Our office got closed yesterday cause of it. We got hit pretty badly.
Are you serious? Your office is so dependent on windows XP/2000 machines that when struck by a virus you got SENT HOME?? Jesus Christ, I wish my company was that incompetent. Last time I was sent home from work was when we had just received two feet of snow and power was knocked out for over 2 hours (it was actually out for 12 but the boss let us go after 2).
Living in Maine and actually working for the University of Maine system, I can guarantee that at least one of the planets will be knocked down via 12 gauge by the end of the week.
Why the hell would you think that they hacked the website? Virus propogating software is forbidden by geocities terms of service hence geocities probably discontinued the account which allowed the fizzer task force to recreate it and put their own software in fizzers place. I quote from the TOS:
(h) upload, post or otherwise transmit any material that contains software viruses or any other computer code, files or programs designed to interrupt, destroy or limit the functionality of any computer software or hardware or telecommunications equipment;
So hence, a violation of the TOS occured and Yahoo/Geocities had the right to do pretty much whatever they wanted.
Now I suppose I can expect the following in my inbox:
04/28/2003 sdogin@microsoft.com Join the fight against spam!
04/28/2003 asgasg@microsoft.com Join the fight against spam!
04/28/2003 dfjdfdsagsdg@aol.com Join the fight against spam!
etc, etc, etc.
Comon you guys... Slashdot gets lamer and lamer the more you stop caring. If you don't bother to scroll half way down the first fucking page of your own website to check and see if it already posted then why should your readers bother coming back.
Amen. You don't just go around installing Linux all willy-nilly. Linux works for certain groups of people of which the author does not belong to. Every OS has a purpose and a following... I would have loved to see the authors notes if s/he had tried installing SCO Unix:P
This kind of technology has been out for a long, long time. There are all kinds of devices that broadcast to a frequency on your radio... why would the RIAA care? The only people that are going to pick it up are the people 2 feet away from your current position.
I had problems installing the Helix server on FreeBSD 4.7 i386.. The XML module wouldn't compile which caused the entire compilation to fail. The fix is to add the following line to common/lang/xml/pub/xmlesc.h prior to the #endif// _XMLCONV_H_ line.
We had this problem at the university that I work at as the DBA. Professors were irked at students not paying attention to the class and instead chatting on IM or playing games. The solution that we came up with is a website that a professor can visit on our intranet and select the level of wireless blocking that he/she would like for a given class. The different levels are things like Web Access Only, Web & Email, Email Only, All, and None (the default of course is all access is allowed unless otherwise specified). The results are then stored in our central database. The second part of the program is a linux box that runs some perl code every minute out of cron. It checks to see if there are any blocks issued for any of the classes that are starting on this minute. If there are, it pulls out a list of all students that are enrolled in the given class from the database and then dynamicly creates a snort rule file which just blasts out TCP resets to the local user effectivly blocking them. This solution has worked well for us with of course the exception of students being angry. I personally agree with the professors on this one simply because if you are in one of their classes and you bother to show up, your on their time at that point. If you don't want to pay attention then simply don't go. Just an opinion:)
Comparing EQ to heroin is kind of a strech isn't it? I've heard tell of people not feeding their kids just so they could get their next fix of heroin.... I doubt anyone would stoop to this level to keep playing EverQuest.
... And I understand that the method used was over the top but again, once you break a rule, the penelties aren't really for you to decide. I mean, if the cable company wanted to shell out money they could have sent 5 helicopters to circle the houses too.. more dramatic but still the same outcome. My feeling is that once you break a contact or you break the law you're kind of at the mercy of the person that you wronged. As far as the people that didn't sign contracts are concerned, two things could happen 1] They owned the cable modem and therefor no damage was done to the cable companies equipment and they will be cleared of all wrong doing due to the fact that they didn't do anything wrong or 2] If the cable company owns the modem, they are still in violation for tampering with their equipment.. This is the same thing as taking off a cable filter to get more channels.
christ, I cant believe there are people walking around who think like you.
