GAAAAAAAAAAAH
I can't believe, what a moron.
Just because some people are "anti-american" (just because they CRITICIZE the things they don't like instead of just saying "Hey, it's USA, I love USA, look, I have no brain, I can't think by myself!"
Linux was created by a non-american guy. OOoooooh, I guess Linus Torvalds made a backdoor to take control of USA satellites and missiles, because he is "anti-american".
Let's face it. That argument was REALLY stupid. ------------------------------------------------
You think Bill Gates is evil?
Okay, you tell someone: "hey, could you please send me a PDF?". There are SO MANY stupid people in this world that simply DON'T EVEN KNOW what a PDF is, they don't know how to save a file as RTF, and they don't know anything but Word.
Don't take me wrong, I like Linux, I would love to use just Linux. But I have some problems: My printer doesn't work with Linux (Lexmark 3200, there is a driver but it just plain sucks) for example.
There's an important Research Institute in Brazil that DOESN'T ACCEPT NON-WORD DOCUMENTS. If you can't use Word, you can't apply to a job or a research project there. MANY companies don't accept anything but Word.
Maybe you are lucky enough to work M$-free. Most of the people can't, because there's that stupid boss that doesn't want to save a file as RTF, PDF. I'm not a Windows fan, I hate to deal with Windows (even W2k!).
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
In the real world almost everyone uses Microsoft Office. Now, let's suppose you only use Linux, and you work for a big company, where most of the workers send you Word Documents, PowerPoint presentations, etc. StarOffice sometimes gets lost and can't open it correctly (sometimes it doesn't even open:)).
So, if you NEED to open EVERY document or presentation and you CAN'T just say: "Hey, I don't use Windows, I can't read this", you WILL have to use Office. That's very sad, and I really hate it. But hey, it won't change so fast. MIcrosoft doesn't want any non-MS standard, they want to IMPOSE their standards. They don't even THINK about using some standardized format.
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
First, I think Microsoft is going to use SOAP, not XML-RPC. Then, Sun may use a third protocol, IBM a modified version of SOAP or XML-RPC, and what would be so great about it? The super-ultra-mega XML platform-independence hype would be nonsense.
Second, if each DBMS (for example) returns the XML its own way, I would have to parse each XML stream differently, wouldn't I? If so, what would be so great about using XML?
Third, I think there're too many W3C "recommendations" for XML. They always want to build something new to do something different. XQuery, XPath, XSalad, Xburger, damn, tomorrow they may build something like DanceML, to make toasters dance:) That's the problem. If XML is supposed to be simple, why make it complicated? XML has its potential, but I think there's VERY VERY VERY MUCH hype. Let's get real, it's not the solution for every problem, it won't solve NP-Complete problems.
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
What about people that just can't deny using Microsoft products all the time because they need the money? MANY people live that way. For example, I work as an ASP developer.
Well, I always bash Microsoft, but hey, I do my job. I don't have many choices, I can't just quit because here where I live (Curitiba - Brazil), I don't see many companies using Linux (in fact, I don't see many companies at all:)). And, if they use, they want experienced workers (well, I have some experience, but not oficially, just reading tutorials and testing new stuff for fun).
So, my only choice is to agree to use the "reliable", "stable", "*able", "affordable", M$ products.
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
I didn't see anything about "Windows XP" in the Kernel summit.
So, it would be COMPLETELY OFFTOPIC.
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
I have bought a Diamond Stealth S540 recently, and I found out X 4.0 doesn't support it. That's one damn bad thing for Linux: I would love to have AA in KDE, but unfortunately I have that big problem. Anyone knows if there's a X 4.0 driver for the S540 video board? Any link? I would appreciate a lot. -------------------------------------------- ----
You think Bill Gates is evil?
I remember when I bought Windows 3.11 and Office. Then, it suddenly started hanging when I opened Word. I called the support and they said it was MY problem and they DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT. So, that's the great support I receive.
I mean, how the hell does MS argue they support something? It's AS IS software, it's not like a car. If your car has some weird problem you haven't caused, you have the rights to reclaim a fix for free. If you buy Windows, the only thing you can do when it hangs up is to cry loud.
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
If M$ uses Internet-based piracy protection (connect to some server to verify a license) for example, what would happen to those companies that don't use and DON'T NEED (even if Mr. Gates says everybody needs and blah blah blah) the Internet?
