DRM technology was conceived long before mass trading of audio on the internet was even thought of, let alone practiced by millions. One of the markets ITRU was angling for before that was the medical industry - being able to put medical records in an encrypted format, to 1) ease reliable transfer of patient information between medical providers, and 2) securing your medical records against unauthorized access.
So, what about DRM being used for consumer audio? I don't want any DRM on music I purchase, and I was disappointed to see ITRU move in that direction. The music's mine, and if I want to make.mp3s or.oggs out of it, I should be able to. On the other hand, I don't download music off the internet myself. If I like a CD, I'll buy it, but that's me.
Does that mean DRM is or isn't a 'real technology'? There are other markets where DRM technology is desirable and useful, but like most of you, I don't think many of them involve consumers.
Finally, Intertrust is now mostly just a patent portfolio, as far as I've been able to tell, although I'm always surprised when I see their technology included in recent software releases of consumer software. I've heard they've been doing well in their lawsuit against Microsoft. Kudos to them. I enjoyed working with them at the beginning of my tour there (when they had 100 employees, not 300), there were some truly brilliant people there.
I'm a professional soldier, so here's what I have to say.
If I'm called on to go to visit my colleagues who are already in Iraq, I'll be carrying over 130 lbs of protective gear, weapons, ammo, rucksack and equipment, and the bulk of it goes on my back. A plane and a parachute gets me to my DZ and I walk from there.
Military equipment is bulky and heavy. Take the PLGR (Precision Lightweight GPS Receiver). The last picture shows it's size. This puppy weighs 2.75 pounds and is huge. Compare to any Garmin, Magellan, Lowrance and others whose products weigh less than a pound and are a quarter of the size. (Blah, blah, Selective Availability. Another discussion.)
Another example: The Mortar Ballistic Computer weighs 7 lbs and makes my Gameboy Advance (cheap entertainment in the field) look like a Cray Supercomputer. Oh, and it's roughly 20x larger than the GBA.
So if I had the room in my ruck for a laptop (I don't), and I could justify spending $4500 on it - four months' pay (I took a slight paycut when I quit my sysadmin job in Silicon Valley for the opportunity to get gassed in Iraq), you could bet I'd be buying one of these and not FOUR pieces of crap that are going to break when I hit the DZ.
"My pictures are sharper and sound much more crisp. I am now a true believer in the Monster product and hope to see more of it soon. " -- Thomas Boulette
So all I have to do to get sharper porn images off the internet is to buy a $10 5-foot "Dare To Be Different Yellow" phone cord? Sign me up!
I'm currently serving in the military. Our SSNs are tied to all of our records - financial, medical, everything.
The number of credit card numbers that TriWest has is probably relatively small. I know they don't have mine. I think the only reason they would have to need credit card information is if a soldier had to pay for a medical procedure that isn't 100% covered (usually involving dependants/spouses).
The biggest threat that this theft creates would likely be identity theft, although due to the aforementioned prevalent use of the SSN in nearly all military records, this might not even substanially raise the exposure service members already face. Google shows scores of web sites and articles regarding military identity theft.
I guess that's what I get for serving my country.:-(
There are a lot of comments stating that Intertrust had nothing more than a patent portfolio. As someone who ran Intertrust's product live on the internet for demos and trials, I can attest that that is not true. Intertrust provided SDKs to companies interested in DRM technology, and we had an in-house product showing one possible implementation. The product was real.
Second of all, this lawsuit has been in the works for years. I heard about it in mid-2000 when I worked there, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were working on this in 1999. From my understanding, it came about from ITRU's talks with Microsoft, which resulted in Microsoft putting out white papers on DRM technology that looked amazingly like ITRU's white papers, except with the ITRU logos replaced with Microsoft logos. Really. I expect a decision in ITRU's favor, which will be stuck in the appellate courts for approximately eternity.
Anyway, Microsoft is evil, and perhaps ITRU is evil if you don't like patents, but there are plenty of good uses for DRM (think medical records), and anytime someone can stick it to Microsoft, they should.
I have colo service with he.net. We pay roughly $29/U/Month for 12U and something like 384Kbps sustained, burstable to 10Mb/s, but they only count 95%ile, so you can get away with using lots more. Just don't get/.ed:)
We is a half dozen computer geek friends with various 1U and 2U servers in the rack.
