I'm confused. My understanding is that Linux refers to the kernel. So does SCO have a bitch about something in Linux, or in some of the tools that are commonly packaged with Linux and sold as a distro?
If that's the case then why not 86 those items and replace with something else?
No way. That piece has to be wrong. There's no "scientific" proof.
Face it, the world is comming to an end. Doom is near. The world has been comming to an end ever since there were environmentalists and you're not about to change that now with one silly article.
I see your point about that. But I wasn't really thinking about a text display. It seems that more and more of what we do with computers is based upon icons and such. I was imagining something such as a steering wheel with a display on it that contained guages and perhaps touch sensitive switches.
Yes, if you're working in text then right angles are nice. Even more wonderful would be a nice 8.5 X 11 monitor to print to, just so you know it's perfect before you spend the money on that expensive ink.
Seriously, now that LCD displays are becomming the norm and CRT's seem to be on the out, why do these things have to be square?
I wonder if we'll soon see LCD or similar displays start to conform to the other shapes we see in our world. I know I saw one in a car that had nothing but nice curves, except for the sharp angles of the LCD and it looked so out of place.
While I'm sure you were trying to be funny, you've listed just the kind of crap that is killing this show.
Yes, a nice set of knockers is wonderful, but the fans would rather see a good story.
Yes, cool special effects like the ship blowing up are wonderful, but they don't make a story in themselves.
Love triangles are wonderful, but there are already 10000 shows doing that. We're tired of that, we watch Enterprise to get away from it.
Series cancelled? Well, mom did teach me if you couldn't say anything nice not to say it at all. Maybe then it would be best to cancel the series since they don't want to say anything with it.
It sounds like I'm very much in the minority here that likes the show as it is. It does take time for the characters and stories to develop but I think this series has done the best job of that since TOS. And it had all the feel of a show that was ready to take on issues of our day, like TOS.
So now they want to make some drastic change to impress non-fans. Wonderful. Anyone remember Sea Quest? There was a show that was off to a good start but once it got on track and just started building up steam they just had to screw with it.
Ever seen Andromeda? I doubt you have but it was another Roddenbery show that was just getting good when WHAM! they decide it needs a little more pep.....so they turn the damn thing into a freakin soap opera!
What made Star Trek TOS so good was that you didn't have to see every episode. You could see a single show and figure out the relationships of the crew and the jist of the federation of planets. Each show was its own story and that story dealt with some social or political issue it a way that didn't make a statement but got you to think of a statement of your own. At the end of the show it was done and if you came back next week it was because you liked that, not for some cliff hangar. I only remember a single episode that was a two part, and that had to be done because there really was no way to tell that story in an hour, not just for the sake of cliff hanging.
And there's the problem. Berman seems to want drama for the sake of drama, not for the sake of a good story.
IMHO, I like the show the way it is and wish they wouldn't fsck with it too much.
Where I work they no longer use email for about half of the employees. They had given them email accounts as part of bringing the county "21st century tools". While email was supposed to have the biggest benefit it turned out to be the biggest flop.
Turns out that the end users didn't use it because of the spam distraction. Most of the mail they got was spam so they ignored it all. When the computer geeks put spam filters on they worked for a while but it became too much work for them and by then the end users had already soured on the concept of email.
So now that email is no longer a valid business tool because of spam I wonder if it is the valid marketing tool that the spammers think it is. If fewer people are using email because of spam then fewer spam is being read.
I dunno. I've about quit using email too so I don't know that I really care either. I now stay in touch with those I care to using web BBS's rather than email.....no spam.
Send this guy on over to my shop. I'll start by putting him in my 911 center. Then he can either convince my bosses of what he says or he can help me fight the interference that is driving me nuts.
Sounds like this guy could use some experience in the real world anyway. Not that I disagree with him, just that I think the world he lives in is a perfect, wonderful, simple place that is not this world.
"I mean, this row of secretaries over here saving dozens of trees by using Word Excel and Email are really confused because they're getting their jobs done with an obviously broken operating system..."
The same is true of our clerks, detectives, roads foremen, and dispatchers who are using Linux with either KDE or Gnome. We keep hearing that Linux won't be ready for the desktop anytime soon, these people are going to flip when it finally arrives!
