in brasil you can make them send invoices
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in brasil is ilegal to refuse currency. so if a service or product is advertised or on sale, the vendor is forced by the law to accept cash. paper bill or coins. the vendor can not impose the use of credit cards or things like that.
so everytime I sign to a service with recurring bills (like an ISP or magazine subsciption) I opt for a bill sent to my snail mail so I can pay in the bank.
this gives me the option of ignoring the bills, which'll force them to disconnect me. I did this several times before and it worked.
"such as reading an encrypted e-book on another computer" - or in a OS not that don't have a sanctioned reader...
other fair use: backup. I still remember when software used to come in floppy disks and CD-ROM was just a rich boy gadget. most of the software came with a cluse in the EULA stating that it was ok to make copies of the floppies and install the software from the copies, in order to protect the original disks from being damaged. ahhh the god ol times...
No, I never did coding at kernel level or even in C/C++, just some Z80 assembly some 10 years ago. that's why I posted. to listen to opinions and know if it's feasible or not.
I'm specially interested in the technical aspect of this, not ideological. so let's see...
It's impossible to create a definitive interface because Linux is still evolving - impossible or dificult ? - Openness. If you allow all the binary crap in the kernel the vendors want many of its advantages will go away. - that's pure ideological. I agree that in a perfect world open source drivers for all kinds of hardware would be ideal, unfortunatly this is not a perfect world.
that's what distributions are for. They come with everything compiled as modules and the system loads what's needed? - and what about the hardware that's launched after the distro ? should I wait for my distro to release an upgrade ? NO. I want the driver included with the hardware, so does my unskilled mother.
I was stupid when choosing a video card and got a GeForce 2 MX - so did I. And I agree with you on this. NVidia's driver SUCKS. which makes me remind your first paragraph "but the fact is you can't debug something you don't know how works." which is not your job, or the job of kernel developers. is the job of driver manufacturer. something NVidia did poorly.
3Dfx Voodoo. they had their own (open source) driver, but when it was oficially added to the kernel the company had gone titsup.com. other example ? you gave one. soft modems. remember Mwave, that ugly piece of crap included with IBM aptivas ? it's on the kernel now, but the modem is obsolete.
presuming you're using a distro-supplied kernel (as all the newbies you're referring to will do.) Just install the proper nVidia RPM
and I do. I use distro-suplied kernel. now if you could point me where I can find a pre-compiled nvidia module for a CONECTIVA kernel... I can find conectiva rpms for lucent winmodem because AFAIK a brasilian mantains them, but I don't remember seeing nvidia rmps for conectiva. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me.
there's a source wrapper distributed with a big chunk of binary code
That's EXACTLY what I meant. a source wrapper, but instead of having dozens, maybe hundreds, of diferent wrapper, a standard one, included with kernel sources (licensed under LGPL, maybe) would be better. it'll make things easier for everybody and his dog. including driver developers working for hardware companies, tech support vendors, my mom...
Something you may not know is that XFree86 4.N has an abstract binary interface that allows people like nVidia and Kyro to create binary-only X servers.
I know that. I'm not THAT new to linux. but AFAIK 3D acceleration requires a kernel component, and that's where a wrapper comes in. to make it easier to companies uncomfortable with the idea of realeasing specs to produce drivers.
Waiting for new open source drivers to be included in the kernel is a pain in the rear-end, and when they finally arrive the hardware may even be obsolete. install proprietary drivers suplied by the manufacturer is also annoying, and usually requires a recompilation, something average users don't know how or don't want to do and finally, some hardware manufactures don't like the idea of releasing source drivers in order to protect their "secrets".
I consider this as a major impediment to the acceptance of linux as a mainstream desktop OS. don't you think is about time to create a standard, wrapper for binary drivers that'll allow hardware manufacturers to:
1- create closed source drivers; 2- make the closed source drivers kernel version independent 3- make it simple to "joe average" to install new hardware such as a video card and the related drivers ?
And it WAS faster for disk I/O back at the 233 MHz CPU times.
when I built my second PC I planned it to have a 233 MHz AMD CPU, 64 MB of RAM, CD burner and a scanner, all of this running linux. It was one of the best machines money could buy in Brasil at that time.
