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gspec writes "A little background about me: 36-year-old computer engineer working in the Bay Area. While I bring in a comfortable salary, I consider myself an underachiever, and my career is stagnant (I have only been promoted four times in my 12-year career). I have led a couple projects, but I am not in any sort of leadership/management position. I realize I need to do something to enhance my career, and unfortunately, going back to school is not an option. One thing I can do is to read more quality books. My question: which books, of any type or genre, have had a significant impact on your life?"

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  1. How to win friends and influence people by Niris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How to win friends and influence people by Dale Carnegie. Great pointers for talking to people. Also I loved the art of war.

    1. Re:How to win friends and influence people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seconded. The message may bother some geeks, but reality is not always an easy pill to swallow. We like to think that good logic is sufficient, but it's not.

    2. Re:How to win friends and influence people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I always preferred Zapp Brannigan's Big Book of War

    3. Re:How to win friends and influence people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gods Debris by Scott Adams.. not for any technical reason, it's just a great book.

      Managing people isn't all it's cracked up to be. Enjoy your friends and family, they're better than any book, and they're a worth replacement for any book or job.

      Catcha: avoided

    4. Re:How to win friends and influence people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From New Recruit to High Flyer by Hugh Karseras. It's a bit oriented toward financial analysts, but it contains loads of good advice for people starting or re-starting a career.

    5. Re:How to win friends and influence people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On a related note - "How to Talk so Kids will Listen, and Listen so Kids will Talk" is also a pretty good book on communication.

      Geared towards working/talking with children, but a lot of the stuff they talk about works quite well in the business world.

      For that matter, some of Covey's "7 Habits" advice is very good regarding communication - lots of geeks let you get 2 words out, and then assume they know all about your problem, already know the solution, and can't wait for you to shut the fuck up so they can dazzle you with their brilliant solution to a problem you haven't even begun to explain. This turns out to be a large part of why geeks tend to be unpromotable and avoided like the plague.

      David Allen's Getting Things Done (GTD) book(s) are pretty good for some practical advice and techniques for managing a crazy workload, as well.

    6. Re:How to win friends and influence people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      seconded

    7. Re:How to win friends and influence people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Definitely!

    8. Re:How to win friends and influence people by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 1

      Kif! Open hailing frequencies for my victory yodel...

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    9. Re:How to win friends and influence people by xclr8r · · Score: 2

      I'll add this website since there's bound to be a ton of titles listed. You search for your title and enter your region and it tells you the closest library that has the title. http://www.worldcat.org/

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    10. Re:How to win friends and influence people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How to win friends and influence people by Dale Carnegie. Great pointers for talking to people. Also I loved the art of war.

      I'd agree with this suggestion; in addition a book that's done wonders for ME, at least, was by Don Miguel Ruiz called The Four Agreements. I wholly recommend the Audible version as is read by Peter Coyote, His voice, reading this book; excellent!!

    11. Re:How to win friends and influence people by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      Second. "The Art of War".

      And get the translation by Thomas Cleary. By far the best. Where anything is ambiguous, he includes several possible alternate translations.

    12. Re:How to win friends and influence people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read Dale Carnegies book. Later I heard he was a mason.

    13. Re:How to win friends and influence people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about writing a book?!

  2. Books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1984. First post beotches!

    1. Re:Books by icebraining · · Score: 1

      I don't know this "first post" book, but I have to agree with the Orwell recommendation. Both 1984 and Animal Farm should be read by everyone.

      I also recommend this podcast of Christopher Hitchens discussing Orwell (oh, and Econtalk is nice overall too): http://youtu.be/QSNKP33ph_Q
      I haven't had a chance to read Why Orwell Matters, though.

    2. Re:Books by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1

      No. Not everyone. Specifically not the kind of politician that thinks they make great manifestos. (Eg the British Labour Party).

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    3. Re:Books by WaywardGeek · · Score: 2

      I feel that I should be able to offer insightful advice to this question. After all, I spent the first 14 years after college working in Silicon Valley, though I have now worked 12 years for a company I founded in NC. I always had difficulty reading, but lately I've read about a book a week, by converting them to text, converting them to sound with the Mary TTS text-to-speech system, and blasting them into my ears at 3X speedup. While not literary for most of my life, I am now in a position where I've read far more than most people. It's weird, but now I'm "literary".

      I would have to say that the fact that previously I could not read well had the most profound influence on my life. I also could not remember stuff. So, for example, this morning my daughter asked me how fast she'd be going if she launched down the zip-line I helped put together last weekend. This insane device drops about 23 feet over a 100 foot run, but has an industrial strength break to stop you before slamming into the tree at the bottom of the hill. I can't remember sh-t, especially formulas like how fast things go. So, I integrated in my head to get v = Gt, then D = 1/2 Gt^2, which is about 16 t^2, in feet/second. So, t^2 = 23/16 ~= 24/16 = 1.5. Since speed = integral(acceleration), and then I made a mistake and guessed you'd be going about 1.5*32 feet per second, or 48 fps, instead of 39fps. I told her after a few seconds that she'd be going 33 mph, or enough to be really really sorry if you hit that tree. Close enough to the 29 mph more accurate number. This is what I do normally in a few seconds, mistakes and all.

      My point is I didn't get any of that analytical skill through reading. Just the opposite. Now that I'm reading like a fiend doesn't seem to really help my value as a geek. I'd recommend ditching books for a couple years, and seeing what you can do with your brain on the problems in front of you.

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    4. Re:Books by icebraining · · Score: 1

      Ditching books to improve on a skill that even machines have doesn't seem a very good use of my time. I prefer to enhance my proficiency on what can't be accomplished by plugging some numbers on Wolfram|Alpha.

      For example, reading books is what allowed me to understand your post and compose this reply; even if I'm still deficient in the subject, it has enabled opportunities that would never be available otherwise.

  3. Not trying to be negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure if a book or school is going to do anything for you. You should choose a path (or different field) that you are passionate about and you will be driven to achieve.

    That being said, Code Complete by Steve McConnell. Read it now.

  4. The Three most Influential books I ever read. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are three books that I found back in High School that shook my world view to its foundation.

    First, Atlas Shrugged.

    Second, The Illuminatus Trilogy.

    Third, I received a little pamphlet in the mail from the Sub-Genius Foundation, informing me The World Ends Tomorrow, and You May Die!

    1. Re:The Three most Influential books I ever read. by frAme57 · · Score: 1

      Then you should read The Book of the Subgenius. When the sex goddess space aliens finally arrive, you'll want to have reservations on their saucers.

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  5. The Case For Mars by BMOC · · Score: 2

    "The Case For Mars" Robert Zubrin

    When humanity stops looking towards a viable future of expansion, it always stagnates. This book puts humanity's future in perspective

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  6. Anything from Packt by turkeyfeathers · · Score: 2

    Everything I've read from Packt rates 8/10+ in my book.

    1. Re:Anything from Packt by electrosoccertux · · Score: 1

      Everything I've read from Packt rates 8/10+ in my book.

      but should I read your book?

      on topic:
      1984 made me paranoid as hell.
      but as another /.'er pointed out, ONLY THE PARANOID SURVIVE!!!!!

      This was encouragement in the wrong direction for me.
      Yes they are monitoring everybody. But if you practice love, peace, patience...there is no law against these things. Therein lies true peace, because happiness doesn't come from liberty, temporary safety, Benjamin Franklin, or deserve neithers. ???
      Profit.

      Irregardless, it's a good book and I'd still recommend reading it.

    2. Re:Anything from Packt by Internetuser1248 · · Score: 1

      Never was a big fan of Orwell. I read a few of his books and found them all kind of depressing and not as groundbreakingly original as everyone else finds them. I think 'A Brave New World' was much more original and thought provoking than 1984. 'Animal farm' is just patronising and 'Coming Up for Air' was just bleak.

      I also should mention:

      Gödel, Escher, Bach - Douglas Hofstadter
      Everything Douglas Adams wrote
      Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card (actually it was the later books in the Ender series that really influenced me, the first one is just the hook)
      The Bible (anyone who doesn't put this on their list is interpreting the question differently to me. I am not religious)
      Some children's book about a bear I forget the name of (first book I ever read)


      PS. Irregardless - not a word

  7. Arthur C Clarke by KBentley57 · · Score: 2

    I've read most all of his books, starting in high school. I doubt I would have half the imagination or curiosity about space as I do now without some of his ideas.

  8. Dostoyesvsky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Notes from the Underground
    Brothers Karamazov
    Crime and Punishment

    1. Re:Dostoyesvsky by invid · · Score: 1

      bump

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    2. Re:Dostoyesvsky by icebraining · · Score: 1

      The Adolescent is a good read as well.

  9. 7 habits of highly effective people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    internalize

  10. I can't explain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Puzzle Palace and Body of Secrets

  11. Good start... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Getting things done
    Ender's game
    Short history of nearly everything
    The above mentioned How to win friends and influence people is also very good
    Red queen

    1. Re:Good start... by Fallingcow · · Score: 1

      Ender's game

      Seriously? Might as well throw The Hunger Games and Harry Potter on the list too, then.

      It's decent juvi-fic, but life altering?

  12. American Pratcical Navigator by ISoldat53 · · Score: 3

    by Bowditch

    1. Re:American Pratcical Navigator by LF11 · · Score: 1
      Also the book about Nathaniel Bowditch, "Carry On, Mr. Bowditch," by Jean Lee Latham. One of the best and most enlightening books I have ever read.

      cej102937

  13. Malazan Book of the Fallen by GeneralTurgidson · · Score: 0

    I was looking to get into an epic fantasy, and I got a lot more than I asked for. Malazan is huge, and it touches on so many aspects of human nature. The series can be seen as a debate about everything, from poverty, to war, to politics... So much is touched by that book. It really gives a different viewpoint on what is really good and what is really evil. It's also jammed pack with action and intrigue. I personally hated GM's Song of Fire and Ice series (especially after book 3), and I found Malazan to be exactly what I wanted out of a fantasy epic.

    1. Re:Malazan Book of the Fallen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll second this, if only because it was such a fucking amazing series. First book is a little slow and hard to get into... second book (Deadhouse Gates) through the end is absolutely fucking brilliant.

      I don't think of these as particularly "life changing," but they were great stories all the same.

  14. A bunch! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But I would say the absolute biggest one was Sophie's World by Gaarder. I had already read a few philosophy books, or I should say books ABOUT philosophy or philosophers, but this one actually made me understand the intrinsic concept of what philosophy is.
    One of the best introductory books (in all subjects in general) that I have ever read.

  15. Ouch by MyLongNickName · · Score: 3, Funny

    I dropped a phone book on my foot once.

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  16. Easy list by Sparticus789 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Foundation Series by Isaac Asimov is and will always be my favorite series of books. Those are the first real science fiction books I read, they were welcome reprieve from those terrible books I had to read in high school.

    Dune by Frank Herbert. The sheer scope of events which take place in this sage showed me how insignificant daily events really were. While it was fictional, the way the Shaddam, the Baron Harkonnen, and Muad'Dib feel about their subjects/followers/slaves gave me a hard dose of reality. There are a lot of people out there, and most of them have no idea that you just got picked on walking to class, dropped some spaghetti on your shirt, or had a really crappy day.

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    1. Re:Easy list by Antipater · · Score: 1

      What about when I choked on a pretzel?

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    2. Re:Easy list by CastrTroy · · Score: 2

      Maybe it's just me, but we read some truly awesome stuff in high school. Here's a list just to name a few.

      Lord Of The Flies
      The Chrysalids
      To Kill a Mockingbird
      Wuthering Heights
      Cue For Treason
      The Hobbit
      1984*
      Brave New World*


      It's been a while so I don't remember all the assigned books, but I only really remember one which was really bad, plus all the Shakespeare, which I never really cared for. Most of my classmates didn't like Wuthering Heights, but I think a lot of that was just prejudice against the book and they never really gave it a fair chance. The ones with the * were books where we got to pick anything we wanted to read, and there were a few other of those as well. I'm not sure what other schools do, but my highschool had some pretty good books.

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    3. Re:Easy list by JWW · · Score: 1

      Agree on Dune.

      But, unlike you I did not read the Foundation books until later in life and frankly I think they're a little overrated.

    4. Re:Easy list by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      The Foundation books are very much a product of their time. I enjoy them in the same way that I enjoy the Skylark series: they give a view of what people in a certain period in the past thought that the future would be like.

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    5. Re:Easy list by westlake · · Score: 1

      The Foundation Series by Isaac Asimov is and will always be my favorite series of books.

      The future defined by back stage manipulators answerable to no one. Not my cup of tea.

    6. Re:Easy list by stanlyb · · Score: 1

      What about "Dosadi experiment"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dosadi_Experiment

    7. Re:Easy list by iamnobody2 · · Score: 1

      oh we were all deeply concerned about that bit

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    8. Re:Easy list by lessthan · · Score: 2

      Yet somehow strangely familiar...

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    9. Re:Easy list by fadethepolice · · Score: 1

      I still re-read one or two of these novels a year. Another set I found to be very profound were Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion by Dan Simmons.

    10. Re:Easy list by Sparticus789 · · Score: 1

      You must have missed that whole thing about the Mule.

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    11. Re:Easy list by westlake · · Score: 1

      You must have missed that whole thing about the Mule.

      The Mule is the only three-dimensional character in the entire series. He is also, quite literally, short-lived and sterile.

    12. Re:Easy list by Sparticus789 · · Score: 1

      The Mule was present throughout the second half of Foundation and Empire and the first half of Second Foundation. Meaning the Mule took up 1/3 of the original series. 33% of the series != "short-lived" You must have been reading Hello Kitty Island Adventure on accident.

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  17. Systems thinking by Nibbler(C) · · Score: 1

    As computer engineer, you're a little on your way there, this will give you idea how to apply it on other aspects of your life. Try Peter Senge's The Fifth Discipline.

  18. Asimov by narf0708 · · Score: 1

    Any of Isaac Asimov's books and/or short stories. The one with the most impact upon my life and personality was probably Foundation, along with the rest of the Foundation series.

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  19. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Okay. "Mere Christianity" and "The Problem of Pain"

  20. Pretentious book that doesn't answer question by kamapuaa · · Score: 1

    The life changer for me was George R. R. Martin's Game of Thrones. Actually I like the HBO version better because of the nudity.

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  21. Heh. by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Penthouse Letters. It was very informative.

    1. Re:Heh. by Life2Short · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Dear Sirs, I never believed the stories in you magazine until one day..."

  22. Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I read 'How to Get Rich in 10 days" when I was 17 and I have never needed to work a single day.

  23. As far as technical books are concerned... by sudden.zero · · Score: 1

    ...I love Black Art of 3D Game Programming: Writing Your Own High-Speed 3D Polygon Video Games in C http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1571690042/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

    1. Re:As far as technical books are concerned... by JGuru42 · · Score: 1

      This for certain. I own a copy of this book and read it quite a few times.

