Unless one is in an early stage startup and needs the Android revenue to afford the $1250 startup cost for iOS development ($650 Mac mini, $500 iPad, $100 certificate).
Dude, if you can't afford to invest $1250 in your startup, you can't afford to invest in your startup. The guy who rides the ice cream bike around the 'hood had a higher startup cost what with the custom cooler-bike, dry ice, ice cream, and business license.
Serious question: How does Win8's fragmentation figure in your decision to potentially develop for their mobile platforms?
From what I can tell, to have full support across all of their portable devices, you'll need to have 3 versions of each app. One for the Windows Phone 8, one for Windows RT 8, and one for x86/x64 Windows 8. I've seen reports that RT tablets won't be able to run phone apps and phones won't be able to run RT apps so that means two ARM builds. And there are also a lot of x86 tablets in the pipeline that will be running the full x86 32 and 64 bit versions of Windows 8 so you'll need to cover them, too.
Seems like that would be a significant barrier to entry unless Microsoft has provided some pretty strong tools to port between platforms.
That wooshing sound is my point going over your head. Nothing I said had anything to do with the number of apps available.
iOS = Phone and tablet. Android = Phone and tablet.
Full Windows 8 = Desktop and tablet.
Windows 8 RT = Tablet only.
With three of those platforms, you get two devices sharing a common base of applications. With one of those platforms, there is no crossover. Windows 8 RT does not share an application base with the phone. It does not share an application base with the desktop. It compliments nothing. It doesn't give you a bigger phone. It doesn't give you a smaller desktop. You have an app for your phone, a different app for your desktop, and yet another app for your tablet. Windows Phone and Windows RT are orphans. Do you see what I'm saying now?
If RT could run Phone apps, I wouldn't be typing right now. It would be a bold and smart move by Microsoft. They'd be the only company offering consumers a choice between pairing the tablet with the phone or with the desktop. But that's not what they've done.
Oh, I see. So I can run my Win 8 Pro apps on my Win 8 RT tablet? No. Can I run my Win 8 Phone apps on my Win 8 RT tablet? No. In RT, Microsoft has created an environment completely distinct from both their desktop and phone platforms.
Ya lost me, Microsoft. Why would I want three separate platforms between my desktop, mobile, and semi-mobile devices? This doesn't make sense. With either Android or iOS, I can have the same apps on my phone and my tablet. With "real" Windows 8, I can have the same apps on my desktop and tablet. I can see solid cases for either of those scenarios. What I can't see is an advantage to isolating the tablet from both platforms.
What does RT provide me as a consumer? As far as I can tell, it just adds complexity.
And they make money when the person who stole the phone opens an account. Or, more likely, the phone will change hands 2 or 3 times before someone tries to activate it.
"I bought this phone on ebay!" (Probably true.)
What's the company going to do? Launch an investigation? Fat chance. Do you think Barney Fife is going to fly in from Mayberry to investigate? Fat chance.
I don't get why this is "urgent". It's not a new issue. It's not unknown. It's not unexpected. Seems more like a perfectly normal investigation to gather data to help better understand and compensate for a known phenomenon.
One day they're at the top, the next day they say they're getting out of the PC business, then they say they were just kidding about that and they're back in the PC business. If I were purchasing equipment for my company, there's no way in Hell I'd buy HP. I'm not buying computers from a company that can't decide whether or not they want to be in the business of selling me computers.
I saw Apple mentioned above so I'll touch on my feelings about them. They've made it very clear the last few years that they have no interest in the corporate or professional markets. They killed their server and RAID products years ago. That ended their footprint in IT which is how you get your equipment into the corporate world. More recently, they neutered Final Cut. They spent years building that product and actually became the go-to platform for the video production industry and now editors are scrambling to switch over to Avid before their next hardware cycle because they don't feel like they can count on Apple to produce a pro-quality application in the future.