Sorry I shattered your perfect world
Im sorry but there is a HUGE difference between uncapping a cablemodem and stealing tvs from bestbuy and selling them.
How do you figure? ISPs sell a product, that product is bandwidth. Bestbuy sells products, one of those is TVs. If we go by what your saying, then stealing from one company is ok but stealing from other companies is bad and should be punished? I realize that we draw the line on things like self defense in murder trials but in this situation you seem to agree with me that the cable modem uncappers are in fact stealing! Stealing = Stealing. You want more bandwith, pay for it.
In the eyes of the law, no crime has yet been committed. These people are innocent until proven guilty.
True, but from what I know of the law, law enforcement agencies are allowed to collect evidence. Without the hacked modem, no evidence. Was it excessive for the crime? Sure.. But it is a crime.
Since you're one of the few responses to my post that didn't post as anonymous, I'll repsond to you... I agree that the FBI raiding houses if far too much for the crime but it's still a crime. I mean, where do you draw the line? Why is it ok to violate a contract with your ISP but not break copyright laws? Don't wanna start a flame war or a fight. Just my point of view:)
This is the same old, same old... People violating contracts or laws and then getting angry when the heat finally comes down on them. "Man, I can't believe office [insert local cop name here] stopped by for going 8 over the speed limit".. Fine.. go out and be an activist and try to get the speed limits upped. "Damn.. My webhoster [insert webhoster name here] shut down my account cuz I was serving MP3s and Warez". Copyrights laws are just that.. laws. People uncapping their cable modems when it violates their service agreements should be stopped. Follow the rules or find a provider with better rules.
ookkk.. and while we're all sharing bandwidth, how about you make 100 copies of your car keys and give them to everyone in your neighborhood in case they feel like using your car.
Is that like releasing a bunch of bees in to a computer and having them resize the partition for you? I didn't realize that those little guys are so damn good at computer maintenance.
Ohhhhh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize. Your parents must have been really terrible, I mean for you to become a DBA and all.
I never claimed my parents were bad parents... They wouldn't let me sit in front of the TV or computer for 2 weeks straight.
DISCLAIMER: I don't normally flame, but when people absolutely insist on trying to have an intelligent opinion on something they know nothing about and won't admit it, I just really get annoyed. But I guess that just means I'm a bad parent.
Nope.. Doesn't make you a bad parent at all. The part about you letting your 4 year old play games for however long he wants, weeks at a time even, makes you a bad parent.
You probably spend a good deal of time in front of the computer too, hence the/. account.
Yup. Make my living as a DBA hence I'm in front of the computer a lot of time
Guess what, his brain didn't fall out, he isn't wandering the street with a loaded shotgun, and he's not out smoking on the street corners.
Ummm... Ok lets see how to tackle this brainer of a response. First, he's 4 so I doubt he could heft a loaded 12 gauge shotgun whilst walking the street. I also doubt that even the most braindead of clerks would sell him a pack of cigs... But hey, He's only 4... Give him a few more years in front of the TV and we'll wait and see.
Final point: children learn SOMETHING from EVERYTHING.
Yuuuuuup... I'm sure that if they stick a fork in their eye they'll quickly learn not to do it again.. doesn't mean they should have done it in the first place though does it?
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roflmao
Point and match.
Our office got closed yesterday cause of it. We got hit pretty badly.
Are you serious? Your office is so dependent on windows XP/2000 machines that when struck by a virus you got SENT HOME?? Jesus Christ, I wish my company was that incompetent. Last time I was sent home from work was when we had just received two feet of snow and power was knocked out for over 2 hours (it was actually out for 12 but the boss let us go after 2).
omg if you said that to my face I would break it, it was not a lame attempt at +5 u freak; I already have excellent karma; why do I need more?
If you aren't worried about Karma then why did you post the above as an anonymous coward?
