Besides, I don't understand why people here are so afraid to give legal advice. Look at the situation, look at the people. Slashdot is made up of a bunch of geeks, people who are a bit brighter than your average ex-college football player. These are the people who aquire, store, sort, process and transport information using electrons and photons.
Lawyers are ex-football jock types who know diddly squat yet managed to graduate.
And the Slashdot crowd is afraid to give legal advice?
What, are you afraid the big jock will give you a wedgie again?
Yeah and SCO didn't have to write a damn thing. Maybe.....maybe they wrote a couple lines of code (they have yet to prove that) but they intend to charge for ALL of it. All the work that everyone else has done for free, all that effort that has been put into Linux that nobody else is charging for and SCO thinks.......
I'll agree with you on the motor oil thing. But we also have to be aware that people are actively looking for replacements and ways to discourage it's use (and all petrolium products) because they feel that any use or any means of disposal is improper. They don't discourage it yet because there is no alternative.
As for the enviro-nazis, I and many others call them that because that's what they are. I live in North Idaho where, until recently, we have had to put up with Nazis. The real deal, jack booted thugs, spawn of Hitler, Himmler and Satan. We also have to put up with people like the Rock Creek Alliance, the EPA, the Bunker Hill Superfund and several indian nations who use the same tactics. Those groups simply persue money while claiming to care about the environment. In the end they cause more harm to the environment and destroy lives which is all fine by them as long as the money flows.
I have a tad bit more respect for Aryan Nations and Americas Promise who simply persue pure evil and make no bones about it.
I think you guess right, at least for some. Morse code is one of those things that you kind of have to do to understand. If you haven't held a QSO (conversation) in morse and developed the skills then there is no way to fully appreciate the art.
You are correct that it doesn't have any practical use, especially on the net. Then again there isn't any real use for the Mona Lisa, Dixie Chicks CD's, or internet pr0n. There doesn't have to be a use for something to be done, used, enjoyed, whatever.
Up here we look at things like this: If it's done in California then it's wrong. I'm not trying to pick a fight here on this, just pointing out that where I live has a large population of ex-Californians. These are people who firmly believe that California is so screwed up......
Ok, whatever. Just that your subject line set off alarm bells.
Good point on the bike. The capital outlay is a hell of a lot less and I'm sure the TCO can't be beat. The only advantage I can see this car having vs. a motorcycle is the ability to operate it in the rain and stay dry.
For about $65,000 less you could get one of the nicest bikes made, a trailer, and all sorts of accessories. When it rains you just stay home.
(Um.....well, in California you can. We have half a year of snow here so...um....I won't go there).:)
Please consider these facts: We no longer smelt lead in this country. The EPA and enviro-nazis have put such pressure on the mining industry that these jobs have been moved to places like Mexico where they have little or no regulatory "problems". While the enviro-nazis are pleased with this loss of domestic jobs their actions have actually caused an increase in environmental damage. Lead is now smelted (because we still have to have it for things like batteries) in ways that are not "friendly" to the environment, it's just not done in our own back yard. The problem is worse now than it ever was...but it's "not our problem." Encouraging lead/acid powered electric vehicles will only encourage further damage. It's time to ask yourself if you honestly care about the environment as a whole, or just your back yard.
You pointed out that "nobody is allowed to touch old air conditioning systems unless..." What does this encourage? Does this better the environment? Human nature doesn't work that way. You can now go to Wal-Mart and purchase a $40 kit to convert your car AC system from R-12 to R-134. The package warns you that you have to have a "qualified professional" recover the R-12. How many people actually are going to pay the money to do that vs. the people that are just going to crack the valve and let it leak? Been there, done that. I don't know of any backyard mechanic who's actually taken his R-12 in to be recovered.