      The other one that holds that honor is http://www.amazon.com/Michael-Abrashs-Graphics-Programming-Special/dp/1576101746

      I learned a tremendous amount from this book on how to optimize code. It's say it's shaped my whole programming viewpoint.

  24. Heinlein, Asimov by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a kid, I read many many Heinlein books, the Robot series and Foundations series by Asimov. Was a fan of Stephen King. Not much else.

  25. Every book in high that you were supposed to read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    is worth re-reading.

    Orwell, 1984 and Animal Farm are worth re-reading.
    Austen, Jane. Chick can write.
    Cervantes. Might want to read this in a reading group.
    Conrad, The Secret Agent, why was it the Unabombers favorite book?
    Tolstoy, War and Peace. Not long enough.
    Fitzgerald, The Great Gatsby.
    Jack London
    Twain

    Skip Salinger. Re-reading Heller isn't as much fun as the first time.

  26. Moneyball by alen · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's amazing what billy beanne has done on a tiny budget and going against what all the experts said

    In the end it's about using data rather than hunches and old wives' tales to make business decisions

    1. Re:Moneyball by cojsl · · Score: 1

      In addition to Micheal Lewis' excellent Moneyball, his Liar's Poker and The Big Short are also great reads.

  27. Two golfers by BaverBud · · Score: 5, Interesting

    (This is not my joke/story, just paraphrasing what I remember)

    Two golfers had been meeting weekly for years - lets call them Joe and Bob. Joe started to notice one day that Bob was getting a lot better. So Joe asked Bob what he was doing, and Bob replied that he was taking some golf classes on the weekends.

    Joe, not wanting to be outdone, bought a golf self-improvement book. And gave it to Bob, complimenting him on his desire to improve.

    A few weeks later, Bob was back to his old self, and Joe was happily able to compete again.


    Moral of the story: When Joe bought Bob the book, Bob stopped practicing and started reading. Don't substitute reading for doing.

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    1. Re:Two golfers by CastrTroy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is very true. I like cycling and one thing that always comes up on cycling forums when people ask how they can improve, is to spend more time in the saddle. There's very little training alternates forms of training (or reading) can do to compare to spending 5 hours straight on a real ride. I know a lot of people in university did well in all their classes, learned everything they were supposed to, but couldn't actually program that well. Books are a good starting off point, to let you know what's possible, but you always have to follow up with using whatever you have learned for a real life project.

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    2. Re:Two golfers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Proving once again that platitudes are the hemeroids to logic's ass.

      Book readin' t'isn't fer jest schoolin' and sich. Ya'll kin learn a lot from books.

    3. Re:Two golfers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sir, what is your advice for me?

      I learn to read foreign languages.... um...

    4. Re:Two golfers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Suggestions for:

      Practicing managing?

      Making friends and influencing people?

  28. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Grayhand · · Score: 4, Funny

    Atlas Shrugged fantastic book Atlas Shrugged part 2 is in theaters today as luck would have it

    Paul Ryan is on Slashdot?

  29. Charlie M by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tips on how to deal with bad management.

  30. Scientific Magazines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What Books Have Had a Significant Impact On Your Life?

    What about scientific and geographic magazines? They had a profound effect on my adolescent years. Particularly the picture essays on the Natives of the South Pacific.

  31. Read Player One by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Helps me avoid playing MMO's.

  32. Some... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The C Programming Language - Kernighan and Ritchie
    The Design of the Unix Operating System - Bach
    Computer Networks - Tannenbaum
    The Art Of Computer Programming - Knuth
    Security Engineering - Anderson
    Godel Escher and Bach - Hofstader
    The Demon Haunted World - Sagan
    The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy - Adams
    Adolph Hitler, My Part In His Downfall - Milligan

    1. Re:Some... by Pseudonym · · Score: 2

      Goedel Escher Bach is the reason I picked this handle. That was 25 years ago; has it really been that long?

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    2. Re:Some... by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 2

      I was going to suggest many of those. My few additions:

      Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. No explanation, just go read it.

      Milgram Obedience Studies - Groupthink. For obvious reasons.

      The Fountainhead - individualism to a limited extent is a positive thing, but Atlas Shrugged just punches the idea into the ground repeatedly. Roark is still an inspiration in my programming. Bag the ideology and all the idiots who reply based on ideology. I stopped reading for a few years after that one.

      Fierce Invalids Home from Hot Climates - Tom Robbins. I read a page at random from hundreds of books over several years. This one got me reading again. I'd say that was a significant impact.

      Consciousness Explained - Daniel C. Dennett - it's a little out of date at this point, but pretty much relevant.

      Rousseau - The social contact. Helps navigate the coworker waters.

      Survival of the Sickest - Moalem. Interesting look at why we are the way we are.

      Curiously, each of these has made me a better employed programmer. Each has its own construct of the universe. When certain issues or problems come up, these models help put ideas in context so they can be explained. A framework for all situations.

      Don't forget to learn a foreign language, or refresh it if you took it a long time ago. Different languages have different ways of describing the same thing.French and Japanese for the niche, Spanish and Chinese for the mass market, German and/or something Nordic for the "origin of English" perspective, or if you want to change your way of life something truly obscure.

    3. Re:Some... by FrangoAssado · · Score: 1

      May I add:

      Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs - Abelson and Sussman.

      It's available online (completely free) here: http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html. I had been programming for 5 years when I read it for the first time, and it completely changed the way I think about programming.

    4. Re:Some... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good list. I would add
      Coders at Work - Seibel
      War and Peace - Tolstoy
      Faust I & II - Goethe
      History of WWII - Churchill
      Eras of Rousseau and Voltaire - W. & A. Durant
      Reading any or all of these is likely to have an effect well outside their nominal topics.

    5. Re:Some... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll adopt A.C.'s list as 70% of my entry and add:

      Design Patterns -G.H.J.V.
      The Ancestor's Tale -Dawkins
      The Blind Watchmaker -Dawkins
      The People's History of the United States -Zinn
      1984 -Orwell

      There are a lot of influential books in my life - but these 5 and the previous list all stand out as either directly contributing to my income or state of partial enlightenment to the world around me.
         

    6. Re:Some... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The C Programming Language opened the door to a lifelong career for me. Forever grateful.....

    7. Re:Some... by brausch · · Score: 1

      Good list. I'd add: Advanced Programming in the UNIX Environment by W. Richard Stevens and Software Tools by Kernighan and Plauger

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    8. Re:Some... by Twisted64 · · Score: 1

      Milligan! I love you. The entire war series is excellent, save for a bit where he suffered shellshock and the humour disappeared.

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    9. Re:Some... by cerberusss · · Score: 1

      Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. No explanation, just go read it.

      Have you really found it influenced your life? I found it highly engrossing, but the whole motorcycle maintenance thing didn't really struck a nerve with me. What did impress me, was the plagued writer descending into insanity, and then coming out of it. But there isn't a whole lot to learn from that.

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  33. I'll give you more than one by davidwr · · Score: 2

    The Bible. Except for atheists and agnostics, most people should insert their favorite holy book here.

    My college calculus book. Naturally.

    Half a bookshelf full of Dr. Seuss books from my school library that I read as a kid.

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    1. Re:I'll give you more than one by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The Bible.

      Nah .. forget the Bible .. Read The X-rated Bible instead. It cuts out all the boring bits, plus has some great factual analysis on the original verses.

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    2. Re:I'll give you more than one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yay, that's the simple point - a truthful account of mankind's inherent weakness, no false pretensions, no one-sided account of all good, all victory, all flawless, all perfect... the strength of the Western society was, and is up to now the vast majority who have read it and live it consciously or unconsciously.

    3. Re:I'll give you more than one by dbug78 · · Score: 1

      The Bible. Except for atheists and agnostics, most people should insert their favorite holy book here.

      In the USA, at least, everyone should list The Bible, even if they've never read it or don't believe a word of it. After all, it's largely because of The Bible that...

      1. Gay people can't marry.
      2. Women are second-class citizens who can't be trusted or expected to manage their own lives.
      3. Gays, non-whites, and non-Christians are second-class citizens and are treated with mistrust or contempt, sometimes to the point of assault or murder, and do not deserve to have their views reflected in government or society.
      4. Slavery was all good and well into the 1860's and race discrimination was still going strong 100 years later.
      5. Infant boys have parts of their genitals cut off.
      6. We are in perpetual war with much of the Middle East (the Qur'an shares much of the blame here).

      Whether you believe The Bible or not, whether you've read The Bible or not, whether you even care about The Bible or not, it has restricted your liberty if you live amongst those who live by it.

    4. Re:I'll give you more than one by steppedleader · · Score: 1

      Except for atheists and agnostics

      Actually, I've found that many atheists and agnostics credit the Bible for being the main reason for their (lack of) belief.

    5. Re:I'll give you more than one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Bible is the #1 book. God's(Yahweh's) book to man.

    6. Re:I'll give you more than one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The God Delusion, by Richard Dawkins

    7. Re:I'll give you more than one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Bible. Except for atheists and agnostics, most people should insert their favorite

      I think many atheists are in fact atheists because they read the bible.

  34. The Kama Sutra by yourdog · · Score: 1

    The Kama Sutra

    1. Re:The Kama Sutra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you read that or the Joy of Sex first?

  35. More books... by JDAustin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Most of Heinlein's work, although my personal favorite is Job:A Comedy of Justice (I'd swear the South Park guys got their idea of Heaven and Hell from their).

    I'd add in Atlas Shrugged also, I didnt read until I was 35+.

    1. Re:More books... by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      Most of Heinlein's work

      Job was one of my fav works by Heinlein .. but his obsession with sex in his latter works tended to put me off him.

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    2. Re:More books... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stranger in a Strange Land.

    3. Re:More books... by mlts · · Score: 1

      Religious texts aside, very similar here:

      Asimov goes without saying. I'd say his writings were great, but were positive -- the dystopian hellholes most people write about start to get boring.

      Lots of Heinlein. Some of his works are better than others.

      Michael Moorcock fantasy novels. Definitely in their own genre, and other than the core anti-hero, they are not the usual "it is all shades of grey" or "everyone is the 'good guy' and it is all just a misunderstanding" that we see in modern fiction.

      Piers Anthony was a common read, although not for philosophical reasons -- his stuff was pretty much pure entertainment.

      Raymond E. Feist for a good fantasy world.

      Terry Brooks, although some argue that his works were too close to Tolkein's.

      Keith Laumer for the Bolo series.

      Harry Harrison deserves a mention, similar with Cordwainer Smith (Linebarger's alias).

      Finally, there was one author who wrote a start of a book series about someone going from CEO to fantasy styled shapeshifting warrior on an alien world [1] whose culture was in peril, so summoned the protagonist as their champion. I think the author name was Gary Palmer, and I have zero clue what the book title was. To my recollection, it was extremely well read, and the way the hero "won" by channeling anger instead of being crushed by despair was fairly unique. I really wish I knew the book title.

      [1]: Sounds a lot like Avatar, I know... but was decades before Cameron's work.

    4. Re:More books... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you liked Job: a comedy of justice, you should definitely check out the book that inspired it.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Branch_Cabell#Jurgen

      The famous censorship trial mentioned in the Wiki entry focused on the protagonist's alleged amorous dalliances. But there's a lot of other stuff in the novel, including visits to hell and heaven, as well as Camelot and other mythical realms, and a number of disquietingly amusing observations on diverse topics.

    5. Re:More books... by Joe+Loughry · · Score: 1

      It was "Threshold" by David R. Palmer.

    6. Re:More books... by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 1

      David R. Palmer, Emergence. I was pretty put off by the repeated "but then things got even more ridiculously over-the-top terrible for Our Hero, but then Our Hero sprouted an even more awesome superpower to overcome it!" -- the whole novel was pretty breathless that way. All the same, I enjoyed it, and I was always a little sad that he never followed through with the rest of the planned trilogy.

    7. Re:More books... by mlts · · Score: 1

      I agree there. It did get a bit fantastic that one random human could do better than a complete alien race, but the suspension of disbelief for what the human was going to do against the upcoming enemy was something I was looking for.

      Of course, as for the name David, I forgot to list David Eddings. Very classic fantasy.

    8. Re:More books... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd leave reading off Atlas Shrugged for a while. Best read after you're dead.

    9. Re:More books... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All those books and you still don't know the difference between their and there. Try reading some more..........

    10. Re:More books... by spitzig · · Score: 1

      I was REALLY disappointed by it. I'm an atheist(so, it's not because it's negative about Christianity).

      The theological critique was ok, but nothing I hadn't heard before.

      The fictional aspect inherently suggested a comparison to the original Book of Job. In Heinlein's version, he had to shave without water. He could SEE his girlfriend. Some people he barely knew died, and he saw a lot of devastation.. His wife died, but he couldn't stand her anyway.

      What the original Job went through was SO MUCH worse. In the original Job's whole family was killed, he got diseases, lost everything, including all his friends.

    11. Re:More books... by SkyratesPlayer · · Score: 1

      He might still get there. First sequel to Emergence, Tracking, was serialized in Analog in 2008...

    12. Re:More books... by robsku · · Score: 1

      Religious texts aside, very similar here:

      Asimov goes without saying. I'd say his writings were great, but were positive -- the dystopian hellholes most people write about start to get boring.

      Steel Caves. Naked Sun. The worlds these books take place in are not exactly utopian... Great books anyway, as well as the more positive ones you refer to.

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  36. How I found Freedom in an Unfree world. by trout007 · · Score: 1

    Great book that teaches you that you have to live your life for yourself and not let rules or other people try to keep you down.

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  37. The secret to life. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/
    Learn a Lisp.......
    http://www.manning.com/suereth/
    Learn something hard.......

    You'll either prove that you are in fact an unaccomplished, unmotivated, underachiever....
    or
    You'll learn how much you don't know and do something about it......
    In the end, a book isn't your problem.....

    Your problem is that you lack passion. Great engineers are passionate about what they do. If your not, find something that gives you a reason to be what you are.
    Loving what you do, IS the secret to life....

    watch the movie: City Slickers:....here is a bit of the dialog
    Curly: Do you know what the secret of life is?
    [holds up one finger]
    Curly: This.
    Mitch: Your finger?
    Curly: One thing. Just one thing. You stick to that and the rest don't mean shxx.
    Mitch: But, what is the "one thing?"
    Curly: [smiles] That's what *you* have to find out.

  38. I grew up on classics by Grayhand · · Score: 3, Informative

    HG Wells, Jules Verne, Mary Shelley, Edgar Rice Burroughs, HP Lovecraft, and Robert E Howard. Lovecraft and Howard had the biggest influence. I read a lot of scifi like A Mote In God's Eye and Robert Heinlein but Howard and Lovecraft had the biggest influence.

