haven't figured out what to run on it, i was leaning towards FreeNAS, but i'll give a few things a shot before i settle for something.
Oh and regarding 10/100 vs Gig-e? my switch doesn't do Gig-e so that was never a real concern for me.
Thats assuming you can find a 110km/h zone. 110 zones are like hens teeth on that stretch of bitumen. If your not in a 110 zone when doing 110, you've got bigger problems, like say your head exploding for going 3km/h over the limit.... Oh wait, this isn't Victoria, so it's a lesser evil, barely...
to use the/. "easy steps" method: 1) be a pilot 2) get the shits about being blinded by idiots messing around with lasers. 3) report it to the media 4) wait for them to whip up a frenzy and goad the government until they have to be seen to do *something* 5) profit!
In all seriousness this is of a deterrent value, and one that i do not like whatsoever. I may or may not have a laser, and if i did, there is no f*#&#ing way i would ever point it at a plane. I'm just not stupid or sadistic enough to try it out.
You remember sold.com.au ? that used to be owned/run by fairfax, however they made the mistake of selling it to ebay. It shortly vanished afterwards (which is a shame as i vastly preferred it to ebay).
When i look for things i now look at oztion and aussiebid before i look for it on ebay. I think in future i might try and avoid buying on ebay within Australia and stick to using it for international purchases only.
I hope they seriously get burned by this as it is a daft daft policy change, at least half of the things i buy i only use direct deposit to purchase..
Alas you beat me to using a "tubes" reference, good day to you sir.
Aside from the issues with logistics and the whole impact on the USA's beloved "freedom" (im not from the us, so i use this term loosely) the repercussions this thing would have for all sorts of other traffic if this thing EVER got off the ground, is horrifying.
The other disgusting thing about this is if they did try and push it forward, imagine the sheer cost of putting this thing together, even if they find halfway trough it isn't feasable and have to shelve it. Just remember when they say "it'll cost a billion" i would say its a safe bet that you could double that figure, what a waste.
this reminds me of the whole half assed "movie / game classification" situation/joke.
Now the current ratings here are G (General Exhibition), PG (Parental Guideance), MA15+ (Mature Audiences of 15 years or older), MA (Mature Audiences, do we even USE this rating anymore?), R (Restricted, 18+ only) and X (Nuthin but T, A & jiggly bits). Currently games here are *refused* classification if they don't meet the MA15+ rating. So there's a whole raft of games that we dont get here due to the naffheads in the Office of Film and Literature Classification having issue with adult themes in games. Personally its another step in the direction of "wont somebody think of the children", when personally i think it is up to the PARENTS to teach about such things, and they should face the repercussions for these things. I really don't see why anything imported to our shores should be modified because we are the "special child" in the worlds classroom.
b.t.w. sorry that turned into a rant, but shit like this just disgusts me.
thanks for that, it opened my eyes on the confusing as hell parlimentary system we have. It's still confusing now, but with different shades of grey to before.
p.s. theres nothing wrong with a family first kinda guy being the PM, except when something controversial comes up (i suspect Rudd would have binned the ru486 drug like Howard did). In any case it's when these unusual situations crop up that we'll see just how good/bad a PM we now have in front of us.
i have no idea where you get your brakes discs from, but i suspect that they are a helluva lot cheaper than they are here.
"skimming" the brakes is only really done to remove any irregularities in the disc itself, unless some gravel gets caught in there the only time you'd ever have to worry about such a thing is either a) by wearing them down smoothly enough that there's a lip or b) you let the pads get down to the metal.
if you want expensive brake discs, then you should try motorcycle brakes, now THOSE things are expensive at AT LEAST 5x the 22 quid per corner you have to fork out for your citroen, and thats just for a average performance bike with 5-7mm thin discs, perhaps with the floating mounting, but usually not including them.
to get even MORE off topic there are some one man bleed kits out there which consist of the hose (and a y adapter for those of you with dual piston brakes), it consists of a long hose going to a bottle with a spring & ball bearing in it, the fluid forces its way past the ball bearing/spring pressure, but the spring ensures no air is able to make its way back to the caliper. It meant i could bleed my rear drums (yeah my car has rear drums:-( ) in under 10 minutes per side (not including mucking about with jacking the car up, taking the wheel off, blah blah blah).
I got it for maintaining my bikes, but it has proven itself useful time & time again whenever i've needed to do any brakes/hydraulic clutch.
ive never heard of trading in calipers like that either, alternators yes, engines, yes, gearboxes yes and even air conditioner compressors, but never calipers!!!!