The headline confuses me. Am I to understand that this ruling only applies to Disney? If I create something and copyright it then I will not receive the copyright protection that Disney receives? Only a Disney copyright is indefinite, all others expire?
Jesus H. in a freakin chicken basket! I sure wish the/. crew would pull their heads out of their collective ass.
What makes you think this topic was an accident? I have a hunch that the/. editors posted this as an anti-microsoft blurb on purpose. With that in mind they didn't need to read the stinking article.
If you look at recent "environmental" "news" they've put up on here they've done the same sort of thing: did not read the target article or totally disregarded it and added their own political opinion.
Hemos has an anti-Microsoft axe to grind. Not that I blame him there but I think he's a wee bit too eager.
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"Serious question: on the desktop, is there anything Linux can do that Windows can't?"
In my limited experience there isn't with the exception of proprietary software (as in this case). But there might be some other things that Windows is better at (there just must be, I'm sure of it, isn't there?)
"Then it wouldn't actually be cheaper, would it? TCO means total cost of ownership."
Yup. I think quite often people forget that cost is measured in terms other than just dollars.
The equipment we're using is what most 911 centers use, especially the major ones. Motorola Centracom and Dictaphone recording equipment.
Odds are your local center is running much the same.
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This is all fine and dandy but money isn't the object. It's about what you want to do and how you want to do it. If *nix does what you want and Windows doesn't then the choice is made for you. If they both do what you want but your people are more comfortable doing it in Windows then that's what you go with.
I'm not saying that money isn't a factor at all. Sure it is. But if money was the main factor in the decision for a company, and I were a stockholder in that company, I would be very concerned. If they were switching from Windows to *nix based on cost, I would have to wonder if their eye was really on the end goal.
In my case I operate a public safety system, a 911 dispatch center. Our radio consoles and recording system all use Windows NT and 2K. We KNOW it would be cheaper to use *nix. We KNOW the system would be more reliable. Our CAD system runs AIX and sets a great example to prove the point. All that doesn't matter one single bit. Why? First off it's propriatary equipment and only runs on Windows so we cant change it. Second we couldn't justify the down time for the change and operator training.
It's not about price or TCO. If that's what starts to drive the *nix community then they will lose big time. Focus on doing a job, doing it well, and making it a pleasure to do the job. That will win customers/users in the end, not price.
This comming from a man know by family and friends as a tightwad.
I realize that it's all the rage to worry about the environment everytime someone sneezes. But......
Why would these things be a threat. I thought the would contain all sorts of valuable metal that would be recycled. I guess my thought was that would make sense for financial reasons (recover some $$$) if not for feel good enviro whacko reasons.
You guys are trying to mix political terms with science in a very odd way just to stir something up here. Anywhere else on here and this would be modded down.
Conservative science means running the experiment twice instead of once.
It is not the same as conservative politics, which I think all this was supposed to be about. Unfortunatly the author, and the/. editiors it seems, had a political axe to grind.
So now we are left with a parent post that is not a good report on politics, not a good report on science, and is just not good reporting at all.
Or am I wrong? Is it more important to grind the political axe than to have honor in journalism?
"Would my car perform any better if I had the precise engineering details about how every little part worked?
Yes, you do, and yes, it does."
Oh really? Could you please tell us all how to access that? My car is a 1996 and to this day the only place I can get plugs and MAP sensors for it is Ford. The major aftermarket suppliers have told me that's because Ford hasn't released the data.
Speaking of data, the computers seem to be closed devices as well. I would love to have all of the engineering details about them and the source code. In my case, working on public safety vehicles, I could modify those (especially the body control module) to make the vehicle more safe for the operator to do their job.
You guys need to find another industry for an example. The automotive industry is what Microsoft uses as an EXAMPLE, both in engineering and business practices.
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Sometimes it's not always about free speech.
Using your real name is never good, using a fake does give you a small measure of security from the lunatics out there.
I'm not sure if Korea either doesn't have lunatics to worry about or if they like to help them along as much as possible.
I'm confused. My understanding is that Linux refers to the kernel. So does SCO have a bitch about something in Linux, or in some of the tools that are commonly packaged with Linux and sold as a distro?
If that's the case then why not 86 those items and replace with something else?
Can someone clear that up for me?
"Interestingly, they're both named after cars I often see in my neighbors' lawns."
