It's too bad the replicators had to become a writer's tool.
In some episodes, they can pretty much replicated everything and anything. In others, and you can't... because they need to cause conflict/issues/etc to be resolved.
However, if they can transmute elements, or create elements by converting energy to specific atoms, then they should be resolved, yes? And, they CAN do that, because the transporter sends anything and everything everywhere. They can convert the most complex weapon, medical scanner, medicine, electronic device, anything and everything, but apparently the replicators can't do so?
The human body alone has trace elements and complex molecules all over the place.
So, iridium can certainly be created from energy in their time.
However, I agree, something is going to be scarce. How about original, non-copied artwork originals... created by a specific human? That sort of thing.
That does not make this thread's OP incorrect in using it. It does mean, though, that you've essentially dropped to character assassination, simply because you don't like him using it in the recently dictionary validated way.
Now that the usage is officially correct, after being added to many dictionaries over the last few years, people need to just get over it. That means, that when someone uses it, changing:
"I *hate* that, it is incorrect usage"
to
"I *hate* that, it *should* be incorrect usage, so I'll make up some arbitrary insult about that usage, due to my emotional dislike of it in that context."
is quite.... unfair? Stubborn? Self-satisfying? Not sure which, but something akin to those.
Realistically, you (and others in this thread) that dislike this word, in this usage, are suffering from "old man" syndrome.
The world is changing! Everything has gone to weed! Bah!
Embrace change, in a dynamic language.
NOTE: I say this as someone that *hates* incorrect usage. Its versus it's is my big "bah". I keep posting crap like this:
"How to keep its and it's straight! It is the same as hers and his. Why?
Well, my premise is that it used to be "hes", but morphed to 'his' over the years. So:
he => hes => his her => hers it => its"
So.. I DO SYMPATHIZE. However, if its and it's were somehow merged in the dictionary, I think I'd have to give it up.
The war is over. The battle is lost. There is no going back, no reversion, for literally all eternity, literally has changed.;)
The best you can hope for at this point, is that in a few hundred years dictionaries change that second definition to 'archaic'.. like I've seen for some other words.
I might add, the concept that an add on to an alarm system, one that can trigger alarms or silence them, should receive automatic updates without any way to intervene, is bizarre.
Envisacorp couldn't comprehend that some users might want to control that process. To be able to rollback. To not have forced updates. And, as is always the case with such a policy, there were lots of 'this update did this!' complaints in their support forum. Which is another vital reason why one might want to firewall of their IP.
(And, frankly, firewalls should be inclusive not exclusive, so they were just firewalled off by default.. another thing that they found confusing. Great for a security system company, yes?)
Frankly, these guys didn't even get the concept that security should be involved in an alarm system. For example, their web page portal is http, and they also have telnet. Bah.
There are lots of IP/Net modules that you can connect to traditional alarm systems. These often allow IP based control over the alarm system, reporting, etc.
Just be careful what system you buy. I bought an envisacor add on to my alarm system, and it's fairly poor. Worse, they insist on phoning home (not to the alarm center, but to their corporate center), and if you firewall of their IP.. their system reboots every 15 minutes.
(Why would I want an external 3rd party entity I don't even know, receiving unknown data about my alarm system is incomprehensible. Especially considering that this includes when the system is armed and disarmed, when specific zones are triggered (think motion detectors as you walk about the house), and more. Including, for some systems, listening to audio and watching video! Heh!))
Anyhow, there is no way to control/alter that behaviour. Couple that with poor envisacor support, and you won't be happy. So, definitely stick with something usable.
That said, yes.. it can be nice to integrate, but really -- get a real alarm center. You don't want to get an SMS or email saying "ZONE 1 OPEN" (your front door), then have to ssh into something to see what the situation is, then decide if you want to call the police, etc.
Once I got past the lame shortcoming of the envisacor module, I scripted things so that I only get SMS alerts for network events when I'm not at home. My phone is off when I'm at home, so nothing was more annoying than 100 SMS messages when I turned the thing on...
So, sure, lots of things you vcan do. As well as SSH in to your home, and remotely disarm the system if someone visits...
And I might add -- the whole point of my above statement, is simply this.