    1. Re:I grew up on classics by invid · · Score: 1

      I've read all those except Shelley (it's in my book case though).

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    2. Re:I grew up on classics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot to put a quote around "classics." Edgar Rice Burroughs wrote a good yarn but was the literary equivalent of Katie Perry. None of these books would have a positive contribution towards becoming an intelligent or successful human being.

  39. the Black Swan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Black Swan by Nassim Nicholas Taleb. I find this to be the greater work in the Philosophy of Science since Karl Popper's "the Logic of Scientific Discovery", and made a true Skeptic out of me. My scientific training taught me to be skeptic of theory but not to question the method as a whole. Besides being full of Wisdom, its also witty, practical, entertaining and passionate.

    1. Re:the Black Swan by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      The Black Swan by Nassim Nicholas Taleb. I find this to be the greater work in the Philosophy of Science since Karl Popper's "the Logic of Scientific Discovery"

      I couldn't get past the first chapter or two before I threw it down in disgust due to what I considered to be an author who wandered all over the place without actually saying much. IMHO he needed a much better editor.
       
        That plus the fact I grew up knowing that Swans were back.

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    2. Re:the Black Swan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, Black Swan was awesome! Especially the part where Mila Kunis goes down on Natalie Portman. I jizzed for days. Literally.

      If that's not life changing, you're dead.

    3. Re:the Black Swan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Black Swan was great for the reasons you said. His style - which I loved I mean LOVED put some people off.. but then.., it was a best seller if I remember correctly. Everyone should read the Black Swan. It doesn't hurt that he also predicted the crash and for all the reasons the crash happened too.

  40. Hermann Hesse's 'Narcissus and Goldmund' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a lovely story about two friend who follow different paths in life. One scholastic, one bohemian. It contrasts the two fantastically. It helped me consider where I wanted to go and what I wanted to do, and ultimately was a factor in my deciding to not go work with computers and apply to medical school instead. I'm currently in my 5th year.

    Have a read:
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/reader/0720612918/ref=sib_dp_kd#reader-link

  41. My favorites by MetricT · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why Societies Need Dissent - Cass Sunstein
    The Road to Reality - Roger Penrose
    Liars and Outliers - Bruce Schneier
    Diplomacy - Henry Kissenger
    Last Chance to See - Douglas Adams
    Free to Choose - Milton Friedman
    Cosmos - Carl Sagan
    Guns, Germs, and Steel - Jared Diamond
    Black Swan - Nassim Nicholas Taleb
    Meditations - Marcus Aurelius
    Bible

    1. Re:My favorites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would have put the Bible at the top of the list.

  42. The Cookoo's Egg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By Cliff Stoll. Read it early in high school. It got me really excited about computer security, and it pointed me towards the field I'm in now.

    1. Re:The Cookoo's Egg by kermidge · · Score: 1

      The recipe for chocolate-chip cookies isn't so bad either. While I agree with you, my biggest takeaway was that I liked the way his mind worked.

  43. Flatland by 1000101 · · Score: 2
    1. Re:Flatland by Relic+of+the+Future · · Score: 3, Informative

      Why read the wikipedia page, when you can read the whole book?

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    2. Re:Flatland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      absolutely... It FEELS right

  44. early usborne books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How to write your own fantasy games
    how to write your own adventure program
    computer battle games
    computer space games
    robotics (new technologies)
    the usborne book of the furture.
    the microadventures series.
    etc.

    all those books and more from the golden age of tech, the early 80's

    alot of usborne books in there. on a bit of an old book jag.

  45. commit to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    and read Herman Hesse: Siddhartha

    1. Re:commit to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and read Herman Hesse: Siddhartha

      Commit? That's a one evening book. Yes, it's pretty good, but hardly something that requires commitment. If you want a novel from Hesse that needs an extra thought or some more time, read Magister Ludi/The Glass Bead Game.

    2. Re:commit to it by Sique · · Score: 1

      I didn't like the Glass Bead Game too much. It was, what it was describing inside: l'art pour l'art, a glass bead game for a book.

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  46. The Exorcist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I did not know a crucifix could double as a dildo. Makes those impromtu nights over at my christian friends' all the more sexually gratifying,

  47. The 48 Laws of Power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The 48 Laws of Power
    by Robert Greene

    1. Re:The 48 Laws of Power by freddled · · Score: 1

      Now there's a book to read if you want to understand the dark side of human nature. Oh and if Atlas Shrugged guides your life, you'll love it, although you wont appreciate the irony ...

  48. Well... by JobyOne · · Score: 1

    Lots of them. Here are a few pulled from my Goodreads list, in no particular order

    His Dark Materials Trilogy by Philip Pullman - these are kids books, but when I reread them recently I realized that they had a profound effect on my adolescent mind.

    Neal Stephenson - his science fiction gave me a taste of what the world could be.

    Born to Run by Christopher McDougall - It's kind of silly, but a few years ago this book planted the seeds that got me running -- and not just running but running almost daily and LOVING it. Now I'm coming up on thirty with my fitness level tracking upwards. It's amazing.

    Deep Economy by Bill McKibben

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  49. Red Mars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars Trilogy had a major impact on my view of the world. His democratic corporation and gauging everything's environmental impact first before all other considerations really shook up how I thought about the world as it is now.

    1. Re:Red Mars by tylikcat · · Score: 2

      +1

      Though I like KSR's "The Years of Rice and Salt" the best.

  50. Re:Not the Bible. by gameboyhippo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You must be new here. Your answer is not only "not helpful", but it plays to the Slashdot crowd. Your intent was to look intelligent and enlightened, but in reality you look intolerant and ignorant.

    That being said, I'll take the bait. As a rebuttal to "not showing anything of actual import or meaning."(sic), a Christian would argue that its importance is that they are no longer damned by their sins. The historian would argue that its importance is that it provides historical context for various periods of time. The anthropologist would argue that its importance is that it provides insight into the culture and traditions of early Jewish people. And so on...

    But being that you're an average twelve year old neoatheist, your intolerance causes you to spew out this garbage when it wasn't asked for. Specifically, nobody answered "The Bible", but you provided a preemptive "rebuttal" anyway.

  51. An assortment... by tylikcat · · Score: 1

    Na Han - "A Call to Arms" by Lu Xun. A Chinese revolutionary writer. Worth reading even in translation. Why do I get crushes on dead authors?
    Cyteen by CJ Cherryh - seriously one of the best pieces of science fiction of the last century (and had some influence on my heading into biomed from the computer industry. Might have done it anyway...)
    Nonlinear Dynamics and Chaos by Strogatz - which was probably a better reason to go into the mathy side of biomed, but I didn't run into it until I was already in research. (I was explicitly looking for dynamical systems theory, I just didn't know that's what it was called.)
    Oh, and I must put in a word for Apostol's Calculus. The hundreds of hours of my life sucked up by these books... (Really, they're the most rigorous, in ever sense of the word, books on calculus.)
    And let's throw in Before European Hegemony by Abu-Lughod just to balance things out a bit. (This cound easily become the poli-econ section...) ...that all having been said, I have probably beed deeply influenced by Heinlein, but perhaps in questionable ways. (And I'm female. Kind of sick and wrong.) And others I don't even want to admit to...

  52. Conrad's Lord Jim and Heart of Darkness by stainlesssteelpat · · Score: 1

    Reading these two novels by Conrad really shook me up and made me realise I was wasting my life as a chef. Now i'm doing a PhD after finishing my under with 1st class honours.

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  53. PHIKAL and THIKAL by mindcandy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not the books themselves, per se.

    1. Re:PHIKAL and THIKAL by spongman · · Score: 1

      SWIM agrees.

    2. Re:PHIKAL and THIKAL by fygment · · Score: 1

      Didn't read them well ... they a PiHKAL and TiHKAL ... spelling.

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  54. The C++ Programming Language by roninmagus · · Score: 4, Funny

    I remember reading it when I was a kid

  55. Re:First by davidwr · · Score: 2

    I got first

    Who wrote this? I checked Amazon and Google Books and found nothing, so I'm guessing it's obscure. Then again, I only checked the top-10 results for each. Do you have an ISBN?

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  56. Robert J Sawyer novels by Beerdood · · Score: 1

    All science fiction, but I've read quite a few of his books. Most of his novels are based around now or in the near future, and I often have some eye-opening experiences about how life & the world could be so much different if a few circumstances were changed.

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  57. A pattern language by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A Pattern Language: Towns, Buildings, Construction by Christopher Alexander. This changed the way I experienced being in buildings, neighborhoods, and cities, where I spend most of my time. One idea I liked is that you can structure the environment to bring pleasure to people (see also "Thermal delight in architecture"). Another is that you can understand the problem by looked at the ways people have used to solve it. It was fun to see this idea played out a few years later in the software realm.

    I'm not an architect, if that matters.

  58. Gormanghast and The Toyota Way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Gormanghast, now there is a study of stagnation! Even to the point of decay.
    It's also a study in architypal characters and motivations in an organization.
    Doesn't every workplace have their Swelter vs Mr Flea (I mean Flay) conflicts?

    Now, if you are looking to lead the revolution in your organization and demonstrate your management potential, try "The Toyota Way".

  59. And now for something completely different by AwesomeMcgee · · Score: 1

    A marriage of heaven and hell - William Blake.

    All of Blake's works are amazing and frankly transformative in my life; I don't know why but for some reason hearing points made that I had to unravel to understand just made them stick more and all of it is written with a beauty in language that really drives his values in passion and joy across as being significant for more reasons than just the words but because there is meaning in those words that can cause affect.

    Just my strange and abnormal two cents, his stuff is *really* short to read (like 20 pages or so) so worth looking at just to see if it resonates anything in you.

  60. Ismael by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ismael was one of the books that made me question and change my world-view towards humanity.

  61. Godel, Escher, Bach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because it taught me it some books aren't worth reading all the way through.

  62. Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by sirwired · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsig. It can help you to look at life in a different way...

    1. Re:Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsig. It can help you to look at life in a different way...

      Read it once .. read it twice .. then read The Tao Of Poo and realized that this small book managed to capture and impart all of the same concepts in something that could be easily read in an afternoon.

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    2. Re:Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by stargazer1sd · · Score: 1

      I have mixed feelings about this book. It takes a long time to get to a simple concept that only opens the door to Zen. But, the story of Robert and his son is compelling. Warning: the afterword will make you cry.

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    3. Re:Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by raddan · · Score: 3, Informative

      While ZMM certainly borrows some ideas from eastern philosophy, this is not the central point of the book. Eastern thinking is mainly used as a counterpoint to the classical Western way of thinking.

      I've read ZMM about seven times. I get something different out of it on every read. It is an attempt to apply rational thinking to the idea of rationality itself, in addition to just being a great story. The section on 'gumption traps' is worth the price of admission alone.

      Definitely my favorite book.

    4. Re:Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm seriously asking what you took from the book. I read it expecting something more but maybe I missed something. It's not that I didn't get it but I just don't understand what other people took from the book to make it so praise worthy by so many.

    5. Re:Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tao of Poo -- It sounds rather disgusting...unlike the the title you linked to.

    6. Re:Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Darth_brooks · · Score: 1

      That, along with The Great Gatsby and Catcher in the Rye, are on my list of books that I absolutely hated. I didn't find any of them to be the least bit fulfilling.

      Might have something to do with having at least a bit of expectation for each. But I found them all to be in the category of "great because everyone says they're great."

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    7. Re:Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by rilister · · Score: 1

      Another weird thing about those books: great as they are (Pirsig's was my instinctive answer to the question posed) both of their sequels (Lila, Te of Piglet) are quite terrible, dull and to be avoided. For some reason they both lapse into a similar mode of complaining about the modern world, feminism, etc, etc...

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    8. Re:Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by CCTalbert · · Score: 1

      Absolutely agree- I've read Zen' 4-5 times, and given copies to several friends.

      I had a really hard time understanding some people, how they just didn't see what was important... it was so obvious to me, how could they not? Zen' helped me to understand these other people, how they were wired so differently :)

      I think a lot of us on /. are way to the "Classic" side of the bell curve, and have to function in a world full of people who literally don't see what we do (and vice-verse).

      I enjoyed the story of their trip too, although I was stunned to learn a while back that his son Chris had died. And it's very insightful in regards to education.

    9. Re:Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by gslj · · Score: 1

      That, along with The Great Gatsby and Catcher in the Rye, are on my list of books that I absolutely hated. I didn't find any of them to be the least bit fulfilling.

      Might have something to do with having at least a bit of expectation for each. But I found them all to be in the category of "great because everyone says they're great."

      I can't say that I like "Zen and the Art" because it's famous. I don't know anyone else who's read it, actually. But...let's start with this: you can't say that the book is a novel, or an autobiography, or a travel book, or a book of philosophy, because it's all of them and none. It has the story arcs of

      1. a man with amnesia making contact with his past,
      2. a man alienated from his emotions who learns to love again
      3. a man trying to make contact with a son who may or may not be losing his sanity
      4. a man trying to understand two friends who are travelling with him
      5. a man trying to understand discoveries about philosophical problems that had obsessed him before he lost his memories.

      Let's put it this way, it is interesting in many of the same ways as "Lord of Light," and is at least as complex.

      -Gareth

    10. Re:Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seconded (or thirded as the case may be) Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. Tao of Poo and Zen and the Art of Archery might be better at Zen (I've read them also), but Pirsig really tells a great story.

    11. Re:Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Thagg · · Score: 2

      I think that ZaaMM is basically autobiography, and Pirsig happened to have an interesting life. And the fact that it was rejected for publication well over 100 times allowed him the time and the incentive to refine it to the point of near perfection. It is my favorite book.

      Unfortunately, it's absolutely impossible to get anybody to read a book written back in the mid 70's anymore. I always recommend it to younger people, and have never ever had anybody take me up on the offer.

      There's a great book called "A Guide to Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" that is sort of like the extras on a DVD. It has chapters that were left out of the final book (much better for having been left out!) and a bunch of other supplementary material.

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    12. Re:Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes, Pirsig and Zukav (The Dancing Wu Li Masters) helped to towards a point where I could begin to form an understanding of the quantum era.

    13. Re:Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have mixed feelings about this book. It takes a long time to get to a simple concept that only opens the door to Zen.

      I don't know, I think the getting there is what makes it fascinating. And the author even starts out by saying something to the effect that it isn't meant to be factual on either Zen or motorcycles. Both are present to frame the story and for analogy-making, but Pirsig is really after the heart of western philosophy.

      Yes, the afterword is pretty sad. But the part where he describes his breakdown is what always grabbed me by the gut and brought tears to my eyes.

    14. Re:Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You meant Pooh

  63. Deep Survival: Who Lives, Who Dies, and Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Deep Survival by Laurence Gonzales

    The book deals with the psychological aspects of people who survive life and death situations. One of the conclusions I took from it was that people who survive accept their reality. This allows them to more easily deal with the challenges they face. I've found this applies to much more than survival situations. The book changed my perspective on a neck injury I suffered a year ago.