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
Many people are very pessimistic about that, But Red Hat had its problems too. There's still a huge crisis surrounding companies around the world, because of the "computing is the solution for everything in the world" hype. ------------------------------------------------
You think Bill Gates is evil?
That idea of giving away the cellphone is being studied nowadays. The difference is that the cellphones have valuable hardware inside it, and in case of an OS you don't have the hardware costs (so, it's a GREAT idea to "give it away" and charge for the service).
Unfortunately, some people just waste their time to Troll. We don't need it, we need intelligent arguments. -------------------------------------- ----------
You think Bill Gates is evil?
C'mon, most of the brazilian citizens earn about US$75 a month. Now imagine you have 3 kids to raise, you barely would buy enough food for your children, how the hell would you buy a computer? And even worse, how would you pay the phone bills?
Let's not dream about poor brazilian people with computers. THey don't care about it, they care about their own health
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
Many people forget what Kylix is about. It's about building large enterprise solutions. In that case, when a company needs RAD it's not enough to have gcc/vi/etc. Kylix is *NOT* a replacement to gcc.
If your company needs some solution *FAST*, you'll use Kylix because it will hardly be useful for anything else (such applications are commonly customized).
If you want to build a generic software, THEN you use gcc! -------------------------------------------- ----
You think Bill Gates is evil?
One thing is a hacker, someone who really exposes security flaws. But a script kiddie that just wants to say to his kiddie friends "Oh, look at what I did, I HACKED that machine!" is completely different. I used to be flooded by some stupid boy when I had a 28K modem, that sucked big time because phone lines were terrible already, a breeze would be enough to break the connection.
Of course, that kind of guy has that need to show everyone he's a "Hacker". But nobody *NEEDS* to be one. The problem is that his friends think he *NEEDS*, maybe they watched "The Net" and thought it would be l337 (okay, this is not original, but it perfectly demonstrates what made them think they it would be cool to "Hack":)
1) Someone thinks their interface is cool and decides to try it on other OS's.
2) People try it and like it a lot, just watch the number of d/l's.
3) Apple doesn't like it because... Hey, I don't know, Why? Maybe they don't have brains, just lawyers:)
First, Unisys. Then, Fraunhofer, they make me sick. Now, Apple. Perhaps tomorrow McDonald's claims royalties on Hamburgers.
Aren't they meaning they don't want anything better than mp3 because they own the audio compression patent? Isn't it too generic?
BTW, I had an idea. From now own, anyone that eats hot-dog will have to pay me royalties. If you try to escape, your soul will slowly and painfully burn in hell.
I AM GALACTUS
I don't see many problems with adware. But hey, Opera's Ad's are DAMN big! In my 800x600 screen it's extremely annoying. That's why I hated Opera. However, it's VERY VERY fast! A great work, too bad I would have to pay for it.
In fact it crashed 3 times after a format-and-reinstall procedure (some moron infected the machine), with as little software installed as possible. So, it couldn't be the administrator's fault.
Windows 2000 isn't thaaat good. It's obvious that it's better than NT4 (a lot). But it still has several problems, and even the most fanatic W2k fans admit it's extremely annoying sometimes. And IE crashes, yes it does. Crashing 3 times isn't normal, but that doesn't mean it's uncrashable
Opera isn't fully CSS1 compliant. Just check the W3C CSS Test Suite and you'll se it.
Internet Explorer is 99% compliant and Mozilla is almost perfect too.
The latest Mozilla Nightly Builds really impressed me. It's reasonably fast and stable (yes, IE crashed 3 times today, and Mozilla didn't. It's really weird but it's my personal case). I just found out the cool Layers stuff doesn't work yet. It has evolved A LOT though.
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The main discussion shouldn't be if they're unhappy about servers running Linux (but I have to admit it's very funny). It should be about the impact of such M$ acquisitions in Linux gaming. Here in home I have to boot Windows when I want to play some games, though many companies are slowly porting their games.
BTW, I hear many people say W2k rules (and they're reinstalling it every month because "weird errors happen"). 15 years of Microsoft O/S's experience made me sick of it.
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GAAAAAAAAAAAH I can't believe, what a moron. Just because some people are "anti-american" (just because they CRITICIZE the things they don't like instead of just saying "Hey, it's USA, I love USA, look, I have no brain, I can't think by myself!"
