He also has a good argument on full disclosure: "You are not encouraged to withhold information. Programmers who create security holes will suffer if those security holes are disclosed; good! They obviously need more incentive to check their work. The security holes are their fault, not yours. If you're worried about them shooting the messenger, post anonymously. "
This comes down to Cisco needing more incentive to check their work. They're the "best" router company or something, there should be NO security holes. They should pay a few people to check for security problems EVERY DAY for EVERY PRODUCT. They have the money.
Anyway, this lawsuit has solidified one thing in my mind: I will never buy another piece of Cisco or Linksys hardware. (And it's hard to turn down Linksys stuff... the WRT54G is great and I hear their $99 storage gizmo is cool too. But I have to look elsewhere, Cisco deserves to go out of business.)
I really should have said "Western Frontier Foundataion" instead of "Gun Frontier Foundation".:) Gun Frontier Foundation? That's probably the dumbest thing I've ever read on slashdot:)
Maybe because there is a legitimate need of not having your printouts tracked? And because they're the Electronic Frontier Foundation, not the Gun Frontier Foundation.
Anyway, the gun tracking is mostly looking for manufacturing defects that somehow mark up the bullet as it's fired (scraping off pieces of metal as it's shot through the barrel). Gun makers are not intentionally putting tracking data on to the bullets!
If you don't like slashdot then don't read it! Unless you have something intelligent to say, just don't click the post button. Click your browser's close button and go back to surfing boinkboink or whatever it's called.
>That's a rather scary statement - isn't the connector on the back of the average Linksys WiFi router (or Airport base station, or 99% of the WiFi PC cards) standard?
Nope. It's a combination BNC / threaded coax thing which I can't seem to find anywhere. Very proprietary. Having small batches of these crappy connectors made is probably a lot more expensive than a standard BNC plug/jack set. Oh well, yet another government regulation that costs the taxpayers money (needlessly!).
What will they think of next!? Personally, I shut all of my servers down at 5PM so that people working late are inconvenienced and all incoming mail delivery fails! Take that, SPAM!
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Nobody said anything about hating Apple. I made that post from my Powerbook running Tiger! (I've also never installed a *BSD; GNU/Linux is my thing...) I just want to know what the point of the article is... why is it so interesting that someone is using OS X to control a vehicle?
It's based of the BSD kernel, and you can run said kernel by itself, without Aqua. Why the hell would they include Aqua in the car?
Specifically, what does their version of BSD (darwin) do that a free BSD couldn't do? I mean, why bother with it? I don't see the point of using OS X unless it's on a desktop. (Actually their X serves are nice for a server, too...)
I used to believe that slashdot didn't run slashvertisements, but now I know I'm wrong. How is this news for nerds? It's just "propaganda for apple". What would be news for nerds would be a profile of the competition and the non OS X entries. But no, all we get is an article about how good Apple is because some robot is run by their OS. Great.
I'll also note that the same article has been on Apple's "start page" (the default site for Safari) for over a week.
Staying on topic:), I don't see the point of running embedded systems with OS X. OS X is a nice OS because of the usability factor. But a control system doesn't need a shiny GUI and integration with your iPod. So I think FreeBSD or Linux might have been a better choice... what specific Aqua/Cocoa feature was used here?
You're an idiot then. People always consider their slides "the presentation". "Puttomg a presentation online" consists of uploading the presentation and MAYBE (rarely) a recording of you reading them.
If you can't use Linux, then don't use it. Use Windows, I don't care.
I think a lot of non-Linux users think the goal of Linux is to take over the world and be the only OS out there. No. Most of ue hardcore Linux users just want something that works for us. We don't care if grandma can use it or not because we're not grandma!
There are some people that want Linux to be a desktop OS. OK, fine. Good luck to them. But that's their project, not mine. If you want Linux to be easier to use, you have two choices: 1) write the code to do this. 2) donate money to someone who will do this. Otherwise STFU and buy a Mac or Windows box.
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I like the ad that comes up now:
Hans Island - Dispute
Why Worry about Hans Island When
What you need is an Ergonomic Chair
www.ergo4me.com
Absolutely beautiful marketing.
I think I might actually click through!
He also has a good argument on full disclosure: "You are not encouraged to withhold information. Programmers who create security holes will suffer if those security holes are disclosed; good! They obviously need more incentive to check their work. The security holes are their fault, not yours. If you're worried about them shooting the messenger, post anonymously. "
This comes down to Cisco needing more incentive to check their work. They're the "best" router company or something, there should be NO security holes. They should pay a few people to check for security problems EVERY DAY for EVERY PRODUCT. They have the money.
