Most of the sites mentioned (like Ars, Anand, Tom's, and so forth) are targeted towards the "enthusiast" market. They're the people who go out and but new motherboards, video cards, and so on, and they tweak constantly.
No kidding. My wife asked for a laptop a few years back - to quote, "You won't hork around with it". Some folks just don't care to have a hard drive, video card, etc upgrade every few months.... sigh
Yeah. Everyone knows that the average computer buyer just wants a bare-bones platform on which they can roll their own browser, media player, photo editor, etc.
After media player phoning home and every other "add on" becoming another way to thumbprint my hardware - its getting old. Yah, I trust them to know that a StittsPlayboy.avi is really about me sowing fabric on an old airplane wing - along with anyone else if Microsoft's datastore ever was hacked and pushed out to my boss and anyone else on my email system.
I don't expect to build binaries - hell, I don't even do it on my Linux workstation if I can get an RPM. Since most of my boxes are hooked up to the net, I really prefer to have a base OS and then add the apps I want - games, utils, MP3 players, etc - since I don't really want/trust most of these apps that are bundled with the OS. Mind you, this applies to Linux as well! After getting rooted - I quickly discovered to love the minimal slackware install for my CS server... got to know what apps are in there to keep the code patched. That goes double for any "internet enabled" applications - expecially the ones I never knew may connect.
Set up tomcat/w SOAP, and show a simple VB app or ASP page interacting with a "hello world" SOAP call. Real world, simple setup, shows the potential to mix environments...
Ah, well... OK, I'm making EJB's - running a copy of Weblogic, Oracle, and VisualAge - along with a buch of other stuff. As it can take several minutes for the portal server to start up, I'll keep the "typical" end user machine waiting for testing and hang onto the fast box for development. I suspect we differ on our interpretation of snappy...
I must keep you away from the appropriations committee. If my wife even had a hint that a GF4 may not really be needed for coding, I could loose my funding! (grin)
I'm a long time fan - so don't take this wrong. I dis-believe. There is no way you can be running Win2K with Visual Studio 6, a current version of IE, and any services (like IIS or a db) running on a p-180 and call it zippy. Might be stable enough - but oh, the pain! I give my brother hardware like that to chop up into whatever he is calling art that week. Hate to break this to you , but if you are trying to use a p-180 to do code - you are a long way from the 90% yourself.
Heck, I'm typing this on a slow p-600 w/512M RAM. It is headed to the server room to run nothing more than a linux cs server as it is way at the bottom of my hardware food chain. A 1G duron should not cost much over $50 these days....
I can almost see dropping a floppy drive, but a ps2 keyboard and mouse? I use a USB keyboard and mouse on my laptop, but it does take a fair bit more CPU cycles to use the USB version over the ps2. Mind you, a few seconds longer to boot weblogic is not a huge deal, but like those silly winmodems - why waste it on something like a keyboard and mouse? It is not like this board is headed for "almost embedded" solutions like the 170mmx170mm mainboards I plan to toss in my car.
Jumping over to The Register But is the site itself entirely clean? The server yesterday revealed that some interesting ports were left open. The most interesting of which is port 3306, which is used by MySQL and Postgres. Since wehavethewayout.com was a BSD/Apache combination, it was almost certainly running an open source database, too. While Unisys has switched the front-end server to Windows IIS, the most likely explanation for keeping this port open is that the back-end still interfaces to a MySQL database. MySQL is cross platform, and there's a Windows version too. This would certainly make for a rapid port, as it doesn't require a rewrite of the cgi scripts.
Lets not throw stones here... can anyone say they never "lifted" some javascript code from a site and put it in something they were working on - sans credit, copyright notice, GPL, etc?
You want to write you own - do so. Lord knows we all have been asked to do this same sort of thing at one point or another. By charging a nominal fee - and it really is once you toss in docs, testing, and all the other nasty stuff no one really likes to do - it makes it easy to fold it into your company's codebase. I know I have contacted developers to use there code, paid them off, and embedded things like uploading into my apps. Not everyone wants someone elses name when they view source (grin)...
I fail to see how this is going to make corporate users switch over to Linux. I also fail to see how this is reducing the need for Microsoft software.
