Not many movie sequences and you can still follow the plot without them...Oh and wine does play the few movies and once they arer played you'll realise just how blown out of proportion this is...
Saying that, this is a lesson in NOT using proprietry formats, use one that has better licensing.
Yes its kinda hard to follow, but when you wathc those cut screens you're really not missing much.
Now wish radgames would pull their fingers out of there a$$ and make a codec for Bink and Linux...
Perhaps Bioware will make the moral choice and drop radgames for future games, I am sure they can find alternatives.
StarTux
Re:OK, so maybe I'll give this "Linux" thing a try
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No harm in learning both:).
Games wise, check www.tuxgames.com and also www.happypenguin.com and www.linuxgames.com to get an idea. Games is one of its weakest areas, but thi year there has certainly been a pickup. Like with looking for a car, research first pays off later.
Yes you can be productive within 5 minutes of starting up, actually I was productive right away. Again this depends on what you do.
If you're going to get SuSE 8.2, which is what I use please do yourself a favor, sign up at the suse mailing list here to ask more questions and cut out the./ trolls. The one you want is suse-linux-e@suse.com.
http://www.suse.com/us/private/support/mailingli st s/index.html
Don't listen to anyone that says stay where you are comfortable, because you've shown an interest, why not try it out?
StarTux
Re:Cheaper on linux-screws - not eval
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Will this be made from the FTP version? Because otherwise you cannot charge anything for SuSE 8.2 because of the licensing of the Yast tools, unless you have permission first from SuSE.
Check your ACPI and also memory, 8.2 is just not that unstable...
Only use it as a stop gap...
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I use Linux because of its advantages in speed, stability and configurability by the end user. I use Winex as a stop gap so I can play EverQuest with my wife. One of many things I have noticed with Winex is its resource hogging and lack of real stability, even between versions.
Ever notice that between versions some games that worked now no longer do so?
Finally, when Transgaming first started they stated that they would not compete with native ports, well that turned out to be a lie.
Winex is a strange beast, on one hand I see its value, on the other I can see its potential at destroying good solid ports. And native ports run faster, with a lot more stability than winex enabled games; finally, they help improve and mature other tools like OpenGL and things like SDL rather than just directx. Oh and before people say 90% of the desktops are Windows, well sales fell around 3% last year with regards to PC Games, I saw two whole isles at Fry's be given over to Country music. So in essence, if you make games for Mac and Linux you would have gained back those lost Windows sales and a little more and you would have entered a new market, rather than been where everyone else has been.
Linux has lacked support from the online merchants with regards to music download;s. Is Lindows pushing Ogg Vorbis to these merchants as a viable alternative to MP3's? And is Lindows supporting any decent player for Linux that can use online merchants such as e-music or others?
"A while ago, Hyperion Entertainment ported both Sin and Shogo: Mobile Armor Division to Linux. While they haven't ported any games to Linux recently, they were considering porting Tzar, but Linux gamers rejected that idea. That is sad, because Linux doesn't have an overabundance of real-time strategy games at the moment. I think that we shouldn't be so choosy when it comes to what we get ported, as we are a very small market as it is. I would have liked to buy Tzar, or any RTS game for that matter. I hope that Hyperion find something to port in the near future, as well as a publisher willing to support them. The more games we get, the better!"
Shogo had clipping issues, pretty large ones....Tzar was rejected because we're getting Disciples 2, wehich is similer but much better. Tzar didn't really offer anything unique.
This is along the lines of, "if you want to use office apps, use Microsoft Office", or in the early days, "if you want to use a networking aware OS you Windows NT".
Mac or Linux games would not get anywhere if you throw in the towel in and accept that fate. Sure neither are as good as the Windows landscape, but then companies aren't shy in admitting that they have to market Windows with its 90% share of the market, makes business sense.
Commercial Linux games are fine, indeed its coming a point where one cannot afford to buy them all...
