No; not everyone who gets an engineering degree. But a P.Eng, which requires the B.Eng or B.A.Sc plus experience, plus membership in the association, is very clearly a professional in the same sense of the word.
In BC, at least, APEG is regulated by statute (the Engineers and Geoscientists Act, RSBC 1996, 116). I imagine it is the same in the other states and provinces.
-misao (who, while an engineer, is not a professional engineer...)
Well, I'll chime back in; perhaps the original poster didn't think it was funny, and maybe he was unaware of the x86 version's history, and associated it with Solaris for SPARC.
On the other hand (and I'll admit I probably should have said _this_ in the original explanation) it's most likely what the moderators found funny.
Personally, I liked Solaris/x86 - see my comments later in the thread - and thought it was worth considerably more than what they charged for it:)
> Well, you're right about falling in love with > mass transit when travelling abroad, but other > than Japan, who has gone the monorail route?
Well, it's not a monorail, but it is elevated light transit, and since you appear to be from Portland, I'm surprised you're not aware of Vancouver's Skytrain. (ok, ok, so it's Vancouver BC... still, it's not too far away.)
Works quite well, although it is expensive to build. But it's out of the way, doesn't hold up traffic, and is reasonably fast.
We also have heavy commuter rail, similar to the Sounder (I think ours was used as a proto for Seattle's; I've seen a couple of the Sounder cars up here) on CN line between Mission and the downtown peninsula. Interestingly enough, when Skytrain enters the downtown core it returns underground, using a double-decked former rail tunnel, which essentially (and probably used to) meets the commuter trains at Waterfront.
It's funny; in Vancouver, all there is between a Skytrain platform, and the track, is a painted yellow line; I believe this is the case for all 31 stations, although I haven't seen some of the newer ones as they're not open yet:)
No guardrails, no glass enclosures, just a yellow line.
We don't seem to have much trouble with it, though. I guess if you really want to step out onto the track, you'll figure out a way, and if you're sensible enough not to, you just won't.
Well, I learned Unix on a Sun 3/60 (back when SunOS was BSD....); and I remember installing Solaris on an x86 with one of the 2.x (2.4, I think) series, before they started increasing version numbers with alarming rapidity.
Of course, "Solaris 2" was a misnomer to begin with...:) Regardless, I _still_ prefer dealing with a Sun machine than with Linux; it may not support as many esoteric gadgets, but it just _feels_ cleaner for some reason:)
I don't know about Longhorn, but Whistler is definitly _not_ in WA; it's in BC, about an hour and a half north of Vancouver (or more, depending on how many campers you wind up following once you leave the freeway.)
> If you watch expressvu you can (almost) see them switching from American to Canadian > programming on the "american" stations, like FOX. When Global (for example) repeats a FOX TV > show, Bell repeats the Global repeat over the FOX channel. This way you get "Canadian > content" and "Canadian advertising" on the FOX channel.
Which is extremely annoying, since you can never tell if the advertisments are relevant or not (or even what currency they're in).
As far as I'm aware this is mandated by the CRTC (our FCC)... maybe it's time to write a letter of complaint.
I don't think I'll ever forget that... I remember spending hours trying to get the wording right. It's funny.. sometimes the parser was very liberal with what it would take; other times, you had to be _so_ specific...
and, to quote the webpage (http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~kgb/cosspec/):
> Suggestions for the name are welcome. As long as it is not 'beige'!
Hmmmm.....
They also mention that it should be difficult to tell the color from white on a white background (as it is on the webpage above, not on black as referenced in the article). However, I can't say I found it difficult at all. It's quite a yellowish off-white, and easy to see.
After some looking into this, it's neither a typo, nor an oversight. (confused yet?)
The chart details license exceptions, to get around the Export Administration Regulations.
None of the relevant restrictions (and there's quite a few) apply to Canada (they're all covered by "all countries, except Canada" type phrasing in the EARs), so there's no point including it in the list, since no exception is needed (whether carte blanche like for the Tier 1 countries such as the UK, or otherwise).