  64. Tough and awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gödel, Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstadter is quite amazing. If you have some background in computer science and mathematics, it shouldn't be really hard for you.

  65. Hardball by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By Chris Matthews. If you're at all interested in politics, and haven't been involved in it directly, it will completely alter your perception of how things are done.

  66. The God Delusion by na1led · · Score: 3, Insightful

    by Richard Dawkins, a sure Eye Opener!

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    1. Re:The God Delusion by Pseudonym · · Score: 3, Informative

      Definitely! It's the second-greatest lesson you'll ever get on why you should only write non-fiction books on topics you know know something about. (The best, of course, being God is not Great by Christopher Hitchens.)

      If this stuff interests you, you're far better off reading Breaking the Spell by Dan Dennett. It's a far better book in every respect. Or anything by Robert Ingersoll.

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    2. Re:The God Delusion by The+Evil+Atheist · · Score: 1

      Except Daniel Dennett himself has more and more come down on the side of Dawkins' and Hitchens' view. Dennett may be a philosopher, but even he too is wary of the philosophical bullshit approach. Dawkins and Hitchens may not now anything about religious apologetics, but why should they? Most religious believers don't approach it from a philosophical standpoint but are convinced by bad reasons removed from readily observed reality, or really because they believe whatever makes them happy is truth. Dawkin's and Hitchens' target those people because religious apologetics is a losing game, and nothing but a stupid game. Getting a degree in Theology is like getting a degree in the Twilight books: you are very good at arguing why Bella isn't in an abusive relationship, but you're still a useless twit. Books like The God Delusion and God is Not Great brings much needed honesty and plain speaking.

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    3. Re:The God Delusion by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      Except Daniel Dennett himself has more and more come down on the side of Dawkins' and Hitchens' view.

      Nonetheless, the fact remains that Dennett knows what he's talking about, and Dawkins doesn't, and so it made for a far better, and far more compelling, book than the other two.

      Dawkins and Hitchens may not now anything about religious apologetics, but why should they?

      Did you even read the books? Dawkins knows nothing about philosophy, but still spent a lot of his book writing about it. (To be fair, Sam "profile teh Muslims!" Harris has far outdone him with his attempt at moral philosophy.)

      Hitchens did know a thing or two about history, which makes it even more disturbing how much he cherry picked the facts beyond all reality. But Hitchens was always a bit gonzo in his journalism, which is one of the reasons he was so likeable.

      Books like The God Delusion and God is Not Great brings much needed honesty and plain speaking.

      Honest, plain-spoken ignorance is still ignorance. Go read some actual atheist thinking like Bertand Russell or Robert Ingersoll.

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    4. Re:The God Delusion by The+Evil+Atheist · · Score: 1

      Dawkins knows nothing about philosophy, but still spent a lot of his book writing about it

      And here lies the problem with your criticism and similar criticisms: you're arguing a straw man. Dawkins doesn't write about philosophy. There is no reason why we must even argue philosophy when it comes to religion when religion still makes non-philosophical, and very much testable, claims about the world. And they ACT on it. His arguments (and Hitchens') aren't meant to be philosophical. They're meant to be realistic and pragmatic approaches to understanding the world. A lot of the "philosophical" problems Dawkins and Hitchens attack do not need philosophical rebuttals. They may have been philosophical back in the Middle Ages, but they are completely irrelevant given what we now know through science. Philosophers are mostly useless these days and attack non-philosophical works as if they were intended as philosophical works to stay relevant. There has been no more useful philosophical development since the advent of relativity and quantum physics.

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    5. Re:The God Delusion by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      Dawkins doesn't write about philosophy.

      Yes, he does. When he takes on, for example, the classical arguments for the existence of a deity, he is arguing philosophy. When he argues that to be "God" implies special creation, he's making a philosophical claim. Moreover, he's doing it far worse than most theistic critics of those arguments did, let alone the milennia of secular philosophers who tackled the same issues.

      (And, by the way, I didn't even mention Dawkins' introduction to Lawrence Krauss' latest book, which even embarrassed Krauss.)

      I agree that Hitchens wasn't arguing philosophy. For the record, I didn't claim that he was. Hitchens was trying to make a case using history and current affairs, or at least an overly cherry-picked version of it.

      Philosophers are mostly useless these days and attack non-philosophical works as if they were intended as philosophical works to stay relevant. There has been no more useful philosophical development since the advent of relativity and quantum physics.

      I don't think you actually understand what philosophers actually do, and I'm not sure that explaining it in any detail would actually help. So here's the bumper-sticker version: Philosophy is the field of human endeavour from which other fields of human endeavour are born.

      Every department at a university, from mathematics to the study of drama, is an activity which was once considered to be under the umbrella of "philosophy". Every academic discipline is a child of philosophy, and those disciplines are still being born today. Without philosophy, there would be no new fields of human endeavour.

      I'll give just one example: Semantics, the study of word meanings, was developed by philosophers, and graduated from the philosophy department to the linguistics department, with help from the computer science department. All of this happened after "the advent of relativity and quantum physics".

      If it helps, consider the role that science fiction plays in the ecosystem of science. Science fiction is the main way that science-minded people use to consider the social and ethical implications of technology, by means of elaborate thought experiments. If you think about it, science wouldn't progress (or at least wouldn't progress anywhere near as fast as it does) without literature.

      The best cure for this misconception would be to go and study some philosophy at a modern university. But the easiest would be to read some stuff by modern atheist philosophers.

      But more to the point, step back and try to understand what you're actually implying here. What you're indicating is that everything that isn't science (and in particular, everything that is humanities) is useless, because it has been superceded and replaced by science. And you wonder why why people charge "new atheism" with being anti-intellectual?

      Lack of belief, or disbelief, in deities is fine, good, rational, and probably accurate. But once you claim that most of the academic mainstream is bunk and all the answers are to be found in your pet field, that's when you slip into a space currently occupied by pseudo-intellectuals and cranks. And you're insulting the majority of academic atheists by telling them that their chosen fields of endeavour are a waste of time.

      I'm reminded of Les Murray's famous haiku: Brutal policy, / like inferior art, knows / whose fault it all is.

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    6. Re:The God Delusion by The+Evil+Atheist · · Score: 1

      Yes, he does. When he takes on, for example, the classical arguments for the existence of a deity, he is arguing philosophy. When he argues that to be "God" implies special creation, he's making a philosophical claim. Moreover, he's doing it far worse than most theistic critics of those arguments did, let alone the milennia of secular philosophers who tackled the same issues.

      He mostly argues against the Design argument. It may have once been a philosophical argument, it is not longer in the that realm precisely because of theories like natural selection making an argument for or against design completely outdated and not even wrong. He argues against many other arguments that may have once been philosophical, but are rendered moot by science (eg morality, beauty, society). And here's the main point you continue to miss: the average person who is religious DO NOT have a degree in philosophy. They don't know what epistemology is, or what ontology is. They are convinced by arguments from design, morality, beauty, etc. Dawkins is writing for those people. And for most people, it is the morality aspect of theism that keeps them believing - they couldn't care less about the philosophy and probably would think it is just all just splitting hairs. Most people are sensible enough to know that the advanced arguments in epistemology are complete bullshit and are only there to keep people who enjoy that kind of thing busy, because who knows what they'll get up to if they had time on their hands.

      (And, by the way, I didn't even mention Dawkins' introduction to Lawrence Krauss' latest book, which even embarrassed Krauss.)

      There's a few videos on Youtube of an open discussion between Dawkins and Krauss in front of a crowd in a theatre. There are other videos out there of Krauss, none of which indicates his embarrassment of Dawkins' views, let alone his introduction. Looks like you've just read a cherry-picked review with cherry-picked out of context quotes from Krauss. Go look at those videos. Krauss even admits to coming around more to Dawkins' way of thinking.

      I don't think you actually understand what philosophers actually do, and I'm not sure that explaining it in any detail would actually help. So here's the bumper-sticker version: Philosophy is the field of human endeavour from which other fields of human endeavour are born.

      Sorry, but that's what you philosophers tell each other to make yourselves seem more important than you actually are. Once the "other fields of human endeavour are born", the philosophy that gave birth to them becomes useless and provides no other useful input. That's simply just what happens.

      I'll give just one example: Semantics, the study of word meanings, was developed by philosophers, and graduated from the philosophy department to the linguistics department, with help from the computer science department. All of this happened after "the advent of relativity and quantum physics".

      And philosophy now no longer plays any part in linguistics: only science. Anthropology studies languages and, or course, other human communications. Philosophical arguments have no place in linguistics. It's disgusting that you're basically arguing a genetic fallacy, or worse, a master-slave analogy. Philosophy gave birth to new sciences, therefore philosophy is still the master. No. Wrong. Ridiculous. That's just trying to steal credit for other people's efforts. That's just saying "I gave birth to you, so I still own you, not by the virtue of continued achievement, but because of origins". This is the same kind of evil slavery thinking that justifies the doctrine of original sin that somehow we all have original sin purely from being born, and that original sin happened in the first place is because the creator owns the created.

      What you're indicating is that everything that isn't science (and in particular, everything that is humanities) is

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    7. Re:The God Delusion by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      And here's the main point you continue to miss: the average person who is religious DO NOT have a degree in philosophy. They don't know what epistemology is, or what ontology is. They are convinced by arguments from design, morality, beauty, etc. Dawkins is writing for those people.

      That's a fair point. It is true that, for example, the design argument does have no legs thanks to 150-year-old science. It is also true that some people (mostly in certain areas of the US) "are convinced" by such arguments.

      There's a few videos on Youtube of an open discussion between Dawkins and Krauss in front of a crowd in a theatre. There are other videos out there of Krauss, none of which indicates his embarrassment of Dawkins' views, let alone his introduction.

      Let me first correct a mistake that I made. Dawkins wrote the afterword, not the introduction.

      You use the phrase "Dawkins' views" as if they are one monolithic entity, which they clearly are not. I'm sure that you don't agree 100% with every single opinion that Dawkins had. If you did, I'd be worried. I'd be even more worried if Krauss did.

      As a populariser and champion of modern biology, Dawkins is second to none. Krauss of course agrees with that. Who, apart from a religious fundamentalist or an ignoramus, wouldn't? Krauss is, like Darwin, an atheist, and sees no use for religion, and even sees where it could cause problems in modern society. Join the club there, too.

      For the record, the specific claim which embarrassed Krauss was "This could potentially be the most important scientific book with implications for supernaturalism since Darwin." That is an embarrassing statement to make.

      Sorry, but that's what you philosophers tell each other to make yourselves seem more important than you actually are.

      I'm no philosopher. I'm a scientist, working in bioinformatics. As far as philosophy goes, I only know just enough to overcome the Dunning-Kruger effect.

      Once the "other fields of human endeavour are born", the philosophy that gave birth to them becomes useless and provides no other useful input. That's simply just what happens.

      Around the time of the last ice age, "culture", "science", "storytelling", "music", "religion" and "medicine" were not distinct fields of human endeavour. They were all the same thing.

      Over time, they split off into distinct fields. But nobody could possibly say with a straight face that just because music is distinct from medicine that music has nothing to offer the world today. That's beyond ludicrous.

      Philosophy is still giving rise to new areas of study today. As with biological evolution, it's often hard to see because the process is invariably slower than we may hope, and you have to look in some detail to see it happening.

      It's disgusting that you're basically arguing a genetic fallacy, or worse, a master-slave analogy. Philosophy gave birth to new sciences, therefore philosophy is still the master.

      I did not say that, nor did I imply it. I can only suggest you go back and read what I wrote.

      Why don't you understand what YOU'RE saying here? You're saying that whatever science supercedes and replaced is not useless. Uh, yes it is.

      On the contrary, I'm saying that science has not superceded or replaced the humanities.

      One of the key advantages of science, in fact probably the key advantage, is that it knows its own limitations. It only deals with that which is objectively testable. This is why it's so successful. This is why it's so reliable. This is why it only ever adds to our knowledge, and never takes away from it: science knows where it, even in principle, can't go.

      Don't get me wrong. Science can inform just about every interesting area of our lives. But it would be a mistake to think that every interesting area of our lives is science.

      This has been an interesting discussion, thanks. You can have the last word if you want.

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    8. Re:The God Delusion by The+Evil+Atheist · · Score: 1

      I'm sure that you don't agree 100% with every single opinion that Dawkins had. If you did, I'd be worried. I'd be even more worried if Krauss did.

      I agree more with Dawkins and Dennett than Hitchens and Harris. Dawkins gets a lot of criticism, but he's by far the most moderate of all of them. I have no problem saying I probably don't disagree that much with Dawkins. Personally, I had the beginnings of the idea that teaching children any religious belief or strong atheism as truth is a kind of abuse back in 2002 (I was in Year 10 then). It's been a while since I've read Delusion, but I can't remember much that I disagree with. I would have expressed some things a bit different, but I didn't take it as a book on philosophy as critics do in a strawman fashion.

      For the record, the specific claim which embarrassed Krauss was "This could potentially be the most important scientific book with implications for supernaturalism since Darwin." That is an embarrassing statement to make.

      That is not as serious of an "embarrassment" as you were trying to imply when you first mentioned it. I can see why Krauss would be embarrassed by such high praise. Most humble people would. However, Krauss himself thinks modern understanding of the Big Bang moment scientifically renders the question of "why is there something rather than nothing" moot. Even he thinks it's no longer a question of philosophy but one of testable science.

      On the contrary, I'm saying that science has not superceded or replaced the humanities.

      I used supercede strictly in the original context of this discussion of philosophy. Humanities has many other fields than philosophy and I daresay they could do with a lot more scientific input.

      It only deals with that which is objectively testable. This is why it's so successful. This is why it's so reliable. This is why it only ever adds to our knowledge, and never takes away from it: science knows where it, even in principle, can't go.

      Subjective experiences are also objectively testable. I disagree that science knows where it can't go and I'll go so far to say that no one knows where science can go. Science isn't a static thing. Science evolves as well and expands its boundaries either by disproving old theories, or rendering entire fields of philosophy moot as far as most people are concerned. Just like no one predicted computers could do so much when they were first invented, no one can say that the process of science can't self modify and allow us to study things no one thought was possible in a way that only makes sense after the fact. It has already happened with, as we know, Darwin, and then it happened again with Einstein. The one thing about science that hasn't changed, and is probably the driver for changes in the scientific approach, is that science is what's left when you take into account all the ways you can be wrong. This is an ongoing process and there's nothing that can't be studied in objectively testable ways with that approach - unless being wrong and believing you are correct is an acceptable way of finding the truth. If being wrong is unacceptable, then the only thing any field of study can become is a science.

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  67. Lord Jim must really be awesome by moronikos · · Score: 1

    ...because I read Heart of Darkness and have seen Apocalypse Now a few times and it never inspired me to get a PhD.