Meanwhile, bleeding/renewing the brake fluid at LEAST at when you change the brakes is the minimum you should be doing. Hell knows what condition the fluid is in. Oh and something people dont thing of that often is bleeding/renewing the clutch fluid, that stuff is closer to the motor and can get pretty disgusting pretty quickly.
(I would buy an iPod, but then I would have to use iTunes, and sadly I like the choice of software players and choice of music stores. I guess I'm just old fashioned in not going for the Orwell 1984 concept of who controls my songs and what I listen to them on and where I buy them.)
you could use one of the alternates to itunes, if you can be bothered paying, Anapod is good, and has a good integration into windows. ephpod is a good freeware alternate, but like anything free, you have to get used to its quirks to work through the program smoothly.
Hell until i offered to move all my girlfriends mp3's from her mini to her new video ipod, i had never even USED an ipod, and taking that into account, it took me a max of 3-4 hours to be able to move around efficiently in ephpod & work the damned ipod itself. So if you know what your doing, should be a peice of cake.
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It doesn't help when Conroy is so dismissive of anyone who has a valid point to argue or at least discuss in a neutral or negative light in respect to the idea of compulsory internet censorship.
see this & read from 3/4 the way down page 77 through to 3/4 or so the way down page 83. Here's a snippet of how dismissive the guy gets when anyone decides to rationally approach him with a question (from page 81 & 82). It also approaches the whole idea of the "slippery slope", once we start, where and when do we stop, if ever?
Senator LUDLAMâ"What about, for another controversial example, euthanasia related material?
Senator Conroyâ"You would have to ask them whether that falls within their definition. There are calls for,
as an example, banning pro anorexia websites. Again, it falls into that sort of category. So there are calls for a
whole range of material to be included in the black list, but I do not think that they fall inside the existing
definitions under the law. I do not think that they are caught.
Senator LUDLAMâ"Can you then see the basis on which some people might be raising concerns that once
we have such a list it can go from being a black list to a very grey list very quickly, depending on how much
the government thinks should be filtered. It is almost reversing the burden of proof, which is a very different
approach to sending law enforcement agencies after people who are postingâ"
Senator Conroyâ"I do not agree with the basis of your assertion that we haveâ"
Senator LUDLAMâ"You have not heard the assertion.
Senator Conroyâ"You said it basically reverses the onus of proof. I do not agree.
Mr Rizviâ"The ACMA black list has been around for quite a number of years now. It is not a new list.
Senator LUDLAMâ"I suppose what is new is having complicated automated software deciding what
Australians can and cannot see on the net. The black list, as the minister is rightly pointing out, can become
very grey depending on how expansive the list becomesâ"euthanasia material, politically related material,
material about anorexia. There is a lot of distasteful stuff on the internet.
Senator Conroyâ"Existing provisions under the Broadcasting Services Act 1992 are able to deal with
suicide related material that provides detailed instruction or promotion of matters of crime or violence. It is an
existing law.
Ah feck, i had a whole referenced thing typed out and even copied into buffer, yet i logged in and lost the f*#&$ing lot. I can't blame the internet filter..... yet.
Personally i think it's a bunch of cock and the world would be a better place without Senator Conroy or the Family First political party.
Just remember. No matter who you vote for, a politician still gets in.
I know nearly nothing about hockey, on ice or otherwise, but i've heard that slapshot phrase before.
Never entered my mind as a possibility that that was what they were talking about, but it's the only idea i've come across that could remotely explain it. Then again just going to the homepage of /. gives you a good idea this is all about IT, even my missus could identify this site as one of my "geek sites" with barely a two second glance at the page.
oh and Hockeydot.org? not bad, not bad at all.
Smart arse muthafu
I did a similar thing myself, and weighing in the cost of hardware versus cost of poser consumed was something else i took into consideration.
i ended up getting 4x 500gb Western Digital drives, only one of which was a greenpower drive, the rest are standard WD's from just before they came out (difference is 3watts idle power versus 5watts for the non green hdd, 6w vs 7-8w for the platters spinning. Also i've been told that the green-drives auto spins down if not used in 15 minutes or so. Combined with a generic 80gig hdd for the OS drive, and thats
For the motherboard i looked into what i was using (duron 1200) and figured i could do better than the 35-ish watts it consumed when idle just for the cpu (where it would spend 90% of its time) and 60W at full tilt, neither of these values takes into account the chipset or any additional hardware like motherboards, hard drives or add-in cards. I ended up buying a VIA pc-1000 1Ghz C3 micro-atx motherboard (it can fit one PCI slot, has space for 1x ddr1 ram slot) and threw that in. Idle power consumption has now dropped to about 6-8w for the motherboard making the whole system now run at about 25w when idle.