If you want and/or need your own dedicated server (I do), find some friends and get in on a colo together.
Yes, that was an accurate summary of the technology, kudos.
Here are some more comments for those interested:
If you're licensed for (n) views of a piece of content, you can image your system and keep reverting back to that particular system image. However, you're forever stuck at that system image, and you can't let the software ever talk to the license server again. This is a pain for even determined persons, and if the content is really that important, the content provider can require in the rights package that the computer must talk to the license server before each use.
You can't use their software on an OS running in VMWare. That's my fault for mentioning it was possible. Sorry.:)
If a consumer's system crashes beyond repair, there are provisions to restore all of your licenses, but there are also provisions to flag people who request restores of their licenses an abnormally large number of times so that The Man can investigate.
Before Napster and rampant music theft, er, sharing (sorry, still brainwashed:), one of ITRU's primary target audiences was actually the medical field - ITRU envisioned doctors, insurance companies, and patients having patients' medical records in packages, with only authorized persons being able to access them.
After the stock market collapsed - we'd gone public in October and couldn't sell until April, a month after March collapse, shattering most of our paper-millionaire dreams - lots of people started leaving for various reasons. When I started working there in the beginning of '98 there were just over 100 employees. By the time we'd gone public, we'd more than doubled, and many of the people we'd hired were blubbering idiots. I didn't interview a single person who was worth hiring, and yet somehow, people kept getting hired. Stock price plummeted, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs. Last I checked, it was just a handful of people. All of my ex-coworkers from there have moved on, willingly or not.
The technology was good, and somewhat complex, but not frighteningly so, but when I was maintaining running instances of the software it was not terribly stable, in ways that would make most sysadmins cry. Instead, I quit in Dec '00, as the developers weren't putting in the features I requested - needed! - to know if the software was even running properly. Makes me laugh now, but it wasn't that funny then.
Intertrust had been around for years, and in it's beginnings was staffed primarily by folk with PhDs in Computer Science and related fields. They had a research team that was brilliant, and Intertrust has such an impressive patent portfolio that I am surprised that they didn't manage to successfully sue Microsoft, as has been commented here in slashdot before. Several references in google, and there's a techdirt.com and a kuro5hin article around for those who are interested.
I'd much rather get paid $100 every week than $1200 every 60 days, because I'll make $1257 every 60 days. That's enough for a another PS2 game every two months!
I do this frequently at Tower Records, for values of frequently around 1-2 times every three months, and have been doing it for years. I simply say "it sucked", and they've never given me any trouble about it.
I've also taken books back to Borders, where I'd mistakenly purchased books in a series I'd already read. They let me exchange them for the next novels in a series without any problems.
But then, they should let me do this. I shop at these places in part because they have a 30 day return policy. (And in part because I can drive down and pick up the merchandise.) If I was willing to wait, and I wanted the product slightly cheaper, I'd order online.
There are times when I'm willing to sacrifice a 30 day full refund policy - when I'm buying a new lens for my Nikon, for example, I'll read every review, maybe find a friend who has one and test it out, maybe go to a pro shop and shoot a roll of film with it and see how it comes out. Then I'll buy it, not online or from Wolf Camera, but from my local pro shop, which has mail order prices, but I can drive down and pick the product up. The tradeoff? Store credit only, 15% restocking fee, and I can only return it within 7 days. If I waltzed in there and demanded my money back after 29 days, yeah, I'd say that'd take some balls. They'd also tell me where I could place my lens - somewhere where I'd need a flash to get a decent picture.
Yesterday's article about ORBZ shutting down told us about this article, which explained that when ORBZ tested Lotus Domino servers to see if they were open mail relays, the Domino server would get DoSed (enter a mail routing loop consuming 100% CPU).
Cheers!
My memory says it was founded in the early 90's, but it could have been as early as the late 80's. Sure, CompTIA's site is thin on information, but even their A+ FAQ's [comptia.org] first question is:
Will I be able to become A+ certified on the 1998 objectives after March 30, 2001?
Read that again. Does it really tell you that CompTIA was around before even 2001? That statement could be true if they were founded in February 2001.
