Great idea. We'll get rid of the FCC by selling spectrum to the highest bidder. That means we will either have to pay a whole bunch more taxes so public safety providers can use radios or they will just have to do without.
Imagine calling 911 for a traffic accident. The dispatcher will just phone the ambulance, fire department and law enforcement. Once those people are in the field....I guess they'll just yell if they need help.
And amateur radio? To hell with that. If you have some idea for something new in communications you had better just have a big bank account to buy spectrum or forget it. Yeah, that'll promote the state of the art.
Suppose you did scrape together enough money to buy a frequency to use. I come along and camp on the same channel. Oh yeah, you might take me to court. Ooooohhhh, I'm scared....not. After spending all that money to bid for spectrum you might not have enough to wage a legal fight. I'll play that game.
Yeah, let's get rid of the FCC. It'll be like the wild, wild west. Sounds like fun.
Yeah, you talk tough. The reality is that if they felt you were a threat, didn't have sufficient evidence to prove the threat and know (as they now do) that you would challenge homeland security, they have other ways to deal with you.
Suddenly you find yourself accused of some sex crime. They don't even have to have evidence of an actual crime to start and investigation on you. The process of the investigation itself can usually be enough to destroy your family, your finances, your career. Oh sure, they won't bring charges and nothing ever goes to court. But in the end you're ruined and can't muster the resources necessary to ever challenge them.
Sounds like one of those poorly written novels, but it's a fact. I've seen this happen all too often, it's very common.
Like the terrorists and our other enemies won't be sifting through that network data looking for gold.
Sorry, maybe I read too much bad sci-fi. It just seems to me that this free stuff, while it might be a wonderful thing, could be used against someone pretty easily.
Yeah right. This guy doesn't care any more or less about Linux, Iraq, the USA, shoe leather or cold beer than the rest of us. There is but one difference that sets him apart:
How about the assholes who puncture the transmissions, fuel tanks and oil pans on logging equipment. In the process of "saving the trees" they cause a fairly sizeable hazmat site.
Too bad your average greenie weenie can't think with a brain and reacts with pure emotion instead.
Honestly I don't get this. I'm not being a smartass and I know everyone took this to be some tree hugging statement. But that doesn't make sense. If you read the OP as it was written it seems that the probe is going to contaminate Earth's oceans and then go to work on a moon.
Why? I couldn't find anything in any of the articles I found on the topic that dealt with contamination anywhere.
What is the point/purpose of contamination of our oceans before the probe works on a moon? Please explain, some of us are not rocket scientists and don't fully understand how these things work.
Just because they don't use these things doesn't mean that this incident isn't important to study and learn from. The fact that such a large service went dark for such a long period of time is something of interest to many people, even people who don't use that service.
You have that backward. My call to Dish resulted in a short menu, a 2 minute wait time and then I spoke to a very friendly person who answered my questions honestly and promptly. Oh, and that call was toll free.
I then called Viacom. That was a toll call where I had to listen to a very long recorded Dish bashing message (it's not our fault, we're innocent, trust us) and then I got a live person. The person asked if I was calling about the stuporbowl or Dish. When I answered him that it was Dish he asked me politly to hold and then transfered me to another long message. At the end of that message their system simply hung up on me after insisting that I should have a nice day.
The only reason I made either of these phone calls was because DirecTV isn't offered in my area. Now I'm glad it isn't. The response by Dish on this issue was outstanding. I've been a customer for 5 years and will continue with them.
Better yet, just shitcan the whole printer when the ink dries up. I can go to WalMart and buy a new Lexmark for $5 less than just one of the cartridges for it.....and it comes with two.
I've been doing that for a while now and it works great. Might not be such a good deal if I printed a lot but, for me, the ink dries in the cartridge faster than I can use it all.
So that you know, it's common in the car industry to have seperate lines for "upscale" product. The "upscale" lines such as GMC and Mercury use Chevy and Ford products as baselines. Then they add things like extra insulation for a quieter ride or an additional cup holder for rear passengers or something like that. They also jack the price up slightly.