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Linux was created by a non-american guy. OOoooooh, I guess Linus Torvalds made a backdoor to take control of USA satellites and missiles, because he is "anti-american".
Let's face it. That argument was REALLY stupid.
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
Okay, you tell someone: "hey, could you please send me a PDF?". There are SO MANY stupid people in this world that simply DON'T EVEN KNOW what a PDF is, they don't know how to save a file as RTF, and they don't know anything but Word.
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Don't take me wrong, I like Linux, I would love to use just Linux. But I have some problems: My printer doesn't work with Linux (Lexmark 3200, there is a driver but it just plain sucks) for example.
There's an important Research Institute in Brazil that DOESN'T ACCEPT NON-WORD DOCUMENTS. If you can't use Word, you can't apply to a job or a research project there. MANY companies don't accept anything but Word.
Maybe you are lucky enough to work M$-free. Most of the people can't, because there's that stupid boss that doesn't want to save a file as RTF, PDF. I'm not a Windows fan, I hate to deal with Windows (even W2k!).
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
So, Slackware doesn't have obsolete libs huh? C'mon :)- --
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
Now, back to the the real world
:)).
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In the real world almost everyone uses Microsoft Office. Now, let's suppose you only use Linux, and you work for a big company, where most of the workers send you Word Documents, PowerPoint presentations, etc. StarOffice sometimes gets lost and can't open it correctly (sometimes it doesn't even open
So, if you NEED to open EVERY document or presentation and you CAN'T just say: "Hey, I don't use Windows, I can't read this", you WILL have to use Office. That's very sad, and I really hate it. But hey, it won't change so fast. MIcrosoft doesn't want any non-MS standard, they want to IMPOSE their standards. They don't even THINK about using some standardized format.
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
First, I think Microsoft is going to use SOAP, not XML-RPC. Then, Sun may use a third protocol, IBM a modified version of SOAP or XML-RPC, and what would be so great about it? The super-ultra-mega XML platform-independence hype would be nonsense.
:) That's the problem. If XML is supposed to be simple, why make it complicated? XML has its potential, but I think there's VERY VERY VERY MUCH hype. Let's get real, it's not the solution for every problem, it won't solve NP-Complete problems.
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Second, if each DBMS (for example) returns the XML its own way, I would have to parse each XML stream differently, wouldn't I? If so, what would be so great about using XML?
Third, I think there're too many W3C "recommendations" for XML. They always want to build something new to do something different. XQuery, XPath, XSalad, Xburger, damn, tomorrow they may build something like DanceML, to make toasters dance
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
What about people that just can't deny using Microsoft products all the time because they need the money? MANY people live that way. For example, I work as an ASP developer. Well, I always bash Microsoft, but hey, I do my job. I don't have many choices, I can't just quit because here where I live (Curitiba - Brazil), I don't see many companies using Linux (in fact, I don't see many companies at all :)). And, if they use, they want experienced workers (well, I have some experience, but not oficially, just reading tutorials and testing new stuff for fun).
So, my only choice is to agree to use the "reliable", "stable", "*able", "affordable", M$ products.
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
I didn't see anything about "Windows XP" in the Kernel summit. So, it would be COMPLETELY OFFTOPIC.-
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
I have bought a Diamond Stealth S540 recently, and I found out X 4.0 doesn't support it. That's one damn bad thing for Linux: I would love to have AA in KDE, but unfortunately I have that big problem. Anyone knows if there's a X 4.0 driver for the S540 video board? Any link? I would appreciate a lot.- ----
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
I remember when I bought Windows 3.11 and Office. Then, it suddenly started hanging when I opened Word. I called the support and they said it was MY problem and they DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT. So, that's the great support I receive.-
I mean, how the hell does MS argue they support something? It's AS IS software, it's not like a car. If your car has some weird problem you haven't caused, you have the rights to reclaim a fix for free. If you buy Windows, the only thing you can do when it hangs up is to cry loud.
-----------------------------------------------
You think Bill Gates is evil?
If M$ uses Internet-based piracy protection (connect to some server to verify a license) for example, what would happen to those companies that don't use and DON'T NEED (even if Mr. Gates says everybody needs and blah blah blah) the Internet?
