The biggest surprise for me was that Sun will be selling this software for $49 or $99 per seat. This could be the legitimatization of Linux software. When someone can charge money successfully for a widely used peice of software, it will seem much more legit to many businesses and consumers, expecially if the quality is there too. I was waiting to dl it for free, but now I will be purchasing it when it's available and telling some of my contacts about it.
Here's keeping our fingers crossed that this is successfull. Of course, there are plenty of free/free alternatives for those who choose them.
clustering can be accomplished in a couple of ways under windows.
1 scenario is to use the built in clustering technology in windows advanced server/datacenter. You must license each machine in the cluster, and it's not meant for distributing computing, just to provide a hot standby. Academic pricing is pretty aggressive, but the clustering only works so-so in the environments I have seen it deployed in.
the second scenario requires that you still buy windows server licenses (but not datacenter, which is much more expensive than plain server), and then use a third party clustering app like veritas cluster server, or Stonesoft's products.
I still don't think you're getting the same type of functionality as you get from beowolf, but these might be alternatives. The original poster didn't describe what kinds of apps he wants to eventually use.
umm, there is a limit to what you can contribute. It is increasing every year over the next five (thank God), but for 2001 it was capped at 10,500 per year or 15% of your income, whichever is less.
uncle sugar doesn't want his subjects to save too much money and be too independant of him...
Here's what I don't understand... How is she jobhunting without it? I mean, for the $10-20 a month you might save over dialup (assuming she still will pay for dialup), she now has a much harder time sending electronic faxes, networking with people, scanning job boards, serving a home page, staying current with your industry (aka reading slashdot), etc. Sure, she can still do all of these "jobhunting" activities without broadband, but it will be much more difficult.
I really wonder if she's an IT consultant or some other kind.
I hate windows, and if you stick to just MS's products, the points you make are valid. to address your points:
a: yep, you're right
b: there are one to many clustering available for NT. (Veritas Cluster Server for Windows). You are correct the MS Cluster is a 1 to 1 technology though.
c: you have a good point here, but they can run them in a "failover state". But you're right, everyday you should not run multiple services on a single win32 box if possible to avoid.
Just a note on "c", you imply that it would be OK to run a web/file/print server in *nix, but, while the stability and scalability is there, you are opening up HUGE security holes to fun any services on a firewall or web server besides those functions. (And they shouldn't be combined either.)
You may have been discussing an internal webserver, in which case you'd be OK if you trusted your users (just remember that 75% of attacks are from inside a company). Still, best practices dictate seperating these functions for security reasons. (You could run them on different system partitions if you wanted to though.)
(disclaimer, No I don't work for veritas either, I just have a lot of exposure to veritas, sun, and security stuff.)
Perhaps you're using the fabled "cache crucial dll's to memory" feature. If this exists, I'm tempted to upgrade just to try it.
since you're a developer, I'm guessing you have loads of memory (512) in your machine. That would make it very fast as it's memory handling is supposed to be much better than W9x.
How come there are so many negative USER reviews? I loved Civ, Civ2, CivNET. (Never got in to CTP by Activision).
On Gamespot, the "professionals" gave it a 9.2, but the average user review is like 5.
I originally was going to run out and buy the game this weekend, but I've seen so many negative reviews that I think I'll wait now.
I do have two questions... Can you still cheat like in Civ 2 from the menu bar (add gold, advances, etc)? Have they made it less tedious to manage your civilization as it gets bigger? (I found that once you had 15-20 cities and got into an industrial age, you produce items faster than you can manage them and also have more unrest than you can handle half the time.)
Any ideas/comments on this?
How will this game seem for people who skipped SM:AC and CTP? (I am going straight from Civ2 to Civ 3 when I buy it.)
Yeah, yeah... my fault for using them as my portal, but they've completely changed it from a clean source of information to something that looks like it came out of a windows 9x setup screen. Go look (at your own risk of course). Go look for yourself... MSN Home page. I am definately looking for a new portal. First they shoved me into passport (because cookies weren't good enough to keep track of what I want on my homepage??) and now they've futzed it up again.
sorry about the rant, but this just pushed me farther from MS. Maybe I'll get that Mandrake distro configured this weekend too...
