But, as she put it, "Unless you can show me the IP of the person that did the hack I won't believe we were hacked."
It didn't matter if we got the IP or not, she just didn't want to be bothered with it.
After the 12th time, we got pretty good at reloading the site everyother day as a matter of habit. Its true, some people just don't care how many times they get hacked. I got tired of hearing, "Just restore from the back-ups and do your job." So I did them one better. I got a job elsewhere.
The thing that really pisses me off are the simpering brainless F*ucks that feel they need the Gov't or some political action committee to protect them from every sharp corner, dip in road, anything that could even remotely be thought of violent, item on this planet. Just when did we as a people suddenly become such pussies that we can't cross a street without the Gov't or some PAC to step in and help us?
Just where did we suddenly feel the need to have everything pureed, filtered, watered-down and spoon fed us?
I grew up with cap pistols, GI Joe, making my own fireworks, watching Vietnam brought into the home on the nightly news, real guns in the home, deer hunting, fishing, camping, playing Doom, Wolfenstien and I still have yet to end up in a clock-tower with a rifle.
When did we go from a nation built on strength and a "can do" attitude to "save me from myself"?
It's not so much that the toys are dangerous or should be avoided. If anything a parent should be aware of what they are buying their kids, or what the kids are buying themselves. Talk to your kids. Ask them if they understand that killing is only okay in a game and not in "real life." Just do a reality check on your kids and be a part in their lives.
Like most people, I don't plan on using the TV as a babysitter. Since they are my kids, I will try to monitor what they watch and when I know what they can deal with and understand, only then will I move from the "kiddie" shows to something stronger in content.
Granted, I don't think that every 8 year old should be listening to "Kid Rock" or someone like him, but if I feel that my child can understand and deal with the content of the music then that is a choice I will make.
It's the same for toys. If I feel my child has a firm grip on what is right or wrong and was brought up with a good set of values, then I'll let him/her play with these toys.
Can we then launch rockets of greenhouse gasses to Mars in order to speed up the process?
If so, we could then begin to terraform the planet by sending probes with seeds or plants which can then begin growing once the temperature gets to a normal range.
Then we could start a colony and clone really cute women that love geeks and then...
For once the Justice Department didn't step in it.
I for one have wanted to shout to the world about my former employer and the bulls*it stunts she pulled but knew that she had her "yes-borgs" reading F*ckedCompany and others just looking for posts. It's good to know that peoples personal opinions are exactly that. Opinions. And not grounds for slander.
How many times in the past have governments tried to control what their citizens see, hear, and read?
It doesn't work. You just create a new industry of underground news and information. I'm sure given time this will come back to bite them on the butt. As some form of Human Rights violation or something else. But face it. When the gov't tries to control the media, it's because they're worried that you will figure out that your gov't sucks and demand change. The only thing this does is slow down the change, and in many times force a more violent change when it comes. (i.e. coup, revolution)
It's time that gov'ts start reading the writing on the wall instead of trying to cover it with paint.
Maybe if geeks carried guns they'd be nicer to each other?
I doubt it. You'd prolly have more dead geeks and workplace shootings.
Most of the geeks I know get passionate about their work. And when account-borgs get annoying you're going to get gunplay.
My guess is that it depends on where you work. If your company goes the extra step to make the workplace a good place to be, make the effort to reward employees for even the smallest things, then you won't get much back-stabbing.
I too hate badly written code. But I take a great deal of joy in hacking up somone's mess and turning it into a gem.
My current co-workers and I get together now and then for beers after work. But I tend to see more of my former co-workers.
Now, when someone else escapes from the place we all used to work we get together to celibrate the escape of the new person. There is even a mailing list for former employees where we can all trade stories, gripes, complaints, and horror stories of our former employer. It's a great way to heal from having worked for one of the demons from the seven gates of hell.
credit me when I get a wrong number on my cell phone, or do I still have to argue with the phone company that I shouldn't be charged for the incoming wrong number to my phone?