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
Many people are very pessimistic about that, But Red Hat had its problems too. There's still a huge crisis surrounding companies around the world, because of the "computing is the solution for everything in the world" hype.-
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
More BSD trolls. Damn, I thought W2k trolls were enough to infect /. :)- --
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
That idea of giving away the cellphone is being studied nowadays. The difference is that the cellphones have valuable hardware inside it, and in case of an OS you don't have the hardware costs (so, it's a GREAT idea to "give it away" and charge for the service).
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Unfortunately, some people just waste their time to Troll. We don't need it, we need intelligent arguments.
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
C'mon, most of the brazilian citizens earn about US$75 a month. Now imagine you have 3 kids to raise, you barely would buy enough food for your children, how the hell would you buy a computer? And even worse, how would you pay the phone bills?
Let's not dream about poor brazilian people with computers. THey don't care about it, they care about their own health
-----------------------------------------------
You think Bill Gates is evil?
Many people forget what Kylix is about. It's about building large enterprise solutions. In that case, when a company needs RAD it's not enough to have gcc/vi/etc. Kylix is *NOT* a replacement to gcc.
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If your company needs some solution *FAST*, you'll use Kylix because it will hardly be useful for anything else (such applications are commonly customized).
If you want to build a generic software, THEN you use gcc!
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You think Bill Gates is evil?
IE5 runs on WIndows 3.1 with 8MB RAM????? I'll just pretend I didn't hear it mmmkay? :)
One thing is a hacker, someone who really exposes security flaws. But a script kiddie that just wants to say to his kiddie friends "Oh, look at what I did, I HACKED that machine!" is completely different. I used to be flooded by some stupid boy when I had a 28K modem, that sucked big time because phone lines were terrible already, a breeze would be enough to break the connection.
Of course, that kind of guy has that need to show everyone he's a "Hacker". But nobody *NEEDS* to be one. The problem is that his friends think he *NEEDS*, maybe they watched "The Net" and thought it would be l337 (okay, this is not original, but it perfectly demonstrates what made them think they it would be cool to "Hack" :)
1) Someone thinks their interface is cool and decides to try it on other OS's. 2) People try it and like it a lot, just watch the number of d/l's. 3) Apple doesn't like it because... Hey, I don't know, Why? Maybe they don't have brains, just lawyers :)
First, Unisys. Then, Fraunhofer, they make me sick. Now, Apple. Perhaps tomorrow McDonald's claims royalties on Hamburgers.
Aren't they meaning they don't want anything better than mp3 because they own the audio compression patent? Isn't it too generic?
BTW, I had an idea. From now own, anyone that eats hot-dog will have to pay me royalties. If you try to escape, your soul will slowly and painfully burn in hell.
I AM GALACTUS
I don't see many problems with adware. But hey, Opera's Ad's are DAMN big! In my 800x600 screen it's extremely annoying. That's why I hated Opera. However, it's VERY VERY fast! A great work, too bad I would have to pay for it.
In fact it crashed 3 times after a format-and-reinstall procedure (some moron infected the machine), with as little software installed as possible. So, it couldn't be the administrator's fault.
Windows 2000 isn't thaaat good. It's obvious that it's better than NT4 (a lot). But it still has several problems, and even the most fanatic W2k fans admit it's extremely annoying sometimes. And IE crashes, yes it does. Crashing 3 times isn't normal, but that doesn't mean it's uncrashable
Opera isn't fully CSS1 compliant. Just check the W3C CSS Test Suite and you'll se it. Internet Explorer is 99% compliant and Mozilla is almost perfect too.
The latest Mozilla Nightly Builds really impressed me. It's reasonably fast and stable (yes, IE crashed 3 times today, and Mozilla didn't. It's really weird but it's my personal case). I just found out the cool Layers stuff doesn't work yet. It has evolved A LOT though.
Macweek doesn't run an Operating System That's ridiculous :)
The main discussion shouldn't be if they're unhappy about servers running Linux (but I have to admit it's very funny). It should be about the impact of such M$ acquisitions in Linux gaming. Here in home I have to boot Windows when I want to play some games, though many companies are slowly porting their games. BTW, I hear many people say W2k rules (and they're reinstalling it every month because "weird errors happen"). 15 years of Microsoft O/S's experience made me sick of it.