If women don't want to be in the field, WHO CARES. All that is important is that there are no blockers if a woman DOES want to be in the field, and she is capable.
That's it. Anything else is an INSULT to women. The thought process that "We need to HELP these POOR, INCOMPETENT, TIMID creatures get into a workplace" is absurd beyond comprehension.
Women are STRONG. They don't need YOUR help, or ANYONE's help, as long as artificial blockers to employment are not in place.
As for language, and "how people act", what the hell man? I've met women that are far more foul then men. If you want the workplace to change, then fine, it can change. But it had better not change for one sex or the other, but for logical reasons.
No, it is very much different. Your example of sameness (help clients and keep things running smoothly) could be said of computing versus hvac equipment. So what if you still help clients? You do that at McDonalds too! So what if you have to maintain something?
You have to maintain and keep any number of things running smoothly, from a slushie machine to a high end server farm. That doesn't make them the same, but good try at trying to pretend that someone could be parachuted in from 30+ years ago, or even 20 years ago, and be able to do the job today.
No. Way. It is an ENTIRELY new field. New management techniques. A new place in the business place. More widespread. More complex, by FAR in a variety of different ways.
But all of this is a red herring! Who the hell cares how many people of what type were in the computing field $x years ago. It is an utterly meaningless metric. So many things change over decades, not only the field itself, but society as a whole, schools, societal norms, you name it!
Yet, you're picking on some unrelated example, and thinking that it has to do with what's inside. It isn't. Look at the world in its entirety.
Perhaps there are good, high paying jobs in other fields? Perhaps there are fewer women that want to be in the workplace? Or, any number of things?
Further -- sexism is about equal opportunity, not equality. Women are NOT men. They are NOT THE SAME as men. At all! Why?
Because we're using the plural, and the plural allows one to use statistics to validate data on large sets.
Individually? Sure, there are smart women, educated women, women that WANT to be educated, and women that beat out men in many metrics. Equality is all about ensuring that even though metrics exist, that stipulate that a certain group tends to be "this way", that the *individual* gets the change to show their own skillset.
So, it is absolutely, 100% not wrong to say "Women are not well suited to technology fields in general". Because it is *true*.
The very important thing, however, is that "no one is left behind" due to the above valid assertion. Because yeah, individually, there are some kick ass women out there, in this field -- and others that can contribute equally well.
I keep hearing how women used to be large part of the programming community.
Yet, sure, when it was LITERALLY MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF TIMES SMALLER!
It's like comparing how many people worked creating clothing, centuries back. Yup, a lot more of them were men.
Now they're women or children in third world nations. There is LITERALLY NO COMPARISON!
Programming 30 years ago, was so different in environment, in the way it was done, the languages, what you needed to know, the work methodology... that it was an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT FIELD!
Equality isn't declining. It never existed. So, ask yourself, why?
In Quebec, Ontario and BC (places I've lived), school zones have speed restrictions, but only when defined. In Quebec, for example, that's 8am to 5pm, Monday to Friday, September to June. All to 30kmph signs say just this, too.
And here, travelling more than 15kmph under the speed limit is ticketable too.
Yes, I most certain do "honestly, seriously" sometimes wonder that.
"Wonder", in this context, can be understood to mean many things. Including, speculative thinking.
Speculative thinking is at the heart of all invention, all development, all creation.
It is often called 'an imagination', which often can bear fertile fruit and great change to society. Other times, it provides amusement and entertainment. Sometimes, when you think of something poorly implemented, and put forward without technical merits, you try to think of why such a thing might exist. You wonder "what if".
But of course you are just a troll, looking for any way to criticize any form of speech you can... so, I suppose there is little point mentioning this to you.
While I would not draw a clock as per the example image, I've always been *crappy beyond belief* at drawing circles, you name it. Hell, my hand writing makes chicken scratch look like fine art.
For the circle, I'd get the numbers in the approximate correct place, you know, put 9 and 3 and 12 and 6 in first -- but, I can imagine people that never really drew much, perhaps not even thinking about that ahead of time.
So yeah, my circle might be as misshapen as the one in the example article. And, someone that is poor at makin' a circle as me, but has also never thought of the clock-draw, pre-set your numbers concept -- may do just as the example did.