Apple's decisions make perfect sense from a financial standpoint. IT departments are tough, demanding customers. Low margin and high maintenance. As for the professional market, Apple might sell xx,xxx copies of FCP at a thousand bucks each where they'll sell xxx,xxx copies of FCX at $300 to casual users. Companies and professionals tend to spend once and use their equipment for years before spending any more money. Casual users are a constant stream of small purchases through itunes, peripherals, phones, etc. The "lifestyle" customer is a steadier flow of income from multiple streams.
But, for another grand or two, he could have bought a brand new 40+ MPG IC vehicle with a warranty, all kinds of new safety features, and a range of hundreds of miles with a "recharge" time of about 5 minutes.
I don't understand why this is a story at all. People have been building short range electric vehicles since the 70s. Unless the summary was supposed to read 450 mile range with a 300 mile practical limit, I don't see what's exciting about this.
But they're still above my "fun toy" expense cap. If the MakiBox ever goes into production, I'll probably buy one just for fun but $300 is as much as I'd want to spend. It's cool to have the potential to just print off any little parts you need for a project but the reality is that it takes a lot of time to design objects. It would take hundreds of hours of practice to get competent at it and thousands to get good.
With every blu-ray holding as much as 50 gigs of data, you'd be surprised how much data average people have stored in their homes. I just happen to have mine consolidated.
Funny thing is I remember back when I worked at a university, our Remote Sensing and Optics department was gathering something like 40 megabytes of data every single day and it seemed like a ridiculous amount of data. A group was working on a project to build a 4 terabyte storage system.
Heh. That reminds me of a time maybe ten years ago when a coworker made the offhand comment that he was glad the vending machine had root beer. "Why's that?" "Well, I drink caffeinated stuff all morning and I get jittery if I drink caffeine all day." "Barq's has caffeine." "That would explain a lot."
I've had to turn my "good ear" to quiet people since my early 20s thanks to countless hours in bands so I can sympathize but there are a number of reasons why you don't see the kind of control your asking for. The most obvious is that most people who need these devices are not technically savvy and would either be turned off by the complicated process of adjusting their hearing aid(s) or would just ignore the feature. You're talking about something that is on the wish list of a very small percentage of a very small market. In 30 or 40 years, that will change as today's tech addicts age and expand the market so that there is enough demand to create the product. But, right now, the market is mostly people who are in their 70s and up. Try to imagine your grandma tweaking her hearing aid with her iphone.
Also, there is a lot that goes into setting up one of those high end hearing aids. I'm blind as a bat and, while I know a lot about vision correction, I know that there's no way I'd be able to grind lenses as well as a pro. It takes a lot of training and experience to do that kind of thing. Something that drives me nuts is those racks of "reading glasses" at the drug store. Sure they're cheap but spending the money for an eye exam and lenses that actually match the individual correction requirements for each eye is soooo much better. $5 vs. $200 is a no brainer for me. I want to see and I want to see well. (Actually, my glasses are closer to a grand because of my insane prescription but I'm pricing it at what a "drug store" buyer would be paying.) Your "earbuds and a microphone" concept is like drug store reading glasses. It's cheap and better than nothing but a far cry from what's possible.
FWIW, most cell phones do support hearing aids in that they'll provide audio to the hearing aid using various methods. Look at the specs of the phones to see which phones support what methods. They'll say "M4" "T3" "T4" etc. to indicate which hearing aid(s) they're compatible with.
The guy's clearly out of the loop. The process began a while ago. CVS, Big Lots, and the like have been selling low-end Android tablets for $75-100 (depending on whether they're on sale that week) for about a year. The only new part is having ICS on them. And that you can get a 1920x1080 tablet in the $160 range. I'm thinking of picking up one of those to hold me over until the 2560x1600 tablets come out next year.
Unless one is in an early stage startup and needs the Android revenue to afford the $1250 startup cost for iOS development ($650 Mac mini, $500 iPad, $100 certificate).
Dude, if you can't afford to invest $1250 in your startup, you can't afford to invest in your startup. The guy who rides the ice cream bike around the 'hood had a higher startup cost what with the custom cooler-bike, dry ice, ice cream, and business license.
