Actually, I had a lot of fun going the other way around -- borrowing a friend's Genesis and playing the original Sonic using a 2600 joystick. Very odd cross-generational feeling.
Let me say, I can understand why people are concerned. Defamation suits are hard to win in this country. The burden to meet is much less severe in other countries, including our good buddy GB. If federal (not international, but our very own) precedent is set allowing suits to be held in the jurisdiction of the person bring suit, then the theory goes that we're one step away from extending that to an international scale. Next thing you know, the AP is out $30M cause they called Castro a dictator.
Now, let's throw all of that out the window, because it doesn't apply in the least to the case in question.
If the newspaper in this suit sells even one subscription or newsstand copy in the state the suit is being filed (which it does) then it's established what is called "minimum contacts." If it sells papers in Virginia, it can be sued in Virginia. That the questionable material was seen on the internet as opposed to in black & white is competely irrelevant -- the company is doing business in Virginia. So, while the slippery slope can certainly exist, it doesn't exist here.
It's better because on a larger scale it lets you pick and choose what you want, instead of paying for every track on an album, even if you think half of them suck. It's not about payng $20 for a 20 song CD. Instead, it's about saying, "I only like 5 songs on this CD" and paying $5 for them. Or do you like every single song on the CDs you buy?
Here's a problem with overturning the ruling -- it would mean that ISP's have the powers of police agents. Whereas in the past, ISP's could voluntarily turn over information that it thought were part of an issue, now they're additionally doing so while acting in the place of police. That means that they should also now be subject to the same terms as police with regards to all of the civil rights they are required to observe.
Either ISP's are acting as "private" organizations or they're not. I want them off the fence, one way or the other.
I wouldn't mind targeting. If I want something from my bookstore instead of Amazon, I tell them to get it, wait 10 days, then pick it up. No effect on me whatsoever.
If MSFT is allowing me to pay for the right to run Microsoft on a Mac (and stating Mac explicity as part of the license), then it seems that there is an inherent warranty that Microsoft must make Windows work on my Mac. If they can't, they're the ones in breach of the agreement, and therefore, their licensing gestapo can go take a collective flying dump. When they audit me, I intend to deduct the cost of extra computers to run the extra licenses at $2,000 a pop.
"Hello, Microsoft, our Windows won't work on our Mac."
"Um, Windows doesn't work on Mac"
"But the terms of this license says I get to run Windows on the Mac. So, can I arrange for you to bring a small programming team down here, say a couple of thousand member are so?"
Anime subcluture includes fansubs, interpretation and subtitling of Japanese-only releases. These are products that aren't yet on DVD or VHS, and aren't in Region 1 yet in any form. To that end, if he needed to grab a couple of episodes of Full Metal Panic (damn, that kicks ass) and see what the fuss was about, more power to him. This is a product that is relevant to his research, and literally is unable to be obtained otherwise. (And don't go making illusions to research with illegal drugs -- apples and oranges)
So why don't the artists just start their own record companies then?
They sometimes do when they survive their first contract, or more often their second, since they've gotten enough leverage that they can get the resources to do it. But when they're first getting their foot in the door, they're working for minimum music wage, along with 99% of the signed acts out there.
... where the students already know more than the faculty? I mean, really, if the school loses this suit, what does it really say about the quality of the instructors at the school? Time to shop elsewhere, I guess.
Let me try to understand this folks. Overwriting the EULA is a violation of the DMCA?
This is saying that the contract is part of the software. For this to be true, it would have to be acknowledged that the license was put to the customer AFTER the customer has already run the software, and BEFORE the EULA. So, since the customer had already begun legal use of the software before entering into the EULA, isn't it a bit to late for Microsoft to enforce usage terms? You can't tell the customer that you have the right to change terms unless you tell them that before they start using the product.
Did you pay them for cleaning your windows before you fired them, or did you ask to know what their technique was under the pretense of hiring them, and then use their technique to do it yourself? If the latter, it's not piracy, but it is fraud. Submit yourself for flogging. And don't say that window cleaning is something that falls under common knowledge. After all, you had to learn it from a professional, didn't you?
We did RTFA. Especially the first and last last sentences:
A federal judge said local governments can limit children's access to violent or sexually explicit video games, saying games are not constitutionally protected forms of speech.
and:
St. Louis County modeled its ordinance after one in Indianapolis. That ordinance has been invalidated by a federal appeals court in Chicago.
What no one has mentioned (and maybe I just missed it) is that now, since we have two conflicting federal rulings, the Big Nine Goombas are going to have to decide on an official basis whether video games are free speech. I'd like to be a fly on the wall for that one!
99% of citizens as a whole get lesser charges than what the state could have prosecuted them with. Let's not make that generalization for the rich and famous only.
Just wait. Fighting disease could be considered a 'scare'. But I have yet to see an AIDS of the computer world.
You've never site licensed through Microsoft?
Last spring I did a 10-page paper on the Digital Millenium Copyright Act focusing on DeCSS for Business Admin 201 and got an A for it. Would Ms. Rosen mind if I gave that paper to other people?
It seems to be that this donated money, instead of directly going to computers, should be invested, and be made the "Bill and Melinda Ass-Rammer's Fund" Would be worth it just to make payments to them by check.
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Actually, I had a lot of fun going the other way around -- borrowing a friend's Genesis and playing the original Sonic using a 2600 joystick. Very odd cross-generational feeling.