In Idaho, the AG (attorney general) has a list that you can be on for about $10 for 2 years. I have friends on it, and they report a huge, huge drop in calls. If you get called by your telco for *their* privacy screening service, tell them "no thanks, since you guys are usually the ones that sell my number out to the telemarketers anyway, I'd rather not pay you more money". Seems to be effective.
I'm a pushover though, I'm always polite to telemarketers, but I tell them I'm not interested. I'm going to go downtown and get on that AG list ASAP.
I'd like to see these come down a few bucks and also it would be really nice to be able to xfer the recorded programs to a PC so that we could convert to divx;) or save to VCD's or whatever.
I want this feature for archival of cancelled or rarely aired shows (Tales of the Gold Monkey, Family Guy, Starblazers, etc.)
check out the archos www.archos.com I am about this close to buying one for $230 and having 6GB of portable MP3's with me. Plus I'll be able to cart regular data around between sites (work, home, girlfriend's, etc) They ahve a 20Gb model as well. I'm thinking of a 20Gb and an FM transmitter to play when I get in to different cars (I don't use headphones while driving.)
Your efforts are appreciated. Thank you to the people of Australia for their help on that issue (fires).
But, was the namecalling and inflammatory tone of the first poster necessary? I said "in my recollection" and tried to be deferential while expressing what my perception was.
During wars, I know that we have fought alongside many of our friends and allies worldwide. To my recollection however, Vietnam wasn't "our war". We came in to bail out the French who we had a pact with.
Did we mismanage the war? Probably. Should we have been there? Perhaps not, but to not go in would have let down our ally (France).
Perhaps my perceptions are incorrect or I am mis-recalling things, but I'm not trying to start an argument here, my original post was just stating that we get a lot of abuse and very little kudos.
I think part of that is formed because our own media within the US likes to whip us and tell us how bad we are too, so we don't really here positive messages about ourselves.
I, like most Americans, have a very positive view of Australians and view you as brothers to us. I can only hope that you feel the same way to us.
Being a US citizen, i can say I definately appreciate these comments. Even to this day, I can only think of one time in my recollection that a foreign country offered help for an internal american issue was when the russians offered use of firefighting planes during the big fires out west last year.
I hate being hated all the time. I don't think we do good all the time and I think we're misguided at times, but I'm tired of being villanized all the time too.
Many of my enterprise customers have standardized on one or two OS's and because of management costs would like to train their people on only one or two OS's. Since they have Solaris/SPARC running their Oracle engines and windows 2000 for mail/file/print services, they have a choice of Windows 2000 or Solaris everytime they need to deploy a small server for something like Mail transfer or DNS or ??? Solaris x86 (being free) is something that they can run on a dirt cheap old machine that is too slow for windows and still leverage their knowledge of existing platforms to manage.
I think this is more common in the enterprise than people think.
This isn't really a problem. They just massively oversubscribe the line. Also, good ISP's will build cache engines in their premises to save on outbound connection fees. They also host mail locally, so if they are big enough, then a fair portion of mail is between their own users, which saves even more on outbound connection.
Agreed, but what we really need is better computer-human I/O It's just too hard to tote my 19" monitor and IBM click keyboard around with me. But it's nice that the PC is so much lighter!
Actually, this is pretty cool, but keyboards and displays are still a big issue.
Agreed, if you want to help this publicity, read the article and vote it a "7". Then it is more likely to appear on the MSN front page and other places that get loads of visitors a day. And since Newsweek is a general news magazine, not computer related, this is liable to have more impact than someone reading something on ZDNET or gosh forbid... slashdot.
I have an old slack distro that I believe has kernel 1.3 (from 94-95 timeframe). I can probably find a way to post it to ftp. email me at o-u-t-@-r-m-c-i-.-n-e-t and we can arrange a way to get the data to you. Do you have a site that I could upload the.iso files to? Or perhaps I can host them. If there is enough interest from the community, I'd be willing to engineer a way to post some of these, but it's only on DSL...
Slashdot Mirror
The biggest surprise for me was that Sun will be selling this software for $49 or $99 per seat. This could be the legitimatization of Linux software. When someone can charge money successfully for a widely used peice of software, it will seem much more legit to many businesses and consumers, expecially if the quality is there too. I was waiting to dl it for free, but now I will be purchasing it when it's available and telling some of my contacts about it.
Here's keeping our fingers crossed that this is successfull. Of course, there are plenty of free/free alternatives for those who choose them.