At that time SCSI made sense, because:
- IDE cd burners used to suck at that time - SANE only had support to SCSI scanners
So I went shopping and came home with a Soyo motherboard, a K6 233 MHz, a Symbios SCSI card, an Umax scanner, a quantum 3.2 GB HD and an HP SCSI burner. Excelent machine.
Now we have nice things such as USB, Firewire, ultra fast CPUs and excelent IDE chipsets and linux supports all of them, so SCSI doesn't make sense for desktop anymore.
Now I have an IDE burner, IDE HD, USB scanner and USB printer, etc. and all works flawlessly.
SCSI nowadays is for SERVERS. where high the availability of RAID is a question of live and death, where reliable hotswap is neccessary and "details" such as extremelly high noise or subglacial cooling doesn't get into account because the machines will be locked in their own room.
now, if you REALLY want ultra-fast disks in your desktop... firewire is FASTER than SCSI. up to 400 MB/s.
BTW: Does anybody know if the WYSIWIG Problems of KWord are solved?
not yet. according to http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/koff ice-1.2-release-plan.html the WYSIWIG problem will be solved in kword 1.2, wich means several months of waiting.
requires copyright notice. Matt Michie needs a clue on licenses.
not all packages in a linus distro are based on GPL and XFree is one of this packages. It's based on XFree's own license, but in the arcticle Matt says about Red Flag's XFreee copyright notice: "it had an interesting copyright message, "(C) 2000 Red Flag Software and others." Certainly the GPL doesn't require an advertising clause".
a litle research before writing such an arcticle would've been a Good Thing(tm).
it's hardcoded in the units FIRMWARE wich is SOFTWARE. it can be changed by either reflashing the firmware or replacing a chip. mostly the same thing ppl do with DVD players that needs an "internal surgery" with a soldering iron to become region free.
Do you read the comments Katz ?
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I don't think so, or you'd stoped writing all this nonsense a long time ago.
let's take a look at some parts of your delusional ideas:
"The Net has become an economic and utilitarian rather than social, political or idealistic network." : the internet _ALWAYS_ were an utilitarian network. The _MILITARY_ created and sponsored it in the 60's as a backup communication method to use in case of a nuclear war.
"Its grown too diffuse to have a center" : duh-uh. every large communication network becomes difuse whe it reaches global poportions. look the telephone system.
"For years, the hackers believed nobody could stop them. After the Napster battles, it was clear that lobbyists and lawmakers, especially conjunction with wealthy corporatists, could. Briefly, Napster was the heart of the Net, and the Napster era -- now over -- one of it's most pivotal periods. Perhaps inevitably, this wasn't a fight the good guys ever really had a shot at winning, although they were slow to see it. While free music is still widely available online - free software types and music and movie traders are all over the place - the Net, it's now clear, will not remain a free frontier except in certain isolated and idiosyncratic corners." : They still do, in the same way that Bin Laden still believes he can win over US of A. They have an ideal and they'll fight for it with all the weapons they have. doesn't matter if they're wright or wrong, hackers/terrorist/eco activists, etc are usually fanatics for what they're doing
the napster era IS NOT over. what you call "napster era" I call "peer-to-peer era". napster made the concept of p2p file sharing popular. if the software or the company is no-more there's others to fill the gap, and these ones goes titsup.com new ones will come. this is a fight _THE RECORDING INDUSTRY_ can't win.
I could go over and over, but I'm tired of this. Katz simply doesn't have a clue.
My company is selling control devices for a major brasilian telco which has as cpu a complete IBM-PC compatible computer built in a card no biger than 12cm x 12cm. It contains 1 Pentium MMX/K6, 2 72 pin simm memory connectors and a SiS chipset with buil-in graphics and sound.
In one edge of the card it have an I/O pannel with SVGA, mouse, keyboard, serial and paralel connectors and in the other an ISA-like male connector that plugs in the unit from where it draws power and comunicates with the rest of the unit. in the card itself it also has standard IDE and floppy connectors.
So, now I ask: What's the big deal with this IBM "invention" ?
actually Outlook Express has (had) some nasty bugs that allows some atachments to be automatically executed and IExplorer up to 5.5 IIRC would automatically execute scripts in an.eml file atached to web pages.
The default install could be a good idea to test the security for desktop installs, in this case a linux machine would have to include XFree (wich had its share of security holes in the past), but for a server only install I'd keep XFree out.