I'm all for the new whistles and bells that they've been sticking into the new phones, full color displays, better batterytime, etc. But I just wish that they'd spend just as much on improving the customer service.
You seem to have left out the stores of Nerve Gas in Oregon.
Anyone who thinks that the US Govt didn't do any research into Bio-warfare should crawl back under the rock they've been hiding under. There always has been and always will be the covert research into this kind of thing. If anything, we as a global people should be aware that there is always the possibility for someone to release some bug on the world.
Should we be frightened? No. Should we be alert to what is going on around us? Yes. We should be prepared for it, expect it, and work to make sure that it doesn't happen. The world has changed, and we just need to realise that the unthinkable might just happen.
Somehow I just don't think that an episode of The Soprano's would convey the same weight as Soprano's "lite".
But for those folks with kids, this would be a great way to expose the kids to great movies/TV without the need to lock away every tape or disk you own. As it stands now, for me at least, I have to keep two sets. A mommy and daddy group kept locked away (The Soprano's, any movie with a high bullet or body count) and the "G" rated stuff for the kids.
The only trouble is explaining to the wife why I need a "new toy."
I'd love to send a couple dozen copies to my former employer.
She'd surround herself with lots of smart folks and then just ignore what they had to say.
It might also explain the 50% turn-over rate thay have.
However, The one thing about books like these is that the "folks in charge" won't read them. As a front line techie building websites, we often have to explain to the account reps the why and how things work on the internet. No matter how many times you tell them that it's not "business as usual" and that the "if you build it, they will come" mentality is off base, they still want things their way.
In many ways I wish things were like it was two years ago. Far too many stupid people willing to throw money at a project. Now, it seems that they've all gone the way of the dinosaur.
Thank god for the brochureware sites or I'd be out of a job!
Now I may be completely wrong, but I thought the US Government put a stop to the rental or "try-it before you buy-it" software. If DVD's are ruled as software, would that mean that Blockbuster and Hollywood Video would no longer be able to rent DVD's?
Now wouldn't that put one hell of a dent in the motion picture industry!
"Liked the Movie? Sorry, but you'll have to buy it if you want to see it again. Unless you want to rent the low res VHS tape.
These folks are the makers of the FMD (Fluorescent Multi-layer Disc) that will have storage amounts of 20 - 100 Gigabytes of data on a regular sized CD (120mm). With retrieval speeds of up to 1gigabit/second, this might be an option for you.
Although they have not yet released a product for the public to buy, they might be interested in your problem. They are currently working on being the new standard for Video disks and HDTV disks.
It's a microsoft site and you want to use a non-Microsoft product to view the site?
How dare you!
But then why should it be different. They want to be the end-all, be-all, company of the world. I mean why would a company that is "NOT" a monopoly allow visitors to deprive themselves of the full experiance of visiting their site just because they use a "second rate" browser.
I even found that some areas of the site don't work on a Mac. (script errors)
The simple reason is because they are a monopoly.
They won't rest until the only software you use is theirs.
And every roadblock that they can put in your way will only strenghten that fact.
My guess is that if they could they would have one of their guys run for President.
One Country, of MicroSoft, by MicroSoft, and for MicroSoft.
I'm still surprised that Windows XP wasn't called Windows Dominator.
It states in the article that the kids have the option of being programmers or being helped into colleges and other programs. Any intercity program that helps lower the crime rate, murder rate, gang membership is a good thing. Helping kids help themselves into being an asset to society instead of a number in a prison is not something to take lightly.
Everyone at some point in their life had some sort of influence that helped them along. Be it advice from a teacher, some news story or article, parent, or friend it got you where you are today. I see nothing wrong with giving these kids a different path to follow. In the end it will be up to the kid. If he/she stays the course and changes their life or fails. I'm just glad that someone is trying to help.