If I remeber it correctly ARPA paid BBN Corporation in Cambridge, MA to put and IP stack on BSD, which in turn it gave back to Berkley so that it could become "public domain". After that Berkley re-wrote the IP stack and added a plethora of tools (I think Bill Joy tries to take all the credit for the IP-stack re-write. ..another history re-write).
This is actually described in one of the follow-on stories on Salon (third page); definitely an interesting read.
> A single POTS line ought to run closer to $15/month or so (excluding long distance).
> Analog cable should be closer to $25 (excluding pay-TV channels). $50 for high-speed access
> sounds about the going rate, as long as you're getting a static IP with it. (Some.ca posters
> would probably disagree with that last assessment, though.)
Well, I'll disagree with it:)
$15 for the POTS line is a little much; the local RBOC (actually a GTE descendant - and that should tell you where I am...) is more like $20; the cable is probably closer to $30-35 and the highspeed (cable modem, static IP only because I "complained" that DHCP "wasn't working"... bad girl... ) is $40.
All of the above, of course, in $CDN, so at 0.63 to the dollar, it's a deal.
I cross-stitch; lighting is extremely important - it lets you see your colors, how the floss lies, etc. Anyways, a friend of mine was looking at Ott-Lites, which are ~$40 full-spectrum compact flourescent bulbs.
This seemed a little steep to me; so I picked up a package of the GE Reveal bulbs and changed my front room bulbs (where I do most of my stitching). Even at $2.50 a package, I won't go back. Simply amazing difference.
*spoilers below, for the books if not the movie. you have been warned*
Yes. Basically, it was "if you want to marry my daughter, you'd better be the king."
Remember, too, that Elrond is Luthien's great-grandson (no books. I think that's the right number of greats), so there's a bit of family history to this, too. (That particular family is, of course, somewhat unique in several ways).
And Elrond _has_ seen a "family weakness" (as you put it) to Aragorn; remember,he was _there_ when the Ring was taken from Sauron in the first place, and certainly knew what it was (he had Vilya, even then.)
I was always impressed by Elrond's ability to spurn the One. Tolkien has commented (see his collected letters) about what would have happened had he taken it - unlike Frodo, he actually could make use of it. (although you have to have read the Sil to realise exactly what _Galadriel_'s line when she rejects the Ring means). Maybe there's family history to this, too; recall his father's voyage. For those of you without the Sil, read (you know you skipped it!) Bilbo's poem in Imladris.
Someone neither a) knows how to do math or b) checks exchange rates.
Starting with b) the exchange rate is 0.6351. But that's just being nit-picky. More important is a); even at 0.62, the twonie, or _$2_ is in fact $1.24, and not $0.62.
I'm not going to bother decrying the lousy exchange rate. That's for another day... (/she remembers when it was 0.89, and was born when it was around 1.00)
Well, it's a bit of an insight; although it leads me to the same conclusion as you.
If Everquest represents storytelling in games these days, I worry. I suppose it could be argued that human interaction in the MMORPGs replaces storytelling to some degree, and I suppose in some ways that's true.
But I live my life in the real world and have to deal with human interaction there. We read books to escape; we watch films to escape. You can see where this is going, I'm sure - why do I want to play a game that basically involves hanging around with a bunch of people I'll never really know?
Maybe I'm weird. I definitely feel in the minority these days.
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No; not everyone who gets an engineering degree. But a P.Eng, which requires the B.Eng or B.A.Sc plus experience, plus membership in the association, is very clearly a professional in the same sense of the word.
In BC, at least, APEG is regulated by statute (the Engineers and Geoscientists Act, RSBC 1996, 116). I imagine it is the same in the other states and provinces.
-misao (who, while an engineer, is not a professional engineer...)
Well, I'll chime back in; perhaps the original poster didn't think it was funny, and maybe he was unaware of the x86 version's history, and associated it with Solaris for SPARC.
:)
:)
On the other hand (and I'll admit I probably should have said _this_ in the original explanation) it's most likely what the moderators found funny.