"meanwhile i'll be using vnc, reading books, calculating my budget, reading archived webpages, and listening to mp3's ALL AT THE SAME TIME with my 'older' ipaq."
First: no need to use foul language. we're adult ppl here (at least I am).
second:
- using vnc
- reading books
- calculating my budget
- reading archived webpages
I always did this with Palm IIIC, so does my boss who bought the unit from me.
the only things in your list that a Palm IIIC doesn't do is MP3 and multitasking, but Clie does, Visor does too with an ad on, so does the new palms with SD/multimedia cards, so mp3 is not a _SOFTWARE_ limitation, it's hardware. the older palms didn't have mp3 support to keep them 2-3x cheaper than iPaqs.
And the multitasking issue: well I never missed it. but if you insist so much on that, remember the limitations the DragonBall CPU imposes, specially the memory issues. now that it'll run in a more powerfull hardware it maybe possible to do all that, but it'll be very strange to see VNC, e-book reader, budget app and off-line browser sharing space in the same 320x320 screen so you can do all the tasks AT THE SAME TIME...
BTW, iPaq decodes mp3 by software. if you put the player in background other apps becomes terribly slow or causes *CLICKS* and *PLOPS* in the music, so I _STILL_ don't see the point in having multitasking in a PDA...
If you're considering an upgrade...
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read this:
"Palm OS 5 incorporates support for the APIs in Palm OS 4.0, thereby enabling existing software applications that comply with these APIs to run on Palm OS 5. This compatibility support ensures that an investment in 68000-based software is protected into the future. "
if I'm right this means a m68k-to-PowerPC style move where the new OS running in a new hardware will provide the software compatibility AND emulation of the older CPU machine language.
Now, will it keep the small size and memory footprint of older versions ?
My old Palm IIIC had 2 Mb of flash memory and only 1.4 Mb were actually used by the OS and PIM apps. compare this with the 14 Mb+ that WinCE or QTopia takes in my current iPaq and you'll see how eficiently and fast a 2-4 Mb PalmOS would run in ARM hardware.
now a question ? will Palm sell this new version to iPaq owners ? I'll certainly give it a try.
requires some methods, and since I'm too lazy today to look for the mothods they used to compile all that data, I'll create my own.
1- let's stablish what's a windows OS and what's a Linux OS (and the nots too)
1.1 Windows 3.1 is NOT an operational system. is a graphic user interface (GUI) for DOS. let's assume win 95/98/me and NT 3.5/4.0/2000/XP are OSes.
1.2 Linux is NOT an OS. Is a KERNEL. the combination between Linux and GNU OS makes the operational system we know as GNU/Linux
2 Let's determine the minimum instalation of each one that's capable of doing usefull work, including user tasks such as reading e-mail and browsing the web and server tasks such as serving web pages, sharing files, routing e-mail, et al.
2.1 Both in Windows and GNU/Linux you'll have to select all the packages neccessary to the proposed tasks using the minimum ofered by the standard install CD. If the CD doesn't ofer some of the functionalities they must be downloaded from the manufacturer's site.
2.2.1 for windows you'll keep only:
- networking drivers;
- the standard MS file sharing;
- Internet Explorer;
- Outlook express/MS mail;
- IIS/personal web server
- Exchange server;
2.2.1 For GNU/Linux:
- Network modules and associated tools;
- NFS or Samba;
- Mutt os pine (remember, in GNU/Linux you can read e-mail/browse from command line, so XFree is not installed);
- Lynx or Links
- Apache;
- Sendmail;
3 count the number of security holes in the test systems, including:
- vulnerabilities to e-mail virii;
- vulnerabilities to malicious web-pages;
- remote exploits that grant root/administrator access;
- local exploits that grant root/administrator access;
- holes that allows an atacker to succesfully launch a DoS atack, freezing the machine;
- unauthorized read and/or write access to files;
- any other vulnerability you can think of;
In a test like this who do you think'll win ? please post your comments.
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fear of law suits billy ?
to the midle age.
in brasil is ilegal to refuse currency. so if a service or product is advertised or on sale, the vendor is forced by the law to accept cash. paper bill or coins. the vendor can not impose the use of credit cards or things like that.
so everytime I sign to a service with recurring bills (like an ISP or magazine subsciption) I opt for a bill sent to my snail mail so I can pay in the bank.
this gives me the option of ignoring the bills, which'll force them to disconnect me. I did this several times before and it worked.