My experience has been that most of the things people do in the name of "environmental protection" are bogus. Claims regarding this car to that end are similar. This car is being built simply because it can be built and someone can make a profit. It's a novelty. Read the article again and you'll see that the engineer seems to go from one money making project to another. He's not actually on some crusade to save the environment as the article makes it sound. If that were the case he would be addressing all the related issues such as the supply chain, the chemicals used to create the body and seats, and everything else. Why not be a big boy and admit up front that he hopes to make a profit? No shame in that.
You bring up a good point. I was raised in a silver/lead/zinc mining area back in the day when mining and using those metals was considered "a good thing." These days it's considered evil and the EPA now conducts a mining operation there to remove the lead, not for industrial use or anything productive but because.....well, it's lead and it must be removed.
So here we are discussing a vehicle that is suppose to do something positive for the environment. The car is packed with lead (which the EPA and enviro-nazis have said is evil) and acid. Somebody pointed out that in an accident you have the potential for an acid spill. When the batteries are shot you are somehow going to have to find a way to dispose of them or contain them until you recycle them.
You're right, we're just trading one type of pollution for another.
Displaying the results of measurements. Only a few small parts of the screen are active, everything else can be unchanged for hours. The last thing I want to have to do while I'm tuning stuff is reach over and tap a key on the computer every 10 minutes to keep the screen up.
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"a feature in Windows XP"
Oh, then we gotta have it. Quick, get a development team on it post haste.
Somebody else go get a copy of XP and see what else it has. If it's got it then we need it.
I haven't heard that much whining since the drive in my kids Playstation died.
After reading the LRP page three times I still don't see what this guys problem is. But I'm not suprised, he sounds like a ham radio operator. In ham radio you get these guys all the time who build repeaters or packet nodes and then one day they get all pissy and destroy what they built as if someone owed them.
I hope this guy will someday find some peace in his life.
"Dude.... how much is a cellphone now? Aren't they giving them away in blister packs at the grocers?"
In third world countries?!?!? The last time I was in one of those places they wern't giving anything away. Hell you couldn't even get a decent selection of sanitary food in some of those places.
It's true that cell phones cost far less than they used to due to the scale of mass production. Still most retail for $150 US on up. The ones being "given away" are usually refurbs as those have no other market value and it's a cheap way for the carrier to get you to spend an airtime dollar if you're too cheap to sign a contract and buy a phone.
The difference as I see it is that this radio market is going to be a tiny fraction of what the cellular communications market is. So I doubt there will be the kind of numbers you need to bring receiver price down that far that fast.
Maybe the MW market will help drive the price down somewhat and make it afordable for the SWL market. But MW is a hurting market too. If you're in the US you might remember how the MW broadcasters tried like hell to save their market share with the miracle of AM stereo. Or maybe you don't remember that...which would make my point. A lot of people just don't bother with that band because they can get all the programming they want on the VHF FM band without propagation flutter and fade.
Seems to me that the MW and SW listeners are a different breed with different requirements. They're not after high quality signal, they're just happy to have signal. They're not after full digital stereo news, they're just happy to hear the news at all.
Besides, Rush Limbaugh gets his point across in analog mono just the same as he would in digital stereo.:)
Part of what makes AM Medium or Shortwave so important is the ability to receive it with inexpensive receivers. If there is something you want or need to listen to there and you live in some third world country, chances are you're not going to be able to afford some nice new digital receiver.
And remember that the third world is usually the target audience for this stuff. It's used to get religious or political programming to those who wouldn't otherwise hear such things due to financial or political circumstance.
There's the hobbiest market too. I think one of the reasons that Heathkit faded away was the trend toward more complexity. You can still buy a kit or build from scratch a radio to pick up shortwave broadcasts. It's a great learning experience and takes few parts. You're just not gonna do that with a digital unit.
So the way I see it this is like HDTV. Nice toys, but who the hell really needs them. There really isn't a huge market going "hey, I need a better resolution TV picture" and there isn't a market begging for digital MW or SW radio.