Regarding the monitor? well i just use a KVM and the monitor its plugged into is usually turned off anyway, so theres a whole heap less power right there.
I tried free-nas, didn't work for me, same for openfiler, then again im starting to suspect i bought a bad batch of cd-r media, and may try using a new spindle i bought the other day. Currently it has Fedora 9 on there and is also running squid proxy too.
*boom*tish*
Nice!! thanks for that, downloading the iso as we speak.
Building a mythtv box was a rewarding project, It took me a helluva lot of time to get mine working, due to a combination of things popping up challenges. A few false starts aside, once i got it working and configured it didn't take very long at all to get the thing working, and working well at that.
The capture card i was using (dont bother with a leadtek rm2000 card, it just doesnt tune the signal, at least in Australia, and i tried) wouldnt play ball. Eventually i got a Dvico hdtv/dvb card working after upgrading to a kernel with a compatability patch and now have three of them in the box. They work fantastically, just remember to insert the dvb_#chipset# frontend module AFTER all the backends have loaded.
Getting a low powered (read that as "old, fanless and silent") video card working with tv out was a challenge (eventually i found a geforce 440mx did the trick nicely, not the fastest, but i dont do HD that often), don't try ATI or Radeon, you'll do your head in trying, just use a Nvidia card with a 4x or 5x generation chipset and you'll be fine.
On top of that, having to navigate the whole getting mythfilldatabase working (i got it working then minnie.tuhs.org had a content format change which moved the goalposts and gave major headaches,I just went to shepherd instead.
Now my only problem is that mythfilldatabase doesn't run correctly from cron (major major pita) and i have to run it manually every three or four days.
Was it worth it? hell yes, my mrs uses it as often if not more than i do and the interface (using the remote) is quite manageable even for her , who uses it purely as an appliance. Usually the only time anything breaks is because i was foolish enough to try and tweak something to improve it and ended up screwing up the very next recording.
I've learned my lesson, i do any tweaks (scheduled outages?) on my days off, when i have a few hours to fix it if i mess up badly. Oh and i don't modify it unless i must absolutely do so. Which reminds me, mythdora 5.0 came out, which although tempting just to go from mythtv 0.20 to 0.21 i am loathe to do as i really don't want to screw with this thing as its working 99% reliably at the moment.
Food for thought guys, frustrating as it gets at times, it was *really* rewarding to get it working.
gah, i shoulda previewed this, Via link here
well compare the Low power Celeron M compared to the VIA in this wiki article. Im sure the processor list needs to be updated, but you can get a fair idea of power consumption from this article.
I bought one of the Via C7 1GHz boards to run as a ultra low powered NAS server the other day, it ended up costing me $50AU posted (which is like $53US at the moment). As much as i'd love to keep getting the latest and greatest like this thing (which looks pretty damned nice). I guess i had to commit and buy something at some point, and at the price i paid, i got it dirt cheap.
On the downside the board i got didn't have onboard SATA (which i knew when i bought it, but for $50 i could live with that compromise). I guess i'll have to put a SATA controller card in the pci slot.
I still haven't figured out what to run on it, i was leaning towards FreeNAS, but i'll give a few things a shot before i settle for something.
Oh and regarding 10/100 vs Gig-e? my switch doesn't do Gig-e so that was never a real concern for me.
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Thats assuming you can find a 110km/h zone. 110 zones are like hens teeth on that stretch of bitumen. If your not in a 110 zone when doing 110, you've got bigger problems, like say your head exploding for going 3km/h over the limit.... Oh wait, this isn't Victoria, so it's a lesser evil, barely...
to use the /. "easy steps" method:
1) be a pilot
2) get the shits about being blinded by idiots messing around with lasers.
3) report it to the media
4) wait for them to whip up a frenzy and goad the government until they have to be seen to do *something*
5) profit!
In all seriousness this is of a deterrent value, and one that i do not like whatsoever. I may or may not have a laser, and if i did, there is no f*#&#ing way i would ever point it at a plane. I'm just not stupid or sadistic enough to try it out.
You remember sold.com.au ? that used to be owned/run by fairfax, however they made the mistake of selling it to ebay. It shortly vanished afterwards (which is a shame as i vastly preferred it to ebay).
When i look for things i now look at oztion and aussiebid before i look for it on ebay. I think in future i might try and avoid buying on ebay within Australia and stick to using it for international purchases only.
I hope they seriously get burned by this as it is a daft daft policy change, at least half of the things i buy i only use direct deposit to purchase..