My point is that the pen is an excellent idea, but the doctor's subjective opinion is a detractor AND an benefit. The pen will get rid of both sides of the equation. I'm not sure how accurate it will be, and it may be more of a 'this is a cool product!" that isn't wanted or needed.
(I'm willing to bet that if you ask many doctors, they'll say "My educated, well informed opinion on test outcome is a benefit, not a detractor!")
But, this article is about a single, uniform, unchanging temperature that is slated to be 'perfect' for everyone. Which is silly, but under that context you stated that it was to 'save money'.
If you want to alter that statement (as you have), then fine...
I've seen people completely fail at this task. This seems to fall into two categories.
1) People with unhelpful spouses, which are home a lot. Constant interruptions, not understanding that home does NOT mean that you are actually HOME! Thinking that if something is urgent, it is OK to bug / talk to / etc. Heck, sometimes the worker finds this interaction enjoyable, making it harder to say no. Which can easily lead to failure.
2) Some people are quite simply put, unable to work at home without being at home. They can't get into the work mindset, no matter how much they try. For myself, taking that morning shower, and behaving as if I'm about to leave for work, helps quite a bit. It seems to kick the body into drive, and get me going.
However, it can't be stressed enough.. you are NOT at home, you are AT WORK! People think of sitting around in their bathrobe all day, and sure one can do that, but is that really the state of mind that will engender you to work hard? To think of time away from your chair, as cheating?
On the other side of the coin, I've found that I hate working from home in the summer, and enjoy it in the winter. The winter, with -40C -- well, the reasons are obvious. The summer? Well, there's a lot to see on the way to work, it's pleasant and nice to get out.
Overall, it's a plus. However, if you do not have a supportive family -- just give up right now. You're not going to be successful.
Our bodies require a specific amount of protein, fat, and various trace elements daily. Protein specifically, will be stolen from muscles to keep organs healthy, if there is a deficit.
If the food is formulated incorrectly, you need more of it to get that base requirement.
Women, often having less muscle on their body, require a different diet than men. And sure, there are variations in metabolism and absorbtion....
So, I wonder what the diet was? One prepared scientifically, or one conforming to political silliness.
Hate is most certainly deserved. How you treat someone, hate or not -- well, that's a different matter.
However, part of the 'hate' aspect is that the way that systemd is making it into the kernel, and into every distro, is not based upon traditional meritocratic principles. It is not that Lennart is not skilled, merely that he holds incredible influence and political power through Redhat. And, that Redhat's power and tendrils spread everywhere, including the Gnome foundation.
This political power is FORCING systemd into distros. Some distros (like Debian) are doing what they can to defang systemd and including it... but it becomes more onerous daily.
Without this political power, systemd would NOT be where it is today. It would ABSOLUTELY not be in Debian, and many other distros. While you may contests some of my points above, one thing that is an actual fact is that this is the key reason for the hate.
Not the software. Not the quality of the product. Rather, the use of political power (intended or not!) based upon Redhat's money, instead of based upon merit. And yet, Redhat has done a lot of things for the community based upon that money, but this one is a TRAGEDY. And, that political power is bypassing all of the traditional checks and bounds the community has, which would normally FORCE an author of a product to shape up, or see his product ostracized!
And that, most certainly, is deserving of hate. And further? It isn't only Lennart that my hate is targeted ate. I see him as a problem, and Redhat as the real target.
Lastly. Redhat. I started with Redhat 4 (not RHEL) in 96. I switched to Debian as soon as possible, because back then? Debian wasn't just twice the product, or 10 times the product... Redhat was a *joke* comparatively.
It should be known, and it *is* known by anyone with a sense of history, that Redhat and most other commercialized distros learned MANY THINGS from Debian. The list of firsts is endless. The adoption by Redhat and others, was a constant catch-up game.
Fast forward almost 20 years. As expected, many of the 'core' things, such as online updates (yum = apt), automatic dependency resolution, installation of a distro in a 'secure' state, the list goes on, have been adopted by Redhat. And, in my profession, I work with many distros on a daily basis.