Anyway, this lawsuit has solidified one thing in my mind: I will never buy another piece of Cisco or Linksys hardware. (And it's hard to turn down Linksys stuff... the WRT54G is great and I hear their $99 storage gizmo is cool too. But I have to look elsewhere, Cisco deserves to go out of business.)
You're saying that instead of using the yellow toner from the yellow toner cartridge, they're using color-changing fairy dust pulled from thin air?
Somehow, I doubt that.
Couldn't the nut just color the background yellow so that the dots don't show up?
> You mean they meant, one one leet-eth.
Or maybe even one mili-leet-er.
> but i'm sure some other people with a bit more knowledge have tried, seen the errors, and worked at it.
> wi-fi still hasn't been figured out though
In other words, you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
Actually, they obviouly meant to write "1/1,337th".
I really should have said "Western Frontier Foundataion" instead of "Gun Frontier Foundation". :) Gun Frontier Foundation? That's probably the dumbest thing I've ever read on slashdot :)
Why is the damn coffee shop closed on Wednesday!?
Maybe because there is a legitimate need of not having your printouts tracked? And because they're the Electronic Frontier Foundation, not the Gun Frontier Foundation.
Anyway, the gun tracking is mostly looking for manufacturing defects that somehow mark up the bullet as it's fired (scraping off pieces of metal as it's shot through the barrel). Gun makers are not intentionally putting tracking data on to the bullets!
If you don't like slashdot then don't read it! Unless you have something intelligent to say, just don't click the post button. Click your browser's close button and go back to surfing boinkboink or whatever it's called.
The article is about laser printers, which don't use ink.
Good point. I was only casually trying to connect a BNC cable to the thing once, since it looked like it would fit. Alas, it did not :)
If I were serious, though, I would definitely open the thing up and solder on suitable connectors.
...
[I can't believe I just read that]
wow u r fat
>That's a rather scary statement - isn't the connector on the back of the average Linksys WiFi router (or Airport base station, or 99% of the WiFi PC cards) standard?
Nope. It's a combination BNC / threaded coax thing which I can't seem to find anywhere. Very proprietary. Having small batches of these crappy connectors made is probably a lot more expensive than a standard BNC plug/jack set. Oh well, yet another government regulation that costs the taxpayers money (needlessly!).
> It's terrible that something like that would happen. It isn't legal and it isn't moral.
:)
Spoken like a true spammer.
It's BSD running on the Mach microkernel. Just like MkLinux was Linux running on the Mach microkernel.
What will they think of next!? Personally, I shut all of my servers down at 5PM so that people working late are inconvenienced and all incoming mail delivery fails! Take that, SPAM!
Oh wait.
Why should we change? They're the ones who suck. :)
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Nobody said anything about hating Apple. I made that post from my Powerbook running Tiger! (I've also never installed a *BSD; GNU/Linux is my thing...) I just want to know what the point of the article is... why is it so interesting that someone is using OS X to control a vehicle?
It's based of the BSD kernel, and you can run said kernel by itself, without Aqua. Why the hell would they include Aqua in the car?
Specifically, what does their version of BSD (darwin) do that a free BSD couldn't do? I mean, why bother with it? I don't see the point of using OS X unless it's on a desktop. (Actually their X serves are nice for a server, too...)
I wrote a 2-byte version of the same program.
$ dc
3 5 + 2 * p
16
I used to believe that slashdot didn't run slashvertisements, but now I know I'm wrong. How is this news for nerds? It's just "propaganda for apple". What would be news for nerds would be a profile of the competition and the non OS X entries. But no, all we get is an article about how good Apple is because some robot is run by their OS. Great.
:), I don't see the point of running embedded systems with OS X. OS X is a nice OS because of the usability factor. But a control system doesn't need a shiny GUI and integration with your iPod. So I think FreeBSD or Linux might have been a better choice... what specific Aqua/Cocoa feature was used here?
I'll also note that the same article has been on Apple's "start page" (the default site for Safari) for over a week.
Staying on topic
You're an idiot then. People always consider their slides "the presentation". "Puttomg a presentation online" consists of uploading the presentation and MAYBE (rarely) a recording of you reading them.
Excuse me?
> check out books on bomb-making and Islam, they should not have the expectation of anonymity
Why exactly not?
If you can't use Linux, then don't use it. Use Windows, I don't care.
I think a lot of non-Linux users think the goal of Linux is to take over the world and be the only OS out there. No. Most of ue hardcore Linux users just want something that works for us. We don't care if grandma can use it or not because we're not grandma!
There are some people that want Linux to be a desktop OS. OK, fine. Good luck to them. But that's their project, not mine. If you want Linux to be easier to use, you have two choices: 1) write the code to do this. 2) donate money to someone who will do this. Otherwise STFU and buy a Mac or Windows box.