Yes, if your firewall denys the check. Firewalls are also very capable of sending back "yes, yes, nothing to see here."
When I was in the dorms I had a very nice statefull IPF firewall that everytime the university portscanned me, it gave a response on ports 135,139 as windows would have. The rest of the ports were closed. Could they have figured out it was an OpenBSD machine? Sure - the TCP sequence prediction is a pretty good hint at that. Could they figure out what I'm running behind that firewall? Very very unlikely.
At that point they could just start monitoring the packets going across the wire and go into big brother mode.
Some bored college kid will find some way around this and 100 of his friends will be doing it within a week. Thats the nature of the system.
I think that many more people would benefit from these joyous unemployment moments. So don't hesitate, quit today. That way those of us who are stuck day in and day out applying to hundreds of jobs with the hope they we get so much as one interview.
Unemployment is not fun no matter what a book or an article may say. Myself, and the other 10 dozen Slashdoter's need jobs.
This doesn't look good for Linux, in my opinion. Maybe we should all start to think about jumping ship?
Newsflash: I use linux because I like linux. I like the way it organizes things, and I like compiling my own programs. Its my primary desktop, not running on some rackmounted datacenter box. 2k3 doesn't help me. Oh and I'm a broke ex-university student so unless someone is going to give me enough to cover a copy of 2k3, I'm not going to run it.
The last two lines of this submission are nothing but flamebait and add nothing to the story. At least he said it was his opinion.
Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect.
Just reading that made me smile. Everybody takes this whole MS vs. the world thing so seriously its great someone can sit back and still have fun with it.
Forgot about the vote fiasco. Its kinda funny looking back.
You can I actually probably agree on most issues; you're just trying to stear the ship a little harder than I.:)
Domestic concerns (like me graduating and not having a job) should be taking much more of a front seat than they currently are. As for the deficit I try not to think about it (given the economy is already a mess and this doesn't help).
Anyway its good to see people with some passion. Makes things intersting. So you stear like a maniac and I'll lean into the turns:).
You can't remain quiet about that! You need to discuss the issues, not hide behind some "Patriot Act" or TIA mandate, or hell, use the DMCA as a club to beat your rights to death.
You know, in that semi-manical rant that really doesn't seem like much more than flamebait you overlooked a few important things. Many view the Patriot Act as a "bad thing" and with work it will be restricted back to sensable levels (ie gone). TIA was killed because of the vigilence and outcry of the people. And the DMCA was passed quietly into law before anyone noticed and thus those of us who have the priviledge to live in this country have to suffer with the consequences. The outcry of the people of Europe is very commendable; maybe they'll have a chance to stop what we didn't.
You also missed the most important action in your rant - vote.
I don't know about StarOffice (I'll never use another Sun product ever again... well almost never *curses java*) but OpenOffice can use KDE's icons so you can pretty much make it look like any KDE application.
That's with the OpenOffice 1.1RC series. Its not unstable for me at all and with the icons, its not ugly. It is still slow as heck though. Of course as koffice is going to migrate to OpenOffice's fileformats, this issue will be mute for you eventually.
I can't believe that we're all still living, to paraphrase Douglas Adams, on "an utterly insignificant little blue-green planet whose ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think [touch-tone phones] are a pretty neat idea."
Well, by all means then feel free to leave. I understand alot of the bashing, flaming, "my os is better than your os" stuff that goes on on slashdot. I'm usually a part of that. But how can you bash Earth? I mean, its not like there is an alternative yet alone a better place to live. You, me, and everyone else on this "insignificant blue-green planet" would not be here nor live very long without it.
Ok, that fulfills my soapbox requirements for the day. Back to my plans to terraform venus...
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As the Anonymous Coward said quite well, the defintion of a billion is different in the US than in the UK (Just a guess but the _British_ Broadcasting Company is probably somewhere in the UK).
As far as I know, 200,000 Million is the US definition of 2 Billion while the UK definition would be more 200,000,000 Million.
Of course the issue is probably mute as in the time I've written this Google has probably caught up.
it was a joke that everyone would have to be a lawyer "when we grew up" because that would be the only way we could survive. Its kinda sad that its almost to that point now (if not a lawyer then a healthy knowledge of the law is required to do just about anything).
That said I'm planning my return to law school to study Intellectual Property Law. Any suggestions? I hear GW has a good program but funny thing is that one of the top internship providers listed in their viewbook is this RIAA association...