How many other times have parent companies closed "lesser" earning holdings so that they can take a tax write-off on the "failing" business to off-set the windfall profits they made earlier in the year. The business world sucks because everything comes down to the bottom line. How much money can we make for our own pockets and our stockholders. I've been on both sides of this and when it was money in my pocket I raved about how good business is. After being on the consumer side of things, it blows.
How many of us were changing our Telco's weekly when they were passing out checks to switch? I must have bounced between MCI, ATT, and Sprint five or six times in one month. But when the checks stopped I went with the lowest costing company.
Yes, it's frustrating, but until someone comes up with a better idea I think it will continue.
Nobody likes to be searched/suspected of wrong doing if there isn't a "good" reason. But as several have pointed out, the person in question works for the NIH. Since nobody seems to know where the Anthrax is coming from, it would seem that searches would be in order. But I also know how if feels from a personal point of view.
A former employer didn't trust any of her employees. She snooped e-mails, web usage, phone calls, computers, and desks of anyone who spoke of quitting or who had given notice. But then she was/is psychotic.
The only thing I can offer is this. During this time of need, deal with it. If you don't like it, quit. It's that simple.
You pretend that you're five years old. You release crappy code that's full of bugs and holes into the marketplace, and rather than own up to the fact that it's bad from the get-go, you point the blame at someone else and call it terrorism.
Gee. When I was a kid and tried to pass the blame for something I did I got sent to bed without my dinner.
Being that they're a huge corporation, in Microsoft's case I'd settle for them simply fixing their crappy code.
But to hide behind the law instead of trying to correct your code leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Sure. I don't expect it to be bullet-proof, but at least it should be more secure than it is. The reason they get targeted as much as they do is because of the attitude they have for the public.
They must think that everyone is some sort of slack-jawed drooling simpleton that will blindly accept anything that placed in front of them. Sorry to dissappoint you Bill. But when we use your products, there is a certain amount of security and functionality expected. If there wasn't, then why do you think we all complain each time a new hole or flaw is found?
The cable company does the same thing with the decoder boxes, as do many cities with their water meters. They force you to use their crap and then bill you up the wahzoo until the end of time. On the business side, it's great. Folks paying hundreds of dollars over time for something that cost very little. On the consumer end, it sucks. You have zero choice if you want the service, and you will keep paying the money because there isn't anything else you can do.
Microsoft hopes to put this same tried and true method of earning money to use with your computer. If you look at the situation with the telco's and TV cable ccompanies. Innovation, better service, and more choice came about once there was a choice between telco's and TV service. If you didn't want TCI or Time Warner you went with a dish. If you don't like AT&T, there is Sprint or MCI. The problem with the computer industry is the limited choices between MAC OS, Linux, and Windows to name a few.
Once MS squeezes out any other choice for OS or for Internet access (.NET or Hailstorm) we will all suffer and have no other choice than to pay MS whatever they want.
After all. What was the last innovative thing to come out of MS? Nothing. They've only been "Improving" their exsisting software. They don't have any innovations, so the only thing left is to narrow the field and leave you no other option than to pay them.
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The owner was told many times of hacks.
But, as she put it, "Unless you can show me the IP of the person that did the hack I won't believe we were hacked."
It didn't matter if we got the IP or not, she just didn't want to be bothered with it.
After the 12th time, we got pretty good at reloading the site everyother day as a matter of habit. Its true, some people just don't care how many times they get hacked. I got tired of hearing, "Just restore from the back-ups and do your job." So I did them one better. I got a job elsewhere.
Goran
But for some reason the Christmas Story is running through my mind when I was reading this.
Let's see...
A big mother power plant on the moon beaming back the energy to the earth.
My Eye!! Ow! My eye!!
So what is to protect the area around the earth-bound receiving station from "leekage"?
Wouldn't there be a huge possibility of damage from any waves that "miss" the receiving station?
I'm sorry, but I just know that somebody is going to put their eye out with that thing.