    1. Re:Lord Jim must really be awesome by stainlesssteelpat · · Score: 1

      Lord Jim is, surprisingly. I read it while working on a farm in Spain whilst backpacking round the world. Jim is a guy who's constantly running from shit. Kinda struck a chord.

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  68. YMoYL! by frAme57 · · Score: 1

    Your Money or Your Life by Robin & Dominguez. This is one to read sooner rather than later. If I had read it years ago I would probably not now be living paycheck to paycheck & working in a job I hate.

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  69. The Empty Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Empty Mirror: Experiences in a Japanese Zen Monastery

  70. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

  71. Re:Not the Bible. by da007 · · Score: 1

    Okay. "Mere Christianity" and "The Problem of Pain"

    Vote parent up. Mere Christianity is a great book.

  72. Silly question by FridayBob · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My impression is that only people who have read very few books are likely to say that any one book has had a "significant impact on their lives." No one book has all the answers, but people who read enough of them do tend to become wiser. Anyway, if you're looking for a good book, first find a good author.

    1. Re:Silly question by FriendlyStatistician · · Score: 1

      I strongly disagree. I've read many hundreds of books over the course of my life. I've never kept careful count, but looking at the Kindle I bought about 18 months ago, I have about 100 books I've read on there in that time. I've probably also read at least a dozen books in hard copy in the last 18 months--I do most but not all of my reading on my Kindle these days. Many books I've read and mostly forgotten and can't identify any specific impact they had on me, though I have no doubt that collectively they have changed me. But there are a few--maybe a dozen--that I would say have definitely had significant, identifiable, individual impacts on me (in addition to the general influences that I can't identify). There are a few of these books that I keep re-reading over and over again and just can't stop thinking about.

      I honestly pity you if you've never had that experience--if you've never read a book that changed your life.

    2. Re:Silly question by stymy · · Score: 1

      Not necessarily. Sometimes you find that a particular book or author particularly resonates with you. For me, the books that I'd say had the greatest impact are: The Stranger, by Albert Camus Heart of Darkness, by Joseph Conrad Fathers and Sons, by Turgenev The Sun Also Rises and A Farewell to Arms, by Ernest Hemingway various works by Herman Hesse

    3. Re:Silly question by Newander · · Score: 1

      Unless you look at a book as a turning point in your life. For me it was The Silver Chair (I didn't know that you were supposed to read them in order.) Before that I was getting bored with Hatchet and probably about to quit reading. It was my first fantasy novel and it opened up a whole new genre of books that have kept me reading the rest of my life.

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    4. Re:Silly question by FridayBob · · Score: 1

      I strongly disagree. ... I honestly pity you if you've never had that experience ...

      Actually, your experience sounds a lot like mine. Sure, I have read many books that I found much better than others -- some that I've even re-red three times with many years in between. My favorite ones are very well written and are either highly entertaining and/or make me stop and think the most. But, it's not like any one book literally changed my life.

      Perhaps our differing views regarding the original question stem from the way we interpret the phrase "had a significant impact on your life." That sounded too strong for me, so I was taking it more literally, for example Paul Ryan being overly-enthusiastic about Ayn Rand's books, or even a fundamentalist raving about a religious tome. I don't think any book will ever have that kind of impact on me.

  73. In the nuclear-war-can-be-kind-o-fun department... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Alas Babylon by Pat Frank. This combination of Tom Sawyer and Dr. Strangelove is a classic that taught me to be prepared to see the danger and opportunity in any situation.

  74. What Color is Your Parachute? by renard · · Score: 1

    Humbly suggest that you explore career options - WCYP? provides a good way in, there are plenty of other options too. When you find a career that inspires you, growing in your capabilities, responsibilities, rank, and salary will seem like the most natural thing in the world, and not the epic struggle it is when you're stuck in a place/career/situation you don't like.

    Other suggestions: (1) Make sure you are dating, meeting people (or talking to your gf/bf/spouse if you are attached). The right partner can be a great inspiration. (2) Consider counseling. Just having someone who is paid to listen to your gripes and deep thoughts, a half hour at a time, once a week or so, can be worth a lot, and can often help us get unstuck.

    Good luck, let us know how you work it out.

    Cheers,
    renard

    1. Re:What Color is Your Parachute? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "When you find a career that inspires you, growing in your capabilities, responsibilities, rank, and salary will seem like the most natural thing in the world, and not the epic struggle it is when you're stuck in a place/career/situation you don't like."

      Engineering: better, faster, cheaper. Pick two.
      Careers: inspiring, growing responsibilities, increasing rank, increasing salary. Pick one.

  75. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See, he was looking for a book to ENHANCE his career, not help him become an unlikable jerk who no one wants to work with who will then gnaw himself in the dark home alone and blame the world for not appreciating his genius.

  76. Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by justfred · · Score: 5, Informative

    Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid

    http://www.amazon.com/G%C3%B6del-Escher-Bach-Eternal-Golden/dp/0465026567

    This book taught me more about coding (and recursion, and all sorts of other concepts) than any language-specific book I've read. I carried it around for a couple of years, making my way through as I could. Highly recommended.

  77. My advice... by sithlord2 · · Score: 1

    "The Art of Happiness" by the Dalai Lama.

    I think the most important part is to figure what you want to achieve. Do you want to go to a management-postion because you really want to manage projects (or other people), or do you want it so you can call yourself an "achiever"? If it's the first, do what you need to do. If it's the second, you really need to evaluate your priorities in life. I work in IT for 10 years now, and I don't want to go to a management-postion ever, because I like the part of messing and playing with servers. If your passion lies in the technical domain, I doubt a promotion to management would make you happy.

    Just think about it for a few days: what do you really want to do 8 hours a day? Figure that out, and adjust your career-plans to this goal.

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  78. Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is Facebook the only book anybody reads anymore?

  79. Selfish Gene. Taras Bulba. Howl (and other Poems) by gatesstillborg · · Score: 1

    Bukowski short stories. Shakespeare Coriolanus and Timon of Athens. Aeschylus Oresteia. Hippolytus (Murray transl.) Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged (excerpts). The Stranger. Canterbury Tales (Wife of Bath). The Idiot. Chekov. The Jungle. Short Happy Life of Francis Maccomber.

  80. Dostojevski by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 1

    Particularly the Idiot and Crime and Punishment.

    I don't think any of them will help you with your career, though - unless you plan to kill someone with an axe and are looking for advise for or against it.

  81. Books by Animats · · Score: 1
    • Two-volume biography of Edison.
    • Berkeley, "Giant Brains, or Machines That Think" "The Scientific American Book of Projects for the Amateur Scientist"
    • Organik, "Fortran IV"
    • Heilbroner, "The Worldly Philosophers"
    • Plunkett, "Plunkitt of Tammany Hall"
    • Knuth, "Fundamental Algorithms"
    • Horowitz and Hill, "The Art of Electronics"
    • Ernest, "Chapters on Machinery and Labor"
    • Russell, "Why I am not a Christian"
    • Malkiel, "A Random Walk Down Wall Street"
    • Graham, "The Intelligent Investor"
    • Mackay, "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds"
    • Ellis, "A Social History of the Machine Gun"
  82. Re:Not the Bible. by ubergeek65536 · · Score: 0

    "a Christian would argue". Arguments require logic.

  83. Re:Every book in high that you were supposed to re by Fallingcow · · Score: 1

    Skip Salinger

    Don't skip Salinger.

    Skip Raise High the Roofbeams and Seymour, an Introduction. Never, ever, ever read it. Ugh.

    Skip Catcher.

    Read Nine Stories, then read Franny and Zooey if you loved that.

    If you loved both, maybe circle back and try Catcher after all.

    If you loved all three of those... still don't read Raise High....

  84. Dune by LaminatorX · · Score: 1

    After reading Dune, I could no longer accept religion at face value.

  85. Gödel, Escher, Bach by invid · · Score: 1

    Gödel, Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstadter. A must read if you are interested in artificial intelligence and/or information theory.

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    The Moore-Murphy Law: The number of things that will go wrong will double every 2 years.
    1. Re:Gödel, Escher, Bach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hofstadter hints that there is a hidden message in the book, and I believe that to be true. The conclusions I was able to draw after reading the book were enough to completely alter my entire view on the nature of reality. I don't want to tell you what that message is because if you don't see it yourself, you'll think anybody who does is going out on a limb. But if you really think about the implications of what you read, you may experience a fundamental shift in what you believe.

  86. Time Enough for Love by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While there are other great books (Dune was mentioned earlier), I have found Time Enough for Love has had more long term affects on my thinking than any other. In large part because it is so darn quotable:
    http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Robert_A._Heinlein#Time_Enough_for_Love_.281973.29

    Also it is about the wisdom of a man who has lived for thousands of years, so I think the idea that it is a man's attempt to condense as much wisdom in one book as possible. Let me just reference my favorite quote:

    Do not confuse "duty" with what other people expect of you; they are utterly different. Duty is a debt you owe to yourself to fulfill obligations you have assumed voluntarily. Paying that debt can entail anything from years of patient work to instant willingness to die. Difficult it may be, but the reward is self-respect.
      But there is no reward at all for doing what other people expect of you, and to do so is not merely difficult, but impossible. It is easier to deal with a footpad than it is with the leech who wants "just a few minutes of your time, please — this won't take long." Time is your total capital, and the minutes of your life are painfully few. If you allow yourself to fall into the vice of agreeing to such requests, they quickly snowball to the point where these parasites will use up 100 percent of your time — and squawk for more!
      So learn to say No — and to be rude about it when necessary.
      Otherwise you will not have time to carry out your duty, or to do your own work, and certainly no time for love and happiness. The termites will nibble away your life and leave none of it for you.
      (This rule does not mean that you must not do a favor for a friend, or even a stranger. But let the choice be yours. Don't do it because it is "expected" of you.)
    - TEfL

  87. Soul of a New Machine by JosefWells · · Score: 1

    by Tracy Kidder

    1982 National Book Award for Nonfiction and a Pulitzer Prize for General Non-Fiction.

    Must read for anyone in Computer Engineering (Hardware design, Architecture, Low level software)

  88. the bible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll never be able to poop properly again after wiping my ass with every page.

  89. Story of Bob Noyce (fairchild, intel) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I highly recommend the Man Behind the Microchip. It is the biography/story about Bob Noyce. He and his team were the reason why Silicon Valley became Sillicon Valley. Nobody more important in my opinion, more so than Steve Jobs who lots of people think of an icon. While on the topic, I also highly recommend the movie thas was based on this book. It's called "The Real Revolutionaries."

  90. Mine would be... by CyberSnyder · · Score: 1

    The TI-994a Extended Basic manual and "Cosmos" when I was a kid.

    No books really stick out from college, I'd say it was more of a cumulative effect from the individual books.

    "UNIX in a Nutshell" in the early 90's - sure it's just a dump of man pages, but I think I memorized everything between the pages and it got me started in UNIX.

    "Learning Perl" - perl has paid the bills and let me go home at a decent hour. Thanks Larry!

  91. The Mad Scientists' Club by Bertrand Brinley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Read when I was about 8 and made we want to become a mad scientist, although I ended up becoming more of a "mad" computer scientist.

    1. Re:The Mad Scientists' Club by Bertrand Brinley by Joe+Loughry · · Score: 1

      Yes! Those books have been reissued, by the way, from Purple Press. They are just as good as you remember.

    2. Re:The Mad Scientists' Club by Bertrand Brinley by Joe+Loughry · · Score: 1

      Purple House Press, sorry.

  92. Steve Hagen: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. How the World Can Be the Way It Is: An Inquiry for the New Millennium into Science, Philosophy, and Perception
    2. Buddhism Plain and Simple
    3. Buddhism Is Not What You Think: Finding Freedom Beyond Beliefs

  93. Windows Game Programming For Dummies by Dunge · · Score: 0

    ... and it was not "for dummies". DirectDraw7 in C++

  94. All of them... by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, except for the ones by Ayn Rand - those made me more stupid. So I had to read some Chomsky and Borges to fix that.

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    That is all.
    1. Re:All of them... by gatesstillborg · · Score: 1

      Nope. Ayn Rand is the only one who effectively tackled post-industrial America. She only lacked poor editing on Atlas. She understandably probably got to a point where she couldn't trust anyone enough for that.

    2. Re:All of them... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think Ayn Rand's books address legitimate problems and they force the reader to question morality that's usually accepted as conventional wisdom. Unfortunately, her solutions are idealistic fantasies. In this regard, she's very much like Karl Marx, which is pretty ironic considering he's her enemy #1. Too bad she didn't check her premises. . .

      Anyway, Rand's books are interesting for someone who can see the fallacies in them. They're dangerous in the hands of those who don't.

  95. Re:Not the Bible. by Antipater · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I always preferred The Screwtape Letters to Lewis' other works. It's a fun read, and an interesting look at the psychological nature of temptation even if you don't go in for the religious aspects of it.

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  96. Why not the Bible? Re:Not the Bible. by davidwr · · Score: 1

    Besides, there are so many to choose from.

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  97. Small is Beautiful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... authored by E.F. Schumacher

  98. My List by Bodhammer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Dune
    Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
    1984
    Neuromancer
    Atlas Shrugged
    Three Pillars of Zen
    The Bible
    The Art of Happiness, The Art of Happiness at Work
    Foundation
    Most of Robert Heinlein's books and short stories. (man who sold the moon is still a favorite)
    An introduction to microcomputers, Volume 1
    Linchpin: Are You Indispensable?

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    "I say we take off, nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
    1. Re:My List by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Karma whore ;)

    2. Re:My List by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If he's a karma whore, why did he list Atlas Shrugged?

    3. Re:My List by sometext · · Score: 1

      Definitely Neuromancer. In general Gibson's books have been hugely influential to how I see the world.

  99. Managing Humans by HockeyPuck · · Score: 0

    It's a book about management, but told through the eyes of a software development manager via tales and stories. Very good book.

    http://books.google.com/books?isbn=1430243147C

    Reminds me of how I can identify with the situations in the movie Office Space. I can easily identify with the stories in this book.

  100. A list with a Buddhist slant by stargazer1sd · · Score: 1

    Are we talking on a professional or personal level? The two overlap to some extent. You need to do a serious analysis on yourself (perhaps with the help of a trusted friend or colleague) and identify the areas where you need to improve your skills.

    But, here's my own list:

    On a personal level -- Buddhism Plain and Simple is a good read, even for non-Buddhists.

    On a professional level --

    Moving up to something like a tech lead means you need more feel for the business side, and your technical reading should be more abstract. You're a professional programmer, you should be able to go from an algorithm to the programming language of your choice with no trouble.

    Quality Software Management, Vol. 1 by Gerald Weinberg is good for getting your head around the way technical organizations operate; for better and for worse. I wouldn't worry about the other three volumes for a while.