Office is _THE_KILLER_APP_ for Windows. Email, surfing, and most everything else has options on multiple platforms. I would dare say Office for the Mac is a huge reason Apple is growing outside the multimedia developers.
People can try to guess the word formats, but they never seem to be quite right (same goes for any other word processor importing and exporting formats for that matter). If the app runs well under Linux or Mac, that knocks over a huge wall.
Really opening the office formats would really hit Bill hard - Office tends to carry much of the company's revinue. This just makes the OS not matter (as much). You think companies get to pay the OEM price? Bah ha ha ha.... They usually pay that, then again when they image it, and then again (yearly) with a "enterprise agreement". The imaging "tax" changed some time last year, but it does add up - more than $50..
connection. That was almost ten years ago. The company set up a demo in the board room that ran the client on the same box as the server (dual PPro200).
Funny, after we bought it all the support calls worked via pay-by-minute software. Sucked to be one of those trying to do non-nature show streaming video at the time. Ah, can you give us any reference accounts (wicked grins - and a lot of pr0n later...)
The worst for me (personal) was what Matrox did with the G400 Marvel - a nice bit of kit for video capture under Win98. Drivers were promised - a Win2K version was comming - and in the end, they turn the card into nothing more than a TV-Tuner if you want to run under Win2K. Very nice. (grrrr) Win9x was no treat with large files and what not... not the OS for (low end) video editing. When push came to shove, they pointed out it never actually said they supported Win2K - though they sure as hell hinted.
They "offered" a credit to buy the Marvel G450(?) for ~$250 (about what you paid on-line anyhow) that only did software encoding rather than the hardware encoding the G400 would do.
May they rot in hell.... Not that I'm bitter, 'cause I'm not.
The Windows API - embodied in Win32 - simply has troubles if you "remote" it.
What do you mean? I've found that it is very easy to do most command line tasks with nothing more than a remote web browser after someone told me about the nifty "code red" tools that came pre-configured with my AOL subscription...
The Scientologists don't mention it much, but y'know that L. Ron Hubbard is dead, right? Not much chance of him allowing or not allowing anything at the present moment.
If there was ever a sure-fire way to bring back the dead, battlefield earth would do it. If nothing else, you could probably hear him rolling around...
These are government boxes.... With the exception of the hard core secured stuff, most of these boxes are not known for 1337 security... It would be fair to assume you could find a.gov spam relay wide open.
As far as checking, when was the last time you actually checked a digital cert to see if it was revoked? Joe Six-Pack keeps trying to send me a "security update" from microsoft.... If they miss that one, I don't have high hopes for checking an email.
hours work. I signed such a contract a few years back, and went to the legal department letting them know I built an AD&D util for the palm. I reminded them that the letter of our contract made it sound like they must be mentioned in the license, and asked if that is what they really intended. If it was, I was going to need the license copy for my Devil and Demon Generator. You can get them to amend things later;)
CS is about the only digital addition that keeps me booting into Windows. Its worth noting that the CS link is for the Server, not the Client, which beats the snot off of the Windows version (especially since they neutered the TCP/IP stack again with SP2).
on this one. How the heck am I spose to find a bunch of "hardly used" sun sunblades on the cheap for personal use? In this new age of fiscal responsibility and limited cash, there is no way I can convince managment I need one of these as a MP3^H^H^Hsendmail server....
IANAL, but with the various IM clients having some serious security issues lately - not quite as bad as some other proggies out there, but in Joe six-pack's hands about the same level of Outlook Express - you would think the defense would be "I did not do it" rather than "you can't listen in".
It is way too easy to have something forged, or worse, proxied through your account compared to how people wet themselves over a one in ten billion chance a DNA match may be invalid. Assuming Innocence, of course, you would figure there is a reasonable doubt option....
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Most of the sites mentioned (like Ars, Anand, Tom's, and so forth) are targeted towards the "enthusiast" market. They're the people who go out and but new motherboards, video cards, and so on, and they tweak constantly.
No kidding. My wife asked for a laptop a few years back - to quote, "You won't hork around with it". Some folks just don't care to have a hard drive, video card, etc upgrade every few months.... sigh
Yeah. Everyone knows that the average computer buyer just wants a bare-bones platform on which they can roll their own browser, media player, photo editor, etc.