Or even Thorium, which is as common in the earth's crust as lead. lots cheaper than U and Pu
clustering can be accomplished in a couple of ways under windows.
1 scenario is to use the built in clustering technology in windows advanced server/datacenter. You must license each machine in the cluster, and it's not meant for distributing computing, just to provide a hot standby. Academic pricing is pretty aggressive, but the clustering only works so-so in the environments I have seen it deployed in.
the second scenario requires that you still buy windows server licenses (but not datacenter, which is much more expensive than plain server), and then use a third party clustering app like veritas cluster server, or Stonesoft's products.
I still don't think you're getting the same type of functionality as you get from beowolf, but these might be alternatives. The original poster didn't describe what kinds of apps he wants to eventually use.
Just a note, Slashdot did run a story I believe on Monday regarding the Google appliance.
Hope this helps.
D
umm, there is a limit to what you can contribute. It is increasing every year over the next five (thank God), but for 2001 it was capped at 10,500 per year or 15% of your income, whichever is less.
uncle sugar doesn't want his subjects to save too much money and be too independant of him...
yes, but no Grand theft auto 3, very, very important...
More importantly, if xbox is going after us old guys (late 20's), they need something sensational and some sparkle.
Here's what I don't understand... How is she jobhunting without it? I mean, for the $10-20 a month you might save over dialup (assuming she still will pay for dialup), she now has a much harder time sending electronic faxes, networking with people, scanning job boards, serving a home page, staying current with your industry (aka reading slashdot), etc. Sure, she can still do all of these "jobhunting" activities without broadband, but it will be much more difficult.
I really wonder if she's an IT consultant or some other kind.
I hate windows, and if you stick to just MS's products, the points you make are valid. to address your points:
a: yep, you're right
b: there are one to many clustering available for NT. (Veritas Cluster Server for Windows). You are correct the MS Cluster is a 1 to 1 technology though.
c: you have a good point here, but they can run them in a "failover state". But you're right, everyday you should not run multiple services on a single win32 box if possible to avoid.
Just a note on "c", you imply that it would be OK to run a web/file/print server in *nix, but, while the stability and scalability is there, you are opening up HUGE security holes to fun any services on a firewall or web server besides those functions. (And they shouldn't be combined either.)
You may have been discussing an internal webserver, in which case you'd be OK if you trusted your users (just remember that 75% of attacks are from inside a company). Still, best practices dictate seperating these functions for security reasons. (You could run them on different system partitions if you wanted to though.)
(disclaimer, No I don't work for veritas either, I just have a lot of exposure to veritas, sun, and security stuff.)
Perhaps you're using the fabled "cache crucial dll's to memory" feature. If this exists, I'm tempted to upgrade just to try it.
since you're a developer, I'm guessing you have loads of memory (512) in your machine. That would make it very fast as it's memory handling is supposed to be much better than W9x.
Just a thought.
How come there are so many negative USER reviews? I loved Civ, Civ2, CivNET. (Never got in to CTP by Activision).
On Gamespot, the "professionals" gave it a 9.2, but the average user review is like 5.
I originally was going to run out and buy the game this weekend, but I've seen so many negative reviews that I think I'll wait now.
I do have two questions... Can you still cheat like in Civ 2 from the menu bar (add gold, advances, etc)? Have they made it less tedious to manage your civilization as it gets bigger? (I found that once you had 15-20 cities and got into an industrial age, you produce items faster than you can manage them and also have more unrest than you can handle half the time.)
Any ideas/comments on this?
How will this game seem for people who skipped SM:AC and CTP? (I am going straight from Civ2 to Civ 3 when I buy it.)
Yes, they called it CivNET and it was the multiplayer version of Civ 2
xcopy with some options is the command you're looking for.
you can also use 4dos which made life a lot better...
Yeah, yeah... my fault for using them as my portal, but they've completely changed it from a clean source of information to something that looks like it came out of a windows 9x setup screen. Go look (at your own risk of course). Go look for yourself... MSN Home page. I am definately looking for a new portal. First they shoved me into passport (because cookies weren't good enough to keep track of what I want on my homepage??) and now they've futzed it up again.
sorry about the rant, but this just pushed me farther from MS. Maybe I'll get that Mandrake distro configured this weekend too...
