This may be true... but it seems like developers for Windows are a lot less concerened about quality then on Linux. I'm not going to say there are not linux programmers who don't care about quality.. but over all it seems that MSFT has made it so easy to program administer, whatever the Windows Boxen that you can just point and click.. where as with Linux there needs to be a bit of understanding....
Good example... Our Nortel phone system has some ACD monitoring software that works with the Symphony ACD system... it (per Cintech makers of Symphony) should NOT run on an outside your firewall server, or any other public server as the web service needs to run as ADMINISTRATOR!!!! YIKES! There are infact instructions for setting it up and changing permissions on some directories to make it run as Administrator... YIKES! I had a very long phone call with them one day and only got "Yeah that's why we recommend it running on its own $$MSFT LICENSE CHA-CHING$$ machine." Needless to say we are migrating to Asterisk after only about 2 years as we have out-grown the Nortel system... and we will actually profit by selling the Nortel system and putting in an Asterisk system.
This is because it was improperly coded back then.. and / or you have not upgraded to newer versions.. function calls have changed and progressed.. where as (as you have explained) Visual Studio has not changed... grown.. or made better any of its internal functions.
Actually they did this.. if I recall in some study they did.. they installed Red Hat 7.3 when 9 (I believe) was the stable release out.. and complained it didn't work right.. or like Windows 2000 did.
Hrmm Microsoft Flight Simulator has done it to me... additionally some programs have done it because "Windows has a lock on the directory" and you have to reboot and manually delete.. definately a Microsoft/OS issue (albiet some of them may be bad uninstallers)
OSS advocates are stating that Windows is increadibly robust and stable.. until you start adding to it. Infact, after installing and uninstalling programs, testers were suprised to find information still says in the REGISTRY! In addition... some programs leave directory structures behind sometimes with megabytes of data files in them!
Good Grief... brittle? At least when I do a "make un-install" I'm not left with registry entries filling up all over the place.
How in the world is Linux brittle when you start adding to it?
How do you figure? My fire alarms routinely last a year or more... changing them every 6 months or so is a rediculous waste of batteries... they beep when the batteries are GOING dead...
Unfortunately, sir, this was your fault. If you had read the driving manual... where a speed limit is not posted, the speed limit is 35 MPH.. your fault.. no one elses.
Hrmm.. doesn't work for me... first Williamsport, PA is missing even though they have Trout Run, PA ?!?! Further when I select a city/state/zipcode and select what I want to see it just sits there and does zilch.. not too impressive.
Ummm yeah I know what services are running.. some (like SSH) I only want me to be able to get to from certain IP addresses. Some (like on Windows) are needed for the machine to talk to Domain Controllers (but you certainly don't want joe-smith talking to your machine on port 139).. so yeah there are a lot of reasons to use firewalls!
I don't know to what extent it goes and you probably WOULDN'T actually get a fine.. it's most likely one of those laws no one cares about.. but I still find it fun to tease my friends who leave their keys in their unlocked cars... who also live in Hicktown, PA:P
This is nothing new.. I have a V710 from Verizon and have modified the firmware. Hack is a strong term and really isn't what is being done. It is my phone.. I purchased it under my contract. I chose to flash it with a firmware I wrote, and I take full responsibility for any technical issues I may have with it. I have not ripped Verizon off of any cost or services that (ie free minutes)..
Why not try a hardware solution? perhaps a Cisco PIX? Worse case use monowall.. it is free and runs linux... put all the machines BEHIND a firewall.. don't run firewalls on each machine.. additionally an unpatched windows machines should be able to SAFELY be on the net.. if it isn't you aren't doing your job of securing it correctly... get that pink slip ready.
So they made an improvement to DOS... how does that mean it's NOT DOS? So DOS now supports more then 8 characters... that makes it not DOS? When your Linux operating system has a new bash feature it didn't used to have.. does that make it no longer bash?!?!
Indeed.. at the college I attended the Math department was apparently having "political issues" staying in the computer program! I was told by a fairly well off Dean that the math department was IN the computer program because of "political issues" and some of the people in the Comp Sci department actually wanted the higher level math OUT of the Comp Sci program!
I disagree... yes you should be able to do addition and subtraction in your head.. but anything more is overkill... Honestly, you aren't required to understand in the interworking of your car to drive it... why require someone to know how to do major math problems in their head... ESPECIALLY when we have good equipment that is available that won't make mistakes (unless we key it in wrong).
So.. real life eh? Yes.. I have google.com at work, at home... etc... away from a computer? I have google on my cell phone.. which also has a calculator.. ACK! away from cell coverage? I have a majorly scientific calculator on my Handspring Visor which I always carry with me... so why did I need to know how to do that problem by hand again?
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This may be true... but it seems like developers for Windows are a lot less concerened about quality then on Linux. I'm not going to say there are not linux programmers who don't care about quality.. but over all it seems that MSFT has made it so easy to program administer, whatever the Windows Boxen that you can just point and click.. where as with Linux there needs to be a bit of understanding....
