So, Bill Gates dies, and goes to Heaven, and he meets up with Saint Peter, and says "Hey, it's Bill, I'm just going to go on in." And Saint Peter says, "Sorry Bill, everyone is equal here. You need to stand in line like everyone else."
Begrudgingly, Bill Gates walks to the end of the enormous line, but as he's waiting to get into Heaven, a limo drives up, and there in the limo is Steve Jobs! Now, Bill Gates is furious, so he walks up to Saint Peter and complains, "Hey! I thought you said everyone was equal here! But, I just saw Steve Jobs, yeah, Steve Jobs roll with a limo!"
Saint Peter laughs, and responds, "Oh no, that wasn't Steve Jobs. That was God, he only thinks he's Steve Jobs."
Now, cut to, I download a copy of VS 2005 from bit torrent, and use it on my home computer, and develop an application with it. Now it's mine and I didn't have to pay for VS;o)
Only until they find out, and sue you for profits gained from your copyright infringment. Ouch, now it's theirs.:(
Plus, my company discount on VS 2005 is damned cheap, so there's little incentive for me to use it without proper permission.
I'm not sure why you chose to quote that portion of my post since what you say doesn't disagree with what I was saying. I am aware of the study showing that AA and other programs have the same success rate as people who just try and stop a pattern of addictive behavior on their own. Doesn't that support what you quoted from me?
Maybe because I'm not always arguing with people when I post a response. Maybe, sometimes, I just want to add some information that other people keep missing in the other 8 parents of the thread.
Going to a behavioral therapist is exactly the kind of thing I was actually thinking of when I wrote those words. Professional therapy is the type of help I encourage, and I feel that the sentiment evident in some posts in this thread discourages those caught in an addictive cycle from seeking help instead instilling shame in them that perpetuates the cycle.
Totally. There's just too many people on both sides trying to say "It's a disease, it's not my fault!" or "Damn it, you're just a lazy bitch, go out, get some excercise and stop eating so much!"
The truth is somewhere in the middle, and everyone who is obese should be talking with a professional about what they ought to be doing, rather than talking to a bunch of whiners on both sides of the debate.
Awesome that you have constructive choices for them to seek out.
I'd avoid setting up anything using Work equipment at all. If they paid any part in it, then they can usually try and yoink it from you. That would suck hardcore.
For example, if I use a company copy of VS 2005 on my home computer and develop an application with it, my company essentially owns it. I was using a work copy.
Now, cut to, I buy a copy of VS 2005 at the company store, and use it one my home computer, and develop an application with it. Now it's mine.
So that warm fuzzy that you get from saying "it's mine mine mine", is a GOOD feeling, and you should be embracing it, rather than thinking of ways to get around it.
Or even without the subtitles, since plenty of Germans understand spoken English perfectly well.
Certainly... just like my friend in Munich, who couldn't tell me if I had an American accent, because he had never heard one. Although, he does speak English decently enough though, and is of a young enough age that "the importance of English" would be well enough established.
I'd honestly say though, that I likely speak better German than most Germans speak English.
hey Alchy McAlcherson knock off the firewater is really not a helpful sentiment.
Actually, Alcoholics Anonymous has an over all going rate of exactly the same as those going cold turkey... it's somewhere around 5%. It's the same for smoking also.
Fact is that every addiction is hard to get off of, but whether "help" is supplied or not, the quitting rates are the same over time.
So, the issue becomes, we can't just tell fatties to lay off the donuts, because they won't, even though they may know they should. They could "stop" cold turkey, and try and fix it, but this leads to a "defficiency" that they try and account for the next time they stop quitting. Same as with alcoholics. Eventually, this cycle brings it self out so that they're binging hard, and having a rollercoaster of effects because of it.
My issue here is that we tell people to get a doctors advice before going on a diet, because the cause of the weight may not be within their control (a virus that would cause a store of fat regardless of their intake) or something entirely unhealthy for them (a 90lb 16 year old going "Look at my pot belly, I'm a fat little pig.")
In either of those cases, a doctors input is invaluable. In some/most cases though, it's entirely possible that just "quitting" "cold turkey" would work as well as anything else, the person "just" has to muster the willpower to to break the addiction.
That is another point of course - I am a native german speaker. I'd rather have a good english soundtrack which actually complements the acting, than a wooden german dub. Of course if you want to learn some german, that is different.