Serious question: How does Win8's fragmentation figure in your decision to potentially develop for their mobile platforms?
From what I can tell, to have full support across all of their portable devices, you'll need to have 3 versions of each app. One for the Windows Phone 8, one for Windows RT 8, and one for x86/x64 Windows 8. I've seen reports that RT tablets won't be able to run phone apps and phones won't be able to run RT apps so that means two ARM builds. And there are also a lot of x86 tablets in the pipeline that will be running the full x86 32 and 64 bit versions of Windows 8 so you'll need to cover them, too.
Seems like that would be a significant barrier to entry unless Microsoft has provided some pretty strong tools to port between platforms.
That wooshing sound is my point going over your head. Nothing I said had anything to do with the number of apps available.
iOS = Phone and tablet.
Android = Phone and tablet.
Full Windows 8 = Desktop and tablet.
Windows 8 RT = Tablet only.
With three of those platforms, you get two devices sharing a common base of applications. With one of those platforms, there is no crossover. Windows 8 RT does not share an application base with the phone. It does not share an application base with the desktop. It compliments nothing. It doesn't give you a bigger phone. It doesn't give you a smaller desktop. You have an app for your phone, a different app for your desktop, and yet another app for your tablet. Windows Phone and Windows RT are orphans. Do you see what I'm saying now?
If RT could run Phone apps, I wouldn't be typing right now. It would be a bold and smart move by Microsoft. They'd be the only company offering consumers a choice between pairing the tablet with the phone or with the desktop. But that's not what they've done.
Oh, I see. So I can run my Win 8 Pro apps on my Win 8 RT tablet? No. Can I run my Win 8 Phone apps on my Win 8 RT tablet? No. In RT, Microsoft has created an environment completely distinct from both their desktop and phone platforms.
Ya lost me, Microsoft. Why would I want three separate platforms between my desktop, mobile, and semi-mobile devices? This doesn't make sense. With either Android or iOS, I can have the same apps on my phone and my tablet. With "real" Windows 8, I can have the same apps on my desktop and tablet. I can see solid cases for either of those scenarios. What I can't see is an advantage to isolating the tablet from both platforms.
What does RT provide me as a consumer? As far as I can tell, it just adds complexity.
I shouldn't have to lock my car but I lock it and most people would agree that I'd be stupid if I left my car unlocked.
Yay, car analogy!
And they make money when the person who stole the phone opens an account. Or, more likely, the phone will change hands 2 or 3 times before someone tries to activate it.
"I bought this phone on ebay!" (Probably true.)
What's the company going to do? Launch an investigation? Fat chance. Do you think Barney Fife is going to fly in from Mayberry to investigate? Fat chance.
They're waiting for a safe and simple way to convert them to cash. When that exists, the value will plummet as everyone tries to sell at once.
The Penthouse Letters. It was very informative.
I see what you did there!
I don't get why this is "urgent". It's not a new issue. It's not unknown. It's not unexpected. Seems more like a perfectly normal investigation to gather data to help better understand and compensate for a known phenomenon.
One day they're at the top, the next day they say they're getting out of the PC business, then they say they were just kidding about that and they're back in the PC business. If I were purchasing equipment for my company, there's no way in Hell I'd buy HP. I'm not buying computers from a company that can't decide whether or not they want to be in the business of selling me computers.
I saw Apple mentioned above so I'll touch on my feelings about them. They've made it very clear the last few years that they have no interest in the corporate or professional markets. They killed their server and RAID products years ago. That ended their footprint in IT which is how you get your equipment into the corporate world. More recently, they neutered Final Cut. They spent years building that product and actually became the go-to platform for the video production industry and now editors are scrambling to switch over to Avid before their next hardware cycle because they don't feel like they can count on Apple to produce a pro-quality application in the future.
Apple's decisions make perfect sense from a financial standpoint. IT departments are tough, demanding customers. Low margin and high maintenance. As for the professional market, Apple might sell xx,xxx copies of FCP at a thousand bucks each where they'll sell xxx,xxx copies of FCX at $300 to casual users. Companies and professionals tend to spend once and use their equipment for years before spending any more money. Casual users are a constant stream of small purchases through itunes, peripherals, phones, etc. The "lifestyle" customer is a steadier flow of income from multiple streams.