And Redhat? Every time I work with it, I find bugs that you would never find in Debian. Every. Single. Time. Their QA process is not up to snuff. Hell, I've even run into *their own configuration tools* not working, on a point release (should be more bugs squashed), and this from a company with the cash for QA that Redhat has!
My point? This poor dev methodology is showing with the hap-hazard adoption of systemd by Redhat. Its inclusion and dependency by Gnome, via Redhat's influence, is a CLEAR indicator of the problems internal to development at Redhat. What baked design philosophy would allow for a dependency on a project that has *no* *clear* *design* *specification*. Systemd has grown enormously, has morphed and changed repeatedly, and before it has even stabilized as a product?
Everything depends upon it?!
This is so ass backwards, it is like designing a car body, when the size, power, or weight distribution of the engine has not even been determined!
No. Hate is deserved. How you treat someone, hate or not -- well, that's a different matter.
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It's too bad the replicators had to become a writer's tool.
In some episodes, they can pretty much replicated everything and anything. In others, and you can't... because they need to cause conflict/issues/etc to be resolved.
However, if they can transmute elements, or create elements by converting energy to specific atoms, then they should be resolved, yes? And, they CAN do that, because the transporter sends anything and everything everywhere. They can convert the most complex weapon, medical scanner, medicine, electronic device, anything and everything, but apparently the replicators can't do so?
The human body alone has trace elements and complex molecules all over the place.
So, iridium can certainly be created from energy in their time.
However, I agree, something is going to be scarce. How about original, non-copied artwork originals... created by a specific human? That sort of thing.
That does not make this thread's OP incorrect in using it. It does mean, though, that you've essentially dropped to character assassination, simply because you don't like him using it in the recently dictionary validated way.
Now that the usage is officially correct, after being added to many dictionaries over the last few years, people need to just get over it. That means, that when someone uses it, changing:
"I *hate* that, it is incorrect usage"
to
"I *hate* that, it *should* be incorrect usage, so I'll make up some arbitrary insult about that usage, due to my emotional dislike of it in that context."
is quite .... unfair? Stubborn? Self-satisfying? Not sure which, but something akin to those.
Realistically, you (and others in this thread) that dislike this word, in this usage, are suffering from "old man" syndrome.
The world is changing! Everything has gone to weed! Bah!
Embrace change, in a dynamic language.
NOTE: I say this as someone that *hates* incorrect usage. Its versus it's is my big "bah". I keep posting crap like this:
"How to keep its and it's straight! It is the same as hers and his. Why?
Well, my premise is that it used to be "hes", but morphed to 'his' over the years. So:
he => hes => his
her => hers
it => its"
So.. I DO SYMPATHIZE. However, if its and it's were somehow merged in the dictionary, I think I'd have to give it up.
The war is over. The battle is lost. There is no going back, no reversion, for literally all eternity, literally has changed. ;)
The best you can hope for at this point, is that in a few hundred years dictionaries change that second definition to 'archaic'.. like I've seen for some other words.
2 :in effect :virtually
http://i.word.com/idictionary/...
http://theweek.com/articles/46...
Words can means more than one thing. Literally is now ALSO = figuratively.
It's over. Multiple dictictionaries say so. Suck it up and deal with it, his usage was 100%, literally correct.
English is dynamic, a living language.
I might add, the concept that an add on to an alarm system, one that can trigger alarms or silence them, should receive automatic updates without any way to intervene, is bizarre.
Envisacorp couldn't comprehend that some users might want to control that process. To be able to rollback. To not have forced updates. And, as is always the case with such a policy, there were lots of 'this update did this!' complaints in their support forum. Which is another vital reason why one might want to firewall of their IP.
(And, frankly, firewalls should be inclusive not exclusive, so they were just firewalled off by default.. another thing that they found confusing. Great for a security system company, yes?)
Frankly, these guys didn't even get the concept that security should be involved in an alarm system. For example, their web page portal is http, and they also have telnet. Bah.
There are lots of IP/Net modules that you can connect to traditional alarm systems. These often allow IP based control over the alarm system, reporting, etc.