Why Support Public Policy?
In 1999, CompTIA developed state and federal legislation that would create tax credits for training in the IT sector. One state bill has passed, and federal legislation is receiving growing support. Only with your support will it become law.
Which clearly states that they've been around pre-2000.
Just because you're convinced something is true doesn't mean you can use a poor argument to convince someone else of the same.
Cheers!
No wonder the article posted to la.indymedia.org was posted by anonymous. There are so many spelling and grammatical mistakes that he sounds like a gibbering retard... never mind the actual content being mostly false.
1) The generic villain/sniper has a huge sniper rifle with a bipod, yet chooses to try to shoot Owen from a standing position from hundreds of yards away. I guess he's mastered his heart beat, breathing, and body shakes. Well, no, he kept missing.
2) On the boat, er, aircraft carrier (sorry, navy guys;), someone says something along the lines of "the terrain is too rough, we can't reach him by radio, and even satellites won't work until he gets to better ground." Uh, unless he's in a cave, no terrain is that rough.. after all, a few scenes later they show a view from a sattelite directly overhead.
3) Owen makes it to the one of the RPs (rendezvous point) and radios in. Shortly thereafter he sees the enemy and has to break off radio contact. Gene demands to know where he is. Uh, he's at the RP, moron. Then someone pipes up, "We'll triangulate his position!" How? HE STOPPED TRANSMITTING!
4) Owen is able to outrun, on foot, the combined artillery of multiple tanks, armored vehicles, and dozens of soldiers. Way to go, superman.
5) SuperOwen is also able to be unaffected by and outrun the blasts of multiple anti-personnel trip-mines, immediately after they show someone (with cool CG effects) being splattered by a mine that went off at the same distance away as the ones that are exploding around Owen.
6) The generic sniper-villain uses his bolt-action rifle as an assault weapon to fire at Owen from a few feet away. Anyone who didn't want to die would've used a pistol.
7) Three lightly-armed transport helicopters are able to destroy multiple tanks, armored vehicles, and dozens of soldiers without taking any hits. Those armored vehicles had multiple cannons and heavy machine guns that would've made short work of the helicopters that were just hovering there waiting to get shot down.
8) Hanging the Marine off a rope from the helicopter and having Owen jump and grab his hand was just retarded.
Then there's the plot. If our (I'm an American) military was that undisciplined, we'd've lost our paddle somewhere up shit creek.
Even neater are the 3" CD-Rs that are the edges lopped off so that they're business-card sized. That way you can store extra important files in your wallet... your RSA keys, a copy of bo2k so you can infect those internet cafe machines you use, secureCRT, fun stuff like that.:)
Open Motif is free on free OSes, and is non-free on non-free OSes.
That does not mean you can't use Open Motif on a non-free OS.
From the link provided in the article:
"The existing commercial release of Motif continues to be available for non-Open Source distribution, full details of the license and pricing information is at: www.opengroup.org/software_licensing.htm
The public license will allow the release of the Motif source code, as a product called Open Motif, for use, reproduction and distribution on operating systems that are themselves Open Source programs, such as Linux and FreeBSD, without the payment of royalties."
I run the dns for amigothornot.com, and can tell you that the site was not started by the people who started amihotornot.com
But that's not why I'm posting. Your assertion that there can never be another successful community-oriented mass-voting site is absurd. Are you trying to claim that any company that is first to market domination will always dominate that particular market? Microsoft will always dominate the OS market? Cisco will always dominate the networking market?
SSH is great for connecting to a shell account, but you may still leak passwords once you've established a secure connection to your "trusted" network."
Sure, if you telnet to another machine on your network once you've sshed into the network.
Kerberos isn't that much better than ssh - didn't you read the last few CERT Advisories? They were about Kerberos, not ssh.
Of course, if someone cracks your box and replaces ssh/sshd with trojans, you're screwed. On the other hand, ssh clients and servers are easier to install and set up.
Slashdot Mirror
DRM technology was conceived long before mass trading of audio on the internet was even thought of, let alone practiced by millions. One of the markets ITRU was angling for before that was the medical industry - being able to put medical records in an encrypted format, to 1) ease reliable transfer of patient information between medical providers, and 2) securing your medical records against unauthorized access.
