Agreed, and to illustrate your point, look at what happened when Linus was under heavy pressure to release 2.4. We got an unstable mess that clearly would have benefited from a few more months of development...
That's pretty clever, though I'm also fairly certain that this will only spur open source developers to develop a Linux that will run on the bare metal.
Hmm, I'm not so sure. It's possible, of course, but I think Sony's using a smart tactic to limit hackers: give them half of what they want.
By providing a Linux for the PS/2, even an (apparently) semi-crippled Linux, they have reduced the number of people who will work on or support serious efforts to hack the hardware. Lots of people will be happy to have *any* Linux on the PS/2 and go no further...
I use Window Maker on my laptops, but I've never even looked at GnuStep. I'm guessing that there are a LOT of people who fit the same category. Maybe that will change if OS X ports start to happen...
Interesting. I ordered the CD when they first made it available, but I haven't done much with it. Anybody have any idea about performance and features vs. other databases?
Probably more interesting though is whether this thing is going to grow legs or not. My probably uninformed opinion is that it's less likely to be heavily community-developed because of the weird codebase, if it was written in pure C it would probably stand a better chance of wide developer interest...
Agreed. This is one of the things that "the community" can't do well. Porting existing games aside, It appears to me that there aren't enough artists, writers or musicians willing to get involved to produce games that are up to 21st century production values.
All the very good and fun "me too" games like FreeCIV, maelstrom, gnometris etc. prove that there are plenty of coders who are interested in producing free(speech) games, but not enough creative people.
I'm sure it will be said a dozen times again in this thread, but I'm bummed.
I've got five Loki products cramming my hard drive, and even though their products were sometimes indifferently supported and somewhat uneven in quality, I'm really sorry to seem them go as I'll have no reliable source for new products.
I'd imagine the contracts to support UT and QIII were pretty huge for them, it was a bad sign when they went away...
for fairly up-to-date co-op gaming, try the Delta Force series. DF:Land Warrior, the last one came out around Christmas 2000. Give it a try, should be in the cheepo bins by now...
I've been working on a similar box for my employer. We're a small shop (3 developers, 3 techs) and we leverage Free software to help us compete with the big boys.
I'd be surprised if a lot of smaller, clued shops aren't doing the same thing. How else can you compete with big guys like IBM who can throw a billion people at a problem? And before you ask, yes we have given code to the community, and yes we provide source code to our customers...
The Chinese and the Aztecs are good examples of how a stable, slow- or non- technologically developing culture can be overwhelmed when a more technologically advanced alien culture changes the rules...
Uh, as an advanced society, do we really wish to cripple scientific progress for the sake of ignorant superstition?
If we are an advanced society, why can't we control the ideas and techniques that are admitted into our culture? Was the atomic bomb a good idea or a bad idea? Is nerve gas a good idea or a bad idea? Of course, each of these specific instances is tied to a boatload of other ideas, products and techniques, and it seems that we can't have one without the other, radiation treatments for cancer, say, without the atom bomb, or advanced polymers and medications without the techniques to create nerve gas.
Doesn't matter, as many have pointed out, "you can't control progress", because it marches on one way or the other.
The thing is, why CAN'T we have the medicine without the nerve gas? Why aren't we sufficiently in control of ourselves to be able to have one without the other?
Don't answer with the obvious, I see it as well as you do. I'm wondering if a different world view, yes possibly even a religious one,(although I am not a religious person) might give us the will to regulate progress a little bit better.
Is the _speed_ of advance so important, versus the _quality_ of our lives?
802.11b ISPs? What are you smoking and/or where do you live!?
Smelly old Windsor, Ontario, the Leningrad of Canada has at least one 802.11b provider, so I'm guessing it's more widespread than you think
Our local utility company apparently has a fiber network in the ground with fairly good geographic coverage. They've signed with a couple of bandwidth providers and are connecting businesses, so the prospect of a municipal bandwidth supply is at least a possibility...
Agreed that the OS is only a small part of the cost of an enterprise system, but at the low end of the market those OS licenses get pretty expensive, take a walk through an NT server room in an organization with two or three hundred desktops (this type of customer is my employer's primary customer base), and count the NT licenses. Realizing that most of those servers are performing commodity type work, they are extremely ripe to be replaced with Linux.
However you are right about the high end middleware. Once you get to that point though I would hope you are not evaluating a solution on cost alone.
They can't cry foul too hard though, since the relative cheapness of their platform and OS is one of the major elements that brought Wintel to the dominant place in the market...
overextending the desktop metaphor is not the answer! I'm reminded of the embryonic graphical word processors of the '80s, and the "construction set" games.
although (contradicting myself), now that you mention it, there's a PHB tool called E-Quill for marking up browser content that gets a lot of mileage out of overextending the desktop metaphor...