This has not got much to do with the right tool for the right job, this seems to get many positive mod points here; That saying is great for things like databases where effects of scale come in.
Plus, you have a lot of personal preferences. Some people only really play 3D shooters, and in this respect Linux is well represented. In the arena of Simulations, yes Linux is lagging...But even on Windows there is so few new decent simulations coming out its depressing. Even games have slowed down.
Overall, why should people to be forced to buy extra for an OS just to runa few games? Makes no sense...
Thats fine when you're not a bona fide monopoly...Having 90% or so of the desktop market changes everything with regards to this, they are indeed tying this product into the OS.
Also, its easy to say, "unsupported" rather than we sue you...
Just in case peopel bottle this up with Linux Vs Microsoft, its not. It seems to be more Microsoft vs having apps made with their software running on a different system, which may in fact bypass there expensive solutions.
Also highlights another issue; Management at MS seems to be terrible, like we didn't know that. Seems to me to become a manager at MS one must hate the customer...
As they may get some form of Democracy....Its sad that whilst we fight for "Freedom" in other countries the US internally is becoming more like the monster it is trying to fight.
FreeBSD? Should try it, but I gave up on that when it crashed on my USB hub, which works in Linux with no issue.
You're right and once again the incorrect "is it ready for the desktop" gets beaten again, and its obvious everyone is trying to say desktop covers everything gui related. Best thing imho is to try as many different OS's out there to see which tastes better.
Even with Linux's faults I find it better to use and more fun than Winxx, or Mac 10.2 Jaguar (and I never liked 9 and its ilk). Just my personal preference:).
SuSE 8.1 or below should use the FTP site to download the RPM's for the driver, I believe it has something to do with interoperability of the new Loki style installer and Sax2.
SuSE 8.2 users should be fine:). But in the US 8.2 won't ship until mid-april.
What does this have to do with the Nvidia installer?
Really I am not looking back 1.5 years ago to see how things go when I get a new card, which hopefully will be one of the new FX cards.
Is the FX actually out yet? If it is not then Nvidia have released a driver that enables use of the card before it even hits the shelves...This can only be a good thing, well one would think so:).
This either a troll, or someone who really lacks experience:
"I have limited experience (managed to install and set up RH 8.0 as a router for my home network) with linux but here are a few thoughts."
So you have thoughts on something you really haven't used?
"Linux is not ready for the dsesktop. The recent discussion about mozilla incorporating smooth scrolling illustrates a fundamental problem within the linux community. Most *nix users who want to see linux replace windows on the desktop aren't willing to compete with MS in the areas which really matter to a non techie user. Many people here laughed and scorned the screenshots of the recent longhorn builds where you had lots of new UI features, admittedly most of them will probably not amount to anything but the UI does matter."
First of all, which desktop are you talking about? If you're talking about the ability to throw on an MP3 player purchased from Fry's you're probably right, but thats just one area. Seperate this into a multimedia desktop, but the ability is there as one can easily play MP3's or Ogg's quite easily on an install. Using XP's desktop is a nightmare, one which is poorly laid and and illogical. OS X's Aqua is the better one, but it lacks the configurability of KDE at this time.
"For a non techie user the choice at the moment is windows which is very easy to use but is prone to crashes amnd viruses, alternatively they have linux which is very difficult to get the hang of when coming from a windows background. Reliability means nothing if the user can't get anything done with linux. I'm no MS fanboy but I do beleive that they have gone in the right direction with the XP interface, and I also don't think you can really argue with the fact that games, multimedia and simple office apps are all easier to use for a non techie user on a windows platform."
That first line is actually bs. Non techie's have no choice as installing a new OS is something most will not want to do, so there only choice on a PC (x86 version); Windows. Of course a little more savvy one can shop online at Wal-Mart, but do they know these exist? Nope, so you have your Dell's and Gateway's, of course not a Linux in sight. On the other PC (PPC) you get Mac OS, again if you are savvy you can get Linux with it from Terrasoft...As for relativity to Windows, yes but this doesn't just affect Linux in any way, do you know anyone who moved from OS 9 to OS X? Same deal there. As for the arguments about games, multimedia and simple office apps...Well games are so easy I just click on the games section in my menu and play from there, really easy. Installing the games is usually in the instructions, mount cd and run a few commands and from my experience with users that is actually easier to use and to help with:).
