I know that this is a troll, but I'll bite: If you want to use Linux, you need to buy Linux-compatible hardware. Just like you wouldn't by a winprinter for a mac or an iPOD for win32 (yet), you shouldn't buy stuff that you know they don't work or work well under linux. This has been pretty well documented.
Instead of bitching around in message forums with your 24.6k modem connection, why don't you spend the time researching what works under linux and what doesn't. Maybe you would have found that there are card readers for every digital film format (compact flash, smartmedia, memorystick, sd etc) that work under linux.
Or maybe, if you can afford "the outrageous price" for the HP printer, you can afford a win32 CD and perhaps then _you_ could do something more than "practice networking skills and use the internet! Whopity-friggin doo!". Or even a mac (which are not expensive compared to a PC. definetly not -especially the imacs).
"I'll do everything within my power, be it donating money to carrying your kids to soccer practice, if you folks will just start writing drivers!"
How about stop bitching and be thankful to the people that _have_ written the million lines of code (including drivers) that make linux usable and enjoyable for us. Oh and start running windows. I have a feeling you two will get along just fine.
A hard drive based solution, comes at 6GB-20GB flavors, works under Linux (I'm using it with the usb-storage module), and I got it for around £150 (british pounds).
Great for transfering data as well: Windows finds it as a normal drive, and I can mount it under linux (vfat).
It reminded me of this part from the phantom menace script (the abridged version:)
INT. TATOOINE - SOME SHOP WHERE JAKE LLOYD IS HELD SLAVE
JAKE LLOYD
Hi there! Golly I'm cute.
NATALIE PORTMAN
You certainly are, little boy.
JAKE LLOYD
I'm the only one disturbed by the fact that I'm gonna bone you in episode two?
:)
Seriously though, can't these people _act_? The first half of this teaser is crap!
And why did you discount java? Unless you're forced to use C/C++, you can code it in java, which provides well tested libraries... You can even compile it to native code if speed is such an issue...
Let's set the scene: You're at the park with your new girl, watching the moon rise over the horizon, and things start gettin' a bit steamy. You're past first base, rounding second, and sure you're gonna get to slide into home.
This is slashdot. These things just do not compute.
Does Sun use StarOffice exclusively within Sun? Maybe I just haven't seen all the press releases of them touting how much money they save and the huge success it has been, but isn't a little funny that they don't make a huge deal of Sun being "100% pure StarOffice -- Microsoft free?"
Nope! I went to a p2p (p2p2001) conference in sweden in August, and there were lots of guys there giving presentations on JXTA... They were all using powerpoint 2000... Kinda interesting, don't you think?
"The internet should be illegal. It's one big "p2p" network, after all.
FTP, HTTP, Telnet, Usenet, Gopher, POP, SMTP...and of course, IRC!
"
Although I agree with the point you are trying to make, it is important to note that the internet (at least the examples you mentioned) are definetly NOT P2P. They rely on a server/client architecture (servers being apache, wu-ftp, ircd, sendmail, etc, clients being mozilla, ftp, x-chat, evolution etc)
when computers and machines do humanlike tasks such as basic sorting of real world objects...
and they don't get all hot and bothered when they do non-machine like tasks, such as lifting big cars and things? Two reasons
Because "non-machine" like tasks has been done for a large number of years (it's not new)
From a technical (and object oriented:) point of view, once you have the machine to lift the big car, the code would look something like very_big_thing.lift(car); However, it is very difficult to actually recognise objects with a computer if you hook it up with a camera...
Apparently, RMS mentioned some pretty nasty (regardless if they are true) stuff about caldera: "Caldera's not a free software company at all. They are just a parasite. Who in the world is Ransom Love to have any ideas about what's good for our community?"