Is it so hard to understand that some applications will not come into existence through Open Source efforts? Specialty stuff like this compiler will never exist for Linux if you insist on 100% adherence to doctrine.
Linux users seem to be in general pretty much opposed to paying for anything.
Only partially true. I think you're right that Linux hobbyists are reluctant to pay for anything, just as a hobbyist is more likely to be running a warez version of Windows 2000 Server.
A commercial enterprise is going to spend the money where they have to. Else how do you explain DB/2, Oracle and Notes server for Linux?
Now, asking how many companies are really using Linux in planned, approved production (as opposed to techies setting up some rogue server) is a legitimate question...
In a previous life in utility construction, I saw the grizzled old conduit guys "blow string" with an air compressor. Be sure to use an old wadded up rag at the head of your string, that way it will maintain a maximum head of pressure behind it...
no, it's an old-typewriter-guy thing
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the cheapie manual typewriter I had as a kid only had the digits 2-9 because you are supposed to use the l and O for 1 and 0.
In the days when the machine you were typing information into just splattered the information on a page instead of processing it, I guess it didn't matter...
Microsoft SQL Server is one of the few Microsoft products I would recommend to clients.
It's a reasonably powerful RDBMS. mySQL is simply not an option in most mission critical situations,/. notwithstanding;)
I'll admit that I haven't used postgreSQL in a production environment (boy I'd love to) so I can't speak to it's scalability, although I will say that it performs much better than MS-SQL on garbage hardware. That's not much of an endorsement, unfortunately, since if all you have is garbage hardware mySQL is probably "good enough" for whatever application you have....
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Agreed, and to illustrate your point, look at what happened when Linus was under heavy pressure to release 2.4. We got an unstable mess that clearly would have benefited from a few more months of development...
no focus follows mouse?
glad I didn't go out and buy a mac then, that would have infuriated me...
That's pretty clever, though I'm also fairly certain that this will only spur open source developers to develop a Linux that will run on the bare metal.
Hmm, I'm not so sure. It's possible, of course, but I think Sony's using a smart tactic to limit hackers: give them half of what they want.
By providing a Linux for the PS/2, even an (apparently) semi-crippled Linux, they have reduced the number of people who will work on or support serious efforts to hack the hardware. Lots of people will be happy to have *any* Linux on the PS/2 and go no further...
I wonder.
I use Window Maker on my laptops, but I've never even looked at GnuStep. I'm guessing that there are a LOT of people who fit the same category. Maybe that will change if OS X ports start to happen...
Interesting. I ordered the CD when they first made it available, but I haven't done much with it. Anybody have any idea about performance and features vs. other databases?
Probably more interesting though is whether this thing is going to grow legs or not. My probably uninformed opinion is that it's less likely to be heavily community-developed because of the weird codebase, if it was written in pure C it would probably stand a better chance of wide developer interest...
Agreed. This is one of the things that "the community" can't do well. Porting existing games aside, It appears to me that there aren't enough artists, writers or musicians willing to get involved to produce games that are up to 21st century production values.
All the very good and fun "me too" games like FreeCIV, maelstrom, gnometris etc. prove that there are plenty of coders who are interested in producing free(speech) games, but not enough creative people.
Just the Loki-written stuff that hasn't already been released under other projects. The installer, stuff like that.
The installer is already being used by others. Id used it (or went to a lot of trouble to duplicate it exactly) for Return to Castle Wolfenstein...
I'm sure it will be said a dozen times again in this thread, but I'm bummed.
I've got five Loki products cramming my hard drive, and even though their products were sometimes indifferently supported and somewhat uneven in quality, I'm really sorry to seem them go as I'll have no reliable source for new products.
I'd imagine the contracts to support UT and QIII were pretty huge for them, it was a bad sign when they went away...
How about some of those porn sites that use Perl extensively donating some of their profits?
Of course, maybe they do - if I was getting bucks from porn people I might not be issuing press releases about it :)
Never have I seen a Solaris/x86 installation used for real work, although I'm sure they're out there.
our Netra X1s don't have CD-Rom drives, and we use a Solaris/x86 machine as an install server...
for fairly up-to-date co-op gaming, try the Delta Force series. DF:Land Warrior, the last one came out around Christmas 2000. Give it a try, should be in the cheepo bins by now...
I've been working on a similar box for my employer. We're a small shop (3 developers, 3 techs) and we leverage Free software to help us compete with the big boys.