I've had thunderbird open on my 2K machine for several hours now. Its holding nicely at 10,296K. Its checking an IMAP account and a POP3 account every 10 minutes and beyond that sitting there nicely.
I don't have outlook express installed so I can't give you a comparison but there's a start.
No, they're not. They can be integrated but don't have to be. That's the whole idea. I use Firebird for web and Thunderbird for mail. I don't use them at the same time and usually I don't use them on the same machine (the on the right does browsing and the one on the left does email).
The "Suite going away" is more about the toolkit the Suite is built on going away in favor of the toolkit built for for Firebird. The ablity to only install the parts of Mozilla I use on any given computer is a major plus. I mean come on - how many Outlook users are irritated they have to update Outlook Express when IE goes up a version?
Often echoed on Slashdot is the value of choice: This split is a good thing.
Yes, you can believe that if you wish. A libertarian believes in the rights of people to decide their own actions. I'm a leftist as I see the best way for the people to do this is through the government. Governments have the responsiblity to protect the rights of their citizens and their interests.
This is the second time you have used tsunami - do you actually know what one is? Be an arrogant bafoon, that's your right.
You know, I didn't waste much of my time reading your inane ramble but I read the first line and that was enough to know you had no idea what you're talking about. For reference, I'm a leftist libertarian and complaining about exploitative labor in other countries is very well within my political philosophy.
The rest of your post contains various inacurate accounts and inane comments. If you're going to attempt an argument, try and put together something coherent.
My view on this matter is far simpler and doesn't require references to the dark ages. The market of programers was flooded following the dot.com bubble and there is no way to sustain that market while there is cheap labor else where. Why is this a shock to everyone? I knew this going into college over 3 years ago(which, incidently, is why I'm not a Computer Science Major). Everyone, even this poster can claim ignorance but that won't help them today. They need to find another way to live - either overseas as a post suggested or go back to graduate school and diversify.
about the games that many of my "general population" (read: not-geek friends) play alot and they consist mainly of shockwave games on the net. You can pick them up in five minutes and actually they are pretty amusing.
That and well snood (frozen-bubble for the geekites) but people either play that for about 3 seconds or 3 hours depending on their preference. Personally I'm looking for a cross platform Dr. Mario-esq game I can play for hours...
I might not speak for everybody but I'd imagine that the majority of people went "Hire an electrician" when they read that story. I really don't think you want to be mucking around in there with "some sort of junction in them that's the size of a 1-liter bottle" as you don't appear to know what that is (neither do I).
I know you want to save money but you're likely to fry the electric equipment in your establishment and might take yourself with it. Hiring a professional would likely be cheaper in the long run.
Not to flame you but, not everyone is in math or science and I can considerably out-type my handwriting (deprecated).
That said, given classes today laptops are unnecessary and a burden. Since every professor has this idea that you need a powerpoint slideshow to coordinate a lecture and then posts those slides online after a lecture, its just as easy to print them out.
The good ones are smart enough to ask questions on tests that aren't covered in the slides. They provide the slides ahead of time so you can write notes in the margins and thus do well on the test. Sadly that is a small minority.
Well, consider the technology for a moment. If you're not willing to shell out the ton of money a color laser costs why not get a deskjet and a B&W Laser?
I have an older laser printer that prints reems of black and white (text documents mainly) and I've never replaced the toner. For photos I have a 100 dollar epson that prints out 7200x7200 or something ridiculous. The laser was 70 from ebay and the color printer was 60 dollars on special from best buy. Figure you'll print 2-3 cartridges worth of color and then buy a new printer (specs will have improved and at the cost of color printers a new one isn't much more than new cartridges).
The HP 4L I have is old but its a workhorse. 300dpi but it never complains about the documents I send it. Its outlasted 3 colorprinters now.
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Yes, if your firewall denys the check. Firewalls are also very capable of sending back "yes, yes, nothing to see here."
When I was in the dorms I had a very nice statefull IPF firewall that everytime the university portscanned me, it gave a response on ports 135,139 as windows would have. The rest of the ports were closed. Could they have figured out it was an OpenBSD machine? Sure - the TCP sequence prediction is a pretty good hint at that. Could they figure out what I'm running behind that firewall? Very very unlikely.
At that point they could just start monitoring the packets going across the wire and go into big brother mode.
Some bored college kid will find some way around this and 100 of his friends will be doing it within a week. Thats the nature of the system.