Goran
The thing that really pisses me off are the simpering brainless F*ucks that feel they need the Gov't or some political action committee to protect them from every sharp corner, dip in road, anything that could even remotely be thought of violent, item on this planet. Just when did we as a people suddenly become such pussies that we can't cross a street without the Gov't or some PAC to step in and help us?
Just where did we suddenly feel the need to have everything pureed, filtered, watered-down and spoon fed us?
I grew up with cap pistols, GI Joe, making my own fireworks, watching Vietnam brought into the home on the nightly news, real guns in the home, deer hunting, fishing, camping, playing Doom, Wolfenstien and I still have yet to end up in a clock-tower with a rifle.
When did we go from a nation built on strength and a "can do" attitude to "save me from myself"?
It's not so much that the toys are dangerous or should be avoided. If anything a parent should be aware of what they are buying their kids, or what the kids are buying themselves. Talk to your kids. Ask them if they understand that killing is only okay in a game and not in "real life." Just do a reality check on your kids and be a part in their lives.
Like most people, I don't plan on using the TV as a babysitter. Since they are my kids, I will try to monitor what they watch and when I know what they can deal with and understand, only then will I move from the "kiddie" shows to something stronger in content.
Granted, I don't think that every 8 year old should be listening to "Kid Rock" or someone like him, but if I feel that my child can understand and deal with the content of the music then that is a choice I will make.
It's the same for toys. If I feel my child has a firm grip on what is right or wrong and was brought up with a good set of values, then I'll let him/her play with these toys.
IMHO the real point is to be a parent.
Just my take on the matter.
Goran
Can we then launch rockets of greenhouse gasses to Mars in order to speed up the process?
If so, we could then begin to terraform the planet by sending probes with seeds or plants which can then begin growing once the temperature gets to a normal range.
Then we could start a colony and clone really cute women that love geeks and then...
whoops.
Sorry.
Got ahead of myself.
Goran
For once the Justice Department didn't step in it.
I for one have wanted to shout to the world about my former employer and the bulls*it stunts she pulled but knew that she had her "yes-borgs" reading F*ckedCompany and others just looking for posts. It's good to know that peoples personal opinions are exactly that. Opinions. And not grounds for slander.
And that's MY opinion.
Goran
How many times in the past have governments tried to control what their citizens see, hear, and read?
It doesn't work. You just create a new industry of underground news and information. I'm sure given time this will come back to bite them on the butt. As some form of Human Rights violation or something else. But face it. When the gov't tries to control the media, it's because they're worried that you will figure out that your gov't sucks and demand change. The only thing this does is slow down the change, and in many times force a more violent change when it comes. (i.e. coup, revolution)
It's time that gov'ts start reading the writing on the wall instead of trying to cover it with paint.
Goran
I've always enjoyed brewing my own beer.
For under $100 you can get all the stuff you need to brew and bottle your own beer.
If they are the handy person type, gift cards for your local Home Depot, Loews, Menards, etc. are good.
Bookworms always like gift cards to Barnes-Noble, B. Dalton, Waldenbooks, etc.
Or Lego Mindstorms whan all else fails
Maybe if geeks carried guns they'd be nicer to each other?
I doubt it. You'd prolly have more dead geeks and workplace shootings.
Most of the geeks I know get passionate about their work. And when account-borgs get annoying you're going to get gunplay.
My guess is that it depends on where you work. If your company goes the extra step to make the workplace a good place to be, make the effort to reward employees for even the smallest things, then you won't get much back-stabbing.
I too hate badly written code. But I take a great deal of joy in hacking up somone's mess and turning it into a gem.
Goran
My current co-workers and I get together now and then for beers after work. But I tend to see more of my former co-workers.
Now, when someone else escapes from the place we all used to work we get together to celibrate the escape of the new person. There is even a mailing list for former employees where we can all trade stories, gripes, complaints, and horror stories of our former employer. It's a great way to heal from having worked for one of the demons from the seven gates of hell.