Just be careful what system you buy. I bought an envisacor add on to my alarm system, and it's fairly poor. Worse, they insist on phoning home (not to the alarm center, but to their corporate center), and if you firewall of their IP.. their system reboots every 15 minutes.
(Why would I want an external 3rd party entity I don't even know, receiving unknown data about my alarm system is incomprehensible. Especially considering that this includes when the system is armed and disarmed, when specific zones are triggered (think motion detectors as you walk about the house), and more. Including, for some systems, listening to audio and watching video! Heh!))
Anyhow, there is no way to control/alter that behaviour. Couple that with poor envisacor support, and you won't be happy. So, definitely stick with something usable.
That said, yes.. it can be nice to integrate, but really -- get a real alarm center. You don't want to get an SMS or email saying "ZONE 1 OPEN" (your front door), then have to ssh into something to see what the situation is, then decide if you want to call the police, etc.
Once I got past the lame shortcoming of the envisacor module, I scripted things so that I only get SMS alerts for network events when I'm not at home. My phone is off when I'm at home, so nothing was more annoying than 100 SMS messages when I turned the thing on...
So, sure, lots of things you vcan do. As well as SSH in to your home, and remotely disarm the system if someone visits...
Bwhahahahah.
BWHAHAHAHAHA.
Erm. Here's something to LITERALLY drive you insane! ;)
With the way literally is being used, quite literally it will soon have a new meaning added to high profile dictionaries.
And then literally will also mean literally, and you'll go mad with frustration. ;)
TAKE THAT SIR! TAKE THAT, and find yourself in a corner, shivering and curled up in a ball of denial.
Hehe. Sorry, it's too early here.
And I might add -- the whole point of my above statement, is simply this.
If women don't want to be in the field, WHO CARES. All that is important is that there are no blockers if a woman DOES want to be in the field, and she is capable.
That's it. Anything else is an INSULT to women. The thought process that "We need to HELP these POOR, INCOMPETENT, TIMID creatures get into a workplace" is absurd beyond comprehension.
Women are STRONG. They don't need YOUR help, or ANYONE's help, as long as artificial blockers to employment are not in place.
As for language, and "how people act", what the hell man? I've met women that are far more foul then men. If you want the workplace to change, then fine, it can change. But it had better not change for one sex or the other, but for logical reasons.
No, it is very much different. Your example of sameness (help clients and keep things running smoothly) could be said of computing versus hvac equipment. So what if you still help clients? You do that at McDonalds too! So what if you have to maintain something?
You have to maintain and keep any number of things running smoothly, from a slushie machine to a high end server farm. That doesn't make them the same, but good try at trying to pretend that someone could be parachuted in from 30+ years ago, or even 20 years ago, and be able to do the job today.
No. Way. It is an ENTIRELY new field. New management techniques. A new place in the business place. More widespread. More complex, by FAR in a variety of different ways.
But all of this is a red herring! Who the hell cares how many people of what type were in the computing field $x years ago. It is an utterly meaningless metric. So many things change over decades, not only the field itself, but society as a whole, schools, societal norms, you name it!
Yet, you're picking on some unrelated example, and thinking that it has to do with what's inside. It isn't. Look at the world in its entirety.
Perhaps there are good, high paying jobs in other fields? Perhaps there are fewer women that want to be in the workplace? Or, any number of things?
Further -- sexism is about equal opportunity, not equality. Women are NOT men. They are NOT THE SAME as men. At all! Why?
Because we're using the plural, and the plural allows one to use statistics to validate data on large sets.
Individually? Sure, there are smart women, educated women, women that WANT to be educated, and women that beat out men in many metrics. Equality is all about ensuring that even though metrics exist, that stipulate that a certain group tends to be "this way", that the *individual* gets the change to show their own skillset.
So, it is absolutely, 100% not wrong to say "Women are not well suited to technology fields in general". Because it is *true*.
The very important thing, however, is that "no one is left behind" due to the above valid assertion. Because yeah, individually, there are some kick ass women out there, in this field -- and others that can contribute equally well.
Good grief.
I keep hearing how women used to be large part of the programming community.
Yet, sure, when it was LITERALLY MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF TIMES SMALLER!
It's like comparing how many people worked creating clothing, centuries back. Yup, a lot more of them were men.