    Introduction to Algorithms by Cormen, et al. We talked some about algorithms and complexity when I was in college, but never in enough detail. I like this book for its rigor, not necessarily its readability.

    Design Patterns by Gamma, et al. is another book to get you thinking about programming in more than just linguistic terms.

    One other resource worth mentioning -- MIT, Stanford, and other universities have put their core Computer Science classes online. You should investigate those classes in light of where you need to improve.

    --
    Play it cool, play it cool, 50-50 fire and ice.
    1. Re:A list with a Buddhist slant by tylikcat · · Score: 1

      Though if we're going to have a Buddhist slant, ShengYen's "Hoofprint of the Ox" is probably my favorite...

  101. Gödel, Escher, Bach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because it is slightly less painful than repeatedly hitting yourself with a hammer.

  102. Re:Not the Bible. by mooingyak · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One of my English teachers strongly recommended reading the Bible, not for the religious content, but because there are an enormous number of literary references to it.

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  103. Finite and Infinite Games by MyFirstNameIsPaul · · Score: 1

    By James P. Carse

    Although written by a religious scholar, this is not a book on religion, per se.

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  104. Re:Not the Bible. by AvitarX · · Score: 1

    If one chooses the bible, I expect them to tell me which book of the bible.

    My personal life view is most influenced by the attitude Chaucer took when writing about his characters in The Canterbery Tales. His irreverent love for bad people is how I try to live my life (without hating everybody). To me it sums up the secular implications of Jesus' message.

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  105. the right kind of jerk by rubycodez · · Score: 4, Informative

    the words used indicates he considered promotion to be enhancing career. Therefore he just needs to become the right kind of jerk.
     
      The Prince -- Machiavelli
      The Art of War -- Sun Tzu
      Steve Jobs -- Dylan Baker

    You know what, forget the last one, world doesn't need any more of those extreme over-the-top jerks

    1. Re:the right kind of jerk by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2

      Actually, I found "The art of war" to be vastly overrated. Not overrated as a great achievement in its time, nor as a work of historical significance, but as a self-help book for managers or those aspiring to be. There's a few valuable one-liners in there, but you probably already know those.

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      If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
    2. Re:the right kind of jerk by Pheidias · · Score: 1

      Though the prose is repetitive and often corny, I was galvanized to become a much more efficacious jerk by reading "The 50th Law" -- advice from the "48 Laws of Power" guy based on the life and career of 50 Cent.

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    3. Re:the right kind of jerk by jdray · · Score: 1

      I once had a job where I was struggling to fit into the dog-eat-dog social hierarchy. OK, so I've had several jobs where that was the case. However, at this particular job, my boss' boss (who was thankfully not an idiot) recommended I read "The 48 Laws of Power." She said that, even if I didn't want to adopt the ideals laid out there, at least I would have an idea of "what was being done to [me]" (an instructive sentence if there ever was one). I picked up a copy, read the first two "laws," and decided that I didn't want to be that sort of person. Shortly thereafter, I exited working at that company under my own steam, and have been happier ever since. I didn't get out before she did, though. I believe her parting words were something to the effect of, "I just can't be at this place any longer."

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      Updated 6/28/2011
  106. george macDonald & rudolf steiner by johnrpenner · · Score: 1

    two books:

    left brain — rudolf steiner — philosophy of freedom:
    http://wn.rsarchive.org/Books/GA004/English/GPP1916/GA004_index.html

    right brain — george macDonald — phantastes:
    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/325/325-h/325-h.htm

    desert island keepers

  107. My list by wubti · · Score: 1

    Asimov: foundation series. Heinlein : the moon is a harsh mistress. Or how to lead a revolution Rand: atlas shrugged. You may not agree with her philosophy, but it makes you think about the roles of people in your life. Neil Stephenson: any The Fish! Book... Www.charthouse.com Alan cooper: The inmates are running the asylum These all have had a profound affect on my life... Good luck to you!

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  108. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Insightful

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  109. Kurt Wonnegut by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sirens of Titan

    1. Re:Kurt Wonnegut by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      cats cradle!!

  110. Re:Not the Bible. by gameboyhippo · · Score: 1

    With logic like that, ubergeek90210, how can I argue?

    (And yes, I understand the meaning behind 0x10000, but 90210 seems to suit you better)

  111. Re:george macDonald & rudolf steiner | GOETHE by johnrpenner · · Score: 1

    and colour arises from the interaction of light and dark..

    goethe's theory of colours: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_Colours_(book)

  112. LBJ: The Path to Power by boristdog · · Score: 2

    And all the subsequent Robert Caro LBJ books, especially the third book on the Senate. Very well researched and written. Five book series (BIG books, too) that he started writing in the 1970's. The last one isn't even out yet.

    Not specifically for the LBJ content, though it is interesting, but for showing how the US government (especially congress) REALLY works from the inside. And showing what types of people become politicians and how megalomaniacal they tend to be.

    1. Re:LBJ: The Path to Power by MarkvW · · Score: 1

      If you think the LBJ books are great, you'll have to find a greater praise-word for 'The Power Broker.'

    2. Re:LBJ: The Path to Power by czth · · Score: 1

      Have you read Drury's Advise and Consent?

    3. Re:LBJ: The Path to Power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Robert Caro's life-project biography of Lyndon Johnson is still under construction, so it is yet possible for him to present a manuscript more accurately close to the entire truth about LBJ and the American coup d'etat that the assassination of John Fitzgerald Kennedy represents. Whether the pairs of Pulitzer Prizes and National Book Awards presented to Robert Caro were for works that will, at their completion, portray Johnson's involvement in the killing of Camelot remains to be seen. Relevant materials available elsewhere suggest Mr. Caro must address more Lyndon Johnson activities to indicate the entire truth regarding this matter. I join multitudes of readers worldwide to hope Mr. Caro will succeed, but his manuscripts-to-date do not suggest future historians' approbations for accuracy and completeness.

  113. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please explain this. I'm not an American, and outside of the U.S. both Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead are generally regarded as mediocre tripe. What exactly is it about Atlas Shrugged that resonates so highly with Americans? I should state that I've read both books and wasn't overly impressed with either of them.

  114. a couple reads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, The Soul of a New Machine

  115. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    which book of the bible

    The Song of Songs!
    Um, I'll be in my bunk reading the Bible.

  116. The Day the Universe Changed by Relic+of+the+Future · · Score: 2
    First, let me second some earlier suggestions: Flatland, and Godel, Escher, Bach (or the much more concise semi-sequel, I Am a Strange Loop.)

    But one I'd suggest, which I pretty much never see anyone else mention, is The Day the Universe Changed (companion to the BBC miniseries, now available on YouTube.) It's sort of about the history of science, but more so it's about how our discoveries about the world changed (and continue to change) our perception of it.

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    1. Re:The Day the Universe Changed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is my all time favorate series. Another suggestion. Chaos the making of a new science by James Gleke.

    2. Re:The Day the Universe Changed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And his earlier miniseries, Connections (See wikipedia entry)

      Plus, The Ascent of Man (Search youtube for unofficial uploads, and see wikipedia entry)

  117. Definitely the Bible (you did say any genre) by jonadab · · Score: 1

    > which books, of any type or genre, have had a significant impact on your life?

    I've gotta say the Bible, hands down, more than all other books combined. Indeed, it's had more impact on my *career* than any other book, nevermind about my life.

    However, if you narrow it down to directly IT-related stuff, then I'd probably say Programming Perl, Effective Perl Programming, Beyond Fear, and the Inform Designer's Manual, not necessarily in that order.

    HTH.HAND.

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    Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
  118. Voyage From Yesteryear by Daetrin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    On a more serious note, i did really like James P Hogan's "Voyage From Yesteryear." Before reading it i'd always had the impression that Communism sounded like a nice idea but had serious issues on a large scale. I felt the book put forward a completely believable scenario for a stable Anarcho-Libertarian-Communist society. All you need to achieve it is get some advanced tech, and then burn the current social system down to the ground and destroying the very roots of the culture itself.

    I'm not sure if it was more heartening for convincing me that something resembling utopia is actually possible, or disheartening for convincing me it's something we'll never achieve on this planet unless we go through an incredible amount of pain and suffering first.

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    1. Re:Voyage From Yesteryear by icebraining · · Score: 1

      It's a great book, no doubt. The fact that protagonist could be a typical /.er (maladapted, love of computers, dislike for office politics, etc) helps, I guess.

    2. Re:Voyage From Yesteryear by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Wow, that sounds great, because what I want is my own culture burned to the ground and destroyed forever. Yay. What a great idea. Rah communism.

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      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    3. Re:Voyage From Yesteryear by gslj · · Score: 1

      When I first read "Voyage from Yesteryear," I did enjoy it, but I'm convinced that it is just a high-tech version of Eric Frank Russell's story "And Then There Were None." The relationship is closer than that between the movie "Avatar" and Poul Anderson's "Call Me Joe," and that is a pretty darn close similarity in itself.

      H.G. Wells' "Shape of Things to Come" Ursula Le Guin's "The Dispossessed" are two others in the Utopian genre that had a big effect on me.

      Including other genres, "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" and the Heinlein juveniles shaped me.

      -Gareth

  119. Re:Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Bra by Relic+of+the+Future · · Score: 1

    If you like it, be sure to check out the "sequel", I Am a Strange Loop; it summarizes his earlier work in GEB in about two chapters, and the exploration from there is illuminating.

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  120. raw by kiep · · Score: 0

    prometeus rising

    1. Re:raw by Eightbitgnosis · · Score: 1

      That is a mighty fine book

    2. Re:raw by kiep · · Score: 0

      so mighty that it was censured by slashdot....

  121. The Last Lecture by JustinKSU · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Last Lecture by Randy Pausch.

    A touching story about focusing one what matters in life from the point of view of a nerdy geek with months to live.

    1. Re:The Last Lecture by cerberusss · · Score: 1

      I second this. When I read between the lines, Pausch is actually not at all affable or likeable. But somehow there's this intense love that he feels for the world around him, and it stays with him until the end.

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  122. The Space Child's Mother Goose. by microcars · · Score: 1

    Got me interested in concepts that made me want to go to the library at a young age to read science fiction.
    How the book got in our house is a mystery to me, when I went back to try to recover it, its existence was denied by the caretakers of my youth.

    Probable-Possible, my black hen,
    She lays eggs in the Relative When.
    She doesn't lay eggs in the Positive Now
    Because she's unable to Postulate How.

    Flappity, Floppity, Flip!
    The Mouse on the Möbius Strip
    The Strip revolved
    The Mouse dissolved
    In a chronodimensional skip.

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    I like microcars
    1. Re:The Space Child's Mother Goose. by rsborg · · Score: 1

      Amazing. I just ordered this online. Apparently the book not only has the quantum hen, but its in multiple languages. I particularly liked the french version of the rhyme.

      Plusque-Posible ma poule noire
      Elle fait ses oeufs dans le quand-provisoir

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  123. 50 shades of gray of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    50 shades of gray of course

  124. A couple of Suggestions by neurosine · · Score: 1

    Zen and the Art of Motorcycle maintenance -Robert M. Pirsig -may help some of the metaphysical issues. Neuromancer -William S Gibson -may wipe off some of the cyber-funk. Read an old Computer Technician's Handbook by Art Margolis -might bring you back to the fundamentals. Tao Te Ching - The Way of Life -revisit the metaphysical aspects again Then build a speaker box or repair a small engine. There's nothing like visceral experience to get you back in the groove. good luck...

  125. The Dilbert Principle by nabsltd · · Score: 1

    Seriously, there's a lot of real information about the business world in the book, and it's funny.

  126. THE FRONT RUNNER by Patricia Nell Warren by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Although very dated at this point, I came out of the closet after reading this book. Probably not what you had in mind career-wise but it did shape my career and 'the next thing' for me. You never know where that special book will grab you by the short and curlies, shake your brain, and tell you to WAKE THE F*K UP. I guess it's different for everyone.

    Maybe working on YOU rather than your career might get you more mileage than a post for advice on Slashdot.

  127. Magazines by N1AK · · Score: 2

    Personally I'd be tempted to consider subscriptions to some business magazines. Personally I quite like Fortune and Harvard Business Review. They won't give you the depth of books focused on specific subjects but they give you a broader understanding of what is happening and can help direct you towards subjects you think are important and wish to investigate further.

    I would however also suggest reading Robert Cialdini: Influence and Bruce Patton: Difficult Conversations. Neither are about business strategy or leadership instead they both focus on how to consider other peoples positions, how to interact effectively and build productive relationships.

    1. Re:Magazines by tylikcat · · Score: 1

      Oh! And if you're going to mention magazines, The Economist kicks all kinds of ass. The only way I can deal with the political debates involves their live blogging...

  128. Re:Not the Bible. by jonadab · · Score: 1

    You're right: the Bible is the easy answer -- so much so, in fact, that it seems kind of weird that the question even has to be asked. Really, the only way anybody could give a different answer would be if they were largely unfamiliar with the Bible (which, granted, is depressingly common these days).

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  129. Ayn Rand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ayn Rand was also my favorite author of children's books.

  130. A few notable French literature choices. by rampagea1 · · Score: 1

    Both Les Miserable (Victor Hugo) and The Count of Monte Cristo (Alexandre Dumas) are a couple of my favorite French literature books. Not necessarily life-changing but excellent books in my opinion. The Count of Monte Cristo was much easier for me to read cover to cover. Also Madame Bovary (Gustave Flaubert).

  131. Re:Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Bra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My friends used to call it the Weird Man's Bible, and carried it everywhere.
    Excellent choice.

  132. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Fallingcow · · Score: 2

    Most of us are no good at judging literature and consider Dan Brown to be a totally kickass author?

    Lots of us go to church so we're used to really boring, repetitive, preachy monologues full of unjustifiable logical leaps and question-begging?

    Political science and theory education is all but non-existant outside of university major programs specializing in those areas? Ditto general philosophy and reasoning.

  133. Not Books: Classes and Ass Kissing by vinn · · Score: 3, Informative

    If enhancing your career is your goal, I'm not entirely sure reading books is going to do it for ya. It's not like you can leave a copy of "The Question Behind the Question" on your desk and your boss is suddenly going to think, 'Hey, I need to promote that guy.' Ain't gonna happen. So here's some specific career enhancing techniques:

    1. Quit your job and get a different one. Oh, I know that's easier said than done, and you probably have some nice benefits you've accumulated by now. The sad fact is, that is the quickest way to a management level and on to a C-level if that's your goal. If you look around and you rarely see people promoted within your company, guess what - you're not going to get promoted. That means it's time to pad your resume (yes, stretch the truth to the breaking point so it's obvious you've managed people) and apply for management jobs elsewhere. If you get offered a job, negotiate a higher salary and better benefits.