This is interesting how?
No way. That piece has to be wrong. There's no "scientific" proof.
Face it, the world is comming to an end. Doom is near. The world has been comming to an end ever since there were environmentalists and you're not about to change that now with one silly article.
Doom I tell you! Doom!
What's so hard about a circle, oval, or anything else? Define center then use degrees X distance from center.
Um....think outside the bun.
I see your point about that. But I wasn't really thinking about a text display. It seems that more and more of what we do with computers is based upon icons and such. I was imagining something such as a steering wheel with a display on it that contained guages and perhaps touch sensitive switches.
Yes, if you're working in text then right angles are nice. Even more wonderful would be a nice 8.5 X 11 monitor to print to, just so you know it's perfect before you spend the money on that expensive ink.
Like be hip man.
Seriously, now that LCD displays are becomming the norm and CRT's seem to be on the out, why do these things have to be square?
I wonder if we'll soon see LCD or similar displays start to conform to the other shapes we see in our world. I know I saw one in a car that had nothing but nice curves, except for the sharp angles of the LCD and it looked so out of place.
While I'm sure you were trying to be funny, you've listed just the kind of crap that is killing this show.
Yes, a nice set of knockers is wonderful, but the fans would rather see a good story.
Yes, cool special effects like the ship blowing up are wonderful, but they don't make a story in themselves.
Love triangles are wonderful, but there are already 10000 shows doing that. We're tired of that, we watch Enterprise to get away from it.
Series cancelled? Well, mom did teach me if you couldn't say anything nice not to say it at all. Maybe then it would be best to cancel the series since they don't want to say anything with it.
This is nothing new, LA is behind the times. Post Falls, Idaho has been doing this and more for quite a while now.
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It sounds like I'm very much in the minority here that likes the show as it is. It does take time for the characters and stories to develop but I think this series has done the best job of that since TOS. And it had all the feel of a show that was ready to take on issues of our day, like TOS.
So now they want to make some drastic change to impress non-fans. Wonderful. Anyone remember Sea Quest? There was a show that was off to a good start but once it got on track and just started building up steam they just had to screw with it.
Ever seen Andromeda? I doubt you have but it was another Roddenbery show that was just getting good when WHAM! they decide it needs a little more pep.....so they turn the damn thing into a freakin soap opera!
What made Star Trek TOS so good was that you didn't have to see every episode. You could see a single show and figure out the relationships of the crew and the jist of the federation of planets. Each show was its own story and that story dealt with some social or political issue it a way that didn't make a statement but got you to think of a statement of your own. At the end of the show it was done and if you came back next week it was because you liked that, not for some cliff hangar. I only remember a single episode that was a two part, and that had to be done because there really was no way to tell that story in an hour, not just for the sake of cliff hanging.
And there's the problem. Berman seems to want drama for the sake of drama, not for the sake of a good story.
IMHO, I like the show the way it is and wish they wouldn't fsck with it too much.
Who really gives a flying GNU/fuck?
Where I work they no longer use email for about half of the employees. They had given them email accounts as part of bringing the county "21st century tools". While email was supposed to have the biggest benefit it turned out to be the biggest flop.
Turns out that the end users didn't use it because of the spam distraction. Most of the mail they got was spam so they ignored it all. When the computer geeks put spam filters on they worked for a while but it became too much work for them and by then the end users had already soured on the concept of email.
So now that email is no longer a valid business tool because of spam I wonder if it is the valid marketing tool that the spammers think it is. If fewer people are using email because of spam then fewer spam is being read.
I dunno. I've about quit using email too so I don't know that I really care either. I now stay in touch with those I care to using web BBS's rather than email.....no spam.
It's going to be very interesting to see how they market this incompatibility as a feature.
Send this guy on over to my shop. I'll start by putting him in my 911 center. Then he can either convince my bosses of what he says or he can help me fight the interference that is driving me nuts.
Sounds like this guy could use some experience in the real world anyway. Not that I disagree with him, just that I think the world he lives in is a perfect, wonderful, simple place that is not this world.
"I mean, this row of secretaries over here saving dozens of trees by using Word Excel and Email are really confused because they're getting their jobs done with an obviously broken operating system..."