Good example... Our Nortel phone system has some ACD monitoring software that works with the Symphony ACD system... it (per Cintech makers of Symphony) should NOT run on an outside your firewall server, or any other public server as the web service needs to run as ADMINISTRATOR!!!! YIKES! There are infact instructions for setting it up and changing permissions on some directories to make it run as Administrator... YIKES! I had a very long phone call with them one day and only got "Yeah that's why we recommend it running on its own $$MSFT LICENSE CHA-CHING$$ machine." Needless to say we are migrating to Asterisk after only about 2 years as we have out-grown the Nortel system... and we will actually profit by selling the Nortel system and putting in an Asterisk system.
This is because it was improperly coded back then.. and / or you have not upgraded to newer versions.. function calls have changed and progressed.. where as (as you have explained) Visual Studio has not changed... grown.. or made better any of its internal functions.
Windows runs as a layer 7 bridge/bridging firewall/router? WOW!
Actually they did this.. if I recall in some study they did.. they installed Red Hat 7.3 when 9 (I believe) was the stable release out.. and complained it didn't work right.. or like Windows 2000 did.
Hrmm Microsoft Flight Simulator has done it to me... additionally some programs have done it because "Windows has a lock on the directory" and you have to reboot and manually delete.. definately a Microsoft/OS issue (albiet some of them may be bad uninstallers)
OSS advocates are stating that Windows is increadibly robust and stable.. until you start adding to it. Infact, after installing and uninstalling programs, testers were suprised to find information still says in the REGISTRY! In addition... some programs leave directory structures behind sometimes with megabytes of data files in them!
Good Grief... brittle? At least when I do a "make un-install" I'm not left with registry entries filling up all over the place.
How in the world is Linux brittle when you start adding to it?
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How do you figure? My fire alarms routinely last a year or more... changing them every 6 months or so is a rediculous waste of batteries... they beep when the batteries are GOING dead...
Where? It wasn't listed on the main www.fcc.gov website on the 29th of June... when was it published.. anyone have a linkie?
Unfortunately, sir, this was your fault. If you had read the driving manual... where a speed limit is not posted, the speed limit is 35 MPH.. your fault.. no one elses.
How will this help? So a phishing site makes a button that resembles the bank of america one... then asks some questions.. yeah this will work.
That's because you keep upgrading.. run w2k on TODAYs computer and it will run nice and fast.
Hrmm.. doesn't work for me... first Williamsport, PA is missing even though they have Trout Run, PA ?!?! Further when I select a city/state/zipcode and select what I want to see it just sits there and does zilch.. not too impressive.
OR NOT.. using Mozilla... when I hit space it checks it and ALSO moves me to the next page!!! Not how it is suppose to work.
Ummm yeah I know what services are running.. some (like SSH) I only want me to be able to get to from certain IP addresses. Some (like on Windows) are needed for the machine to talk to Domain Controllers (but you certainly don't want joe-smith talking to your machine on port 139).. so yeah there are a lot of reasons to use firewalls!
I don't know to what extent it goes and you probably WOULDN'T actually get a fine.. it's most likely one of those laws no one cares about.. but I still find it fun to tease my friends who leave their keys in their unlocked cars... who also live in Hicktown, PA :P
In Pennsylvania you can get a fine for leaving the keys in an unlocked car..
This is nothing new.. I have a V710 from Verizon and have modified the firmware. Hack is a strong term and really isn't what is being done. It is my phone.. I purchased it under my contract. I chose to flash it with a firmware I wrote, and I take full responsibility for any technical issues I may have with it. I have not ripped Verizon off of any cost or services that (ie free minutes)..
I now have to pay for *2* cell phones instead of just one.. sounds MORE expensive then just using my minutes!
Why not try a hardware solution? perhaps a Cisco PIX? Worse case use monowall.. it is free and runs linux... put all the machines BEHIND a firewall.. don't run firewalls on each machine.. additionally an unpatched windows machines should be able to SAFELY be on the net.. if it isn't you aren't doing your job of securing it correctly... get that pink slip ready.
Rightest: "You are suppose to avoid making contractions whenever possible!"
So they made an improvement to DOS... how does that mean it's NOT DOS? So DOS now supports more then 8 characters... that makes it not DOS? When your Linux operating system has a new bash feature it didn't used to have.. does that make it no longer bash?!?!
Perhaps w2k3 is running on a workstation? And that was more an example then something that's being done.
Indeed.. at the college I attended the Math department was apparently having "political issues" staying in the computer program! I was told by a fairly well off Dean that the math department was IN the computer program because of "political issues" and some of the people in the Comp Sci department actually wanted the higher level math OUT of the Comp Sci program!
I disagree... yes you should be able to do addition and subtraction in your head.. but anything more is overkill... Honestly, you aren't required to understand in the interworking of your car to drive it... why require someone to know how to do major math problems in their head... ESPECIALLY when we have good equipment that is available that won't make mistakes (unless we key it in wrong).
So.. real life eh? Yes.. I have google.com at work, at home... etc... away from a computer? I have google on my cell phone.. which also has a calculator.. ACK! away from cell coverage? I have a majorly scientific calculator on my Handspring Visor which I always carry with me... so why did I need to know how to do that problem by hand again?