Then again I could be wrong. There's a first for everything.
Yes, this is true. And the whole radar game ignores the fact that the instrument, the way it is used, is inaccurate. The officers receive little or no training in proper use, theory, safety, etc. For any of them who actually look at the owners manual (rare, they're all in my file cabinet and I have yet to have one ask to see it) there isn't a lot of information in there. The manual sure brags on how good and reliable the unit is and mentions nothing of falsing.
I've taken factory fresh units, calibrated and certified, and measured buildings moving 30 MPH, cars doing 90 in a school zone, and trains that were sitting still while whizzing by me. And still I've lost in court myself. It's the word of a sworn officer vs you and yours don't count. The state makes it's revenue, have a nice day.
A Bully beats someone up just to get his way. Mafia beats someone up in the name of "business" and that's what the RIAA does. They might like you, hell they might be your best friend, but "business is business" and when it comes time for the cement shoes it's all done in the name of business and we hope there aren't any hard feelings.
What I want to know is why nobody has mentioned bringing up the RIAA on racketeering charges. Seems to me it's not far fetched. Their "business" practices really do resemble mafia "business" tactics.
SMTP doesn't support a subject line? I didn't realize that's what the difference was. I haven't run into any problems with it but you could just as easily use the first line of the message body and set up to filter on that.
Yes, you read that right. No, I'm not full of shit. (Ok, maybe I am, but not on this point.)
Anybody who wants to email me knows that they have to put a certain phrase in the subject line. I've set up the filters in Kmail so that anything that doesn't contain that phrase goes into the void and I only see the stuff with the phrase.
So when I give out my email address to someone so they can write me, or when I reply to somone, I give them instructions on what is required.
I still get about 200 pieces of crap a day, but I am never bothered by them. It's a little drastic because there are times when you want somthing unsolicited. But with 200 items per day that didn't have any value, email was something I just couldn't use.
And there's another point that the spammers just don't get. Of all the people I've talked to, most people don't use email as often as they once did. Some have given it up altogether. Why? Because of the spam. So here you have people paying to advertise and yet they are hitting so hard that the use of the media is decreasing. Spam is self defeating.
Obviously the people with the money just don't get it.
"Then again, their lawyers have to put the best public face on whatever rotten hand their client and the facts have dealt them."
No. Absolutly they do not. I don't have to repair radios and computers for people who I know are using them for illegal things like making and selling drugs or child porn or some shit. And lawyers do not have to be part of anything dishonest just because a potential client asks it of them.
Lawyers, like anyone else, are supposed to be bound by a code of ethics. "Common" business ethics would be just a starting point for them.
So your theory doesn't apply here. One of two conditions exist:
1) The lawyers looked at SCO's case and felt that it had merit.
or
2) SCO's legal team is a bunch of money grabbing unethical bastards who are taking SCO for what money they can and don't give a rat's ass about the law, ethics, the software industry, their own mothers or anything else.
Think about your experiences with lawyers and you decide which of those two options is most likely.
If none of the above tricks work to get the screw out, use the Dremel tool to drill or cut the stand-off/mount away from the case. Chances are then that you'll want to get a new case but WTF, they're cheaper than the board.
Once you have the board free you'll have more room to work on getting the remaining mount and offending screw to part ways.
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I love it!!!
Besides, I don't understand why people here are so afraid to give legal advice. Look at the situation, look at the people. Slashdot is made up of a bunch of geeks, people who are a bit brighter than your average ex-college football player. These are the people who aquire, store, sort, process and transport information using electrons and photons.
Lawyers are ex-football jock types who know diddly squat yet managed to graduate.
And the Slashdot crowd is afraid to give legal advice?
What, are you afraid the big jock will give you a wedgie again?
Yeah and SCO didn't have to write a damn thing. Maybe.....maybe they wrote a couple lines of code (they have yet to prove that) but they intend to charge for ALL of it. All the work that everyone else has done for free, all that effort that has been put into Linux that nobody else is charging for and SCO thinks.......