In Idaho, the AG (attorney general) has a list that you can be on for about $10 for 2 years. I have friends on it, and they report a huge, huge drop in calls. If you get called by your telco for *their* privacy screening service, tell them "no thanks, since you guys are usually the ones that sell my number out to the telemarketers anyway, I'd rather not pay you more money". Seems to be effective.
I'm a pushover though, I'm always polite to telemarketers, but I tell them I'm not interested. I'm going to go downtown and get on that AG list ASAP.
I'd like to see these come down a few bucks and also it would be really nice to be able to xfer the recorded programs to a PC so that we could convert to divx ;) or save to VCD's or whatever.
I want this feature for archival of cancelled or rarely aired shows (Tales of the Gold Monkey, Family Guy, Starblazers, etc.)
check out the archos www.archos.com I am about this close to buying one for $230 and having 6GB of portable MP3's with me. Plus I'll be able to cart regular data around between sites (work, home, girlfriend's, etc) They ahve a 20Gb model as well. I'm thinking of a 20Gb and an FM transmitter to play when I get in to different cars (I don't use headphones while driving.)
Just another thought.
Your efforts are appreciated. Thank you to the people of Australia for their help on that issue (fires).
But, was the namecalling and inflammatory tone of the first poster necessary? I said "in my recollection" and tried to be deferential while expressing what my perception was.
During wars, I know that we have fought alongside many of our friends and allies worldwide. To my recollection however, Vietnam wasn't "our war". We came in to bail out the French who we had a pact with.
Did we mismanage the war? Probably. Should we have been there? Perhaps not, but to not go in would have let down our ally (France).
Perhaps my perceptions are incorrect or I am mis-recalling things, but I'm not trying to start an argument here, my original post was just stating that we get a lot of abuse and very little kudos.
I think part of that is formed because our own media within the US likes to whip us and tell us how bad we are too, so we don't really here positive messages about ourselves.
I, like most Americans, have a very positive view of Australians and view you as brothers to us. I can only hope that you feel the same way to us.
Best regards...
Being a US citizen, i can say I definately appreciate these comments. Even to this day, I can only think of one time in my recollection that a foreign country offered help for an internal american issue was when the russians offered use of firefighting planes during the big fires out west last year.
I hate being hated all the time. I don't think we do good all the time and I think we're misguided at times, but I'm tired of being villanized all the time too.
Many of my enterprise customers have standardized on one or two OS's and because of management costs would like to train their people on only one or two OS's. Since they have Solaris/SPARC running their Oracle engines and windows 2000 for mail/file/print services, they have a choice of Windows 2000 or Solaris everytime they need to deploy a small server for something like Mail transfer or DNS or ??? Solaris x86 (being free) is something that they can run on a dirt cheap old machine that is too slow for windows and still leverage their knowledge of existing platforms to manage.
I think this is more common in the enterprise than people think.
Here's the link to Google's cache, the Onion seems to be down right now.
g :w ww.theonion.com/onion3618/kid_rock_starves.html+th e+onion+"kid+rock"&hl=en
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:1ZpfqkNmOJ
Enjoy..
D
Actually, newspapers in the US write at the 6th grade level (aged 11 for the rest of the world) to garner the most readers.
Sad but true...
This isn't really a problem. They just massively oversubscribe the line. Also, good ISP's will build cache engines in their premises to save on outbound connection fees. They also host mail locally, so if they are big enough, then a fair portion of mail is between their own users, which saves even more on outbound connection.
Just some of what I've seen...
Peace, out.
Agreed, but what we really need is better computer-human I/O It's just too hard to tote my 19" monitor and IBM click keyboard around with me. But it's nice that the PC is so much lighter!
Actually, this is pretty cool, but keyboards and displays are still a big issue.
Agreed, if you want to help this publicity, read the article and vote it a "7". Then it is more likely to appear on the MSN front page and other places that get loads of visitors a day. And since Newsweek is a general news magazine, not computer related, this is liable to have more impact than someone reading something on ZDNET or gosh forbid... slashdot.
I have an old slack distro that I believe has kernel 1.3 (from 94-95 timeframe). I can probably find a way to post it to ftp. email me at o-u-t-@-r-m-c-i-.-n-e-t and we can arrange a way to get the data to you. Do you have a site that I could upload the .iso files to? Or perhaps I can host them. If there is enough interest from the community, I'd be willing to engineer a way to post some of these, but it's only on DSL...