Living in Maine and actually working for the University of Maine system, I can guarantee that at least one of the planets will be knocked down via 12 gauge by the end of the week.
Why the hell would you think that they hacked the website? Virus propogating software is forbidden by geocities terms of service hence geocities probably discontinued the account which allowed the fizzer task force to recreate it and put their own software in fizzers place. I quote from the TOS:
(h) upload, post or otherwise transmit any material that contains software viruses or any other computer code, files or programs designed to interrupt, destroy or limit the functionality of any computer software or hardware or telecommunications equipment;
So hence, a violation of the TOS occured and Yahoo/Geocities had the right to do pretty much whatever they wanted.
Now I suppose I can expect the following in my inbox:
04/28/2003 sdogin@microsoft.com Join the fight against spam!
04/28/2003 asgasg@microsoft.com Join the fight against spam!
04/28/2003 dfjdfdsagsdg@aol.com Join the fight against spam!
etc, etc, etc.
Comon you guys... Slashdot gets lamer and lamer the more you stop caring. If you don't bother to scroll half way down the first fucking page of your own website to check and see if it already posted then why should your readers bother coming back.
Amen. You don't just go around installing Linux all willy-nilly. Linux works for certain groups of people of which the author does not belong to. Every OS has a purpose and a following... I would have loved to see the authors notes if s/he had tried installing SCO Unix :P
This kind of technology has been out for a long, long time. There are all kinds of devices that broadcast to a frequency on your radio... why would the RIAA care? The only people that are going to pick it up are the people 2 feet away from your current position.
I had problems installing the Helix server on FreeBSD 4.7 i386.. The XML module wouldn't compile which caused the entire compilation to fail. The fix is to add the following line to common/lang/xml/pub/xmlesc.h prior to the #endif // _XMLCONV_H_ line.
const char* strnstr (const char *&, const char[4], UINT32 &);
Then re-run the build and it should compile fine.
We had this problem at the university that I work at as the DBA. Professors were irked at students not paying attention to the class and instead chatting on IM or playing games. The solution that we came up with is a website that a professor can visit on our intranet and select the level of wireless blocking that he/she would like for a given class. The different levels are things like Web Access Only, Web & Email, Email Only, All, and None (the default of course is all access is allowed unless otherwise specified). The results are then stored in our central database. The second part of the program is a linux box that runs some perl code every minute out of cron. It checks to see if there are any blocks issued for any of the classes that are starting on this minute. If there are, it pulls out a list of all students that are enrolled in the given class from the database and then dynamicly creates a snort rule file which just blasts out TCP resets to the local user effectivly blocking them. This solution has worked well for us with of course the exception of students being angry. I personally agree with the professors on this one simply because if you are in one of their classes and you bother to show up, your on their time at that point. If you don't want to pay attention then simply don't go. Just an opinion :)
Comparing EQ to heroin is kind of a strech isn't it? I've heard tell of people not feeding their kids just so they could get their next fix of heroin.... I doubt anyone would stoop to this level to keep playing EverQuest.
... And I understand that the method used was over the top but again, once you break a rule, the penelties aren't really for you to decide. I mean, if the cable company wanted to shell out money they could have sent 5 helicopters to circle the houses too.. more dramatic but still the same outcome. My feeling is that once you break a contact or you break the law you're kind of at the mercy of the person that you wronged. As far as the people that didn't sign contracts are concerned, two things could happen 1] They owned the cable modem and therefor no damage was done to the cable companies equipment and they will be cleared of all wrong doing due to the fact that they didn't do anything wrong or 2] If the cable company owns the modem, they are still in violation for tampering with their equipment.. This is the same thing as taking off a cable filter to get more channels.
Okkk... In the same respect murdering 1 person != murdering 10 people. Still murder isn't it?
christ, I cant believe there are people walking around who think like you.
Sorry I shattered your perfect world
Im sorry but there is a HUGE difference between uncapping a cablemodem and stealing tvs from bestbuy and selling them.