After media player phoning home and every other "add on" becoming another way to thumbprint my hardware - its getting old. Yah, I trust them to know that a StittsPlayboy.avi is really about me sowing fabric on an old airplane wing - along with anyone else if Microsoft's datastore ever was hacked and pushed out to my boss and anyone else on my email system.
I don't expect to build binaries - hell, I don't even do it on my Linux workstation if I can get an RPM. Since most of my boxes are hooked up to the net, I really prefer to have a base OS and then add the apps I want - games, utils, MP3 players, etc - since I don't really want/trust most of these apps that are bundled with the OS. Mind you, this applies to Linux as well! After getting rooted - I quickly discovered to love the minimal slackware install for my CS server... got to know what apps are in there to keep the code patched. That goes double for any "internet enabled" applications - expecially the ones I never knew may connect.
Set up tomcat /w SOAP, and show a simple VB app or ASP page interacting with a "hello world" SOAP call. Real world, simple setup, shows the potential to mix environments...
Ah, well... OK, I'm making EJB's - running a copy of Weblogic, Oracle, and VisualAge - along with a buch of other stuff. As it can take several minutes for the portal server to start up, I'll keep the "typical" end user machine waiting for testing and hang onto the fast box for development. I suspect we differ on our interpretation of snappy...
I must keep you away from the appropriations committee. If my wife even had a hint that a GF4 may not really be needed for coding, I could loose my funding! (grin)
I'm a long time fan - so don't take this wrong. I dis-believe. There is no way you can be running Win2K with Visual Studio 6, a current version of IE, and any services (like IIS or a db) running on a p-180 and call it zippy. Might be stable enough - but oh, the pain! I give my brother hardware like that to chop up into whatever he is calling art that week. Hate to break this to you , but if you are trying to use a p-180 to do code - you are a long way from the 90% yourself.
Heck, I'm typing this on a slow p-600 w/512M RAM. It is headed to the server room to run nothing more than a linux cs server as it is way at the bottom of my hardware food chain. A 1G duron should not cost much over $50 these days....
I can almost see dropping a floppy drive, but a ps2 keyboard and mouse? I use a USB keyboard and mouse on my laptop, but it does take a fair bit more CPU cycles to use the USB version over the ps2. Mind you, a few seconds longer to boot weblogic is not a huge deal, but like those silly winmodems - why waste it on something like a keyboard and mouse? It is not like this board is headed for "almost embedded" solutions like the 170mmx170mm mainboards I plan to toss in my car.
Someone else is already posting a reg-free version of the site. http://www.asahi.com/english/nyt/technology.html here for a banner ad supported version of the site...
Cool, now I can "back-up" myself :D
I prefer the old school way myself (grin)...
Jumping over to The Register
But is the site itself entirely clean? The server yesterday revealed that some interesting ports were left open. The most interesting of which is port 3306, which is used by MySQL and Postgres. Since wehavethewayout.com was a BSD/Apache combination, it was almost certainly running an open source database, too. While Unisys has switched the front-end server to Windows IIS, the most likely explanation for keeping this port open is that the back-end still interfaces to a MySQL database. MySQL is cross platform, and there's a Windows version too. This would certainly make for a rapid port, as it doesn't require a rewrite of the cgi scripts.
Oh, will the pain never end (grin)...
Lets not throw stones here... can anyone say they never "lifted" some javascript code from a site and put it in something they were working on - sans credit, copyright notice, GPL, etc?
You want to write you own - do so. Lord knows we all have been asked to do this same sort of thing at one point or another. By charging a nominal fee - and it really is once you toss in docs, testing, and all the other nasty stuff no one really likes to do - it makes it easy to fold it into your company's codebase. I know I have contacted developers to use there code, paid them off, and embedded things like uploading into my apps. Not everyone wants someone elses name when they view source (grin)...
I fail to see how this is going to make corporate users switch over to Linux. I also fail to see how this is reducing the need for Microsoft software.
Office is _THE_KILLER_APP_ for Windows. Email, surfing, and most everything else has options on multiple platforms. I would dare say Office for the Mac is a huge reason Apple is growing outside the multimedia developers.
