Isn't the real money for performers in concert seats and merchandise?
that's a completely different issue. a "Straw man" as they say.
His point was that nobody but the record companies makes any significant money off selling CDs already, so is it really even a question of "ensuring the artist gets paid" in the first place. It's not a straw man. He's questioning the basic premise of the argument. The man asks "how will independents get paid", and he is asking "does anyone even make money selling CDs now?"
But if you can throw a football, oh wow, put you on a pedestal. That's what education gets you...
Well, the sports thing is understandable. You can't just take Joe Random off the street and train him to be a star quarterback. It's the simple fact that people who can throw a football well are so rare that makes them pedestal-fodder. But education? Stick almost anyone in school long enough and they'll become educated.
I'm a strong proponent of the idea that only the faithful should be devoured alive while still sane.
Faithful and still sane? What sort of cult is that???
heh. OK, sane is the wrong word. The faithful should be devoured alive without being tortured by madness first. They just have the regular madness of the devout, not the bad kind.
If you were inside US Customs at an Australian Airport, or stole his luggage from the US Embassy in Sydney, you were in fact on US Soil, and thus committed a crime in the US.
If you're on US soil, you're not in Australia, thus the argument is irrelevant.
Hmmmm... so the real issue at stake here is whether this man should be devoured alive or driven insane and then devoured alive. It's a tough one.
I'm a strong proponent of the idea that only the faithful should be devoured alive while still sane. If we allow miscreants like this to escape madness, what incentive is there to show proper respect to the Ancient Ones?
I don't think that it is stupid at all. In this particular situation, the line of where the crime was committed is very blurry. While he may have been sitting at his computer in Australia, he was accessing those in other countries and presumably the United States (think IRC servers, FTP servers, DCC connections).
This is true, but the location of the victim is entirely irrelevant. What is important in law is the location of the crime. If I steal an American's luggage in Sydney while he's still in Los Angeles because he missed his connection at the airport, I haven't committed a crime in the US, have I? Just as you say, the location of the crime is difficult to pinpoint, and that is what is at issue. The fact that the victim of the crime is a corporation based in the US is irrelevant. It could just as easily be a German company with a US copyright.
P.S. Do you always feel that you need to make the fallacy of personal attack for your point to be considered valid?
Sorry. I'm frequently a bit of a jerk before I've had my coffee.
The era of the fatass 80-IQ lifer sergeant shouting at draftees and enlist-or-go-to-prison volunteers is long gone.
What replaced it?
The elistment of only volunteer soldiers rendered the shrieking jackass sergeant obsolete. Realizing that permitting jerks to abuse and lord it over new recruits would result in fewer volunteers, anyone identified as a jerk was generally awarded the Order of the Boot as soon as their current enlistment term ended. When I joined in '87 the army was very keen on emphasizing that we were all there voluntarilly and if one couldn't work well with others, one should just go home (you can quit for any reason in the first six months, no questions asked). Drill sergeants are very stern and loud, but they were nowhere near as bad as they were in the 60's (a la R Lee Ermey "Full Metal Jacket"). I remember only one incident in basic training, where a real jerk of a drill sergent in another platoon in my company punched a recruit in the stomach. He was gone from the training company the next day, and from what we heard, he was standing at a bus stop in civvies with his discharge papers five or six weeks later.
What are Hollywood screenwriters going to do now that they can't use the screaming parade sargeant prop?
Oh, they'll keep using that caricature for a long time. It's traditional. The difference between an abusive drill sergeant and a strict disciplinary one is obvious to someone under their command, but to a casual outside observer they both look the same. Besides, Hollywood writers don't care if they're accurate. Watch a couple episodes of The West Wing, for example, and puzzle over military absurdities like "the M-2 Bradley has a 120mm cannon", or plot devices like white house staff blackmailing a general who they discovered was wearing a medal on his uniform he was never awarded (someone would have noticed long before he became general and would've called bullshit on that; self-awarded medals are big no-no's; career-killing no-no's).