How do you figure? ISPs sell a product, that product is bandwidth. Bestbuy sells products, one of those is TVs. If we go by what your saying, then stealing from one company is ok but stealing from other companies is bad and should be punished? I realize that we draw the line on things like self defense in murder trials but in this situation you seem to agree with me that the cable modem uncappers are in fact stealing! Stealing = Stealing. You want more bandwith, pay for it.
that the breaking of said contract is a deliberate and intentional act to defraud
defraud
v : deprive of by deceit; "He swindled me out of my inheritance"
"Why yes Mr. ISPtech, I'll agree that I won't uncap my cable modem and I'll prove it by signing your terms of service."
In the eyes of the law, no crime has yet been committed. These people are innocent until proven guilty.
True, but from what I know of the law, law enforcement agencies are allowed to collect evidence. Without the hacked modem, no evidence. Was it excessive for the crime? Sure.. But it is a crime.
Since you're one of the few responses to my post that didn't post as anonymous, I'll repsond to you... I agree that the FBI raiding houses if far too much for the crime but it's still a crime. I mean, where do you draw the line? Why is it ok to violate a contract with your ISP but not break copyright laws? Don't wanna start a flame war or a fight. Just my point of view :)
This is the same old, same old... People violating contracts or laws and then getting angry when the heat finally comes down on them. "Man, I can't believe office [insert local cop name here] stopped by for going 8 over the speed limit".. Fine.. go out and be an activist and try to get the speed limits upped. "Damn.. My webhoster [insert webhoster name here] shut down my account cuz I was serving MP3s and Warez". Copyrights laws are just that.. laws. People uncapping their cable modems when it violates their service agreements should be stopped. Follow the rules or find a provider with better rules.
ookkk.. and while we're all sharing bandwidth, how about you make 100 copies of your car keys and give them to everyone in your neighborhood in case they feel like using your car.
jackass.
Beeing able to resize it..
Is that like releasing a bunch of bees in to a computer and having them resize the partition for you? I didn't realize that those little guys are so damn good at computer maintenance.
lol... I can see your source code for your
project as we speak...
#inclood "stdlib.h"
#inclood "stdio.h"
FIL *myfil;
char *sumwerd;
int maine () {
sumwerd = "I kant spel at al.\n";
myfil = fopun("/etc/passwd","w");
fpoots(sumwerd,myfil);
fcluse(myfil);
retorn(0);
}
E is for E-Bay, that's good enough for me...
(Sing to the tune of C is for Cookie, Copyright 1998-2002 Sesame Workshop)
Ohhhhh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize. Your parents must have been really terrible, I mean for you to become a DBA and all.
I never claimed my parents were bad parents... They wouldn't let me sit in front of the TV or computer for 2 weeks straight.
DISCLAIMER: I don't normally flame, but when people absolutely insist on trying to have an intelligent opinion on something they know nothing about and won't admit it, I just really get annoyed. But I guess that just means I'm a bad parent.
Nope.. Doesn't make you a bad parent at all. The part about you letting your 4 year old play games for however long he wants, weeks at a time even, makes you a bad parent.
You probably spend a good deal of time in front of the computer too, hence the /. account.
Yup. Make my living as a DBA hence I'm in front of the computer a lot of time
Guess what, his brain didn't fall out, he isn't wandering the street with a loaded shotgun, and he's not out smoking on the street corners.
Ummm... Ok lets see how to tackle this brainer of a response. First, he's 4 so I doubt he could heft a loaded 12 gauge shotgun whilst walking the street. I also doubt that even the most braindead of clerks would sell him a pack of cigs... But hey, He's only 4... Give him a few more years in front of the TV and we'll wait and see.
Final point: children learn SOMETHING from EVERYTHING.
Yuuuuuup... I'm sure that if they stick a fork in their eye they'll quickly learn not to do it again.. doesn't mean they should have done it in the first place though does it?