"Now whether MS dominace is down to a genuinely more instinctive UI or whether people are just more familiar with it (and hence more productive) is down to debate. I'm sure many linux advocates will dismiss the idea that MS's windows UI is "better" that any of linux distos but they are reeally missing the point."
That is the biggest load of crap I have read in awhile. The answer is this: pre-load, pre-load, advertise on TV, pre-load. Its not a UI issue whatsoever, sure familiarity comes in later, but right now that isn't stopping people.
"If you want linux on the desktop then linux developers need to compete with MS. This includes making sure there is support for all types of multimedia, improving choice of games, improving window responsiveness, and all the other little MS UI elements that most *nix users would probably consider frivolous."
Hold on: Linux itself is a Kernel, you're talking application developers that like building on Linux in their free time, but guess what? These can also run on FreeBSD and sometimes even Windows too. Improving the choice of commercial games comes down to market conditions, right now games as in GPL ones are bountiful and some are pretty good. UI respo
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And joined the Air Force...
Actually no, but current economy makes one pause for thought.
StarTux
FYI:
http://www.s2games.com/
Will be releasing a Linux version at the same time; The game is Savage, go check it out. Looks pretty compelling for an online game.
StarTux
Not many movie sequences and you can still follow the plot without them...Oh and wine does play the few movies and once they arer played you'll realise just how blown out of proportion this is...
Saying that, this is a lesson in NOT using proprietry formats, use one that has better licensing.
StarTux
Yes its kinda hard to follow, but when you wathc those cut screens you're really not missing much.
Now wish radgames would pull their fingers out of there a$$ and make a codec for Bink and Linux...
Perhaps Bioware will make the moral choice and drop radgames for future games, I am sure they can find alternatives.
StarTux
No harm in learning both :).
./ trolls. The one you want is suse-linux-e@suse.com.
i st s/index.html
Games wise, check www.tuxgames.com and also www.happypenguin.com and www.linuxgames.com to get an idea. Games is one of its weakest areas, but thi year there has certainly been a pickup. Like with looking for a car, research first pays off later.
Yes you can be productive within 5 minutes of starting up, actually I was productive right away. Again this depends on what you do.
If you're going to get SuSE 8.2, which is what I use please do yourself a favor, sign up at the suse mailing list here to ask more questions and cut out the
http://www.suse.com/us/private/support/mailingl
Don't listen to anyone that says stay where you are comfortable, because you've shown an interest, why not try it out?
StarTux
Will this be made from the FTP version? Because otherwise you cannot charge anything for SuSE 8.2 because of the licensing of the Yast tools, unless you have permission first from SuSE.
Check your ACPI and also memory, 8.2 is just not that unstable...
I use Linux because of its advantages in speed, stability and configurability by the end user. I use Winex as a stop gap so I can play EverQuest with my wife. One of many things I have noticed with Winex is its resource hogging and lack of real stability, even between versions.
Ever notice that between versions some games that worked now no longer do so?
Finally, when Transgaming first started they stated that they would not compete with native ports, well that turned out to be a lie.
Winex is a strange beast, on one hand I see its value, on the other I can see its potential at destroying good solid ports. And native ports run faster, with a lot more stability than winex enabled games; finally, they help improve and mature other tools like OpenGL and things like SDL rather than just directx. Oh and before people say 90% of the desktops are Windows, well sales fell around 3% last year with regards to PC Games, I saw two whole isles at Fry's be given over to Country music. So in essence, if you make games for Mac and Linux you would have gained back those lost Windows sales and a little more and you would have entered a new market, rather than been where everyone else has been.