Goran
credit me when I get a wrong number on my cell phone, or do I still have to argue with the phone company that I shouldn't be charged for the incoming wrong number to my phone?
I'm all for the new whistles and bells that they've been sticking into the new phones, full color displays, better batterytime, etc. But I just wish that they'd spend just as much on improving the customer service.
Goran
You seem to have left out the stores of Nerve Gas in Oregon.
Anyone who thinks that the US Govt didn't do any research into Bio-warfare should crawl back under the rock they've been hiding under. There always has been and always will be the covert research into this kind of thing. If anything, we as a global people should be aware that there is always the possibility for someone to release some bug on the world.
Should we be frightened? No. Should we be alert to what is going on around us? Yes. We should be prepared for it, expect it, and work to make sure that it doesn't happen. The world has changed, and we just need to realise that the unthinkable might just happen.
Goran
Somehow I just don't think that an episode of The Soprano's would convey the same weight as Soprano's "lite".
But for those folks with kids, this would be a great way to expose the kids to great movies/TV without the need to lock away every tape or disk you own. As it stands now, for me at least, I have to keep two sets. A mommy and daddy group kept locked away (The Soprano's, any movie with a high bullet or body count) and the "G" rated stuff for the kids.
The only trouble is explaining to the wife why I need a "new toy."
Goran
I'd love to send a couple dozen copies to my former employer.
She'd surround herself with lots of smart folks and then just ignore what they had to say.
It might also explain the 50% turn-over rate thay have.
However, The one thing about books like these is that the "folks in charge" won't read them. As a front line techie building websites, we often have to explain to the account reps the why and how things work on the internet. No matter how many times you tell them that it's not "business as usual" and that the "if you build it, they will come" mentality is off base, they still want things their way.
In many ways I wish things were like it was two years ago. Far too many stupid people willing to throw money at a project. Now, it seems that they've all gone the way of the dinosaur.
Thank god for the brochureware sites or I'd be out of a job!
Goran
Will I have to by Norton Closet-scan?
Will it keep me from wearing socks that don't match?
Will it electrocute me if I wear stripes with polka-dots or colors that really clash?
Goran
In schools and offices all across America.
"Gee, I guess I left my home work/presentation in my other suit."
No more feeding it to the dog I guess.
Goran
Now I may be completely wrong, but I thought the US Government put a stop to the rental or "try-it before you buy-it" software. If DVD's are ruled as software, would that mean that Blockbuster and Hollywood Video would no longer be able to rent DVD's?
Now wouldn't that put one hell of a dent in the motion picture industry!
"Liked the Movie? Sorry, but you'll have to buy it if you want to see it again. Unless you want to rent the low res VHS tape.
Goran
You could contact this company:
http://www.c-3d.net/
These folks are the makers of the FMD (Fluorescent Multi-layer Disc) that will have storage amounts of 20 - 100 Gigabytes of data on a regular sized CD (120mm). With retrieval speeds of up to 1gigabit/second, this might be an option for you.
Although they have not yet released a product for the public to buy, they might be interested in your problem. They are currently working on being the new standard for Video disks and HDTV disks.
Goran
It's a microsoft site and you want to use a non-Microsoft product to view the site?
How dare you!
But then why should it be different. They want to be the end-all, be-all, company of the world. I mean why would a company that is "NOT" a monopoly allow visitors to deprive themselves of the full experiance of visiting their site just because they use a "second rate" browser.
I even found that some areas of the site don't work on a Mac. (script errors)
The simple reason is because they are a monopoly.
They won't rest until the only software you use is theirs.
And every roadblock that they can put in your way will only strenghten that fact.
My guess is that if they could they would have one of their guys run for President.
One Country, of MicroSoft, by MicroSoft, and for MicroSoft.
I'm still surprised that Windows XP wasn't called Windows Dominator.