Alas you beat me to using a "tubes" reference, good day to you sir.
Aside from the issues with logistics and the whole impact on the USA's beloved "freedom" (im not from the us, so i use this term loosely) the repercussions this thing would have for all sorts of other traffic if this thing EVER got off the ground, is horrifying.
The other disgusting thing about this is if they did try and push it forward, imagine the sheer cost of putting this thing together, even if they find halfway trough it isn't feasable and have to shelve it. Just remember when they say "it'll cost a billion" i would say its a safe bet that you could double that figure, what a waste.
My Money is on contractual obligations with AT&T to put in a "best effort" to attempt to stop these unlockings.
games banned in Australia
Office of Film and Literature Classification
bah that'll teach me to hit submit before proofreading / posting at 2am.
on a further note this kind of reflects my point precisely
games banned in Australia
Office of Film and Literature Classification
this reminds me of the whole half assed "movie / game classification" situation/joke.
Now the current ratings here are G (General Exhibition), PG (Parental Guideance), MA15+ (Mature Audiences of 15 years or older), MA (Mature Audiences, do we even USE this rating anymore?), R (Restricted, 18+ only) and X (Nuthin but T, A & jiggly bits). Currently games here are *refused* classification if they don't meet the MA15+ rating. So there's a whole raft of games that we dont get here due to the naffheads in the Office of Film and Literature Classification having issue with adult themes in games. Personally its another step in the direction of "wont somebody think of the children", when personally i think it is up to the PARENTS to teach about such things, and they should face the repercussions for these things. I really don't see why anything imported to our shores should be modified because we are the "special child" in the worlds classroom.
b.t.w. sorry that turned into a rant, but shit like this just disgusts me.
thanks for that, it opened my eyes on the confusing as hell parlimentary system we have. It's still confusing now, but with different shades of grey to before.
p.s. theres nothing wrong with a family first kinda guy being the PM, except when something controversial comes up (i suspect Rudd would have binned the ru486 drug like Howard did). In any case it's when these unusual situations crop up that we'll see just how good/bad a PM we now have in front of us.
Mike.
i have no idea where you get your brakes discs from, but i suspect that they are a helluva lot cheaper than they are here.
"skimming" the brakes is only really done to remove any irregularities in the disc itself, unless some gravel gets caught in there the only time you'd ever have to worry about such a thing is either a) by wearing them down smoothly enough that there's a lip or b) you let the pads get down to the metal.
if you want expensive brake discs, then you should try motorcycle brakes, now THOSE things are expensive at AT LEAST 5x the 22 quid per corner you have to fork out for your citroen, and thats just for a average performance bike with 5-7mm thin discs, perhaps with the floating mounting, but usually not including them.
man this has really gotten off topic.
to get even MORE off topic there are some one man bleed kits out there which consist of the hose (and a y adapter for those of you with dual piston brakes), it consists of a long hose going to a bottle with a spring & ball bearing in it, the fluid forces its way past the ball bearing/spring pressure, but the spring ensures no air is able to make its way back to the caliper. It meant i could bleed my rear drums (yeah my car has rear drums :-( ) in under 10 minutes per side (not including mucking about with jacking the car up, taking the wheel off, blah blah blah).
I got it for maintaining my bikes, but it has proven itself useful time & time again whenever i've needed to do any brakes/hydraulic clutch.
ive never heard of trading in calipers like that either, alternators yes, engines, yes, gearboxes yes and even air conditioner compressors, but never calipers!!!!
Meanwhile, bleeding/renewing the brake fluid at LEAST at when you change the brakes is the minimum you should be doing. Hell knows what condition the fluid is in. Oh and something people dont thing of that often is bleeding/renewing the clutch fluid, that stuff is closer to the motor and can get pretty disgusting pretty quickly.
oh and merry fricking christmas!!!
(I would buy an iPod, but then I would have to use iTunes, and sadly I like the choice of software players and choice of music stores. I guess I'm just old fashioned in not going for the Orwell 1984 concept of who controls my songs and what I listen to them on and where I buy them.) you could use one of the alternates to itunes, if you can be bothered paying, Anapod is good, and has a good integration into windows. ephpod is a good freeware alternate, but like anything free, you have to get used to its quirks to work through the program smoothly. Hell until i offered to move all my girlfriends mp3's from her mini to her new video ipod, i had never even USED an ipod, and taking that into account, it took me a max of 3-4 hours to be able to move around efficiently in ephpod & work the damned ipod itself. So if you know what your doing, should be a peice of cake.