Personally, I liked Solaris/x86 - see my comments later in the thread - and thought it was worth considerably more than what they charged for it
-mis, sufficiently-admonished-explainer-girl
> Well, you're right about falling in love with
> mass transit when travelling abroad, but other
> than Japan, who has gone the monorail route?
Well, it's not a monorail, but it is elevated light transit, and since you appear to be from Portland, I'm surprised you're not aware of Vancouver's Skytrain. (ok, ok, so it's Vancouver BC... still, it's not too far away.)
Works quite well, although it is expensive to build. But it's out of the way, doesn't hold up traffic, and is reasonably fast.
We also have heavy commuter rail, similar to the Sounder (I think ours was used as a proto for Seattle's; I've seen a couple of the Sounder cars up here) on CN line between Mission and the downtown peninsula. Interestingly enough, when Skytrain enters the downtown core it returns underground, using a double-decked former rail tunnel, which essentially (and probably used to) meets the commuter trains at Waterfront.
-mis
It's funny; in Vancouver, all there is between a Skytrain platform, and the track, is a painted yellow line; I believe this is the case for all 31 stations, although I haven't seen some of the newer ones as they're not open yet :)
No guardrails, no glass enclosures, just a yellow line.
We don't seem to have much trouble with it, though. I guess if you really want to step out onto the track, you'll figure out a way, and if you're sensible enough not to, you just won't.
-misao, bitter-because-they're-taking-forever girl.
Well, I learned Unix on a Sun 3/60 (back when SunOS was BSD....); and I remember installing Solaris on an x86 with one of the 2.x (2.4, I think) series, before they started increasing version numbers with alarming rapidity.
:) Regardless, I _still_ prefer dealing with a Sun machine than with Linux; it may not support as many esoteric gadgets, but it just _feels_ cleaner for some reason :)
Of course, "Solaris 2" was a misnomer to begin with...
-misao
> (I don't know how the original post got a "funny" rating??)
:) )
Because what he was trying to say was, "It wasn't worth $0". It's a bit of wry humor; whether it's true or not I'll leave up to you to decide.
-misao (explainer-girl
I don't know about Longhorn, but Whistler is definitly _not_ in WA; it's in BC, about an hour and a half north of Vancouver (or more, depending on how many campers you wind up following once you leave the freeway.)
:)
On the other hand, it is fairly close.
-mis
> If you watch expressvu you can (almost) see them switching from American to Canadian
> programming on the "american" stations, like FOX. When Global (for example) repeats a FOX TV
> show, Bell repeats the Global repeat over the FOX channel. This way you get "Canadian
> content" and "Canadian advertising" on the FOX channel.
Which is extremely annoying, since you can never tell if the advertisments are relevant or not (or even what currency they're in).
As far as I'm aware this is mandated by the CRTC (our FCC)... maybe it's time to write a letter of complaint.
-misao
*sigh*
"ask marie for help with hotel operation"
I don't think I'll ever forget that... I remember spending hours trying to get the wording right. It's funny.. sometimes the parser was very liberal with what it would take; other times, you had to be _so_ specific...
-mis
> The other color was much nicer than this beige.
:
and, to quote the webpage (http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~kgb/cosspec/)
> Suggestions for the name are welcome. As long as it is not 'beige'!
Hmmmm.....
They also mention that it should be difficult to tell the color from white on a white background (as it is on the webpage above, not on black as referenced in the article). However, I can't say I found it difficult at all. It's quite a yellowish off-white, and easy to see.
-misao
Funny coincidence, that.
Felt kind of nostalgic and was just watching Nadia again this afternoon.
mis
After some looking into this, it's neither a typo, nor an oversight. (confused yet?)
The chart details license exceptions, to get around the Export Administration Regulations.
None of the relevant restrictions (and there's quite a few) apply to Canada (they're all covered by "all countries, except Canada" type phrasing in the EARs), so there's no point including it in the list, since no exception is needed (whether carte blanche like for the Tier 1 countries such as the UK, or otherwise).