With the car market they do not charge differently for parts or service. A new fender for my Ford Contour is the same price and part number as one for a Mercury Mystique. The price to install it is the same. This is not true of the printer world.
Also remember that early Ford Explorers were built on the same base as the Ford Ranger. Totally different products with different markets. Ford didn't try to hide that from anyone.
That's for sure. I can tell you in simple terms why the railroad is so efficient to respond and the city just doesn't get it.
That railroad has likely been through many court cases and insurance claims as the result of accidents and haz mat incidents. On the other hand, your city and those who run it havent felt the blunt end of that shaft. As sick as it is, sometimes that's what it takes for these people to get their poop in a group. Worse yet, it sometimes takes several lessons.
First your approach is wrong. Rather than call 911 and ask them to connect you to a specific agency (which they can't do) you should call them and tell them what the emergency is. It is then their problem and they must deal with it. The ball is in their court, everything is recorded and the responsibility (and liability) is theirs. You're done at this point.
Second, the police who have that crossing in their jurisdiction may not be responsible for that crossing. In our state it is the state police that are responsible but within my city it would be handled by the city police by a mutual aid agreement.
I would strongly suggest that you contact your county department of emergency management and make them aware of the problem. They can then round up whatever legal documents are necessary and put the procedures in place.
Also, whatever "police" agency the railroad uses wouldn't be appropriate for this. Your 911 PSAP should be contacting the railroad dispatch agency directly.
Until "our idea of a phone" changes, people expect that a phone can call 911 and that call be routed to the appropriate center. More and more, because people see it on TV, people expect that 911 call to be E911 (ANI + ALI).
And we're legally required to provide 911 service. I couldn't just shut down my 911 center for a holiday. I can't take it offline for maintenance. By law I have to have that service available 24/7/365.
With expectations like that I think it's appropriate to expect that anyone providing a phone service should participate. A VoIP carrier should be expected to provide ANI and ALI information.
There are few things more frustrating to my dispatchers than to receive a 911 call from a phone with no record. When that call comes in and there is no voice on the other end, you don't know jack. You don't know if that person is choking, being held hostage, whatever. You don't know where that phone is or how to get public safety responders to it.
One thing you do know is that the person who made the call expects you to be able to help. And all you can do is sit there and wonder.
As long as 911 is a required service, phone providers will be required to play by the same set of rules. Anything else would be stupid.
You should explain that you made mistakes, didn't do enough research about the employers you worked for and took positions with high risk for being short term. Then you follow that by explaining that you wont be making that mistake again. Mean it.
It wasn't long after the "experts" said not to worry that the first major Outlook exploit happened. Maybe a month.
You're right about ActiveX, I don't argue that. And yes, Microsoft and their close source with slow repairs is a big part of the problem. A bigger part of the problem is the dominance of Windows, it's easy to write one little thing that will screw a vast majority of users.
But to say that most users of other OS don't have to worry about that kind of problem, well I still think that's a pretty sheltered view. Maybe it would be better put to say they don't have to worry about it as much....for now.
"...so I am personally fairly safe, as far as I can be proactively."
Well put.
I'm not sure about browsers allowing file installation. I mean I know that Netscape/Mozilla will let you do that (like when adding themes) but you have to give permission first. As long as the browser source hasn't been tampered with I think it's ok. But it would be interesting to know from....well someone who knows for sure.
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Great idea. We'll get rid of the FCC by selling spectrum to the highest bidder. That means we will either have to pay a whole bunch more taxes so public safety providers can use radios or they will just have to do without.
Imagine calling 911 for a traffic accident. The dispatcher will just phone the ambulance, fire department and law enforcement. Once those people are in the field....I guess they'll just yell if they need help.
And amateur radio? To hell with that. If you have some idea for something new in communications you had better just have a big bank account to buy spectrum or forget it. Yeah, that'll promote the state of the art.