"such as reading an encrypted e-book on another computer" - or in a OS not that don't have a sanctioned reader...
other fair use: backup. I still remember when software used to come in floppy disks and CD-ROM was just a rich boy gadget. most of the software came with a cluse in the EULA stating that it was ok to make copies of the floppies and install the software from the copies, in order to protect the original disks from being damaged. ahhh the god ol times...
No, I never did coding at kernel level or even in C/C++, just some Z80 assembly some 10 years ago. that's why I posted. to listen to opinions and know if it's feasible or not.
I'm specially interested in the technical aspect of this, not ideological. so let's see...
It's impossible to create a definitive interface because Linux is still evolving - impossible or dificult ? - Openness. If you allow all the binary crap in the kernel the vendors want many of its advantages will go away. - that's pure ideological. I agree that in a perfect world open source drivers for all kinds of hardware would be ideal, unfortunatly this is not a perfect world.
that's what distributions are for. They come with everything compiled as modules and the system loads what's needed? - and what about the hardware that's launched after the distro ? should I wait for my distro to release an upgrade ? NO. I want the driver included with the hardware, so does my unskilled mother.
I was stupid when choosing a video card and got a GeForce 2 MX - so did I. And I agree with you on this. NVidia's driver SUCKS. which makes me remind your first paragraph "but the fact is you can't debug something you don't know how works." which is not your job, or the job of kernel developers. is the job of driver manufacturer. something NVidia did poorly.
Examples, please?
3Dfx Voodoo. they had their own (open source) driver, but when it was oficially added to the kernel the company had gone titsup.com. other example ? you gave one. soft modems. remember Mwave, that ugly piece of crap included with IBM aptivas ? it's on the kernel now, but the modem is obsolete.
presuming you're using a distro-supplied kernel (as all the newbies you're referring to will do.) Just install the proper nVidia RPM
and I do. I use distro-suplied kernel. now if you could point me where I can find a pre-compiled nvidia module for a CONECTIVA kernel... I can find conectiva rpms for lucent winmodem because AFAIK a brasilian mantains them, but I don't remember seeing nvidia rmps for conectiva. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me.
there's a source wrapper distributed with a big chunk of binary code
That's EXACTLY what I meant. a source wrapper, but instead of having dozens, maybe hundreds, of diferent wrapper, a standard one, included with kernel sources (licensed under LGPL, maybe) would be better. it'll make things easier for everybody and his dog. including driver developers working for hardware companies, tech support vendors, my mom...
Something you may not know is that XFree86 4.N has an abstract binary interface that allows people like nVidia and Kyro to create binary-only X servers.
I know that. I'm not THAT new to linux. but AFAIK 3D acceleration requires a kernel component, and that's where a wrapper comes in. to make it easier to companies uncomfortable with the idea of realeasing specs to produce drivers.
Waiting for new open source drivers to be included in the kernel is a pain in the rear-end, and when they finally arrive the hardware may even be obsolete. install proprietary drivers suplied by the manufacturer is also annoying, and usually requires a recompilation, something average users don't know how or don't want to do and finally, some hardware manufactures don't like the idea of releasing source drivers in order to protect their "secrets".
I consider this as a major impediment to the acceptance of linux as a mainstream desktop OS. don't you think is about time to create a standard, wrapper for binary drivers that'll allow hardware manufacturers to:
1- create closed source drivers;
2- make the closed source drivers kernel version independent
3- make it simple to "joe average" to install new hardware such as a video card and the related drivers ?
And it WAS faster for disk I/O back at the 233 MHz CPU times.
when I built my second PC I planned it to have a 233 MHz AMD CPU, 64 MB of RAM, CD burner and a scanner, all of this running linux. It was one of the best machines money could buy in Brasil at that time.
At that time SCSI made sense, because:
- IDE cd burners used to suck at that time
- SANE only had support to SCSI scanners
So I went shopping and came home with a Soyo motherboard, a K6 233 MHz, a Symbios SCSI card, an Umax scanner, a quantum 3.2 GB HD and an HP SCSI burner. Excelent machine.
Now we have nice things such as USB, Firewire, ultra fast CPUs and excelent IDE chipsets and linux supports all of them, so SCSI doesn't make sense for desktop anymore.