I'd be surprised if a lot of smaller, clued shops aren't doing the same thing. How else can you compete with big guys like IBM who can throw a billion people at a problem? And before you ask, yes we have given code to the community, and yes we provide source code to our customers...
Good point.
The Chinese and the Aztecs are good examples of how a stable, slow- or non- technologically developing culture can be overwhelmed when a more technologically advanced alien culture changes the rules...
Uh, as an advanced society, do we really wish to cripple scientific progress for the sake of ignorant superstition?
If we are an advanced society, why can't we control the ideas and techniques that are admitted into our culture? Was the atomic bomb a good idea or a bad idea? Is nerve gas a good idea or a bad idea? Of course, each of these specific instances is tied to a boatload of other ideas, products and techniques, and it seems that we can't have one without the other, radiation treatments for cancer, say, without the atom bomb, or advanced polymers and medications without the techniques to create nerve gas.
Doesn't matter, as many have pointed out, "you can't control progress", because it marches on one way or the other.
The thing is, why CAN'T we have the medicine without the nerve gas? Why aren't we sufficiently in control of ourselves to be able to have one without the other?
Don't answer with the obvious, I see it as well as you do. I'm wondering if a different world view, yes possibly even a religious one,(although I am not a religious person) might give us the will to regulate progress a little bit better.
Is the _speed_ of advance so important, versus the _quality_ of our lives?
802.11b ISPs? What are you smoking and/or where do you live!?
Smelly old Windsor, Ontario, the Leningrad of Canada has at least one 802.11b provider, so I'm guessing it's more widespread than you think
Our local utility company apparently has a fiber network in the ground with fairly good geographic coverage. They've signed with a couple of bandwidth providers and are connecting businesses, so the prospect of a municipal bandwidth supply is at least a possibility...
yeah I wondered about that too.
Maybe it's an Amiga, although my mental picture was a dusty C-64, tape drive and 300 bps modem.
Agreed that the OS is only a small part of the cost of an enterprise system, but at the low end of the market those OS licenses get pretty expensive, take a walk through an NT server room in an organization with two or three hundred desktops (this type of customer is my employer's primary customer base), and count the NT licenses. Realizing that most of those servers are performing commodity type work, they are extremely ripe to be replaced with Linux.
However you are right about the high end middleware. Once you get to that point though I would hope you are not evaluating a solution on cost alone.
Not too easy competing with free, is it?
They can't cry foul too hard though, since the relative cheapness of their platform and OS is one of the major elements that brought Wintel to the dominant place in the market...
ack!
overextending the desktop metaphor is not the answer! I'm reminded of the embryonic graphical word processors of the '80s, and the "construction set" games.
although (contradicting myself), now that you mention it, there's a PHB tool called E-Quill for marking up browser content that gets a lot of mileage out of overextending the desktop metaphor...
not an uber geek but I'll give it a try.
Check the README in the kernel source directory for the list of required software for the 2.4.x series.
From the kernel version you are using I'd expect to be upgrading a whole lotta stuff
ugh, how wrong you are.
Is it so hard to understand that some applications will not come into existence through Open Source efforts? Specialty stuff like this compiler will never exist for Linux if you insist on 100% adherence to doctrine.
Linux users seem to be in general pretty much opposed to paying for anything.
Only partially true. I think you're right that Linux hobbyists are reluctant to pay for anything, just as a hobbyist is more likely to be running a warez version of Windows 2000 Server.
A commercial enterprise is going to spend the money where they have to. Else how do you explain DB/2, Oracle and Notes server for Linux?
Now, asking how many companies are really using Linux in planned, approved production (as opposed to techies setting up some rogue server) is a legitimate question...
Yep, that's what the pros do
In a previous life in utility construction, I saw the grizzled old conduit guys "blow string" with an air compressor. Be sure to use an old wadded up rag at the head of your string, that way it will maintain a maximum head of pressure behind it...
the cheapie manual typewriter I had as a kid only had the digits 2-9 because you are supposed to use the l and O for 1 and 0.
In the days when the machine you were typing information into just splattered the information on a page instead of processing it, I guess it didn't matter...
Microsoft SQL Server is one of the few Microsoft products I would recommend to clients.
It's a reasonably powerful RDBMS. mySQL is simply not an option in most mission critical situations, /. notwithstanding ;)
I'll admit that I haven't used postgreSQL in a production environment (boy I'd love to) so I can't speak to it's scalability, although I will say that it performs much better than MS-SQL on garbage hardware. That's not much of an endorsement, unfortunately, since if all you have is garbage hardware mySQL is probably "good enough" for whatever application you have....