I've got a slipped disk. Have had it for two years (I'm twenty years old). That translated to intense back pain and intense (right) leg pain (as the disk pressed on my right leg nerve-I couldn't really walk straight or put my shoes on without hurting myself). I'm much better now, it almost doesn't bother me. Here's my advice:
Go to a physical therapist. Really helped me. I did intense physical therapy which involved neat stuff like massage (very nice, I might add), intense infared on my back, and more
Swim. If you live near the sea, go there every day. Swiming for 30 minutes a day will make your back feel a whole lot better. If you don't live near the sea, go to the nearest pool
Excercise. But not just any excersices (you can damage yourself more if you do the wrong ones): Learn from your physical therapist which excersices you are permitted to do. I had to do a particular set of excercises every two hours (yes every 2 hours). But they really helped.
Learn to live with it. Unfortunately, short of surgery, you must learn to live with it. You'll learn that you shouldn't say bend your back over but you should bend your knees instead and stuff like that.
However, all the stuff I mentioned above, allow me to have a normal life, with little back/leg pain.
I'm sorry for the very angry post, but I'm seeing some _so very wrong_ comments here, that I had to reply.
a) No business model? One word ppl: Microsoft. Microsoft is going to base their profits on subscription to services (be that office etc). I think that we can all admit that Microsoft knows their business management well.
b) Have any of you actually used nautilus? Nautilus is probably the only filemanager that I _like_ to use. I've tried kfm, konqueror, and win32 explorer, and nautilus is the only one I like. And it's very snappy on my p3-550 (should be too, I realise), but I don't have any performance problems. There are bugs, certainly, but can you all KDE people baching gnome say that KDE/konq hasn't crashed on you ever? I thought so. And it is also beautiful. I'm talking _really_ beautiful
c) We're talking about a company who really embraced open source and listened to the community, which was usually hostile. Remember the nautilus installfests/bugdays on irc? How many of you actually helped and participated?
d) I've actually used the eazel services. I find them very nice (personal opinion) with great potential
e) Hipocrites! Eazel was based on the success of the linux desktop. Eazel helped the gnome and the linux community in general. (you can run nautilus inside say kde or another desktok/wm. Can you run konq inside another environmnent without ending up with about 20 (exagerating) kde processess which don't die even if you kill konq?) When they opened up their paypal subscription (paypal@eazel.com) did any of you help? I send out $30 (best I could afford). And how can linux succeed when you can find the few pure linux games _pirated_ isos at irc channels?
f) Why are you all trying to bash this poor dying company? This could imply a failure of the open-source businesses. Instead try to help them (paypal@eazel.com). Or hope that Ximian can buy them (pretty cool). Eazel embraced the community; and all they got is flames. They listened to the users and changed aspects of nautilus according to the users demands (anyone running 1.0.3?).
So please no more flames, no more I don't you so's etc. Especially when everyone was excited/glad/etc when eazel was founded because linux finally gained some very experienced and talented ui designers. And we failed to support them.
For those of you bashing nautilus without even trying it, try it. Even under KDE. It will blow you away.
Disclaimer: I've used the command line since 1995 (not too much, I know). I now use gnome (+command line). I used to use KDE. I don't give a fuck what you're using, and don't really get how a 13 yr old moron can say (without any argument) that "kde is technically superior to gnome"/"is kool", or that gnome looks l33t etc.
It has 8MB of memory, can use both CF and SD slots simultaneously, it has 2MB of flash ram, runs palmos 3.5 (custom version of course) with an update for 4.0 in the works, takes four AAA batteries (more power) but they are interexchangeable with a recharcheagble battery, offers serial (i.e. slow !) connectivity, compatibility with TRGPro and palm III accessories, landscape mode, 33MHz dragonball processor and will cost $350 (you can preorder it at the pdamd link above). Seems like a very good pda... I've grown kinda attached to my visor deluxe with my keyboard and modules... I can't replace them all:(
To whom? Re:Another Benefit of Free software.
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I understand your argument completely, and it is a very valid one, but one may argue that it is this specific 'benefit' of Free Software (giving away your program open-source for free) that might make them go under. So it is a benefit to whom? Not to poor eazel I think...