Now they're women or children in third world nations. There is LITERALLY NO COMPARISON!
Programming 30 years ago, was so different in environment, in the way it was done, the languages, what you needed to know, the work methodology... that it was an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT FIELD!
Equality isn't declining. It never existed. So, ask yourself, why?
Classic bullshit.
Female behaviour is civilized, but male behaviour is crass, tactless, and rude.
If male behaviour is crass, tactless and rude.. then female behaviour is also equally negative. Perhaps simpering, two faced, and gossipy.
In Quebec, Ontario and BC (places I've lived), school zones have speed restrictions, but only when defined. In Quebec, for example, that's 8am to 5pm, Monday to Friday, September to June. All to 30kmph signs say just this, too.
And here, travelling more than 15kmph under the speed limit is ticketable too.
Yes, I most certain do "honestly, seriously" sometimes wonder that.
"Wonder", in this context, can be understood to mean many things. Including, speculative thinking.
Speculative thinking is at the heart of all invention, all development, all creation.
It is often called 'an imagination', which often can bear fertile fruit and great change to society. Other times, it provides amusement and entertainment. Sometimes, when you think of something poorly implemented, and put forward without technical merits, you try to think of why such a thing might exist. You wonder "what if".
But of course you are just a troll, looking for any way to criticize any form of speech you can... so, I suppose there is little point mentioning this to you.
I honestly, seriously sometimes wonder if systemd is Skynet... or, a way for Skynet to 'waken'.
And if Pottering isn't just a T3 from the future or some such, working to prepared the existing internet for it to awaken.
I mean, really -- honestly, he has essentially re-written the entire userland, as one package, maintained by one. More kernel patches are next.
While I would not draw a clock as per the example image, I've always been *crappy beyond belief* at drawing circles, you name it. Hell, my hand writing makes chicken scratch look like fine art.
For the circle, I'd get the numbers in the approximate correct place, you know, put 9 and 3 and 12 and 6 in first -- but, I can imagine people that never really drew much, perhaps not even thinking about that ahead of time.
So yeah, my circle might be as misshapen as the one in the example article. And, someone that is poor at makin' a circle as me, but has also never thought of the clock-draw, pre-set your numbers concept -- may do just as the example did.
My point is that the pen is an excellent idea, but the doctor's subjective opinion is a detractor AND an benefit. The pen will get rid of both sides of the equation. I'm not sure how accurate it will be, and it may be more of a 'this is a cool product!" that isn't wanted or needed.
(I'm willing to bet that if you ask many doctors, they'll say "My educated, well informed opinion on test outcome is a benefit, not a detractor!")
Sure.
But, this article is about a single, uniform, unchanging temperature that is slated to be 'perfect' for everyone. Which is silly, but under that context you stated that it was to 'save money'.
If you want to alter that statement (as you have), then fine...
Saving money? Guess it depends on locale.
9 months of the year here, you're heating at night. 7 months of the year, you're heating 24x7. Much of the rest of the year, A/C isn't a biggie.
Saving here means cooler, not hotter. Likely the same for the Northern 1/2 of the US too.
Home work can indeed be = awesome.
A few things though.
I've seen people completely fail at this task. This seems to fall into two categories.
1) People with unhelpful spouses, which are home a lot. Constant interruptions, not understanding that home does NOT mean that you are actually HOME! Thinking that if something is urgent, it is OK to bug / talk to / etc. Heck, sometimes the worker finds this interaction enjoyable, making it harder to say no. Which can easily lead to failure.
2) Some people are quite simply put, unable to work at home without being at home. They can't get into the work mindset, no matter how much they try. For myself, taking that morning shower, and behaving as if I'm about to leave for work, helps quite a bit. It seems to kick the body into drive, and get me going.
However, it can't be stressed enough.. you are NOT at home, you are AT WORK! People think of sitting around in their bathrobe all day, and sure one can do that, but is that really the state of mind that will engender you to work hard? To think of time away from your chair, as cheating?
On the other side of the coin, I've found that I hate working from home in the summer, and enjoy it in the winter. The winter, with -40C -- well, the reasons are obvious. The summer? Well, there's a lot to see on the way to work, it's pleasant and nice to get out.