.mp3s or .oggs out of it, I should be able to. On the other hand, I don't download music off the internet myself. If I like a CD, I'll buy it, but that's me.
So, what about DRM being used for consumer audio? I don't want any DRM on music I purchase, and I was disappointed to see ITRU move in that direction. The music's mine, and if I want to make
Does that mean DRM is or isn't a 'real technology'? There are other markets where DRM technology is desirable and useful, but like most of you, I don't think many of them involve consumers.
Finally, Intertrust is now mostly just a patent portfolio, as far as I've been able to tell, although I'm always surprised when I see their technology included in recent software releases of consumer software. I've heard they've been doing well in their lawsuit against Microsoft. Kudos to them. I enjoyed working with them at the beginning of my tour there (when they had 100 employees, not 300), there were some truly brilliant people there.
Beats the Bean and Rice Burrito MRE. :P
I'm a professional soldier, so here's what I have to say.
:)
If I'm called on to go to visit my colleagues who are already in Iraq, I'll be carrying over 130 lbs of protective gear, weapons, ammo, rucksack and equipment, and the bulk of it goes on my back. A plane and a parachute gets me to my DZ and I walk from there.
Military equipment is bulky and heavy. Take the PLGR (Precision Lightweight GPS Receiver). The last picture shows it's size. This puppy weighs 2.75 pounds and is huge. Compare to any Garmin, Magellan, Lowrance and others whose products weigh less than a pound and are a quarter of the size. (Blah, blah, Selective Availability. Another discussion.)
Another example: The Mortar Ballistic Computer weighs 7 lbs and makes my Gameboy Advance (cheap entertainment in the field) look like a Cray Supercomputer. Oh, and it's roughly 20x larger than the GBA.
So if I had the room in my ruck for a laptop (I don't), and I could justify spending $4500 on it - four months' pay (I took a slight paycut when I quit my sysadmin job in Silicon Valley for the opportunity to get gassed in Iraq), you could bet I'd be buying one of these and not FOUR pieces of crap that are going to break when I hit the DZ.
Cheers!
Oh god, so funny. From that page:
"My pictures are sharper and sound much more crisp. I am now a true believer in the Monster product and hope to see more of it soon. "
-- Thomas Boulette
So all I have to do to get sharper porn images off the internet is to buy a $10 5-foot "Dare To Be Different Yellow" phone cord? Sign me up!
I'm currently serving in the military. Our SSNs are tied to all of our records - financial, medical, everything.
:-(
The number of credit card numbers that TriWest has is probably relatively small. I know they don't have mine. I think the only reason they would have to need credit card information is if a soldier had to pay for a medical procedure that isn't 100% covered (usually involving dependants/spouses).
The biggest threat that this theft creates would likely be identity theft, although due to the aforementioned prevalent use of the SSN in nearly all military records, this might not even substanially raise the exposure service members already face. Google shows scores of web sites and articles regarding military identity theft.
I guess that's what I get for serving my country.
As a former Intertrust employee, maybe I can shed some light on this.
There are a lot of comments stating that Intertrust had nothing more than a patent portfolio. As someone who ran Intertrust's product live on the internet for demos and trials, I can attest that that is not true. Intertrust provided SDKs to companies interested in DRM technology, and we had an in-house product showing one possible implementation. The product was real.
Second of all, this lawsuit has been in the works for years. I heard about it in mid-2000 when I worked there, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were working on this in 1999. From my understanding, it came about from ITRU's talks with Microsoft, which resulted in Microsoft putting out white papers on DRM technology that looked amazingly like ITRU's white papers, except with the ITRU logos replaced with Microsoft logos. Really. I expect a decision in ITRU's favor, which will be stuck in the appellate courts for approximately eternity.
Anyway, Microsoft is evil, and perhaps ITRU is evil if you don't like patents, but there are plenty of good uses for DRM (think medical records), and anytime someone can stick it to Microsoft, they should.
Cheers!
I have colo service with he.net. We pay roughly $29/U/Month for 12U and something like 384Kbps sustained, burstable to 10Mb/s, but they only count 95%ile, so you can get away with using lots more. Just don't get /.ed :)
We is a half dozen computer geek friends with various 1U and 2U servers in the rack.