Actually, even that depends... I myself have even seen some horrible German dubbing that drives me crazy.
WoW had some weird issues in the German client, like male stall masters were given the title "Stallmeiserin". *sigh*
Much of the dialog has gotten better though, since they can actually correct stupid things like that; you don't get that sort of thing with a DVD, or at the cinema though. I've been impressed at the lack of Gerglish in WoW, although it's weird because some things are translated, some things aren't. Like, you'll face boss mobs with the name "Dunkelsteich", yet you'll see friendly NPCs all over named "Moonweave" or something like that.
ANYWAYS... I'm rambling... I'd be happier with more original German content than anything else, but oftentimes, that just doesn't work. Hm... I wonder if I could get episodes of Das Quiz Show... that was my favorite show while I was in Munich.
I can't stand the german dubbed crap. Horrible, just horrible, in most cases.
I would take this opinion likely more if I wasn't still learning the finer details of German. For me it's more desirable to listen to a horrible dubbing job and get at least a moderate amount of German study out of it, than to listen to the English with or without subtitles... after all, I speak English natively.
So let's see.... None of the usual DVD extras? One language? No hard copy? SAME PRICE?
Yeah, at least some Germans don't like to watch dubbed movies, and prefer to see them in English with German subtitles. (Like Americans with Anime) Of course hojillions of movies are dubbed every year, of which likely most are watched as dubbed.
I noticed that weird wording also.... I can only imagine that this is because this is slashdot. I mean, only slashdot could be UPSET about a mostly naked woman getting between them and a game...
God, I'm sick of all these people thinking that main can just be a void. That's not the way the world works, and you're wrong... god damn stupid star theory is probably bringing that up...
I don't debate that the second processor is good. In fact, I highly agree! I have had a number of dual cpu systems. I had a dual P3-800MHz when the top of the line was 1GHz, and now I have a dual 2.7GHz G5.
Both have been/are far more responsive than any single cpu, single core system I've ever used, even with hyperthreading. (which, btw, I have issues with, and in generally would rather not have, than have.)
I explained on my blog why they upgraded the iMac first, because if they had upgraded the PowerMac first, then it would have been just "10~25% faster", which doesn't carry the same thunder as "2~3x faster", and Apple is going to play the biggest card it can off the bat, as they always have.
The iMac Intel is by far a much better machine than the iMac G5, but don't fool yourself into thinking that the single-threaded apps are going to get any speed boost.
(11 seconds from an earthlike planet to it's star with a sublight engine....).
Wait wait wait... At sublight, 11 seconds away puts it at max range at 11 lightseconds away. That's even the distance to mercury.
I'm not saying you aren't quoting them right or something, because it wouldn't surprise me that a sci-fi show (even a good one) might accidentally let a "fact" like this go.
Jesus servo....sulum alius capio 3D6 contricio detrimentum.
Please learn Latin or you just sound weird, and don't make any sense.
"Jesus servo" has two agents, "Jesus" and the speaker. "Jesus servat" (Jesus saves) would be what you're looking for. Or "Jesum servo" (I save Jesus) but I doubt this is the meaning you're intending.
The rest of it is so mangled, I can't make out what you're saying... except just from context, I'm guess you're trying to say something like "... saving throw of 3D6 against..."
Only intel zealots would think that an intel chip would be 3 times faster anyway. POWER isn't that bad or Microsoft wouldn't have put them in xbox 360s. Another factor is that the software "optimized" for x86 hasn't been out long. Sure apple's been keeping the old nextstep port alive all these years (it ran on intel and 68k), but making it run and tuning it for the latest pentium chip are two different things.
It's not. The iMac Intel just has a dual core processor. The actual increase in speed from a G5 to a Core Duo is only about 10~25%, the rest just comes from getting two of them.
So, SURPRISE, comsumer level single-threaded apps only get a 10~25% increase, it's AMAZING.
Thanks for th info. It's been by far one of the most learningful experiences I've had on slashdot.
Now that I understand EULAs, yeah, it's stupid. "Because the owner of the copyright won't give you a copy unless you agree to one." But, I already have the copy, and I already bought it. Yeah, that as a legal arguement doesn't make any sense to me. (I understand it, and how it works now, but it's still f*in stupid.)