StarTux
Linux has lacked support from the online merchants with regards to music download;s. Is Lindows pushing Ogg Vorbis to these merchants as a viable alternative to MP3's? And is Lindows supporting any decent player for Linux that can use online merchants such as e-music or others?
Thanks,
StarTux
Let me guess the order of their victims:
1. IBM; Big and Blue
2. RedHat and SuSE; Arguably two of the most succesful distro's
3. Apple?
"A while ago, Hyperion Entertainment ported both Sin and Shogo: Mobile Armor Division to Linux. While they haven't ported any games to Linux recently, they were considering porting Tzar, but Linux gamers rejected that idea. That is sad, because Linux doesn't have an overabundance of real-time strategy games at the moment. I think that we shouldn't be so choosy when it comes to what we get ported, as we are a very small market as it is. I would have liked to buy Tzar, or any RTS game for that matter. I hope that Hyperion find something to port in the near future, as well as a publisher willing to support them. The more games we get, the better!"
Shogo had clipping issues, pretty large ones....Tzar was rejected because we're getting Disciples 2, wehich is similer but much better. Tzar didn't really offer anything unique.
StarTux
!Ding! Wrong...
This is along the lines of, "if you want to use office apps, use Microsoft Office", or in the early days, "if you want to use a networking aware OS you Windows NT".
Mac or Linux games would not get anywhere if you throw in the towel in and accept that fate. Sure neither are as good as the Windows landscape, but then companies aren't shy in admitting that they have to market Windows with its 90% share of the market, makes business sense.
Commercial Linux games are fine, indeed its coming a point where one cannot afford to buy them all...
This has not got much to do with the right tool for the right job, this seems to get many positive mod points here; That saying is great for things like databases where effects of scale come in.
Plus, you have a lot of personal preferences. Some people only really play 3D shooters, and in this respect Linux is well represented. In the arena of Simulations, yes Linux is lagging...But even on Windows there is so few new decent simulations coming out its depressing. Even games have slowed down.
Overall, why should people to be forced to buy extra for an OS just to runa few games? Makes no sense...
StarTux
Thats fine when you're not a bona fide monopoly...Having 90% or so of the desktop market changes everything with regards to this, they are indeed tying this product into the OS.
Also, its easy to say, "unsupported" rather than we sue you...
StarTux
Just in case peopel bottle this up with Linux Vs Microsoft, its not. It seems to be more Microsoft vs having apps made with their software running on a different system, which may in fact bypass there expensive solutions.
Also highlights another issue; Management at MS seems to be terrible, like we didn't know that. Seems to me to become a manager at MS one must hate the customer...
StarTux
So Slashdot, the movie died on one of these boards?
Can you imagine, Wil Wheaton playing CmdrTaco?
StarTux
As long as we can do a special DNS trick or proxy trick to Al-Jazeera :P
StarTux
As they may get some form of Democracy....Its sad that whilst we fight for "Freedom" in other countries the US internally is becoming more like the monster it is trying to fight.
StarTux
FreeBSD? Should try it, but I gave up on that when it crashed on my USB hub, which works in Linux with no issue.
:).
You're right and once again the incorrect "is it ready for the desktop" gets beaten again, and its obvious everyone is trying to say desktop covers everything gui related. Best thing imho is to try as many different OS's out there to see which tastes better.
Even with Linux's faults I find it better to use and more fun than Winxx, or Mac 10.2 Jaguar (and I never liked 9 and its ilk). Just my personal preference
StarTux
Unlike most here I work for a desktop orientated company and the first sentence hit the nail on the head:
Pre-install
Or shall I say, "its the pre-install stupid"
When bundled with the hardware and the software tweaked around the market you're aiming for most, if not all, these issues raised would become moot.
Perhaps they should try a Wal-Mart machine?
StarTux
Perhaps this will get more people interested in politics...
StarTux
SuSE 8.1 or below should use the FTP site to download the RPM's for the driver, I believe it has something to do with interoperability of the new Loki style installer and Sax2.