If you want and/or need your own dedicated server (I do), find some friends and get in on a colo together.
Cheers!
Yes, that was an accurate summary of the technology, kudos.
:)
:), one of ITRU's primary target audiences was actually the medical field - ITRU envisioned doctors, insurance companies, and patients having patients' medical records in packages, with only authorized persons being able to access them.
Here are some more comments for those interested:
If you're licensed for (n) views of a piece of content, you can image your system and keep reverting back to that particular system image. However, you're forever stuck at that system image, and you can't let the software ever talk to the license server again. This is a pain for even determined persons, and if the content is really that important, the content provider can require in the rights package that the computer must talk to the license server before each use.
You can't use their software on an OS running in VMWare. That's my fault for mentioning it was possible. Sorry.
If a consumer's system crashes beyond repair, there are provisions to restore all of your licenses, but there are also provisions to flag people who request restores of their licenses an abnormally large number of times so that The Man can investigate.
Before Napster and rampant music theft, er, sharing (sorry, still brainwashed
That's all I can think of for now. Cheers!
After the stock market collapsed - we'd gone public in October and couldn't sell until April, a month after March collapse, shattering most of our paper-millionaire dreams - lots of people started leaving for various reasons. When I started working there in the beginning of '98 there were just over 100 employees. By the time we'd gone public, we'd more than doubled, and many of the people we'd hired were blubbering idiots. I didn't interview a single person who was worth hiring, and yet somehow, people kept getting hired. Stock price plummeted, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs. Last I checked, it was just a handful of people. All of my ex-coworkers from there have moved on, willingly or not.
The technology was good, and somewhat complex, but not frighteningly so, but when I was maintaining running instances of the software it was not terribly stable, in ways that would make most sysadmins cry. Instead, I quit in Dec '00, as the developers weren't putting in the features I requested - needed! - to know if the software was even running properly. Makes me laugh now, but it wasn't that funny then.
Intertrust had been around for years, and in it's beginnings was staffed primarily by folk with PhDs in Computer Science and related fields. They had a research team that was brilliant, and Intertrust has such an impressive patent portfolio that I am surprised that they didn't manage to successfully sue Microsoft, as has been commented here in slashdot before. Several references in google, and there's a techdirt.com and a kuro5hin article around for those who are interested.
Holy toledos, batman!
:)
I love it when I make mistakes when correcting other's mistakes. Thanks for pointing it out.
Cheers!
I'd much rather get paid $100 every week than $1200 every 60 days, because I'll make $1257 every 60 days. That's enough for a another PS2 game every two months!
Cheers!
I do this frequently at Tower Records, for values of frequently around 1-2 times every three months, and have been doing it for years. I simply say "it sucked", and they've never given me any trouble about it.
I've also taken books back to Borders, where I'd mistakenly purchased books in a series I'd already read. They let me exchange them for the next novels in a series without any problems.
But then, they should let me do this. I shop at these places in part because they have a 30 day return policy. (And in part because I can drive down and pick up the merchandise.) If I was willing to wait, and I wanted the product slightly cheaper, I'd order online.
There are times when I'm willing to sacrifice a 30 day full refund policy - when I'm buying a new lens for my Nikon, for example, I'll read every review, maybe find a friend who has one and test it out, maybe go to a pro shop and shoot a roll of film with it and see how it comes out. Then I'll buy it, not online or from Wolf Camera, but from my local pro shop, which has mail order prices, but I can drive down and pick the product up. The tradeoff? Store credit only, 15% restocking fee, and I can only return it within 7 days. If I waltzed in there and demanded my money back after 29 days, yeah, I'd say that'd take some balls. They'd also tell me where I could place my lens - somewhere where I'd need a flash to get a decent picture.
20GB storage space holds up to 8000 songs encoded in WMA at 80kbps or 5000 MP3s encoded at 128kbps
ika:/home/derek> bc
8000*80
640000
5000*128
640000
Derek
> cat .mailcap
text/html; lynx -dump %s; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html
Works for me...
IIS really IS a waste of time! Oh, you meant the ISS? My bad.