    2. Learn accounting and marketing. Try to get on the job experience in both of those areas working with those individuals. Accounting is important to understand if you want to become a manager because budgeting comes into play and you can do some creative GL accounting within your department to get what you need accomplished. Marketing is important to get experience in because that's where all the Cool Kids work. Knowing the Cool Kids and hanging out with them will get you bonus points with management.

    3. Kiss people's asses. Or, at least grace your boss's desk with a decent bottle wine or a six pack if he did something you appreciate. In an earlier time this was a concept called "courtesy".

    4. Take some classes outside of work. On a basic level, look for one of those seminars held on weekends at hotels in your area, specifically a class in negotiation. We all negotiate every day of our lives and it is immensely helpful to understand when and how to do it properly. If anything, it'll help your marriage. Maybe it's worth taking a management class as well. Here's some Fred Pryor seminars in your area: http://www.fredpryor.com/site/default.aspx

    5. See the above about learning accounting and marketing. Maybe you could take a class at a local community college.

    6. Ask your boss for a promotion. Surprisingly enough, it could be that simple. Don't wait for an opening to appear, just go directly to your manager or his manager (if you know him well) and ask. Maybe your company never knew you were interested in a promotion. Maybe they just thought you're happy doing what you're doing. If there isn't a job open, it's completely possible they've been thinking of creating a new job and just didn't have the right person available to do it, nor did they think they could hire the person externally. Maybe that guy is you.

    7. Finally, if you just want to read some books, I liked Jack Welch's autobiography. I also liked "Good to Great". I'm reading Keith Richard's biography right now, "Life"; pretty much a textbook for what not to do to your body.

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    1. Re:Not Books: Classes and Ass Kissing by Kessler · · Score: 1

      Mod this up!

      Asking the question "I'm an underachiever, what can I read to change this" is a bit like asking "I'm overweight, what can I read to get fit".

      Work with your manager to define a concrete plan (with measurable goals and milestones) that will lead to your next promotion or a transfer to a management role. This will likely require spending time beyond your core working hours (probably working with a mentor), so you're not going to have time to read anything that isn't part of your career advancement plan.

      If your company can't facilitate that approach, then use your "book reading time" to find a new job.

    2. Re:Not Books: Classes and Ass Kissing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While I bring in a comfortable salary, I consider myself an underachiever, and my career is stagnant (I have only been promoted four times in my 12-year career). I have led a couple projects, but I am not in any sort of leadership/management position

      IMHO this is probably the most effective reply. :-) While the other replies helped me identify additional must reads, you are stagnating not because you are an under-achiever but because of one or more of:
      a. the Organization values you in your current position (if you were not valued you certainly would not have technically led projects and would have probably been marked for a layoff) and doesn't really have a replacement for you.
      b. they don't have a management position for you (do you really want to become a manager? You become a jack of all trades but lose your mastery and eventually the one strength you bring to the table) because your Org. is either stagnating or is top heavy.
      c. You actually might not be suited to be a manager. But what the heck - an architect is really one who changes the world, the managers simply manage the whole thing along.

      Remember, there's no such thing as an underachiever. It is all situational. Some thoughts on what you can do (I assume you are willing to put the effort in and are not too brilliant at ass kissin'):
      1. I agree with @vinn about quitting (find another job first). You'll find you are suddenly valuable in your Current Org - ignore them and go forth.

      2. Consider doing a startup. You've got multiple things going for you.
      ** You have fairly deep technical skills - a key skill in a startup. Startups are NOT run by managers.
      ** You have (obviously) spent a long time in one area and will have a fair idea of the problems in that area. Talk to friends/colleagues/customers to identify a few difficult problems (don't go for the low hanging fruit as your managers would tell you) and solve them.

      I suggest introspecting who you really are and what do you want to do in this short life. Identify your strenghts and then go for it. I really like Covey's perspective of first imagining what people would say about you when you are gone and then just go and do it.

      I can toss more ideas but....
      All the best.

    3. Re:Not Books: Classes and Ass Kissing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hit the nail on the head.
      Books alone will not get you anywhere on the jobs ladder.
      Apart from what Vinn has said: get a life ! You sound as if you do not have major interests outside your work. Get into competitive sports and see if you can achieve there. That would synergise your career. Travel to a place you never expected to go: Istanbul, Tokyo, Himalayas......
      All those books (Zen and the art of.... ; Fountainhead etc) are great to read, but they can pump you up at the age of 18-25. After that , they cannot be a driver for your career.

    4. Re:Not Books: Classes and Ass Kissing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I picture you as the "80s guy" from that one episode of futurama. You're a shark.

    5. Re:Not Books: Classes and Ass Kissing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GREAT ADVICE, DR. MOLINA,

  134. Philosophy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    History of Philosophy by William S. Sahakian. He has other books as well.

  135. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kinda related to religion, Dostoevsky's The Brothers Karamazov is my all-encompassing book of life, and a fascinating read as well. But get the Penguin Books version, don't get the Constance Garrett Translation they sell at Barnes and Noble -- existentialism is a dish best served cold.

    The book is heavy, weighing in at around 900 pages, and full of thick multisyllabic intellectualism utilizing a variety of literary techniques -- So if you can't handle real hardcore literature, I will kindly suggest you go back to sucking your thumb and reading Harry Potter.

    -- Ethanol-fueled

  136. Stranger in a Strange Land by riverat1 · · Score: 2

    I'm not sure if it really addresses the asker's needs but Stranger in a Strange Land by Heinlein had a profound effect on me when I read it the first time as a young teenager.

  137. Carl Sagan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot

  138. Life changers in different ways by freddled · · Score: 1

    Creating, Robert Fisk. No Country for Old Men, Oranges Are Not The Only Fruit, Shikasta, Managing Humans, Code Complete. Go figure (that last isn't a book)

  139. Discworld by CCarrot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In my opinion, you can't have a decent quality of life without large doses of humour on a regular basis.

    I have never found a better writer than Sir Terry Pratchett for dry, engaging wit, and the occasional turn of phrase that will still leave you chuckling days later. His Discworld series also provides concise and often cutting criticisms of society and some of our more inane foibles, camouflaged behind the general fantasy setting (the Campaign for Equal Heights movement for Dwarves, for example). His characters are engaging and his situational comedy is absolutely stellar!

    Please don't be thrown just because it is situated in a world that is shaped like a disc, perched atop four elephants who in turn are standing on a giant turtle swimming through the deeps of space :) Yes, it's set in a 'silly' world, and populated with fantastic creatures, but the challenges and triumphs his characters face are usually very applicable to this here modern, mundane world. I heartily recommend all of his works, but the Discworld books in particular.

    Happy hunting!

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    1. Re:Discworld by atrocious+cowpat · · Score: 1

      I've commented elsewhere on this thread and refrained from mentioning any particular authors/books, but of course I heartily recommend anyone reading Terry Pratchett's books. :-)

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    2. Re:Discworld by KreAture · · Score: 1

      Not as silly as only being promoted 4 times and still not being manager.
      How many levels do these guys have in their administration?
      Seriously! No wonder they have trouble with the echonomy.

      Do you guys only get a pay raise whenever you get promoted?
      I am starting to wonder.

    3. Re:Discworld by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I recommend his books to my students. I love his writing - funny and thoughtful at the same time.

  140. Since we're on a SciFi theme.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Frankenstein (Mary Shelly) really impacted me this year when I read it for the first time. Its the first *true* science fiction novel, but really had implications for personal responsibility, societal acceptance and the dangers of science/technology out of the lab. Not long, and well worth it.

    I'll caulk one up for Dune and HG Wells (the Star, for example). They do really point out how human existence (especially daily problems) are trivial in the grander scheme of things. Starship Troopers (Heinlein).

    Works by Arthur C Clarke also influenced my thinking quite a bit, regarding the role of human existence and expansion beyond our basket (Earth).

    Atlas Shrugged, though it is a tough, long read at times. But I thought well worth it. Preachy, for sure. Look for the abridged version, if there is one. ;-)

  141. Journey of the Software Professional by Rob+Riggs · · Score: 1

    It's a rather surprising one, but the one I keep going back to, and which has influenced my career quite a bit is Journey of the Software Professional: The Sociology of Software Development by Luke Hohmann.

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  142. 48 Laws of Power by Spy+Handler · · Score: 1

    I'm sure a lot of self-help books emphasize the same points, but demonstrating them with anecdotes from history with famous historical figures makes it much more entertaining and memorable.

    Some of which are:

    - Winners think like winners. Columbus was a commoner and didn't have a drop of nobility in his blood. But he thoroughly convinced himself that he was powerful, influential, a winner. Everybody assumed he was a nobleman because he acted like one. His poise and self-confidence won him an audience with the Queen and eventually his voyage.

    - Be bold. Timidity is for losers. Do, or do not. But if you decide to do, then do it boldly. Applies to everything from historic battles to asking your boss for a raise.

    - Pay no heed to belittlers, and act as though your enemies' criticisms are beneath you. By not engaging with your detractors tit-for-tat and by dismissing them as if they are of little consequence, you make yourself seem more powerful in the eyes of the public. This might not work when arguing on the internet, but it does in real life.

    1. Re:48 Laws of Power by dave562 · · Score: 1

      Seconded. The book is a decidedly amoral bent to it. Despite that, it lays power dynamics out in black and white and uses a lot of real world examples to illustrate the various points. It was a real eye opener for me because I helped me to understand why certain situations from my past played out like they did.

      I think this book should be required reading for anyone who has to deal with corporate culture.

      Even if you do not want to play the game, you had better be aware of the fact that it is being played around you because it will affect you.

    2. Re:48 Laws of Power by colinrichardday · · Score: 1

      Of course, if you fail to engage with your detractors who agree with Eratosthenes that the circumference of the earth is approximately 25,000 miles, you better have a continent between you and Asia.

  143. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Agreed. It's the clearest case of "begging the question" that you'll ever read. If you don't notice the circular argument, it might seem convincing. So read it again and learn about one of the most common logic mistakes.

    I expected better from LC.,

  144. Re:Atlas Shrugged by rmdingler · · Score: 1

    Why certainly. You didn't suppose a run for Vice President is possible without /. membership did you?

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  145. Re:Every book in high that you were supposed to re by Antipater · · Score: 1
    Skip Tolstoy. War and Peace was awful. Just awful. I like long, slow, epic-scale novels. But W&P wasn't a novel, it was a diatribe. It was a rant against historians, generals, and politicians, all the while lauding the societies that produced them. The characters were less interesting than Attack of the Clones, and the battle scenes were so vague and undescriptive as to be bewildering (much of this last may have been translation problems, but I was using Maude's translation, which was supposedly approved by Tolstoy).

    Also, I realize it was the culture at the time, but godDAMN that man was sexist. I was going to read Anna Karenina after W&P, but after the treatment Natasha and Mary got, I don't even want to know how the man would handle a novel whose entire focus is on a woman. An entire book where the author thinks of the main character as subhuman? It'd be like Forrest Gump, only not endearing.

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  146. Campbell and McLuhan by jasonross · · Score: 1

    Joseph Campbell's Masks of God series and the Hero with a Thousand Faces and Marshall McLuhan's Gutenberg Galaxy were life-changers for me. Campbell showed how all cultures use the same basic myth structures and the same elements can be found in all stories ever told. He also helped me understand a point my religious studies prof in uni told me; myths are stories where it doesn't matter whether it is true or not. Their value are as frameworks and models through which to see the world and help life make sense. McLuhan helped me to see how the tools and technologies that we invent and use change the very way that we think. You cannot separate our culture from the medium needed to transmit and sustain it. And it's the unspoken constraints and limitations of those technologies that limit and define what our civilization can become.

  147. Re:Not the Bible. by TheGoodNamesWereGone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, it *is* the Bible. It's the most influential book ever, and it affects you as well, whether you agree with its teachings or not. It's the very basis for Western civilization & morality (though that morality is under attack.) Now I'm going to surprise you and say I'm an atheist. I indeed am, but the Bible's influence on my life cannot be understated.

  148. Books that I found particularly influential by dbk25 · · Score: 1

    Thomas Kuhn, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions
    Charles Mackay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds
    Fred Brooks, The Mythical Man-Month

    (reserving the option to remember and add to this list after I hit "Submit")

  149. books! by Monkey-Man2000 · · Score: 1

    Oooh, one of the better Ask Slashdot's in a while IMHO.

    To the OP:
    The Elements of Style - Makes you a better writer after reading in one sitting
    How to Win Friends and Influence People" - Previously mentioned, but essential. Still, it is mostly "don't be an asshole".
    The Selfish Gene - Realize the REAL power and strength of Darwin's arguments. This shows how Natural Selection 'magically' creates order in a chaotic universe.
    Flatland - Also previously mentioned but really essential for breaking your brain in a good way.
    War and Peace - The first big "historical fiction" I'm aware of and yet rooted in reality with a great setting to boot (the Napoleonic invasions of Russia). It would be like me writing a book on WWII. The last 100 pgs or so are good but mostly a rant though.
    Madame Bovary - This book is hysterical when you realize it is just an antiquated moral justification for why woman should not read books (especially romance novels). The story's still entertaining as I recall.
    1984 and Animal Farm - The usual suspects and see the next to see I'm clearly an Orwell fan.
    Down and Out in Paris and London - This is where I learned that the more you pay for food at a restaurant, the more hands have touched the food (among many other things). Also, working in a Parisian kitchen in the early 20th century is like working in fast food now.
    Crime and Punishment"Crime and Punishment - Get inside the mind of a thrill killer and realize even crazy people think very rationally. This is helpful when you read the latest crazy doing something inconceivable in the news and now know it seemed very logical to them at the time.
    The Doors of Perception and really anything by Aldous Huxley including Brave New World - The Doors of Perception is of course where the band "The Doors" got their name and it, and the collection of associated essays I read at the time, really bring together why people like shiny things -- i.e., they associate them with god or a higher-being intuitively. I love essentially everything Huxley wrote (with Brave New World my least favorite), but his essays are fucking great!
    The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" - Great story, sci-fi, and allegory, a la "Star Wars", wrt to the American Revolution.

    in contrast though, don't read: Stranger in a Strange Land - Total shit, beyond the initial premise, which is good, the book is just gratuitous New Age bullshit and will rot your brain. The only value in this book is defining the term "grok" -- I know I'll get flamed for this but it's true...

    I've got a few more, but I need to think about them more...

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    1. Re:books! by Harvey+Manfrenjenson · · Score: 1

      Down and Out in Paris and London - This is where I learned that the more you pay for food at a restaurant, the more hands have touched the food (among many other things). Also, working in a Parisian kitchen in the early 20th century is like working in fast food now.

      This is indeed a great book by Orwell... a shame it's not more widely known. The thing is that extremely poor people tend not to write books, and if it weren't for Orwell, we probably wouldn't know very much at all about what it was like to be a homeless person in London/Paris during the 1920s.