While his actions were performed in Australia, many of his victims (the owners of said IP) reside in the United States. Without getting into an IP law debate, It's not that much of a stretch to prosecute someone under the laws of the country of the victim.
Who modded this insightful? It's stupid. It doesn't matter where the victim lives, it matters where the crime was committed. If I rob a Swiss tourist in Sydney, do I get extradited to Switzerland to stand trial for robbery? Think, people, think!
You ever been in the Army?
That's EXACTLY who is running the show!
I specifically remember during my time in the 1960's of seeing a "beer-gutted old sergeant" yelling at some young guy to "shape up and look like a soldier". I nearly cracked up - which would have gotten me in trouble.
Trust me, the military IS run by middle-aged, beer-gutted men playing war.
The army hasn't been like that for 20+ years. Really, you think your 40 years out of date point of reference is still accurate? Get a clue. The era of the fatass 80-IQ lifer sergeant shouting at draftees and enlist-or-go-to-prison volunteers is long gone.
74C and 31C while on active duty. Switched to 96B for Reserves/Guard.
Heh. I picked 98C (SIGINT Analyst) 'cause I figured I had a good chance of ending up with a cushy strategic job. I ended up assigned to the Pukin' Buzzards (101stABN) in mid 1990. I'm still trying to wash the grit out of my mouth and get all the sand dumped out of my boots.
A. A service provider lock is used to ensure that the mobile phone will only work on one operator, usually who the user has bought the mobile phone from. If the mobile phone is locked, then, it would refuse to accept a SIM card from another operator or any foreign operator. Unlocking is the process of removing the service lock. After that, the user can use other SIM cards or any of the worldwide operators with their specific mobile phone.
In some places you can buy pre-paid SIM cards that you pop into any un-locked phone and just use. Locked phones won't accept any SIM card except the one they came with.
It's a joke. You can tell because he over-emphasizes that the site is small by saying it in 3 different ways.
I find that those types of jokes where you simply say something not true in a believable way are quite often difficult to get. I think because we coders tend to take things too literally,:)
Yeah, I think the trouble stems from the text-based interface. The original joke would work fine the way he stated it if he had spoken it and could properly inflect it to indicate his facetious intent. It seems to me that a lot of "web journalists" write as if they're speaking conversationally and fail to keep in mind that the tone of voice they hear in their head won't come out in the text unless they exaggerate it. What he said sounded like three matter-of-fact statements that were incorrect. Saying it three times is the wrong approach. Exaggeration, rather than repetition, is more reliable. Off the top of my head, even something like "He calls it Slashdot; and although no one ever reads it and it'll probably be as dead as BSD by next year, we wish him luck" woulod have been clearer. So I wouldn't blame it entirely on our propensity towards taking things literally.
Everyone who bitches about gaming not being as good as it used to be is either A. outgrowing it or B. just pissed off because they finished their favorite game and can never get the same excitement from any other game ever again.
Before people go flaming me, I fit into this category! I've both outgrown gaming (for the most part) and played through my favorite games more times than I probably should have.
I'd have to identify with both A and B. I've tried to replay games that I found utterly absorbing 10 years ago, and even though I don't remember the game solutions went, I find them dull, dull, DULL. My 23 year old brother, on the other hand, can still play "Action Biker" on a C64 emulator for hours! Maybe it's just because I don't smoke huge quantities of weed all the time like he does...
Sorry, but the network capability of running a web server hasn't been assigned to you. You are blocked at the protocol layer.
Sounds like they don't want the Internet to be a network of ends anymore and control who can do what with the network. Nice experiment, this unrestricted free speech on the Internet, but we've decided we don't want you to have that. Be consumers, not producers.