Suppose you did scrape together enough money to buy a frequency to use. I come along and camp on the same channel. Oh yeah, you might take me to court. Ooooohhhh, I'm scared....not. After spending all that money to bid for spectrum you might not have enough to wage a legal fight. I'll play that game.
Yeah, let's get rid of the FCC. It'll be like the wild, wild west. Sounds like fun.
Yeah, you talk tough. The reality is that if they felt you were a threat, didn't have sufficient evidence to prove the threat and know (as they now do) that you would challenge homeland security, they have other ways to deal with you.
Suddenly you find yourself accused of some sex crime. They don't even have to have evidence of an actual crime to start and investigation on you. The process of the investigation itself can usually be enough to destroy your family, your finances, your career. Oh sure, they won't bring charges and nothing ever goes to court. But in the end you're ruined and can't muster the resources necessary to ever challenge them.
Sounds like one of those poorly written novels, but it's a fact. I've seen this happen all too often, it's very common.
I used to be even more paranoid while fueling my propane vehicles until I read your post.
And I was worried about the proposed hydrogen cars of the future.
Thank you for putting my mind at ease.
Like the terrorists and our other enemies won't be sifting through that network data looking for gold.
Sorry, maybe I read too much bad sci-fi. It just seems to me that this free stuff, while it might be a wonderful thing, could be used against someone pretty easily.
Amen!
Amazing. I too had a similar setup and ran into the same problems. The difference is that I gave up the games and deleted Windows.
No regrets either.
Hey everybody, look at me, I want attention.
Yeah right. This guy doesn't care any more or less about Linux, Iraq, the USA, shoe leather or cold beer than the rest of us. There is but one difference that sets him apart:
He's a friggin drama queen!
Christ was from the west?
How about the assholes who puncture the transmissions, fuel tanks and oil pans on logging equipment. In the process of "saving the trees" they cause a fairly sizeable hazmat site.
Too bad your average greenie weenie can't think with a brain and reacts with pure emotion instead.
"After having contaminated Earth's Oceans..."
Honestly I don't get this. I'm not being a smartass and I know everyone took this to be some tree hugging statement. But that doesn't make sense. If you read the OP as it was written it seems that the probe is going to contaminate Earth's oceans and then go to work on a moon.
Why? I couldn't find anything in any of the articles I found on the topic that dealt with contamination anywhere.
What is the point/purpose of contamination of our oceans before the probe works on a moon? Please explain, some of us are not rocket scientists and don't fully understand how these things work.
"...communications cabling of any sort requires a low-voltage contractors license."
In union states. Always check local laws first as this is not always the case but you don't want to piss off the union if it is.
How many nerds use Mars or distant stars?
Just because they don't use these things doesn't mean that this incident isn't important to study and learn from. The fact that such a large service went dark for such a long period of time is something of interest to many people, even people who don't use that service.
Which standard? Earth standard or otherwise?
Besides which, are you now telling me that Microsoft is bothering to comply with standards?
Speak for yourself. I'm a technician, not an engineer.
At least I still have some self respect and dignity.
You have that backward. My call to Dish resulted in a short menu, a 2 minute wait time and then I spoke to a very friendly person who answered my questions honestly and promptly. Oh, and that call was toll free.
I then called Viacom. That was a toll call where I had to listen to a very long recorded Dish bashing message (it's not our fault, we're innocent, trust us) and then I got a live person. The person asked if I was calling about the stuporbowl or Dish. When I answered him that it was Dish he asked me politly to hold and then transfered me to another long message. At the end of that message their system simply hung up on me after insisting that I should have a nice day.
The only reason I made either of these phone calls was because DirecTV isn't offered in my area. Now I'm glad it isn't. The response by Dish on this issue was outstanding. I've been a customer for 5 years and will continue with them.
Better yet, just shitcan the whole printer when the ink dries up. I can go to WalMart and buy a new Lexmark for $5 less than just one of the cartridges for it.....and it comes with two.