Yesterday's article about ORBZ shutting down told us about this article, which explained that when ORBZ tested Lotus Domino servers to see if they were open mail relays, the Domino server would get DoSed (enter a mail routing loop consuming 100% CPU). Cheers!
2 clicks and 30 seconds brings me to CompTIA's 'Public Policy': Which clearly states that they've been around pre-2000. Just because you're convinced something is true doesn't mean you can use a poor argument to convince someone else of the same. Cheers!
No wonder the article posted to la.indymedia.org was posted by anonymous. There are so many spelling and grammatical mistakes that he sounds like a gibbering retard... never mind the actual content being mostly false.
Jourmalism, it's not for everyone.
1) The generic villain/sniper has a huge sniper rifle with a bipod, yet chooses to try to shoot Owen from a standing position from hundreds of yards away. I guess he's mastered his heart beat, breathing, and body shakes. Well, no, he kept missing.
;), someone says something along the lines of "the terrain is too rough, we can't reach him by radio, and even satellites won't work until he gets to better ground." Uh, unless he's in a cave, no terrain is that rough.. after all, a few scenes later they show a view from a sattelite directly overhead.
2) On the boat, er, aircraft carrier (sorry, navy guys
3) Owen makes it to the one of the RPs (rendezvous point) and radios in. Shortly thereafter he sees the enemy and has to break off radio contact. Gene demands to know where he is. Uh, he's at the RP, moron. Then someone pipes up, "We'll triangulate his position!" How? HE STOPPED TRANSMITTING!
4) Owen is able to outrun, on foot, the combined artillery of multiple tanks, armored vehicles, and dozens of soldiers. Way to go, superman.
5) SuperOwen is also able to be unaffected by and outrun the blasts of multiple anti-personnel trip-mines, immediately after they show someone (with cool CG effects) being splattered by a mine that went off at the same distance away as the ones that are exploding around Owen.
6) The generic sniper-villain uses his bolt-action rifle as an assault weapon to fire at Owen from a few feet away. Anyone who didn't want to die would've used a pistol.
7) Three lightly-armed transport helicopters are able to destroy multiple tanks, armored vehicles, and dozens of soldiers without taking any hits. Those armored vehicles had multiple cannons and heavy machine guns that would've made short work of the helicopters that were just hovering there waiting to get shot down.
8) Hanging the Marine off a rope from the helicopter and having Owen jump and grab his hand was just retarded.
Then there's the plot. If our (I'm an American) military was that undisciplined, we'd've lost our paddle somewhere up shit creek.
All my friends used to laugh at me when I told them I have both DSL and a Cable Modem.
Who's laughing now?
I'd be so happy if I only had to sit through a half hour meeting a week! It'd almost be worth the pay cut. :D
Even neater are the 3" CD-Rs that are the edges lopped off so that they're business-card sized. That way you can store extra important files in your wallet... your RSA keys, a copy of bo2k so you can infect those internet cafe machines you use, secureCRT, fun stuff like that. :)
Open Motif is free on free OSes, and is non-free on non-free OSes.
That does not mean you can't use Open Motif on a non-free OS.
From the link provided in the article:
"The existing commercial release of Motif continues to be available for non-Open Source distribution, full details of the license and pricing information is at: www.opengroup.org/software_licensing.htm
The public license will allow the release of the Motif source code, as a product called Open Motif, for use, reproduction and distribution on operating systems that are themselves Open Source programs, such as Linux and FreeBSD, without the payment of royalties."
I run the dns for amigothornot.com, and can tell you that the site was not started by the people who started amihotornot.com
But that's not why I'm posting. Your assertion that there can never be another successful community-oriented mass-voting site is absurd. Are you trying to claim that any company that is first to market domination will always dominate that particular market? Microsoft will always dominate the OS market? Cisco will always dominate the networking market?
SSH is great for connecting to a shell account, but you may still leak passwords once you've established a secure connection to your "trusted" network."
Sure, if you telnet to another machine on your network once you've sshed into the network.
Kerberos isn't that much better than ssh - didn't you read the last few CERT Advisories? They were about Kerberos, not ssh.
Of course, if someone cracks your box and replaces ssh/sshd with trojans, you're screwed. On the other hand, ssh clients and servers are easier to install and set up.