Holy shit! I want to live in SCO's fantasy world.
Get freakin real!
"Everybody is talking about carbon nanotubes these days."
I have such boring conversations with people. We never get on to good topics like this. Maybe I need to get out more?
This has been a good exchange.
I'll agree with you on the motor oil thing. But we also have to be aware that people are actively looking for replacements and ways to discourage it's use (and all petrolium products) because they feel that any use or any means of disposal is improper. They don't discourage it yet because there is no alternative.
As for the enviro-nazis, I and many others call them that because that's what they are. I live in North Idaho where, until recently, we have had to put up with Nazis. The real deal, jack booted thugs, spawn of Hitler, Himmler and Satan. We also have to put up with people like the Rock Creek Alliance, the EPA, the Bunker Hill Superfund and several indian nations who use the same tactics. Those groups simply persue money while claiming to care about the environment. In the end they cause more harm to the environment and destroy lives which is all fine by them as long as the money flows.
I have a tad bit more respect for Aryan Nations and Americas Promise who simply persue pure evil and make no bones about it.
I think you guess right, at least for some. Morse code is one of those things that you kind of have to do to understand. If you haven't held a QSO (conversation) in morse and developed the skills then there is no way to fully appreciate the art.
You are correct that it doesn't have any practical use, especially on the net. Then again there isn't any real use for the Mona Lisa, Dixie Chicks CD's, or internet pr0n. There doesn't have to be a use for something to be done, used, enjoyed, whatever.
I know I shouldn't say this...but...
:)
Up here we look at things like this: If it's done in California then it's wrong. I'm not trying to pick a fight here on this, just pointing out that where I live has a large population of ex-Californians. These are people who firmly believe that California is so screwed up......
Ok, whatever. Just that your subject line set off alarm bells.
Good point on the bike. The capital outlay is a hell of a lot less and I'm sure the TCO can't be beat. The only advantage I can see this car having vs. a motorcycle is the ability to operate it in the rain and stay dry.
For about $65,000 less you could get one of the nicest bikes made, a trailer, and all sorts of accessories. When it rains you just stay home.
(Um.....well, in California you can. We have half a year of snow here so...um....I won't go there).
You make some good points.
Please consider these facts: We no longer smelt lead in this country. The EPA and enviro-nazis have put such pressure on the mining industry that these jobs have been moved to places like Mexico where they have little or no regulatory "problems". While the enviro-nazis are pleased with this loss of domestic jobs their actions have actually caused an increase in environmental damage. Lead is now smelted (because we still have to have it for things like batteries) in ways that are not "friendly" to the environment, it's just not done in our own back yard. The problem is worse now than it ever was...but it's "not our problem." Encouraging lead/acid powered electric vehicles will only encourage further damage. It's time to ask yourself if you honestly care about the environment as a whole, or just your back yard.
You pointed out that "nobody is allowed to touch old air conditioning systems unless..." What does this encourage? Does this better the environment? Human nature doesn't work that way. You can now go to Wal-Mart and purchase a $40 kit to convert your car AC system from R-12 to R-134. The package warns you that you have to have a "qualified professional" recover the R-12. How many people actually are going to pay the money to do that vs. the people that are just going to crack the valve and let it leak? Been there, done that. I don't know of any backyard mechanic who's actually taken his R-12 in to be recovered.
My experience has been that most of the things people do in the name of "environmental protection" are bogus. Claims regarding this car to that end are similar. This car is being built simply because it can be built and someone can make a profit. It's a novelty. Read the article again and you'll see that the engineer seems to go from one money making project to another. He's not actually on some crusade to save the environment as the article makes it sound. If that were the case he would be addressing all the related issues such as the supply chain, the chemicals used to create the body and seats, and everything else. Why not be a big boy and admit up front that he hopes to make a profit? No shame in that.