EULAs have a different legal basis, and it's not founded on needing a license to use software.
Please, explain if you would. I'm confused. If I don't need an EULA to be granted permission to use the software, then what do I need it for? and how does it have any legal standing at all?
Methinks one would be much better serviced by a rack of systems, this thing would run WAY too hot.
You still run into heat issues even with racks. But I agree, split it up into a HD rack, and a pvr rack, and you'll likely avoid much of the heat issues they're having.
Of course, in rackmount you don't have a whole lot of room to work with, and I don't know how possible it would be to get the four PCIe cards into a rackmount system.
IANAL, but my reading is that a company who violates the GPL loses the right to copy, modify and distribute, but can still use the software.
My reading of the clause says the same thing. Which is far better than anything else anyone else put forward against me.
You are correct. Right to use of a GPL program is implicitly granted by the distribution mechanism itself.
As to all the other people who are arguing that some OTHER license gives this right by analogy are wrong. MS Windows does not have implicity right to use as long as you have a copy.
The correct solution to the debate was to go to the source and show that the GPL declares that this right is implicit to everyone, and also unrestricted.
Legally, violating copyright means you are liable for monetary damages, and you may be forced to cease and desist distribution of the violating item. However it says nothing about the original item. If you plaguarize the NY Times, they may sue you. However you are still allowed to read the NY Times.
That's because you don't have a license to copy the NY Times, and you have an implicit permission to read the contents. The NT Times implicitly gives that right to read per edition to everyone who purchases a copy of their edition.
Software is used/distributed under licenses, and the copyright holder dictates allowed use through such licenses. The GPL is what grants you right to use, right to modify, and right to distribute. If you violate the GPL, and make that license void, then you have no license or right to do anything with the code, even to use it.
If you disagree, I'd like to know what mythical license you're imagining that grants you right to use appart from the GPL.
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Yeah, using Stephen Spielberg and Stanly Kubrik would work, too.
I just heard the joke in reference to how egotistical Steve Jobs was/is.
The joke was supposed to show off Steve Jobs's ego.
So, Bill Gates dies, and goes to Heaven, and he meets up with Saint Peter, and says "Hey, it's Bill, I'm just going to go on in." And Saint Peter says, "Sorry Bill, everyone is equal here. You need to stand in line like everyone else."
Begrudgingly, Bill Gates walks to the end of the enormous line, but as he's waiting to get into Heaven, a limo drives up, and there in the limo is Steve Jobs! Now, Bill Gates is furious, so he walks up to Saint Peter and complains, "Hey! I thought you said everyone was equal here! But, I just saw Steve Jobs, yeah, Steve Jobs roll with a limo!"
Saint Peter laughs, and responds, "Oh no, that wasn't Steve Jobs. That was God, he only thinks he's Steve Jobs."
Now, cut to, I download a copy of VS 2005 from bit torrent, and use it on my home computer, and develop an application with it. Now it's mine and I didn't have to pay for VS ;o)
:(
Only until they find out, and sue you for profits gained from your copyright infringment. Ouch, now it's theirs.
Plus, my company discount on VS 2005 is damned cheap, so there's little incentive for me to use it without proper permission.
I'm not sure why you chose to quote that portion of my post since what you say doesn't disagree with what I was saying. I am aware of the study showing that AA and other programs have the same success rate as people who just try and stop a pattern of addictive behavior on their own. Doesn't that support what you quoted from me?
Maybe because I'm not always arguing with people when I post a response. Maybe, sometimes, I just want to add some information that other people keep missing in the other 8 parents of the thread.
Going to a behavioral therapist is exactly the kind of thing I was actually thinking of when I wrote those words. Professional therapy is the type of help I encourage, and I feel that the sentiment evident in some posts in this thread discourages those caught in an addictive cycle from seeking help instead instilling shame in them that perpetuates the cycle.
Totally. There's just too many people on both sides trying to say "It's a disease, it's not my fault!" or "Damn it, you're just a lazy bitch, go out, get some excercise and stop eating so much!"
The truth is somewhere in the middle, and everyone who is obese should be talking with a professional about what they ought to be doing, rather than talking to a bunch of whiners on both sides of the debate.
Awesome that you have constructive choices for them to seek out.
Exactly what I was going to say.
I'd avoid setting up anything using Work equipment at all. If they paid any part in it, then they can usually try and yoink it from you. That would suck hardcore.