TuxRacer is already available for Windows -- I know I've played it on my system. (It's an openGL application with standard C calls, not much more to needed to make it highly portable)...
You are right in a way, but bear in mind that tux-racer uses the cygwin api (the windows version even includes cygwin.dll!)
however stability doesn't really matter so much on home machines. As long as it can stay up for a couple of hours then it is good enough. Funny, I thought that the instability of windows as a desktop OS is one of the major factors pushing people to Linux.
Three hours stability is unacceptable to me. My laptop's uptime at the moment is 27 hours.
And I don't want to fuel it, but isn't it interesting that only/mostly debian users want deb to become the defacto standard? I haven't heard of many rpm users wishing to switch to deb.
Plus the author of the article does not seem to get the difference between apt and deb. And apt is being ported to use RPM (I believe that conectiva's linux distribution does this). Plus there's red carpet, rpmfind etc.
Now, I understand the advantages of a unified packaging/distribution format, but why not apt-deb and not apm-rpm? What about slackware or stampede?
A single format (like a single desktop) would wield some significant advantages. But isn't linux all about choice?
The only problem that i've got with debian (I'm a redhat user), is that it essentially requires a fast, cheap and permanent connection to the internet in order to get all the packages up2date (no pun intended). I don't have that connection (and not many people do outside the US).
Having oral sex is illegal in the state of Maryland. If you visit our fine state and your SO is feeling amorous, will you limit your pleasure on the basis that "it's the law"?
There's a known problem with 2.4.x and sun4c sparclinux users. The problem was first mentioned here. Basically the kernel cannot correctly map esp's dvma. I got a one line solution from uzi @ #sparc @ irc.openprojects.net.
Here it is:
edit arch/sparc/mm/sun4c.c
go down to sun4c_mapioaddr()
after the "unsigned long page_entry;", add:
if (!(physaddr & 0x0f000000)) physaddr |= 0x08000000;
That should get you booting.
I live/study in the UK, although I'm not British.
Ok, so most of us (including those who live in the UK) disagree with this. The question is what do we do now? How do we protest? How do we show our disagreement?
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"Do I have the right of freedom of speech ( as code has been found to be in some cases ) to utter an incorrect program?"
Incorrect? Of course! I can claim that the earth is flat all i want and that's definetly not illegal.
Insecure? Dunno... It is illegal to yell FIRE in a crowded theatre if there is none....
I know that this is a troll, but I'll bite: If you want to use Linux, you need to buy Linux-compatible hardware. Just like you wouldn't by a winprinter for a mac or an iPOD for win32 (yet), you shouldn't buy stuff that you know they don't work or work well under linux. This has been pretty well documented.
Instead of bitching around in message forums with your 24.6k modem connection, why don't you spend the time researching what works under linux and what doesn't. Maybe you would have found that there are card readers for every digital film format (compact flash, smartmedia, memorystick, sd etc) that work under linux.
Or maybe, if you can afford "the outrageous price" for the HP printer, you can afford a win32 CD and perhaps then _you_ could do something more than "practice networking skills and use the internet! Whopity-friggin doo!". Or even a mac (which are not expensive compared to a PC. definetly not -especially the imacs).
"I'll do everything within my power, be it donating money to carrying your kids to soccer practice, if you folks will just start writing drivers!"
How about stop bitching and be thankful to the people that _have_ written the million lines of code (including drivers) that make linux usable and enjoyable for us. Oh and start running windows. I have a feeling you two will get along just fine.
As in "modern greek" as well :) ?????
If you run the hotel, do you get to say to some of your paying customers not to use the pool?
Try the archos jukebox (http://www.archos.com )
A hard drive based solution, comes at 6GB-20GB flavors, works under Linux (I'm using it with the usb-storage module), and I got it for around £150 (british pounds).
Great for transfering data as well: Windows finds it as a normal drive, and I can mount it under linux (vfat).