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You bring up a good point. I was raised in a silver/lead/zinc mining area back in the day when mining and using those metals was considered "a good thing." These days it's considered evil and the EPA now conducts a mining operation there to remove the lead, not for industrial use or anything productive but because.....well, it's lead and it must be removed.
So here we are discussing a vehicle that is suppose to do something positive for the environment. The car is packed with lead (which the EPA and enviro-nazis have said is evil) and acid. Somebody pointed out that in an accident you have the potential for an acid spill. When the batteries are shot you are somehow going to have to find a way to dispose of them or contain them until you recycle them.
You're right, we're just trading one type of pollution for another.
"A narrow car could double up in lanes or even travel between lanes, like a motorcycle."
Just in case you were looking for another way to break the law or risk the lives of others.
How dare you argue pro-capitialism. You have some nerve mister.
/. after all, home of the socialists and playground of the left.
This is
Go away and take your filthy desire for profit, progress and the American way with you. We have no use for that here.
"Now ruining a natural habitat..."
I'm just asking, so keep your shorts on.
Where in history do we see an example of that?
Displaying the results of measurements. Only a few small parts of the screen are active, everything else can be unchanged for hours. The last thing I want to have to do while I'm tuning stuff is reach over and tap a key on the computer every 10 minutes to keep the screen up.
"a feature in Windows XP"
Oh, then we gotta have it. Quick, get a development team on it post haste.
Somebody else go get a copy of XP and see what else it has. If it's got it then we need it.
And how's our BSOD development team doing?
I haven't heard that much whining since the drive in my kids Playstation died.
After reading the LRP page three times I still don't see what this guys problem is. But I'm not suprised, he sounds like a ham radio operator. In ham radio you get these guys all the time who build repeaters or packet nodes and then one day they get all pissy and destroy what they built as if someone owed them.
I hope this guy will someday find some peace in his life.
"Dude.... how much is a cellphone now? Aren't they giving them away in blister packs at the grocers?"
:)
In third world countries?!?!? The last time I was in one of those places they wern't giving anything away. Hell you couldn't even get a decent selection of sanitary food in some of those places.
It's true that cell phones cost far less than they used to due to the scale of mass production. Still most retail for $150 US on up. The ones being "given away" are usually refurbs as those have no other market value and it's a cheap way for the carrier to get you to spend an airtime dollar if you're too cheap to sign a contract and buy a phone.
The difference as I see it is that this radio market is going to be a tiny fraction of what the cellular communications market is. So I doubt there will be the kind of numbers you need to bring receiver price down that far that fast.
Maybe the MW market will help drive the price down somewhat and make it afordable for the SWL market. But MW is a hurting market too. If you're in the US you might remember how the MW broadcasters tried like hell to save their market share with the miracle of AM stereo. Or maybe you don't remember that...which would make my point. A lot of people just don't bother with that band because they can get all the programming they want on the VHF FM band without propagation flutter and fade.
Seems to me that the MW and SW listeners are a different breed with different requirements. They're not after high quality signal, they're just happy to have signal. They're not after full digital stereo news, they're just happy to hear the news at all.
Besides, Rush Limbaugh gets his point across in analog mono just the same as he would in digital stereo.
We have FM or Sat radio for this kind of quality.
Part of what makes AM Medium or Shortwave so important is the ability to receive it with inexpensive receivers. If there is something you want or need to listen to there and you live in some third world country, chances are you're not going to be able to afford some nice new digital receiver.
And remember that the third world is usually the target audience for this stuff. It's used to get religious or political programming to those who wouldn't otherwise hear such things due to financial or political circumstance.
There's the hobbiest market too. I think one of the reasons that Heathkit faded away was the trend toward more complexity. You can still buy a kit or build from scratch a radio to pick up shortwave broadcasts. It's a great learning experience and takes few parts. You're just not gonna do that with a digital unit.