For example, if I use a company copy of VS 2005 on my home computer and develop an application with it, my company essentially owns it. I was using a work copy.
Now, cut to, I buy a copy of VS 2005 at the company store, and use it one my home computer, and develop an application with it. Now it's mine.
So that warm fuzzy that you get from saying "it's mine mine mine", is a GOOD feeling, and you should be embracing it, rather than thinking of ways to get around it.
Or even without the subtitles, since plenty of Germans understand spoken English perfectly well.
Certainly... just like my friend in Munich, who couldn't tell me if I had an American accent, because he had never heard one. Although, he does speak English decently enough though, and is of a young enough age that "the importance of English" would be well enough established.
I'd honestly say though, that I likely speak better German than most Germans speak English.
hey Alchy McAlcherson knock off the firewater is really not a helpful sentiment.
Actually, Alcoholics Anonymous has an over all going rate of exactly the same as those going cold turkey... it's somewhere around 5%. It's the same for smoking also.
Fact is that every addiction is hard to get off of, but whether "help" is supplied or not, the quitting rates are the same over time.
So, the issue becomes, we can't just tell fatties to lay off the donuts, because they won't, even though they may know they should. They could "stop" cold turkey, and try and fix it, but this leads to a "defficiency" that they try and account for the next time they stop quitting. Same as with alcoholics. Eventually, this cycle brings it self out so that they're binging hard, and having a rollercoaster of effects because of it.
My issue here is that we tell people to get a doctors advice before going on a diet, because the cause of the weight may not be within their control (a virus that would cause a store of fat regardless of their intake) or something entirely unhealthy for them (a 90lb 16 year old going "Look at my pot belly, I'm a fat little pig.")
In either of those cases, a doctors input is invaluable. In some/most cases though, it's entirely possible that just "quitting" "cold turkey" would work as well as anything else, the person "just" has to muster the willpower to to break the addiction.
That is another point of course - I am a native german speaker. I'd rather have a good english soundtrack which actually complements the acting, than a wooden german dub. Of course if you want to learn some german, that is different.
Actually, even that depends... I myself have even seen some horrible German dubbing that drives me crazy.
WoW had some weird issues in the German client, like male stall masters were given the title "Stallmeiserin". *sigh*
Much of the dialog has gotten better though, since they can actually correct stupid things like that; you don't get that sort of thing with a DVD, or at the cinema though. I've been impressed at the lack of Gerglish in WoW, although it's weird because some things are translated, some things aren't. Like, you'll face boss mobs with the name "Dunkelsteich", yet you'll see friendly NPCs all over named "Moonweave" or something like that.
ANYWAYS... I'm rambling... I'd be happier with more original German content than anything else, but oftentimes, that just doesn't work. Hm... I wonder if I could get episodes of Das Quiz Show... that was my favorite show while I was in Munich.
I can't stand the german dubbed crap. Horrible, just horrible, in most cases.
I would take this opinion likely more if I wasn't still learning the finer details of German. For me it's more desirable to listen to a horrible dubbing job and get at least a moderate amount of German study out of it, than to listen to the English with or without subtitles... after all, I speak English natively.
So let's see.... None of the usual DVD extras? One language? No hard copy? SAME PRICE?
Yeah, at least some Germans don't like to watch dubbed movies, and prefer to see them in English with German subtitles. (Like Americans with Anime) Of course hojillions of movies are dubbed every year, of which likely most are watched as dubbed.
Did you just say GOOD riddance to booth babes?
That ain't right.
I noticed that weird wording also.... I can only imagine that this is because this is slashdot. I mean, only slashdot could be UPSET about a mostly naked woman getting between them and a game...
stdin:6: error: '::main' must return 'int'
God, I'm sick of all these people thinking that main can just be a void. That's not the way the world works, and you're wrong... god damn stupid star theory is probably bringing that up...
I don't debate that the second processor is good. In fact, I highly agree! I have had a number of dual cpu systems. I had a dual P3-800MHz when the top of the line was 1GHz, and now I have a dual 2.7GHz G5.
Both have been/are far more responsive than any single cpu, single core system I've ever used, even with hyperthreading. (which, btw, I have issues with, and in generally would rather not have, than have.)