Sheesh, RTFA. They're talking about a new protocol layer for use by the military. Combat-deployed wireless networks aren't "the Internet".
does DARPA really want to displace IP for the entire Internet or just for their own purposes? If it's the latter, then it shouldn't be nearly as difficult. It is afterall the military. I imagine it would be easier to get soldiers to comply with the new standard.
Well, from my reading of it, since they're talking specifically about solving the shortcomings of the military's wireless ad-hoc networking, they probably aren't pushing to throw out IPv4 for everyone. Like you say, if they come up with something that solves the problems they mention, forced adoption of the system will be limited to the military and that will go relatively quickly.
Yes. But *making* a back-up and *downloading* a copy are two different things. You are allowed to rip your CD to your hard-drive; you are, technically, not allowed to download someone else's copy. That's the difference.
Actually, the source from which you obtain your copy is largely irrelevant in terms of your liability. When you download a [song/ROM/etc] the person from who you are getting it is the one breaking the law. Copyright law says you have a right to make a backup copy so long as you possess a legal, licensed copy. It doesn't require that the copy be made from your original source.
Downloading copyrighted material is only theft if the license precludes you from doing so. Copyright establishes ownership. The owner can grant a public license for his work without relinquishing ownership.
Download copyrighted material is never theft. Copyright infringement and property theft are covered by two wholly unrelated parts of the law. A copyright itself can be considered property, but the work covered by the copyright cannot. Copyright law exists to provide a mechanism to treat intangible creative works as if they were property. It does not mean they are property. The distinction is subtle, but very important. One cannot own a song, but one can possess the exclusive government-enforced right to authorize copies of a song.
You see, it's a list of other "impossible books" meant to illustrate the absurdity of someone claiming to have the pre-movie Jurassic Park 3 book. There's also no second bible, and.....oh, fergit it...
They seem to believe the snazzy corporate slogans like "GE: We Bring Good Things to Life", and honestly believe that the megacorps are out to help humanity.
Hey, GE put as much care and attention into designing and building GAU-8 30mm and M-61 20mm multibarrel cannon systems as they put into refrigerators and dishwashers. Customer satisfaction is important to their business. If your food spoiled, or you dishes came out dirty, or the T-72 tank you were shooting at from your A-10 warthog didn't explode, would you buy another fridge, dishwasher, or GAU-8 Avenger 30mm cannon from GE again? They're a real people company because they have to be!
But not ignored without any acknowledgement of challenge, or at least a statement saying you disagree with the law.
No official statement is required to challenge a law. One simply refuses to obey. When brought into court to answer for one's refusal to obey, that's when the challenge happens. I don't know where you get the idea that a law must even be acknowledgedh in order to challenge it.
That was one of the largest patent verdicts ever. According to this article, not only did Kodak have to pay over $900M to Polaroid, they had to buy back all their product. In total, it cost them over $3B.
Funny thing is, you can still occasionally find those Kodak instant cameras in pawn shops and thrift stores. I wonder how many people buy them and only later find out that the film has been unavailable for 15 years. I've tried pointing out to those who run those stores that the cameras are worthless, but they don't care. Hey, if a sucker is willing to pay $5...
I bet though that thousands of others had their lives saved by big and little electronic gadgets (radar, rescue beacons, GPS, DVD players, two-way radio)
...DVD players?
We didn't have DVD players, but I swear I would've died of boredom early on in my Saudi deployment without that VCR in the enlisted lounge.
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Or perhaps they left out one word:
"The wires can stretch over half again their original length."
It's just bad writing no matter how you look at it.
that's a completely different issue. a "Straw man" as they say.
His point was that nobody but the record companies makes any significant money off selling CDs already, so is it really even a question of "ensuring the artist gets paid" in the first place. It's not a straw man. He's questioning the basic premise of the argument. The man asks "how will independents get paid", and he is asking "does anyone even make money selling CDs now?"
Well, the sports thing is understandable. You can't just take Joe Random off the street and train him to be a star quarterback. It's the simple fact that people who can throw a football well are so rare that makes them pedestal-fodder. But education? Stick almost anyone in school long enough and they'll become educated.