Now I have an IDE burner, IDE HD, USB scanner and USB printer, etc. and all works flawlessly.
SCSI nowadays is for SERVERS. where high the availability of RAID is a question of live and death, where reliable hotswap is neccessary and "details" such as extremelly high noise or subglacial cooling doesn't get into account because the machines will be locked in their own room.
now, if you REALLY want ultra-fast disks in your desktop... firewire is FASTER than SCSI. up to 400 MB/s.
a john katz arcticle I agree with.
basicly what katz says is:
Hollywood plots are full of cliches;
Hollywood has absolutely no clue about technology.
Well done katz.
BTW: Does anybody know if the WYSIWIG Problems
f ice-1.2-release-plan.html the WYSIWIG problem will be solved in kword 1.2, wich means several months of waiting.
of KWord are solved?
not yet. according to http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kof
I think VA failed more because they expanded too fast during the boom times, than because there wasn't a market.
this is true.
http://penguincomputing.com/ is still open for busines selling linux only servers/workstations.
wait 'till they come with their own AV soft...
nethack is a nice game, but it still falls short when compared to Elite
include this game in the next version of their distro ?
ooops. my fault. sorry.
at least now I know you read the comments. if at least john katz had this goog habit too...
requires copyright notice. Matt Michie needs a clue on licenses.
not all packages in a linus distro are based on GPL and XFree is one of this packages. It's based on XFree's own license, but in the arcticle Matt says about Red Flag's XFreee copyright notice: "it had an interesting copyright message, "(C) 2000 Red Flag Software and others." Certainly the GPL doesn't require an advertising clause".
a litle research before writing such an arcticle would've been a Good Thing(tm).
No, it's not.
it's hardcoded in the units FIRMWARE wich is SOFTWARE. it can be changed by either reflashing the firmware or replacing a chip. mostly the same thing ppl do with DVD players that needs an "internal surgery" with a soldering iron to become region free.
I don't think so, or you'd stoped writing all this nonsense a long time ago.
let's take a look at some parts of your delusional ideas:
"The Net has become an economic and utilitarian rather than social, political or idealistic network." : the internet _ALWAYS_ were an utilitarian network. The _MILITARY_ created and sponsored it in the 60's as a backup communication method to use in case of a nuclear war.
"Its grown too diffuse to have a center" : duh-uh. every large communication network becomes difuse whe it reaches global poportions. look the telephone system.
"For years, the hackers believed nobody could stop them. After the Napster battles, it was clear that lobbyists and lawmakers, especially conjunction with wealthy corporatists, could. Briefly, Napster was the heart of the Net, and the Napster era -- now over -- one of it's most pivotal periods. Perhaps inevitably, this wasn't a fight the good guys ever really had a shot at winning, although they were slow to see it. While free music is still widely available online - free software types and music and movie traders are all over the place - the Net, it's now clear, will not remain a free frontier except in certain isolated and idiosyncratic corners." : They still do, in the same way that Bin Laden still believes he can win over US of A. They have an ideal and they'll fight for it with all the weapons they have. doesn't matter if they're wright or wrong, hackers/terrorist/eco activists, etc are usually fanatics for what they're doing
the napster era IS NOT over. what you call "napster era" I call "peer-to-peer era". napster made the concept of p2p file sharing popular. if the software or the company is no-more there's others to fill the gap, and these ones goes titsup.com new ones will come. this is a fight _THE RECORDING INDUSTRY_ can't win.
I could go over and over, but I'm tired of this. Katz simply doesn't have a clue.
My company is selling control devices for a major brasilian telco which has as cpu a complete IBM-PC compatible computer built in a card no biger than 12cm x 12cm. It contains 1 Pentium MMX/K6, 2 72 pin simm memory connectors and a SiS chipset with buil-in graphics and sound.
In one edge of the card it have an I/O pannel with SVGA, mouse, keyboard, serial and paralel connectors and in the other an ISA-like male connector that plugs in the unit from where it draws power and comunicates with the rest of the unit. in the card itself it also has standard IDE and floppy connectors.
So, now I ask: What's the big deal with this IBM "invention" ?
actually Outlook Express has (had) some nasty bugs that allows some atachments to be automatically executed and IExplorer up to 5.5 IIRC would automatically execute scripts in an .eml file atached to web pages.