I explained on my blog why they upgraded the iMac first, because if they had upgraded the PowerMac first, then it would have been just "10~25% faster", which doesn't carry the same thunder as "2~3x faster", and Apple is going to play the biggest card it can off the bat, as they always have.
The iMac Intel is by far a much better machine than the iMac G5, but don't fool yourself into thinking that the single-threaded apps are going to get any speed boost.
http://www.google.com/search?q=1+lightyear+per+yea r+in+furlongs+per+fortnight
If it's wrong, blame google!
(11 seconds from an earthlike planet to it's star with a sublight engine....).
Wait wait wait... At sublight, 11 seconds away puts it at max range at 11 lightseconds away. That's even the distance to mercury.
I'm not saying you aren't quoting them right or something, because it wouldn't surprise me that a sci-fi show (even a good one) might accidentally let a "fact" like this go.
Jesus servo....sulum alius capio 3D6 contricio detrimentum.
..."
Please learn Latin or you just sound weird, and don't make any sense.
"Jesus servo" has two agents, "Jesus" and the speaker. "Jesus servat" (Jesus saves) would be what you're looking for. Or "Jesum servo" (I save Jesus) but I doubt this is the meaning you're intending.
The rest of it is so mangled, I can't make out what you're saying... except just from context, I'm guess you're trying to say something like "... saving throw of 3D6 against
Only intel zealots would think that an intel chip would be 3 times faster anyway. POWER isn't that bad or Microsoft wouldn't have put them in xbox 360s. Another factor is that the software "optimized" for x86 hasn't been out long. Sure apple's been keeping the old nextstep port alive all these years (it ran on intel and 68k), but making it run and tuning it for the latest pentium chip are two different things.
It's not. The iMac Intel just has a dual core processor. The actual increase in speed from a G5 to a Core Duo is only about 10~25%, the rest just comes from getting two of them.
So, SURPRISE, comsumer level single-threaded apps only get a 10~25% increase, it's AMAZING.
Thanks for th info. It's been by far one of the most learningful experiences I've had on slashdot.
Now that I understand EULAs, yeah, it's stupid. "Because the owner of the copyright won't give you a copy unless you agree to one." But, I already have the copy, and I already bought it. Yeah, that as a legal arguement doesn't make any sense to me. (I understand it, and how it works now, but it's still f*in stupid.)
EULAs have a different legal basis, and it's not founded on needing a license to use software.
Please, explain if you would. I'm confused. If I don't need an EULA to be granted permission to use the software, then what do I need it for? and how does it have any legal standing at all?
At 4U x2, or even 4U x1 + 1U x1, why not just get a bigger case?
Then the entirety of every EULA is wrong, and Microsoft can't stop me from using Windows? Sweet to know, thanks.
Methinks one would be much better serviced by a rack of systems, this thing would run WAY too hot.
You still run into heat issues even with racks. But I agree, split it up into a HD rack, and a pvr rack, and you'll likely avoid much of the heat issues they're having.
Of course, in rackmount you don't have a whole lot of room to work with, and I don't know how possible it would be to get the four PCIe cards into a rackmount system.
IANAL, but my reading is that a company who violates the GPL loses the right to copy, modify and distribute, but can still use the software.
My reading of the clause says the same thing. Which is far better than anything else anyone else put forward against me.
You are correct. Right to use of a GPL program is implicitly granted by the distribution mechanism itself.
As to all the other people who are arguing that some OTHER license gives this right by analogy are wrong. MS Windows does not have implicity right to use as long as you have a copy.
The correct solution to the debate was to go to the source and show that the GPL declares that this right is implicit to everyone, and also unrestricted.
Legally, violating copyright means you are liable for monetary damages, and you may be forced to cease and desist distribution of the violating item. However it says nothing about the original item. If you plaguarize the NY Times, they may sue you. However you are still allowed to read the NY Times.
That's because you don't have a license to copy the NY Times, and you have an implicit permission to read the contents. The NT Times implicitly gives that right to read per edition to everyone who purchases a copy of their edition.
Software is used/distributed under licenses, and the copyright holder dictates allowed use through such licenses. The GPL is what grants you right to use, right to modify, and right to distribute. If you violate the GPL, and make that license void, then you have no license or right to do anything with the code, even to use it.
If you disagree, I'd like to know what mythical license you're imagining that grants you right to use appart from the GPL.