-mis
mis
Funny thing is, Canada doesn't appear on either of the lists.
Of course, the way the EARs read, even when it states "to all countries" there's always an "including Canada" or "excluding Canada" appended.
Oh well. At least we can still _pretend_ to be sovereign. *sigh*
-mis
> A single POTS line ought to run closer to $15/month or so (excluding long distance). .ca posters
:)
> Analog cable should be closer to $25 (excluding pay-TV channels). $50 for high-speed access
> sounds about the going rate, as long as you're getting a static IP with it. (Some
> would probably disagree with that last assessment, though.)
Well, I'll disagree with it
$15 for the POTS line is a little much; the local RBOC (actually a GTE descendant - and that should tell you where I am...) is more like $20; the cable is probably closer to $30-35 and the highspeed (cable modem, static IP only because I "complained" that DHCP "wasn't working"... bad girl... ) is $40.
All of the above, of course, in $CDN, so at 0.63 to the dollar, it's a deal.
-mis
Definitely amazed.
I cross-stitch; lighting is extremely important - it lets you see your colors, how the floss lies, etc. Anyways, a friend of mine was looking at Ott-Lites, which are ~$40 full-spectrum compact flourescent bulbs.
This seemed a little steep to me; so I picked up a package of the GE Reveal bulbs and changed my front room bulbs (where I do most of my stitching). Even at $2.50 a package, I won't go back. Simply amazing difference.
-misao
Send in the clones.....
-mis
*spoilers below, for the books if not the movie. you have been warned*
Yes. Basically, it was "if you want to marry my daughter, you'd better be the king."
Remember, too, that Elrond is Luthien's great-grandson (no books. I think that's the right number of greats), so there's a bit of family history to this, too. (That particular family is, of course, somewhat unique in several ways).
And Elrond _has_ seen a "family weakness" (as you put it) to Aragorn; remember,he was _there_ when the Ring was taken from Sauron in the first place, and certainly knew what it was (he had Vilya, even then.)
I was always impressed by Elrond's ability to spurn the One. Tolkien has commented (see his collected letters) about what would have happened had he taken it - unlike Frodo, he actually could make use of it. (although you have to have read the Sil to realise exactly what _Galadriel_'s line when she rejects the Ring means). Maybe there's family history to this, too; recall his father's voyage. For those of you without the Sil, read (you know you skipped it!) Bilbo's poem in Imladris.
Okay, enough pondering. Back to work...
-mis
Someone neither a) knows how to do math or b) checks exchange rates.
Starting with b) the exchange rate is 0.6351. But that's just being nit-picky. More important is a); even at 0.62, the twonie, or _$2_ is in fact $1.24, and not $0.62.
I'm not going to bother decrying the lousy exchange rate. That's for another day... (/she remembers when it was 0.89, and was born when it was around 1.00)
-mis
> - Downtime required to meditate sucks
ahhhh... C2.....
-mis
Of course, I pay for it, just like I pay for the newspaper, or the cable bill.
-misao
Well, it's a bit of an insight; although it leads me to the same conclusion as you.
If Everquest represents storytelling in games these days, I worry. I suppose it could be argued that human interaction in the MMORPGs replaces storytelling to some degree, and I suppose in some ways that's true.
But I live my life in the real world and have to deal with human interaction there. We read books to escape; we watch films to escape. You can see where this is going, I'm sure - why do I want to play a game that basically involves hanging around with a bunch of people I'll never really know?
Maybe I'm weird. I definitely feel in the minority these days.
-mis
Hmmm.. Well, when I was an undergrad living on campus we were charged C$10 for Ethernet setup and C$2/month I guess it's been a while.
Better than the C$40 for cable I pay now, anyways. And the service was better (since nobody, back in 94, was using it...)
-misao
In Canada? Twenty-five cents.
-misao
Which makes sense, really.. for a short distance connection the amount of time spent in the fiber is insignificant; switching time dominates.
For a longer distance connection, of course, things change.
-misao