Faithful and still sane? What sort of cult is that???
heh. OK, sane is the wrong word. The faithful should be devoured alive without being tortured by madness first. They just have the regular madness of the devout, not the bad kind.
If you're on US soil, you're not in Australia, thus the argument is irrelevant.
Hmmmm... so the real issue at stake here is whether this man should be devoured alive or driven insane and then devoured alive. It's a tough one.
I'm a strong proponent of the idea that only the faithful should be devoured alive while still sane. If we allow miscreants like this to escape madness, what incentive is there to show proper respect to the Ancient Ones?
This is true, but the location of the victim is entirely irrelevant. What is important in law is the location of the crime. If I steal an American's luggage in Sydney while he's still in Los Angeles because he missed his connection at the airport, I haven't committed a crime in the US, have I? Just as you say, the location of the crime is difficult to pinpoint, and that is what is at issue. The fact that the victim of the crime is a corporation based in the US is irrelevant. It could just as easily be a German company with a US copyright.
P.S. Do you always feel that you need to make the fallacy of personal attack for your point to be considered valid?
Sorry. I'm frequently a bit of a jerk before I've had my coffee.
What replaced it?
The elistment of only volunteer soldiers rendered the shrieking jackass sergeant obsolete. Realizing that permitting jerks to abuse and lord it over new recruits would result in fewer volunteers, anyone identified as a jerk was generally awarded the Order of the Boot as soon as their current enlistment term ended. When I joined in '87 the army was very keen on emphasizing that we were all there voluntarilly and if one couldn't work well with others, one should just go home (you can quit for any reason in the first six months, no questions asked). Drill sergeants are very stern and loud, but they were nowhere near as bad as they were in the 60's (a la R Lee Ermey "Full Metal Jacket"). I remember only one incident in basic training, where a real jerk of a drill sergent in another platoon in my company punched a recruit in the stomach. He was gone from the training company the next day, and from what we heard, he was standing at a bus stop in civvies with his discharge papers five or six weeks later.
What are Hollywood screenwriters going to do now that they can't use the screaming parade sargeant prop?
Oh, they'll keep using that caricature for a long time. It's traditional. The difference between an abusive drill sergeant and a strict disciplinary one is obvious to someone under their command, but to a casual outside observer they both look the same. Besides, Hollywood writers don't care if they're accurate. Watch a couple episodes of The West Wing, for example, and puzzle over military absurdities like "the M-2 Bradley has a 120mm cannon", or plot devices like white house staff blackmailing a general who they discovered was wearing a medal on his uniform he was never awarded (someone would have noticed long before he became general and would've called bullshit on that; self-awarded medals are big no-no's; career-killing no-no's).
Who modded this insightful? It's stupid. It doesn't matter where the victim lives, it matters where the crime was committed. If I rob a Swiss tourist in Sydney, do I get extradited to Switzerland to stand trial for robbery? Think, people, think!
The army hasn't been like that for 20+ years. Really, you think your 40 years out of date point of reference is still accurate? Get a clue. The era of the fatass 80-IQ lifer sergeant shouting at draftees and enlist-or-go-to-prison volunteers is long gone.
Heh. I picked 98C (SIGINT Analyst) 'cause I figured I had a good chance of ending up with a cushy strategic job. I ended up assigned to the Pukin' Buzzards (101stABN) in mid 1990. I'm still trying to wash the grit out of my mouth and get all the sand dumped out of my boots.
From here: Q. What's the lock in a mobile phone?
A. A service provider lock is used to ensure that the mobile phone will only work on one operator, usually who the user has bought the mobile phone from. If the mobile phone is locked, then, it would refuse to accept a SIM card from another operator or any foreign operator. Unlocking is the process of removing the service lock. After that, the user can use other SIM cards or any of the worldwide operators with their specific mobile phone.