:). But in the US 8.2 won't ship until mid-april.
SuSE 8.2 users should be fine
StarTux
What does this have to do with the Nvidia installer?
:).
Really I am not looking back 1.5 years ago to see how things go when I get a new card, which hopefully will be one of the new FX cards.
Is the FX actually out yet? If it is not then Nvidia have released a driver that enables use of the card before it even hits the shelves...This can only be a good thing, well one would think so
StarTux
This either a troll, or someone who really lacks experience:
:).
"I have limited experience (managed to install and set up RH 8.0 as a router for my home network) with linux but here are a few thoughts."
So you have thoughts on something you really haven't used?
"Linux is not ready for the dsesktop. The recent discussion about mozilla incorporating smooth scrolling illustrates a fundamental problem within the linux community. Most *nix users who want to see linux replace windows on the desktop aren't willing to compete with MS in the areas which really matter to a non techie user. Many people here laughed and scorned the screenshots of the recent longhorn builds where you had lots of new UI features, admittedly most of them will probably not amount to anything but the UI does matter."
First of all, which desktop are you talking about? If you're talking about the ability to throw on an MP3 player purchased from Fry's you're probably right, but thats just one area. Seperate this into a multimedia desktop, but the ability is there as one can easily play MP3's or Ogg's quite easily on an install. Using XP's desktop is a nightmare, one which is poorly laid and and illogical. OS X's Aqua is the better one, but it lacks the configurability of KDE at this time.
"For a non techie user the choice at the moment is windows which is very easy to use but is prone to crashes amnd viruses, alternatively they have linux which is very difficult to get the hang of when coming from a windows background. Reliability means nothing if the user can't get anything done with linux. I'm no MS fanboy but I do beleive that they have gone in the right direction with the XP interface, and I also don't think you can really argue with the fact that games, multimedia and simple office apps are all easier to use for a non techie user on a windows platform."
That first line is actually bs. Non techie's have no choice as installing a new OS is something most will not want to do, so there only choice on a PC (x86 version); Windows. Of course a little more savvy one can shop online at Wal-Mart, but do they know these exist? Nope, so you have your Dell's and Gateway's, of course not a Linux in sight. On the other PC (PPC) you get Mac OS, again if you are savvy you can get Linux with it from Terrasoft...As for relativity to Windows, yes but this doesn't just affect Linux in any way, do you know anyone who moved from OS 9 to OS X? Same deal there. As for the arguments about games, multimedia and simple office apps...Well games are so easy I just click on the games section in my menu and play from there, really easy. Installing the games is usually in the instructions, mount cd and run a few commands and from my experience with users that is actually easier to use and to help with
"Now whether MS dominace is down to a genuinely more instinctive UI or whether people are just more familiar with it (and hence more productive) is down to debate. I'm sure many linux advocates will dismiss the idea that MS's windows UI is "better" that any of linux distos but they are reeally missing the point."
That is the biggest load of crap I have read in awhile. The answer is this:
pre-load, pre-load, advertise on TV, pre-load. Its not a UI issue whatsoever, sure familiarity comes in later, but right now that isn't stopping people.
"If you want linux on the desktop then linux developers need to compete with MS. This includes making sure there is support for all types of multimedia, improving choice of games, improving window responsiveness, and all the other little MS UI elements that most *nix users would probably consider frivolous."
Hold on: Linux itself is a Kernel, you're talking application developers that like building on Linux in their free time, but guess what? These can also run on FreeBSD and sometimes even Windows too. Improving the choice of commercial games comes down to market conditions, right now games as in GPL ones are bountiful and some are pretty good. UI respo
Good question...Perhaps Duke Nukem which is taking forever has been so beaten to death it just ain't gonna fool anyone anymore.
:).
Perhaps they should release next year on April 1? No-one would ever believe it
StarTux
To get full marks one must link to it:
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http://nwvault.ign.com/features/reviews/data/10
StarTux