Goran
It states in the article that the kids have the option of being programmers or being helped into colleges and other programs. Any intercity program that helps lower the crime rate, murder rate, gang membership is a good thing. Helping kids help themselves into being an asset to society instead of a number in a prison is not something to take lightly.
Everyone at some point in their life had some sort of influence that helped them along. Be it advice from a teacher, some news story or article, parent, or friend it got you where you are today. I see nothing wrong with giving these kids a different path to follow. In the end it will be up to the kid. If he/she stays the course and changes their life or fails. I'm just glad that someone is trying to help.
Goran
Was it from a need or a business standpoint?
How many other times have parent companies closed "lesser" earning holdings so that they can take a tax write-off on the "failing" business to off-set the windfall profits they made earlier in the year. The business world sucks because everything comes down to the bottom line. How much money can we make for our own pockets and our stockholders. I've been on both sides of this and when it was money in my pocket I raved about how good business is. After being on the consumer side of things, it blows.
How many of us were changing our Telco's weekly when they were passing out checks to switch? I must have bounced between MCI, ATT, and Sprint five or six times in one month. But when the checks stopped I went with the lowest costing company.
Yes, it's frustrating, but until someone comes up with a better idea I think it will continue.
Goran
On a side note:
Disgruntled educated scientists can steal a bio-agent just as easily as your young security guard on minimum wage. Face facts.
Everything has a price. No exceptions.
That includes criminal elements and diligence.
Goran
Nobody likes to be searched/suspected of wrong doing if there isn't a "good" reason. But as several have pointed out, the person in question works for the NIH. Since nobody seems to know where the Anthrax is coming from, it would seem that searches would be in order. But I also know how if feels from a personal point of view.
A former employer didn't trust any of her employees. She snooped e-mails, web usage, phone calls, computers, and desks of anyone who spoke of quitting or who had given notice. But then she was/is psychotic.
The only thing I can offer is this. During this time of need, deal with it. If you don't like it, quit. It's that simple.
Goran
You pretend that you're five years old. You release crappy code that's full of bugs and holes into the marketplace, and rather than own up to the fact that it's bad from the get-go, you point the blame at someone else and call it terrorism.
Gee. When I was a kid and tried to pass the blame for something I did I got sent to bed without my dinner.
Being that they're a huge corporation, in Microsoft's case I'd settle for them simply fixing their crappy code.
But to hide behind the law instead of trying to correct your code leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Sure. I don't expect it to be bullet-proof, but at least it should be more secure than it is. The reason they get targeted as much as they do is because of the attitude they have for the public.
They must think that everyone is some sort of slack-jawed drooling simpleton that will blindly accept anything that placed in front of them. Sorry to dissappoint you Bill. But when we use your products, there is a certain amount of security and functionality expected. If there wasn't, then why do you think we all complain each time a new hole or flaw is found?
Goran
The cable company does the same thing with the decoder boxes, as do many cities with their water meters. They force you to use their crap and then bill you up the wahzoo until the end of time. On the business side, it's great. Folks paying hundreds of dollars over time for something that cost very little. On the consumer end, it sucks. You have zero choice if you want the service, and you will keep paying the money because there isn't anything else you can do.
Microsoft hopes to put this same tried and true method of earning money to use with your computer. If you look at the situation with the telco's and TV cable ccompanies. Innovation, better service, and more choice came about once there was a choice between telco's and TV service. If you didn't want TCI or Time Warner you went with a dish. If you don't like AT&T, there is Sprint or MCI. The problem with the computer industry is the limited choices between MAC OS, Linux, and Windows to name a few.
Once MS squeezes out any other choice for OS or for Internet access (.NET or Hailstorm) we will all suffer and have no other choice than to pay MS whatever they want.
After all. What was the last innovative thing to come out of MS? Nothing. They've only been "Improving" their exsisting software. They don't have any innovations, so the only thing left is to narrow the field and leave you no other option than to pay them.
Goran