The default install could be a good idea to test the security for desktop installs, in this case a linux machine would have to include XFree (wich had its share of security holes in the past), but for a server only install I'd keep XFree out.
argue with the bartender if the drink you ordered doesn't come the way you wanted ?
or is the robot code opensource so you can hack it and teach it how to make it right or how to make something it doesn't know like caipirinha ?
"meanwhile i'll be using vnc, reading books, calculating my budget, reading archived webpages, and listening to mp3's ALL AT THE SAME TIME with my 'older' ipaq."
First: no need to use foul language. we're adult ppl here (at least I am).
second:
- using vnc
- reading books
- calculating my budget
- reading archived webpages
I always did this with Palm IIIC, so does my boss who bought the unit from me.
the only things in your list that a Palm IIIC doesn't do is MP3 and multitasking, but Clie does, Visor does too with an ad on, so does the new palms with SD/multimedia cards, so mp3 is not a _SOFTWARE_ limitation, it's hardware. the older palms didn't have mp3 support to keep them 2-3x cheaper than iPaqs.
And the multitasking issue: well I never missed it. but if you insist so much on that, remember the limitations the DragonBall CPU imposes, specially the memory issues. now that it'll run in a more powerfull hardware it maybe possible to do all that, but it'll be very strange to see VNC, e-book reader, budget app and off-line browser sharing space in the same 320x320 screen so you can do all the tasks AT THE SAME TIME...
BTW, iPaq decodes mp3 by software. if you put the player in background other apps becomes terribly slow or causes *CLICKS* and *PLOPS* in the music, so I _STILL_ don't see the point in having multitasking in a PDA...
read this:
"Palm OS 5 incorporates support for the APIs in Palm OS 4.0, thereby enabling existing software applications that comply with these APIs to run on Palm OS 5. This compatibility support ensures that an investment in 68000-based software is protected into the future. "
if I'm right this means a m68k-to-PowerPC style move where the new OS running in a new hardware will provide the software compatibility AND emulation of the older CPU machine language.
Now, will it keep the small size and memory footprint of older versions ?
My old Palm IIIC had 2 Mb of flash memory and only 1.4 Mb were actually used by the OS and PIM apps. compare this with the 14 Mb+ that WinCE or QTopia takes in my current iPaq and you'll see how eficiently and fast a 2-4 Mb PalmOS would run in ARM hardware.
now a question ? will Palm sell this new version to iPaq owners ? I'll certainly give it a try.
requires some methods, and since I'm too lazy today to look for the mothods they used to compile all that data, I'll create my own.
1- let's stablish what's a windows OS and what's a Linux OS (and the nots too)
1.1 Windows 3.1 is NOT an operational system. is a graphic user interface (GUI) for DOS. let's assume win 95/98/me and NT 3.5/4.0/2000/XP are OSes.
1.2 Linux is NOT an OS. Is a KERNEL. the combination between Linux and GNU OS makes the operational system we know as GNU/Linux
2 Let's determine the minimum instalation of each one that's capable of doing usefull work, including user tasks such as reading e-mail and browsing the web and server tasks such as serving web pages, sharing files, routing e-mail, et al.
2.1 Both in Windows and GNU/Linux you'll have to select all the packages neccessary to the proposed tasks using the minimum ofered by the standard install CD. If the CD doesn't ofer some of the functionalities they must be downloaded from the manufacturer's site.
2.2.1 for windows you'll keep only:
- networking drivers;
- the standard MS file sharing;
- Internet Explorer;
- Outlook express/MS mail;
- IIS/personal web server
- Exchange server;
2.2.1 For GNU/Linux:
- Network modules and associated tools;
- NFS or Samba;
- Mutt os pine (remember, in GNU/Linux you can read e-mail/browse from command line, so XFree is not installed);
- Lynx or Links
- Apache;
- Sendmail;
3 count the number of security holes in the test systems, including:
- vulnerabilities to e-mail virii;
- vulnerabilities to malicious web-pages;
- remote exploits that grant root/administrator access;
- local exploits that grant root/administrator access;
- holes that allows an atacker to succesfully launch a DoS atack, freezing the machine;
- unauthorized read and/or write access to files;
- any other vulnerability you can think of;
In a test like this who do you think'll win ? please post your comments.
nahhh. is not a computer. no copyright for me here :-(