In some places you can buy pre-paid SIM cards that you pop into any un-locked phone and just use. Locked phones won't accept any SIM card except the one they came with.
Yeah, I think the trouble stems from the text-based interface. The original joke would work fine the way he stated it if he had spoken it and could properly inflect it to indicate his facetious intent. It seems to me that a lot of "web journalists" write as if they're speaking conversationally and fail to keep in mind that the tone of voice they hear in their head won't come out in the text unless they exaggerate it. What he said sounded like three matter-of-fact statements that were incorrect. Saying it three times is the wrong approach. Exaggeration, rather than repetition, is more reliable. Off the top of my head, even something like "He calls it Slashdot; and although no one ever reads it and it'll probably be as dead as BSD by next year, we wish him luck" woulod have been clearer. So I wouldn't blame it entirely on our propensity towards taking things literally.
I'd have to identify with both A and B. I've tried to replay games that I found utterly absorbing 10 years ago, and even though I don't remember the game solutions went, I find them dull, dull, DULL. My 23 year old brother, on the other hand, can still play "Action Biker" on a C64 emulator for hours! Maybe it's just because I don't smoke huge quantities of weed all the time like he does...
Man, you ain't OG. "Early G" maybe, but a real OG remembers when the only game consoles came with was "Combat".
Sheesh, RTFA. They're talking about a new protocol layer for use by the military. Combat-deployed wireless networks aren't "the Internet".
Well, from my reading of it, since they're talking specifically about solving the shortcomings of the military's wireless ad-hoc networking, they probably aren't pushing to throw out IPv4 for everyone. Like you say, if they come up with something that solves the problems they mention, forced adoption of the system will be limited to the military and that will go relatively quickly.
Actually, the source from which you obtain your copy is largely irrelevant in terms of your liability. When you download a [song/ROM/etc] the person from who you are getting it is the one breaking the law. Copyright law says you have a right to make a backup copy so long as you possess a legal, licensed copy. It doesn't require that the copy be made from your original source.
Download copyrighted material is never theft. Copyright infringement and property theft are covered by two wholly unrelated parts of the law. A copyright itself can be considered property, but the work covered by the copyright cannot. Copyright law exists to provide a mechanism to treat intangible creative works as if they were property. It does not mean they are property. The distinction is subtle, but very important. One cannot own a song, but one can possess the exclusive government-enforced right to authorize copies of a song.
That's entirely his point, dude.
You see, it's a list of other "impossible books" meant to illustrate the absurdity of someone claiming to have the pre-movie Jurassic Park 3 book. There's also no second bible, and.....oh, fergit it...
Petitions rarely work on paper. Electronic ones are worth squat.
Maybe a limit to the number of free cds one can produce per year?
Limit set by whom? Based on what?
Better yet, free cds/disks must be in rewritable format.
Now that would be something!
Hey, GE put as much care and attention into designing and building GAU-8 30mm and M-61 20mm multibarrel cannon systems as they put into refrigerators and dishwashers. Customer satisfaction is important to their business. If your food spoiled, or you dishes came out dirty, or the T-72 tank you were shooting at from your A-10 warthog didn't explode, would you buy another fridge, dishwasher, or GAU-8 Avenger 30mm cannon from GE again? They're a real people company because they have to be!
No official statement is required to challenge a law. One simply refuses to obey. When brought into court to answer for one's refusal to obey, that's when the challenge happens. I don't know where you get the idea that a law must even be acknowledgedh in order to challenge it.
Funny thing is, you can still occasionally find those Kodak instant cameras in pawn shops and thrift stores. I wonder how many people buy them and only later find out that the film has been unavailable for 15 years. I've tried pointing out to those who run those stores that the cameras are worthless, but they don't care. Hey, if a sucker is willing to pay $5...
We didn't have DVD players, but I swear I would've died of boredom early on in my Saudi deployment without that VCR in the enlisted lounge.