I really have nothing to add but as we've finally made it up to my slashdot UID I felt I should post something.
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:).
"I'd like to thank the Academy and my agent Bob
Now when they get to my domainname, that'll be impressive
I think that many more people would benefit from these joyous unemployment moments. So don't hesitate, quit today. That way those of us who are stuck day in and day out applying to hundreds of jobs with the hope they we get so much as one interview.
Unemployment is not fun no matter what a book or an article may say. Myself, and the other 10 dozen Slashdoter's need jobs.
Its actually a quote from Dark Helmet in SpaceBalls.
Kinda like It's good to be the king.
This doesn't look good for Linux, in my opinion. Maybe we should all start to think about jumping ship?
Newsflash: I use linux because I like linux. I like the way it organizes things, and I like compiling my own programs. Its my primary desktop, not running on some rackmounted datacenter box. 2k3 doesn't help me. Oh and I'm a broke ex-university student so unless someone is going to give me enough to cover a copy of 2k3, I'm not going to run it.
The last two lines of this submission are nothing but flamebait and add nothing to the story. At least he said it was his opinion.
Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect.
Just reading that made me smile. Everybody takes this whole MS vs. the world thing so seriously its great someone can sit back and still have fun with it.
Forgot about the vote fiasco. Its kinda funny looking back.
:)
:).
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You can I actually probably agree on most issues; you're just trying to stear the ship a little harder than I.
Domestic concerns (like me graduating and not having a job) should be taking much more of a front seat than they currently are. As for the deficit I try not to think about it (given the economy is already a mess and this doesn't help).
Anyway its good to see people with some passion. Makes things intersting. So you stear like a maniac and I'll lean into the turns
I kid, I kid
You can't remain quiet about that! You need to discuss the issues, not hide behind some "Patriot Act" or TIA mandate, or hell, use the DMCA as a club to beat your rights to death.
You know, in that semi-manical rant that really doesn't seem like much more than flamebait you overlooked a few important things. Many view the Patriot Act as a "bad thing" and with work it will be restricted back to sensable levels (ie gone). TIA was killed because of the vigilence and outcry of the people. And the DMCA was passed quietly into law before anyone noticed and thus those of us who have the priviledge to live in this country have to suffer with the consequences. The outcry of the people of Europe is very commendable; maybe they'll have a chance to stop what we didn't.
You also missed the most important action in your rant - vote.
I don't know about StarOffice (I'll never use another Sun product ever again ... well almost never *curses java*) but OpenOffice can use KDE's icons so you can pretty much make it look like any KDE application.
That's with the OpenOffice 1.1RC series. Its not unstable for me at all and with the icons, its not ugly. It is still slow as heck though. Of course as koffice is going to migrate to OpenOffice's fileformats, this issue will be mute for you eventually.
Can the FBI kick down your door for having bleach and Toilet Duck in your house?
Please sir, don't give them any ideas.
I can't believe that we're all still living, to paraphrase Douglas Adams, on "an utterly insignificant little blue-green planet whose ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think [touch-tone phones] are a pretty neat idea."
...
Well, by all means then feel free to leave. I understand alot of the bashing, flaming, "my os is better than your os" stuff that goes on on slashdot. I'm usually a part of that. But how can you bash Earth? I mean, its not like there is an alternative yet alone a better place to live. You, me, and everyone else on this "insignificant blue-green planet" would not be here nor live very long without it.
Ok, that fulfills my soapbox requirements for the day. Back to my plans to terraform venus
As the Anonymous Coward said quite well, the defintion of a billion is different in the US than in the UK (Just a guess but the _British_ Broadcasting Company is probably somewhere in the UK).
As far as I know, 200,000 Million is the US definition of 2 Billion while the UK definition would be more 200,000,000 Million.
Of course the issue is probably mute as in the time I've written this Google has probably caught up.
it was a joke that everyone would have to be a lawyer "when we grew up" because that would be the only way we could survive. Its kinda sad that its almost to that point now (if not a lawyer then a healthy knowledge of the law is required to do just about anything).
...
That said I'm planning my return to law school to study Intellectual Property Law. Any suggestions? I hear GW has a good program but funny thing is that one of the top internship providers listed in their viewbook is this RIAA association
I'd prefer the EFF.
I've had thunderbird open on my 2K machine for several hours now. Its holding nicely at 10,296K. Its checking an IMAP account and a POP3 account every 10 minutes and beyond that sitting there nicely.