Something to go with my eggs.
But, for another grand or two, he could have bought a brand new 40+ MPG IC vehicle with a warranty, all kinds of new safety features, and a range of hundreds of miles with a "recharge" time of about 5 minutes.
I don't understand why this is a story at all. People have been building short range electric vehicles since the 70s. Unless the summary was supposed to read 450 mile range with a 300 mile practical limit, I don't see what's exciting about this.
Because, citizen. Stop resisting!
But they're still above my "fun toy" expense cap. If the MakiBox ever goes into production, I'll probably buy one just for fun but $300 is as much as I'd want to spend. It's cool to have the potential to just print off any little parts you need for a project but the reality is that it takes a lot of time to design objects. It would take hundreds of hours of practice to get competent at it and thousands to get good.
I'm intrigued by this $10 Suckbot.
What? Oh. Once again, misread the summary and disappointed by the actual article.
26tb effective using 14 2tb drives, unRAID, and the FS of a convicted murderer.
With every blu-ray holding as much as 50 gigs of data, you'd be surprised how much data average people have stored in their homes. I just happen to have mine consolidated.
Besides, why would I want to be average?
Funny thing is I remember back when I worked at a university, our Remote Sensing and Optics department was gathering something like 40 megabytes of data every single day and it seemed like a ridiculous amount of data. A group was working on a project to build a 4 terabyte storage system.
Today, I have a 26tb array to hold my media.
That's a lot of porn.
Heh. That reminds me of a time maybe ten years ago when a coworker made the offhand comment that he was glad the vending machine had root beer. "Why's that?" "Well, I drink caffeinated stuff all morning and I get jittery if I drink caffeine all day." "Barq's has caffeine." "That would explain a lot."
I've had to turn my "good ear" to quiet people since my early 20s thanks to countless hours in bands so I can sympathize but there are a number of reasons why you don't see the kind of control your asking for. The most obvious is that most people who need these devices are not technically savvy and would either be turned off by the complicated process of adjusting their hearing aid(s) or would just ignore the feature. You're talking about something that is on the wish list of a very small percentage of a very small market. In 30 or 40 years, that will change as today's tech addicts age and expand the market so that there is enough demand to create the product. But, right now, the market is mostly people who are in their 70s and up. Try to imagine your grandma tweaking her hearing aid with her iphone.
Also, there is a lot that goes into setting up one of those high end hearing aids. I'm blind as a bat and, while I know a lot about vision correction, I know that there's no way I'd be able to grind lenses as well as a pro. It takes a lot of training and experience to do that kind of thing. Something that drives me nuts is those racks of "reading glasses" at the drug store. Sure they're cheap but spending the money for an eye exam and lenses that actually match the individual correction requirements for each eye is soooo much better. $5 vs. $200 is a no brainer for me. I want to see and I want to see well. (Actually, my glasses are closer to a grand because of my insane prescription but I'm pricing it at what a "drug store" buyer would be paying.) Your "earbuds and a microphone" concept is like drug store reading glasses. It's cheap and better than nothing but a far cry from what's possible.
FWIW, most cell phones do support hearing aids in that they'll provide audio to the hearing aid using various methods. Look at the specs of the phones to see which phones support what methods. They'll say "M4" "T3" "T4" etc. to indicate which hearing aid(s) they're compatible with.
You just need more monitors. It's almost manageable at 7680x1440. The GM version, that is.
The guy's clearly out of the loop. The process began a while ago. CVS, Big Lots, and the like have been selling low-end Android tablets for $75-100 (depending on whether they're on sale that week) for about a year. The only new part is having ICS on them. And that you can get a 1920x1080 tablet in the $160 range. I'm thinking of picking up one of those to hold me over until the 2560x1600 tablets come out next year.
Someone alert Al Bundy! He won't want to miss this.