The same is true of our clerks, detectives, roads foremen, and dispatchers who are using Linux with either KDE or Gnome. We keep hearing that Linux won't be ready for the desktop anytime soon, these people are going to flip when it finally arrives!
I have no idea why but I receive a lot of spam in korean.
The headline confuses me. Am I to understand that this ruling only applies to Disney? If I create something and copyright it then I will not receive the copyright protection that Disney receives? Only a Disney copyright is indefinite, all others expire?
/. crew would pull their heads out of their collective ass.
Jesus H. in a freakin chicken basket! I sure wish the
What makes you think this topic was an accident? I have a hunch that the /. editors posted this as an anti-microsoft blurb on purpose. With that in mind they didn't need to read the stinking article.
If you look at recent "environmental" "news" they've put up on here they've done the same sort of thing: did not read the target article or totally disregarded it and added their own political opinion.
Hemos has an anti-Microsoft axe to grind. Not that I blame him there but I think he's a wee bit too eager.
"Serious question: on the desktop, is there anything Linux can do that Windows can't?"
In my limited experience there isn't with the exception of proprietary software (as in this case). But there might be some other things that Windows is better at (there just must be, I'm sure of it, isn't there?)
"Then it wouldn't actually be cheaper, would it? TCO means total cost of ownership."
Yup. I think quite often people forget that cost is measured in terms other than just dollars.
The equipment we're using is what most 911 centers use, especially the major ones. Motorola Centracom and Dictaphone recording equipment.
Odds are your local center is running much the same.
This is all fine and dandy but money isn't the object. It's about what you want to do and how you want to do it. If *nix does what you want and Windows doesn't then the choice is made for you. If they both do what you want but your people are more comfortable doing it in Windows then that's what you go with.
I'm not saying that money isn't a factor at all. Sure it is. But if money was the main factor in the decision for a company, and I were a stockholder in that company, I would be very concerned. If they were switching from Windows to *nix based on cost, I would have to wonder if their eye was really on the end goal.
In my case I operate a public safety system, a 911 dispatch center. Our radio consoles and recording system all use Windows NT and 2K. We KNOW it would be cheaper to use *nix. We KNOW the system would be more reliable. Our CAD system runs AIX and sets a great example to prove the point. All that doesn't matter one single bit. Why? First off it's propriatary equipment and only runs on Windows so we cant change it. Second we couldn't justify the down time for the change and operator training.
It's not about price or TCO. If that's what starts to drive the *nix community then they will lose big time. Focus on doing a job, doing it well, and making it a pleasure to do the job. That will win customers/users in the end, not price.
This comming from a man know by family and friends as a tightwad.
I realize that it's all the rage to worry about the environment everytime someone sneezes. But......
Why would these things be a threat. I thought the would contain all sorts of valuable metal that would be recycled. I guess my thought was that would make sense for financial reasons (recover some $$$) if not for feel good enviro whacko reasons.
Am I missing something here?
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You guys are trying to mix political terms with science in a very odd way just to stir something up here. Anywhere else on here and this would be modded down.
/. editiors it seems, had a political axe to grind.
Conservative science means running the experiment twice instead of once.
It is not the same as conservative politics, which I think all this was supposed to be about. Unfortunatly the author, and the
So now we are left with a parent post that is not a good report on politics, not a good report on science, and is just not good reporting at all.
Or am I wrong? Is it more important to grind the political axe than to have honor in journalism?
"Would my car perform any better if I had the precise engineering details about how every little part worked?
Yes, you do, and yes, it does."
Oh really? Could you please tell us all how to access that? My car is a 1996 and to this day the only place I can get plugs and MAP sensors for it is Ford. The major aftermarket suppliers have told me that's because Ford hasn't released the data.
Speaking of data, the computers seem to be closed devices as well. I would love to have all of the engineering details about them and the source code. In my case, working on public safety vehicles, I could modify those (especially the body control module) to make the vehicle more safe for the operator to do their job.
You guys need to find another industry for an example. The automotive industry is what Microsoft uses as an EXAMPLE, both in engineering and business practices.
"Sometimes I hate being libertarian..."
Are you aware that you can change freely? You can even become an independent and use your own mind.
There might be twelve-step programs available, I'm not sure. But the point is that if you hate it you have the power to change it.
Peace
With Nukes.