Cheers,
Stefanos
I particularly liked this bit:
Annie? Oh my, you've grown!
It reminded me of this part from the phantom menace script (the abridged version:)
INT. TATOOINE - SOME SHOP WHERE JAKE LLOYD IS HELD SLAVE
JAKE LLOYD
Hi there! Golly I'm cute.
NATALIE PORTMAN
You certainly are, little boy.
JAKE LLOYD
I'm the only one disturbed by the fact that I'm gonna bone you in episode two?
:)
Seriously though, can't these people _act_? The first half of this teaser is crap!
And why did you discount java? Unless you're forced to use C/C++, you can code it in java, which provides well tested libraries... You can even compile it to native code if speed is such an issue...
This is slashdot. These things just do not compute.
Nope! I went to a p2p (p2p2001) conference in sweden in August, and there were lots of guys there giving presentations on JXTA... They were all using powerpoint 2000... Kinda interesting, don't you think?
All of you are wondering this, so mod me up! :)
Is ((Blizzard+Sam+SDL)==(Diablo2.linux))?
"The internet should be illegal. It's one big "p2p" network, after all.
FTP, HTTP, Telnet, Usenet, Gopher, POP, SMTP...and of course, IRC! "
Although I agree with the point you are trying to make, it is important to note that the internet (at least the examples you mentioned) are definetly NOT P2P. They rely on a server/client architecture (servers being apache, wu-ftp, ircd, sendmail, etc, clients being mozilla, ftp, x-chat, evolution etc)
Two reasons
Apparently, RMS mentioned some pretty nasty (regardless if they are true) stuff about caldera:
"Caldera's not a free software company at all. They are just a parasite. Who in the world is Ransom Love to have any ideas about what's good for our community?"
Go to a physical therapist. Really helped me. I did intense physical therapy which involved neat stuff like massage (very nice, I might add), intense infared on my back, and more
Swim. If you live near the sea, go there every day. Swiming for 30 minutes a day will make your back feel a whole lot better. If you don't live near the sea, go to the nearest pool
Excercise. But not just any excersices (you can damage yourself more if you do the wrong ones): Learn from your physical therapist which excersices you are permitted to do. I had to do a particular set of excercises every two hours (yes every 2 hours). But they really helped.
Learn to live with it. Unfortunately, short of surgery, you must learn to live with it. You'll learn that you shouldn't say bend your back over but you should bend your knees instead and stuff like that.
However, all the stuff I mentioned above, allow me to have a normal life, with little back/leg pain.
a) No business model? One word ppl: Microsoft. Microsoft is going to base their profits on subscription to services (be that office etc). I think that we can all admit that Microsoft knows their business management well.
b) Have any of you actually used nautilus? Nautilus is probably the only filemanager that I _like_ to use. I've tried kfm, konqueror, and win32 explorer, and nautilus is the only one I like. And it's very snappy on my p3-550 (should be too, I realise), but I don't have any performance problems. There are bugs, certainly, but can you all KDE people baching gnome say that KDE/konq hasn't crashed on you ever? I thought so. And it is also beautiful. I'm talking _really_ beautiful
c) We're talking about a company who really embraced open source and listened to the community, which was usually hostile. Remember the nautilus installfests/bugdays on irc? How many of you actually helped and participated?
d) I've actually used the eazel services. I find them very nice (personal opinion) with great potential
e) Hipocrites! Eazel was based on the success of the linux desktop. Eazel helped the gnome and the linux community in general. (you can run nautilus inside say kde or another desktok/wm. Can you run konq inside another environmnent without ending up with about 20 (exagerating) kde processess which don't die even if you kill konq?) When they opened up their paypal subscription (paypal@eazel.com) did any of you help? I send out $30 (best I could afford). And how can linux succeed when you can find the few pure linux games _pirated_ isos at irc channels?
f) Why are you all trying to bash this poor dying company? This could imply a failure of the open-source businesses. Instead try to help them (paypal@eazel.com). Or hope that Ximian can buy them (pretty cool). Eazel embraced the community; and all they got is flames. They listened to the users and changed aspects of nautilus according to the users demands (anyone running 1.0.3?).