Now, let's throw all of that out the window, because it doesn't apply in the least to the case in question.
If the newspaper in this suit sells even one subscription or newsstand copy in the state the suit is being filed (which it does) then it's established what is called "minimum contacts." If it sells papers in Virginia, it can be sued in Virginia. That the questionable material was seen on the internet as opposed to in black & white is competely irrelevant -- the company is doing business in Virginia. So, while the slippery slope can certainly exist, it doesn't exist here.
Move along, people, nothing to see here.
Perhaps. But the way the laws are written now, it'll be sometime in the next century before competitor versions can even be legally sold.
It's better because on a larger scale it lets you pick and choose what you want, instead of paying for every track on an album, even if you think half of them suck. It's not about payng $20 for a 20 song CD. Instead, it's about saying, "I only like 5 songs on this CD" and paying $5 for them. Or do you like every single song on the CDs you buy?
Either ISP's are acting as "private" organizations or they're not. I want them off the fence, one way or the other.
I followed one of the alternative suggestions for dealing with this. My acct info reads thusly:
Work/School Address:
TrustE Violations, Inc.
701 First Avenue
Sunnyvale, CA 94809
United States
Phone:
408-349-2000
Nah, wouldn't work. Prior art.
I wouldn't mind targeting. If I want something from my bookstore instead of Amazon, I tell them to get it, wait 10 days, then pick it up. No effect on me whatsoever.
Haven't you heard? Video games aren't speech anymore.
"Hello, Microsoft, our Windows won't work on our Mac."
"Um, Windows doesn't work on Mac"
"But the terms of this license says I get to run Windows on the Mac. So, can I arrange for you to bring a small programming team down here, say a couple of thousand member are so?"
Heh, good thing they can afford it now.
"I hereby find for the plaintiff for $20 billion."
"No problem. Here's the cash you guys gave us last year. Hope you don't mind if we keep the interest."
Anime subcluture includes fansubs, interpretation and subtitling of Japanese-only releases. These are products that aren't yet on DVD or VHS, and aren't in Region 1 yet in any form. To that end, if he needed to grab a couple of episodes of Full Metal Panic (damn, that kicks ass) and see what the fuss was about, more power to him. This is a product that is relevant to his research, and literally is unable to be obtained otherwise. (And don't go making illusions to research with illegal drugs -- apples and oranges)
They sometimes do when they survive their first contract, or more often their second, since they've gotten enough leverage that they can get the resources to do it. But when they're first getting their foot in the door, they're working for minimum music wage, along with 99% of the signed acts out there.
Yeah, but then who'll pay the interest for next month?
... where the students already know more than the faculty? I mean, really, if the school loses this suit, what does it really say about the quality of the instructors at the school? Time to shop elsewhere, I guess.
This is saying that the contract is part of the software. For this to be true, it would have to be acknowledged that the license was put to the customer AFTER the customer has already run the software, and BEFORE the EULA. So, since the customer had already begun legal use of the software before entering into the EULA, isn't it a bit to late for Microsoft to enforce usage terms? You can't tell the customer that you have the right to change terms unless you tell them that before they start using the product.
Did you pay them for cleaning your windows before you fired them, or did you ask to know what their technique was under the pretense of hiring them, and then use their technique to do it yourself? If the latter, it's not piracy, but it is fraud. Submit yourself for flogging. And don't say that window cleaning is something that falls under common knowledge. After all, you had to learn it from a professional, didn't you?
We had Star Wars Special Edition. We had Empire Strikes Back Special Edition. We had Return of the Jedi Special Edition.
We've had hundred of fiction books.
I certainly don't remember Kyle Katarn being a central point of the trilogy.
And, we've just had to deal with rumors of another editing of A New Hope.
Perhaps... perhaps before Mr. Lucas makes this statement, he would be so nice as to decide just which way the story is in the first place.
We did RTFA. Especially the first and last last sentences:
A federal judge said local governments can limit children's access to violent or sexually explicit video games, saying games are not constitutionally protected forms of speech.
and:
St. Louis County modeled its ordinance after one in Indianapolis. That ordinance has been invalidated by a federal appeals court in Chicago.
What no one has mentioned (and maybe I just missed it) is that now, since we have two conflicting federal rulings, the Big Nine Goombas are going to have to decide on an official basis whether video games are free speech. I'd like to be a fly on the wall for that one!
99% of citizens as a whole get lesser charges than what the state could have prosecuted them with. Let's not make that generalization for the rich and famous only.
Just wait. Fighting disease could be considered a 'scare'. But I have yet to see an AIDS of the computer world. You've never site licensed through Microsoft?
"I'd better check the warning system status."
*click* You Have Mail!
"Oh, no, it's Orange! Whatever will I do? I'd better turn my AOL off!" wooouuu...
Next Day
"Time to check the warning e-mail. I hope it says I can turn my e-mail client back on."
Last spring I did a 10-page paper on the Digital Millenium Copyright Act focusing on DeCSS for Business Admin 201 and got an A for it. Would Ms. Rosen mind if I gave that paper to other people?
It seems to be that this donated money, instead of directly going to computers, should be invested, and be made the "Bill and Melinda Ass-Rammer's Fund" Would be worth it just to make payments to them by check.
Works for me:
"Why, no, Mr. Gates. We didn't receive a donated computer from Widgets R Us. Here's the inventory from them:
"No sir, Mr. Gates, we didn't accept any computers, just parts. No violations here."