Overall, it's a plus. However, if you do not have a supportive family -- just give up right now. You're not going to be successful.
Exactly. In this day and age, kids MUST learn to filter.
http://www.davidbrin.com/neote...
Brin explains the differences....
In my country, that punch would result in an assault charge.
And no, it would not matter what I said, period.
Not saying this is good or bad, just simply that it is...
You've hit the nail on the head.
Our bodies require a specific amount of protein, fat, and various trace elements daily. Protein specifically, will be stolen from muscles to keep organs healthy, if there is a deficit.
If the food is formulated incorrectly, you need more of it to get that base requirement.
Women, often having less muscle on their body, require a different diet than men. And sure, there are variations in metabolism and absorbtion....
So, I wonder what the diet was? One prepared scientifically, or one conforming to political silliness.
JohnFen,
Hate is most certainly deserved. How you treat someone, hate or not -- well, that's a different matter.
However, part of the 'hate' aspect is that the way that systemd is making it into the kernel, and into every distro, is not based upon traditional meritocratic principles. It is not that Lennart is not skilled, merely that he holds incredible influence and political power through Redhat. And, that Redhat's power and tendrils spread everywhere, including the Gnome foundation.
This political power is FORCING systemd into distros. Some distros (like Debian) are doing what they can to defang systemd and including it... but it becomes more onerous daily.
Without this political power, systemd would NOT be where it is today. It would ABSOLUTELY not be in Debian, and many other distros. While you may contests some of my points above, one thing that is an actual fact is that this is the key reason for the hate.
Not the software. Not the quality of the product. Rather, the use of political power (intended or not!) based upon Redhat's money, instead of based upon merit. And yet, Redhat has done a lot of things for the community based upon that money, but this one is a TRAGEDY. And, that political power is bypassing all of the traditional checks and bounds the community has, which would normally FORCE an author of a product to shape up, or see his product ostracized!
And that, most certainly, is deserving of hate. And further? It isn't only Lennart that my hate is targeted ate. I see him as a problem, and Redhat as the real target.
Lastly. Redhat. I started with Redhat 4 (not RHEL) in 96. I switched to Debian as soon as possible, because back then? Debian wasn't just twice the product, or 10 times the product... Redhat was a *joke* comparatively.
It should be known, and it *is* known by anyone with a sense of history, that Redhat and most other commercialized distros learned MANY THINGS from Debian. The list of firsts is endless. The adoption by Redhat and others, was a constant catch-up game.
Fast forward almost 20 years. As expected, many of the 'core' things, such as online updates (yum = apt), automatic dependency resolution, installation of a distro in a 'secure' state, the list goes on, have been adopted by Redhat. And, in my profession, I work with many distros on a daily basis.
And Redhat? Every time I work with it, I find bugs that you would never find in Debian. Every. Single. Time. Their QA process is not up to snuff. Hell, I've even run into *their own configuration tools* not working, on a point release (should be more bugs squashed), and this from a company with the cash for QA that Redhat has!
My point? This poor dev methodology is showing with the hap-hazard adoption of systemd by Redhat. Its inclusion and dependency by Gnome, via Redhat's influence, is a CLEAR indicator of the problems internal to development at Redhat. What baked design philosophy would allow for a dependency on a project that has *no* *clear* *design* *specification*. Systemd has grown enormously, has morphed and changed repeatedly, and before it has even stabilized as a product?
Everything depends upon it?!
This is so ass backwards, it is like designing a car body, when the size, power, or weight distribution of the engine has not even been determined!
No. Hate is deserved. How you treat someone, hate or not -- well, that's a different matter.
But the hate? It deserves to exist.
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We did it in Canada. Other countries have too. Are you claiming people are less intelligent in the UK?
(Here's a hint... for a decade, you post signs in both, then rotate them out as they wear...)
But they are developing their electric own cars. All car manufacturers are.
The lobbying is a tool they are using, the laws, to hold back Telsa until they have a suitably competitive product to sell.
Once that happens, it won't matter is a Telsa can sell direct ... the big boys can crush them with advertising and normal market pressure.