So please no more flames, no more I don't you so's etc. Especially when everyone was excited/glad/etc when eazel was founded because linux finally gained some very experienced and talented ui designers. And we failed to support them.
For those of you bashing nautilus without even trying it, try it. Even under KDE. It will blow you away.
Disclaimer: I've used the command line since 1995 (not too much, I know). I now use gnome (+command line). I used to use KDE. I don't give a fuck what you're using, and don't really get how a 13 yr old moron can say (without any argument) that "kde is technically superior to gnome"/"is kool", or that gnome looks l33t etc.
http://www.pdamd.com/vertical/features/handera.xml
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cn/20010420/tc/a_palm _from_the_plains_1.html
http://www.maximumpc.com/content/2001/04/20/12868
It has 8MB of memory, can use both CF and SD slots simultaneously, it has 2MB of flash ram, runs palmos 3.5 (custom version of course) with an update for 4.0 in the works, takes four AAA batteries (more power) but they are interexchangeable with a recharcheagble battery, offers serial (i.e. slow !) connectivity, compatibility with TRGPro and palm III accessories, landscape mode, 33MHz dragonball processor and will cost $350 (you can preorder it at the pdamd link above). :(
Seems like a very good pda... I've grown kinda attached to my visor deluxe with my keyboard and modules... I can't replace them all
I understand your argument completely, and it is a very valid one, but one may argue that it is this specific 'benefit' of Free Software (giving away your program open-source for free) that might make them go under. So it is a benefit to whom? Not to poor eazel I think...
what's the downing-in-submissions dept. ? :)
TuxRacer is already available for Windows -- I know I've played it on my system. (It's an openGL application with standard C calls, not much more to needed to make it highly portable)...
You are right in a way, but bear in mind that tux-racer uses the cygwin api (the windows version even includes cygwin.dll!)
however stability doesn't really matter so much on home machines. As long as it can stay up for a couple of hours then it is good enough.
Funny, I thought that the instability of windows as a desktop OS is one of the major factors pushing people to Linux.
Three hours stability is unacceptable to me. My laptop's uptime at the moment is 27 hours.
And I don't want to fuel it, but isn't it interesting that only/mostly debian users want deb to become the defacto standard? I haven't heard of many rpm users wishing to switch to deb.
Plus the author of the article does not seem to get the difference between apt and deb. And apt is being ported to use RPM (I believe that conectiva's linux distribution does this). Plus there's red carpet, rpmfind etc.
Now, I understand the advantages of a unified packaging/distribution format, but why not apt-deb and not apm-rpm? What about slackware or stampede?
A single format (like a single desktop) would wield some significant advantages. But isn't linux all about choice?
The only problem that i've got with debian (I'm a redhat user), is that it essentially requires a fast, cheap and permanent connection to the internet in order to get all the packages up2date (no pun intended). I don't have that connection (and not many people do outside the US).
I'm a geek, i wouldn't know.
There's a known problem with 2.4.x and sun4c sparclinux users. The problem was first mentioned here. Basically the kernel cannot correctly map esp's dvma. I got a one line solution from uzi @ #sparc @ irc.openprojects.net .
Here it is:
edit arch/sparc/mm/sun4c.c
go down to sun4c_mapioaddr()
after the "unsigned long page_entry;", add:
if (!(physaddr & 0x0f000000)) physaddr |= 0x08000000;
That should get you booting.
I live/study in the UK, although I'm not British.
Ok, so most of us (including those who live in the UK) disagree with this. The question is what do we do now? How do we protest? How do we show our disagreement?
We can split them into two teams, call them autobots and descepticons and we'll have our very own transformers!