So the way I see it this is like HDTV. Nice toys, but who the hell really needs them. There really isn't a huge market going "hey, I need a better resolution TV picture" and there isn't a market begging for digital MW or SW radio.
Then again I could be wrong. There's a first for everything.
"Lawyers aren't stupid."
That could be debated.
Yes, this is true. And the whole radar game ignores the fact that the instrument, the way it is used, is inaccurate. The officers receive little or no training in proper use, theory, safety, etc. For any of them who actually look at the owners manual (rare, they're all in my file cabinet and I have yet to have one ask to see it) there isn't a lot of information in there. The manual sure brags on how good and reliable the unit is and mentions nothing of falsing.
I've taken factory fresh units, calibrated and certified, and measured buildings moving 30 MPH, cars doing 90 in a school zone, and trains that were sitting still while whizzing by me. And still I've lost in court myself. It's the word of a sworn officer vs you and yours don't count. The state makes it's revenue, have a nice day.
Nobody ever said cops and courts were honest.
Just imagine a Beowolf cluster of these.
Doh! Wait! QNX doesn't do that.
Never mind.
A Bully beats someone up just to get his way. Mafia beats someone up in the name of "business" and that's what the RIAA does. They might like you, hell they might be your best friend, but "business is business" and when it comes time for the cement shoes it's all done in the name of business and we hope there aren't any hard feelings.
What I want to know is why nobody has mentioned bringing up the RIAA on racketeering charges. Seems to me it's not far fetched. Their "business" practices really do resemble mafia "business" tactics.
SMTP doesn't support a subject line? I didn't realize that's what the difference was. I haven't run into any problems with it but you could just as easily use the first line of the message body and set up to filter on that.
My spam problem has already been solved.
Yes, you read that right. No, I'm not full of shit. (Ok, maybe I am, but not on this point.)
Anybody who wants to email me knows that they have to put a certain phrase in the subject line. I've set up the filters in Kmail so that anything that doesn't contain that phrase goes into the void and I only see the stuff with the phrase.
So when I give out my email address to someone so they can write me, or when I reply to somone, I give them instructions on what is required.
I still get about 200 pieces of crap a day, but I am never bothered by them. It's a little drastic because there are times when you want somthing unsolicited. But with 200 items per day that didn't have any value, email was something I just couldn't use.
And there's another point that the spammers just don't get. Of all the people I've talked to, most people don't use email as often as they once did. Some have given it up altogether. Why? Because of the spam. So here you have people paying to advertise and yet they are hitting so hard that the use of the media is decreasing. Spam is self defeating.
Obviously the people with the money just don't get it.
They rarely do.
Just one more reason I've never had a desire to live in California (or have anyplace else californiacated).
When I die, I hope that I go straight to hell. Just so long as there isn't a layover in California.
"Then again, their lawyers have to put the best public face on whatever rotten hand their client and the facts have dealt them."
No. Absolutly they do not. I don't have to repair radios and computers for people who I know are using them for illegal things like making and selling drugs or child porn or some shit. And lawyers do not have to be part of anything dishonest just because a potential client asks it of them.
Lawyers, like anyone else, are supposed to be bound by a code of ethics. "Common" business ethics would be just a starting point for them.
So your theory doesn't apply here. One of two conditions exist:
1) The lawyers looked at SCO's case and felt that it had merit.
or
2) SCO's legal team is a bunch of money grabbing unethical bastards who are taking SCO for what money they can and don't give a rat's ass about the law, ethics, the software industry, their own mothers or anything else.
Think about your experiences with lawyers and you decide which of those two options is most likely.
The worst case is a new case.
If none of the above tricks work to get the screw out, use the Dremel tool to drill or cut the stand-off/mount away from the case. Chances are then that you'll want to get a new case but WTF, they're cheaper than the board.
Once you have the board free you'll have more room to work on getting the remaining mount and offending screw to part ways.