I've been doing that for a while now and it works great. Might not be such a good deal if I printed a lot but, for me, the ink dries in the cartridge faster than I can use it all.
The analogy doesn't hold here.
So that you know, it's common in the car industry to have seperate lines for "upscale" product. The "upscale" lines such as GMC and Mercury use Chevy and Ford products as baselines. Then they add things like extra insulation for a quieter ride or an additional cup holder for rear passengers or something like that. They also jack the price up slightly.
With the car market they do not charge differently for parts or service. A new fender for my Ford Contour is the same price and part number as one for a Mercury Mystique. The price to install it is the same. This is not true of the printer world.
Also remember that early Ford Explorers were built on the same base as the Ford Ranger. Totally different products with different markets. Ford didn't try to hide that from anyone.
That's for sure. I can tell you in simple terms why the railroad is so efficient to respond and the city just doesn't get it.
That railroad has likely been through many court cases and insurance claims as the result of accidents and haz mat incidents. On the other hand, your city and those who run it havent felt the blunt end of that shaft. As sick as it is, sometimes that's what it takes for these people to get their poop in a group. Worse yet, it sometimes takes several lessons.
First your approach is wrong. Rather than call 911 and ask them to connect you to a specific agency (which they can't do) you should call them and tell them what the emergency is. It is then their problem and they must deal with it. The ball is in their court, everything is recorded and the responsibility (and liability) is theirs. You're done at this point.
Second, the police who have that crossing in their jurisdiction may not be responsible for that crossing. In our state it is the state police that are responsible but within my city it would be handled by the city police by a mutual aid agreement.
I would strongly suggest that you contact your county department of emergency management and make them aware of the problem. They can then round up whatever legal documents are necessary and put the procedures in place.
Also, whatever "police" agency the railroad uses wouldn't be appropriate for this. Your 911 PSAP should be contacting the railroad dispatch agency directly.
Until "our idea of a phone" changes, people expect that a phone can call 911 and that call be routed to the appropriate center. More and more, because people see it on TV, people expect that 911 call to be E911 (ANI + ALI).
And we're legally required to provide 911 service. I couldn't just shut down my 911 center for a holiday. I can't take it offline for maintenance. By law I have to have that service available 24/7/365.
With expectations like that I think it's appropriate to expect that anyone providing a phone service should participate. A VoIP carrier should be expected to provide ANI and ALI information.
There are few things more frustrating to my dispatchers than to receive a 911 call from a phone with no record. When that call comes in and there is no voice on the other end, you don't know jack. You don't know if that person is choking, being held hostage, whatever. You don't know where that phone is or how to get public safety responders to it.
One thing you do know is that the person who made the call expects you to be able to help. And all you can do is sit there and wonder.
As long as 911 is a required service, phone providers will be required to play by the same set of rules. Anything else would be stupid.
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I wondered how long it would take for someone to ask.
Gotcha. It was us and our oldest boy having dinner. But this was a great test of the pervert factor on
You should explain that you made mistakes, didn't do enough research about the employers you worked for and took positions with high risk for being short term. Then you follow that by explaining that you wont be making that mistake again. Mean it.
It wasn't long after the "experts" said not to worry that the first major Outlook exploit happened. Maybe a month.
You're right about ActiveX, I don't argue that. And yes, Microsoft and their close source with slow repairs is a big part of the problem. A bigger part of the problem is the dominance of Windows, it's easy to write one little thing that will screw a vast majority of users.
But to say that most users of other OS don't have to worry about that kind of problem, well I still think that's a pretty sheltered view. Maybe it would be better put to say they don't have to worry about it as much....for now.
Strange.....but I loved it.
No more strange than us having a threesome for the last three anniversaries though.
"...so I am personally fairly safe, as far as I can be proactively."
Well put.
I'm not sure about browsers allowing file installation. I mean I know that Netscape/Mozilla will let you do that (like when adding themes) but you have to give permission first. As long as the browser source hasn't been tampered with I think it's ok. But it would be interesting to know from....well someone who knows for sure.