People can try to guess the word formats, but they never seem to be quite right (same goes for any other word processor importing and exporting formats for that matter). If the app runs well under Linux or Mac, that knocks over a huge wall.
Really opening the office formats would really hit Bill hard - Office tends to carry much of the company's revinue. This just makes the OS not matter (as much). You think companies get to pay the OEM price? Bah ha ha ha.... They usually pay that, then again when they image it, and then again (yearly) with a "enterprise agreement". The imaging "tax" changed some time last year, but it does add up - more than $50..
I think (and it has been a long time) it was WebCast Pro - by Gallacticomm(?)
connection. That was almost ten years ago. The company set up a demo in the board room that ran the client on the same box as the server (dual PPro200).
Funny, after we bought it all the support calls worked via pay-by-minute software. Sucked to be one of those trying to do non-nature show streaming video at the time. Ah, can you give us any reference accounts (wicked grins - and a lot of pr0n later...)
The worst for me (personal) was what Matrox did with the G400 Marvel - a nice bit of kit for video capture under Win98. Drivers were promised - a Win2K version was comming - and in the end, they turn the card into nothing more than a TV-Tuner if you want to run under Win2K. Very nice. (grrrr) Win9x was no treat with large files and what not... not the OS for (low end) video editing. When push came to shove, they pointed out it never actually said they supported Win2K - though they sure as hell hinted.
They "offered" a credit to buy the Marvel G450(?) for ~$250 (about what you paid on-line anyhow) that only did software encoding rather than the hardware encoding the G400 would do.
May they rot in hell.... Not that I'm bitter, 'cause I'm not.
copy of the movies, but I bet they never paid the DVD licensing fees either. Oh dear, what about the children...
The Windows API - embodied in Win32 - simply has troubles if you "remote" it.
What do you mean? I've found that it is very easy to do most command line tasks with nothing more than a remote web browser after someone told me about the nifty "code red" tools that came pre-configured with my AOL subscription...
The Scientologists don't mention it much, but y'know that L. Ron Hubbard is dead, right? Not much chance of him allowing or not allowing anything at the present moment.
If there was ever a sure-fire way to bring back the dead, battlefield earth would do it. If nothing else, you could probably hear him rolling around...
Headers never lie.
.gov spam relay wide open.
These are government boxes.... With the exception of the hard core secured stuff, most of these boxes are not known for 1337 security... It would be fair to assume you could find a
As far as checking, when was the last time you actually checked a digital cert to see if it was revoked? Joe Six-Pack keeps trying to send me a "security update" from microsoft.... If they miss that one, I don't have high hopes for checking an email.
Very cool! I will give it a try this weekend.
hours work. I signed such a contract a few years back, and went to the legal department letting them know I built an AD&D util for the palm. I reminded them that the letter of our contract made it sound like they must be mentioned in the license, and asked if that is what they really intended. If it was, I was going to need the license copy for my Devil and Demon Generator. You can get them to amend things later ;)
CS is about the only digital addition that keeps me booting into Windows. Its worth noting that the CS link is for the Server, not the Client, which beats the snot off of the Windows version (especially since they neutered the TCP/IP stack again with SP2).
I would love to see a Linux client.
on this one. How the heck am I spose to find a bunch of "hardly used" sun sunblades on the cheap for personal use? In this new age of fiscal responsibility and limited cash, there is no way I can convince managment I need one of these as a MP3^H^H^Hsendmail server....
As you wish! Check out http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/os/li nux/lcds/index.html and you can sign up for a chuck of a linux powered big iron... They even toss in some of their software. Very cool.
IANAL, but with the various IM clients having some serious security issues lately - not quite as bad as some other proggies out there, but in Joe six-pack's hands about the same level of Outlook Express - you would think the defense would be "I did not do it" rather than "you can't listen in".
It is way too easy to have something forged, or worse, proxied through your account compared to how people wet themselves over a one in ten billion chance a DNA match may be invalid. Assuming Innocence, of course, you would figure there is a reasonable doubt option....
Those "Western Companies" should be ashamed of themselves.
I have to wonder if they added any "extra features" like the Boeing 767-300ER767 with additional audio equipment.
Nah, they would never do something like that...