I don't have outlook express installed so I can't give you a comparison but there's a start.
No, they're not. They can be integrated but don't have to be. That's the whole idea. I use Firebird for web and Thunderbird for mail. I don't use them at the same time and usually I don't use them on the same machine (the on the right does browsing and the one on the left does email).
The "Suite going away" is more about the toolkit the Suite is built on going away in favor of the toolkit built for for Firebird. The ablity to only install the parts of Mozilla I use on any given computer is a major plus. I mean come on - how many Outlook users are irritated they have to update Outlook Express when IE goes up a version? Often echoed on Slashdot is the value of choice: This split is a good thing.
Yes, you can believe that if you wish. A libertarian believes in the rights of people to decide their own actions. I'm a leftist as I see the best way for the people to do this is through the government. Governments have the responsiblity to protect the rights of their citizens and their interests.
This is the second time you have used tsunami - do you actually know what one is? Be an arrogant bafoon, that's your right.
You know, I didn't waste much of my time reading your inane ramble but I read the first line and that was enough to know you had no idea what you're talking about. For reference, I'm a leftist libertarian and complaining about exploitative labor in other countries is very well within my political philosophy.
The rest of your post contains various inacurate accounts and inane comments. If you're going to attempt an argument, try and put together something coherent.
My view on this matter is far simpler and doesn't require references to the dark ages. The market of programers was flooded following the dot.com bubble and there is no way to sustain that market while there is cheap labor else where. Why is this a shock to everyone? I knew this going into college over 3 years ago(which, incidently, is why I'm not a Computer Science Major). Everyone, even this poster can claim ignorance but that won't help them today. They need to find another way to live - either overseas as a post suggested or go back to graduate school and diversify.
"With cool stuff like this, it's no wonder MIT is number one in engineering."
... three letter acronyms ... I can't do that Dave ...
Am I the only one that got a major AOL vibe there? Too many
about the games that many of my "general population" (read: not-geek friends) play alot and they consist mainly of shockwave games on the net. You can pick them up in five minutes and actually they are pretty amusing.
...
That and well snood (frozen-bubble for the geekites) but people either play that for about 3 seconds or 3 hours depending on their preference. Personally I'm looking for a cross platform Dr. Mario-esq game I can play for hours
I might not speak for everybody but I'd imagine that the majority of people went "Hire an electrician" when they read that story. I really don't think you want to be mucking around in there with "some sort of junction in them that's the size of a 1-liter bottle" as you don't appear to know what that is (neither do I).
I know you want to save money but you're likely to fry the electric equipment in your establishment and might take yourself with it. Hiring a professional would likely be cheaper in the long run.
Not to flame you but, not everyone is in math or science and I can considerably out-type my handwriting (deprecated).
That said, given classes today laptops are unnecessary and a burden. Since every professor has this idea that you need a powerpoint slideshow to coordinate a lecture and then posts those slides online after a lecture, its just as easy to print them out.
The good ones are smart enough to ask questions on tests that aren't covered in the slides. They provide the slides ahead of time so you can write notes in the margins and thus do well on the test. Sadly that is a small minority.
Well, consider the technology for a moment. If you're not willing to shell out the ton of money a color laser costs why not get a deskjet and a B&W Laser?
I have an older laser printer that prints reems of black and white (text documents mainly) and I've never replaced the toner. For photos I have a 100 dollar epson that prints out 7200x7200 or something ridiculous. The laser was 70 from ebay and the color printer was 60 dollars on special from best buy. Figure you'll print 2-3 cartridges worth of color and then buy a new printer (specs will have improved and at the cost of color printers a new one isn't much more than new cartridges).
The HP 4L I have is old but its a workhorse. 300dpi but it never complains about the documents I send it. Its outlasted 3 colorprinters now.
While I understand the point you were trying to make, couldn't you mearly have said:
:).
"Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics"
Just thought I'd state the obvious. I'm good at that
Bah, thats easy.
How about a game of Global Thermonuclear War?
Since the other two posts told you technically why this isn't practical I think I'd give the "funny" response:
... well, we've all read the Andromeda Strain. I know where thats going :)
Nuclear reactor hurling itself back at earth = bad in the eyes of enviromentalists and anybody else that doesn't want a reactor landing on their car.
An of course if there is life on Europa and the probe comes back