      But I'm pretty sure that Orwell's "fancy restaurant=filthy food" thesis doesn't hold up today. At least I hope not.

      Also, if you're looking for a life-altering read, I would skip "Animal Farm" (always felt that was the weakest of all Orwell's books) and go with "Politics and the English Language".

    2. Re:books! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stranger in a Strange Land was awesome for the first two thirds of the book. It's really too bad it turned, as you put it, into gratuitous New Age bullshit. "Hey everybody, discover enlightenment through the awesome power of swinging!" Heinlein and his wife really were swingers, though, so at least he actually practiced what he preached. No other book has managed to let me down so much in the second half after getting me so thoroughly engaged in the first.

  150. How about some useful books? by jimboindeutchland · · Score: 1

    Well, I guess you need to find out what's important to you and then take it from there. I would recommend "The Personal MBA" by Josh Kaufman. Before you run away in terror, it's not really a business book. Sure, it covers some business topics, but not in great detail. The idea behind this book is to briefly outline most concepts and principles that you'll encounter in a business setting. Each "topic" is about 1 page long, covering principles ranging from sales, marketing and finance through to leadership, management, psychology and personal development. The end result is a basic overview of just about topic you may encounter in your career. Each topic has a number of references which can be followed if you desire. I found this book quite interesting because it gave me some insight into the what the psychopaths running the company I work for are trying to achieve. It also gave me a starting point to further investigate a number of other topics.

    Read this book to find out what other books you need to read.

    Apart from that, I would also recommend:
    Team Geek - Fitzpatrick, Collins-Sussman (really good book!)
    Rework - 37 Signals
    Being Geek - Michael Lopp (a lot of fluff in this one though)
    Lean Startup - Eric Ries (if you're thinking of going it alone)

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  151. The Elements of Style by Penurious+Penguin · · Score: 1

    After reading the preface and fanning through the introduction, I flogged myself tattered, immediately took a vow of silence, and haven't dared utter another word since. Even hearing other people speak afterwards, my ears could not tolerate their vulgar effluence. And so I locked myself in my mother's basement and have been there since, diligently working on some kind of reasonable syntax for ESP.

    On a serious note, I suspect that if read with a little caution, it could have an impact. Maybe I'll soon dust it off and proceed.

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  152. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

    I didn't know that! But in retrospect, it makes sense; Al Gore does, after all, have a 4-digit uid.

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  153. When I worked at Amazon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I had been promoted four times while working at Amazon, I would have been a Director. Another four times and I would have been CEO.

    Software Development Engineer I (SDE) -> SDE II -> Manager -> Senior Manager -> Director
    -> Senior Director -> Vice President -> Senior Vice President -> President & CEO

    or if I had stayed an SDE, four promotions would have maxed me out at SDE V. A better plan would have been to switch to Principal Engineer after SDE III. Then the fourth promotion would have left me at Senior Principal Engineer. A fifth promotion could have taken me either to Fellow or into management at the Senior Director level.

    Four promotions is a lot in a twelve year career. Why do you feel unsatisfied with that rate?

  154. Or even shorter ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsig. It can help you to look at life in a different way...

    Read it once .. read it twice .. then read The Tao Of Poo and realized that this small book managed to capture and impart all of the same concepts in something that could be easily read in an afternoon.

    Zen in the Art of Archery.

    Of all the books on Zen and Taoism I have read - including the ones mentioned in all the posts above, "Zen in the Art of Archery" captures the soul and meaning of Zen the best - in 81 pages. The size of the book is even Zen.

    Even books by the Asian Zen masters - like DT.Suzuki - haven't achieved what that little book was able to do.

    1. Re:Or even shorter ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right. Asian Zen masters like, uhhh, DT Suzuki, who hanged out with Beat Poets or some shit.

      Do you know any Zen masters who people in Asia have heard of? Or, who were acknowledged by other Buddhists as being expert in the religion?

    2. Re:Or even shorter ... by rogo78 · · Score: 1

      Just don't make the mistake of believing that Zen in the Art of Archery actually represents how kyudo is actually taught:

      http://www.thezensite.com/ZenBookReviews/Shots_in_the_Dark.html

      Herrigel is a bundle of contradictions. At the very least he started the "Zen in..." and "Zen and..." memes.

  155. The 7 Habbits of Highly Effective People by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I grew up in a secular house, and it was my personal 'bible' before I even knew what the Bible was to religious people.

  156. Re:Atlas Shrugged by cheesecake23 · · Score: 1

    Atlas Shrugged
    fantastic book
    Atlas Shrugged part 2 is in theaters today as luck would have it

    Yes, "as luck would have it" that misanthropic bile is in theaters today, and the timing with the ongoing US elections is purely coincidental.

    I also assume that you were just as "lucky" to get first post with this book recommendation, and that you have absolutely no connection with the person who submitted this to Ask Slashdot in the first place.

  157. The one that makes you a success.... by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    How to win friends and influence people. Flat out 900X better and more important than ANY other book out there, and should be required reading for most people yearly.

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  158. Re:Not the Bible. by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

    So both the Christian and the atheist are equally screwed, then. They both come from a position that cannot logically be defended.

  159. Re:Atlas Shrugged by BanteringCTO · · Score: 1

    Most of the people who criticize Atlas Shrugged haven't read it, even if they say they have. It's a great book. I second the recommendation!

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  160. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's quite simple: It tells a certain kind of person exactly what he wishes to hear. The fact that it's a message that overlaps with the cultural mythology of the United States (the "rugged individualism" trope) makes it appealing to those who've been raised to buy into that. It's (lack of) literary value (much like a vice/presidential candidate's debate performance) is irrelevant to a true believer.

  161. Ah the mid-life/mid-career crisis by robbo · · Score: 2

    More likely your second because most men have their first one in their 20s, when adulthood turns out to be not at all like what you expected.

    Rather than fish for books, I'd recommend having a look around at your friends, workmates, and acquaintances about your age or a little older and identify three things:
    1. Who is having the most fun?
    2. Who has reasonable job security, to the extent that exists today?
    3. What skills do they have that you don't?

    Use these things to guide your choices for skills to develop- maybe they are technical, or maybe they are people skills, but you'll be working towards filling a deficit that can open new/better opportunities for you.

    Personally, I think there is limited benefit to enhancing coding skills, such as learning a new language or framework- they are a dime a dozen and the industry always has a new fad. On the other hand I think there's a lot of value in learning new analytical skills. Everyone and their dog wants to mine actionable intelligence from their customer data and the ability to scrub, synthesize and model is a key asset. Plus when the data is sufficiently rich it can be a lot of fun compared to setting up yet another web site. If you want to take it all the way to home plate, pick up some machine learning skills, eg by taking one of the Stanford or Udacity online courses and dazzle your employers with your ability to predict that your customer is pregnant... ;-)

    btw, IMO a promo every three years seems about par for the course- not fantastic but nothing to complain about. The real difficulty is that promotion velocity tends to slow over time, since there can only be so many head chefs.

    $0.02

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    1. Re:Ah the mid-life/mid-career crisis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the best advice in this thread. I don't think a promotion every 3 years is bad. People who grow too fast may grow soon incompetent since they take their growth for granted.
      I am kind of in same position but I have been actively following Stanford and Udacity courses and if not growth I am getting a new persepective. I may not have immediate gains but I am positive it will soon open up something new.

  162. Re:Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Bra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you like it, be sure to check out the "sequel", I Am a Strange Loop; it summarizes his earlier work in GEB in about two chapters, and the exploration from there is illuminating.

    Since we're summarizing: Obligatory.

  163. Speaking of Humour..... Mad Magazine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...technically not a book, but as a child, I was given a box full of Mad Magazines containing almost every issue from around the mid-late 1950's thru the 1970's.
    What a treasure that was to read... and yes it had a serious impact on my childhood development and sense of humour.

  164. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Have you actually read it? I find that most people that "rejoice it" have not. It's full of rape scenes.. In fact all of her books are focused on rape fantasy... Very very odd.

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  165. Start With Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    by Simon Sinek. Excellent insight into human motivation. Also, it's unofficial companion book, Drive by Daniel M. Pink.

  166. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    Only those that have a very low IQ and can not read above a 14th grade level enjoy it. It's young adult fiction with a protagonist rape fetish.

    And yes, the rest of you in the world are correct, It is utter tripe written by a 5th rate author that only got published because of her connections and money.

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  167. Everything from Asimov's Foundation/Empire Series by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those are very intelligent books. Anything that causes you to think critically is a great boon in my mind. Anything hard-science sci-fi, or sci-fi political will at least make you think more while enjoying it.

    On the non-fiction end, Hacking: The Art of Exploitation has been a mainstay on my bookshelf for years. Most of the information is dated, but I've lent it to kids who show an aptitude for computers and are interested in security, and that was their launching pad into serious study.

    Hmmm.. Dennis Ritchie. If you have any interest in programming, you have to pick up The C Programming Language. That man is was a savior for many of us geeks when it came to programming.

  168. Kelly and Pohl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "A Book on C" and "C by Dissection"

  169. Two Girls One Cup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The book has a lot of detail the movie version missed.

  170. Life altering book? by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2

    Diesel Traction - A Manual for Enginemen

    My late father found a copy of this in an old railway workshop he was converting into a heavy goods vehicle workshop and brought it home, when I was about six or seven years old. I picked it up and read it, fascinated by the cutaway diagrams of the engines and gearboxes that went into the different styles of locomotive, and the circuit diagrams of all the control gear. There were detailed explanations of how the automatic gearboxes in diesel-mechanical locomotives worked, and how the injector pump, fuel rack and injectors worked in a diesel engine.

    At that point, I realised that while I would probably never work on a 1962 diesel railcar, I held in my hand the key to knowing *everything*. All I needed to understand absolutely anything I ever encountered was the right diagram, and the mental toolkit to look at what was in front of me and understand how different parts work together as part of a whole system. From that moment onwards everything else was easy.

    You've just got to look at things and see the exploded diagram in your mind's eye.

  171. Re:Not the Bible. by gameboyhippo · · Score: 1

    AC argues that answering "The Bible" plays to the crowd.

    I then replied:

    Your answer ... plays to the Slashdot crowd.

    You children do realize that marking me as troll and marking flamebait as insightful plays directly into my argument, right? Just sayin

  172. Re:First by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got first

    Who wrote this? I checked Amazon and Google Books and found nothing, so I'm guessing it's obscure. Then again, I only checked the top-10 results for each. Do you have an ISBN?

    It's by Anonymous Coward, but his cousin Noel is a better writer.

  173. Mountain Girl by mushmouse · · Score: 1

    The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test

    1. Re:Mountain Girl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Out of mod points -- mod up anything by Tom Wolfe. Also anything by Ken Kesey (who is the subject of Acid Test).

  174. John Irving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    John Irving. Read them all, starting with the oldest. They teach life.

    1. Re:John Irving by iamnobody2 · · Score: 2

      i love John Irving, i wouldn't suggest anyone start with his first few books though. the three essential John Irving books are A Prayer For Owen Meany, The Cider House Rules and The World According To Garp. read those in any order, then read some more in any order, if you are so inclined

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    2. Re:John Irving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, good old life. Nothing but sentimental rubbish.

  175. Soul of a new machine by Tracy Kidder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This book caused me to pick up engineering, and has had a dramatic effect on my approach and understanding to life and computers.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Soul_of_a_New_Machine

  176. Science fiction books. by macraig · · Score: 1

    Yes, science fiction books, which my high school English teacher declared were unfit to be described as literature and refused to allow book reports that relied upon one. Not any one specific science fiction book, though, but rather many of them collectively; considered together as a whole they have a truly profound impact on a person who reads many of them, as I did. I dare not play favorites except to single out science fiction in general; the only other book that was perhaps transformative was the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics, which I acquired my sophomore year in high school, but the damage had already been done long before by all the SF books I had already consumed.

    I was also deeply affected by the movies Swiss Family Robinson and Silent Running, the latter which while still science fiction was obviously not a book.

    Oh... and I suppose I was influenced by the inconsistencies and weirdness in the Christian Bible to be an early non-theist and naturalist. The SF books certainly helped guide me to that conclusion, too.

  177. I was an odd kid... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    I LOVED 1984. that one really shook me and I had to read it again as soon as I finished it. Friday by Heinlein, was another that I devoured and introduced me to open thinking. Slaughterhouse five was another one that made me Adore Vonnegut, until I found out he was a turd-head. He can write, but he is a waste of a human being.

    After that I devoured everything From Heinlein, and went on a Sci-Fi Bender that is still raging to this day. one of my favorite 3 book series by Alan Dean Foster.... Icerigger, Mission to Moulikin, and the Deluge divers.

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  178. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And yes, the rest of you in the world are correct, It is utter tripe written by a 5th rate author that only got published because of her connections and money.

    Wow, I didn't think anyone would play the "jews run the world" card in a thread about Atlas Shrugged. Congrats!

  179. promotions matter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you don't have the personality to be a manager, I don't see why you would care about any other promotion aside from Junior to Senior and job satisfaction.

    That being said, I think Dawkin's The Selfish Gene and Hofstadter's Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid had the largest impact on me.

  180. Catch-22 by bitingduck · · Score: 1

    Often seen as an anti-vietnam war book, it was written well before that. It's much more about people in large nonsensical organizations.

    1. Re:Catch-22 by nazsco · · Score: 1

      as usual, great book. avoid the movie like the plague.

  181. 4 times in 12 years? Underachiver? by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    4 times in 12 years? Underachiver?
    You, my friend, have a serious problem. A self-esteem problem. Being promoted at an avarage of every 3 years is what the large majority dream of. If that (and your low self-esteem, which appears to derive itself from amounts of promotion/year) is what's troubling you, these books, all of which have had life-changing impact on mine, are the type you should be reading and looking for:

    Seneca "Letters from a Stoic" - its roughly 2000 years old iirc and thus public domain (downloads all over the web). .... The best things in life are free.
    Seneca was a bizarly rich and very powerfull man in Rome back in the day and is one of the more popular members of the 'Stoic' school of philosophy. Stoicisim is basically the western variant of zen buddism, without the weird stuff. Cult of Less, Lean living, focussing on the spiritual and mental, etc. ... It's all there and all started here. A must read for any educated citizen. And, btw., at the same time more comforting than any of the religios scripts can ever be imho. Whenever you're in a jam, take out seneca, read a few pages and you feel like someones breathed new life into you. If you think philosophy is for nutcases, you haven't been looking further back enough. The last 300 years have mostly been shit, but this guy is for real. No intelectual masturbating and no bullshit from this guy. Promise.

    Marie 'Shakti' Gawain "Creative Visualisation"
    Your standard 101 new age positive thinking book. A classic. Cheap, short, to the point. Where Joseph J. Murphy, Norman Vincent Peale, Rhonda Byrne and all the rest go on babbling for endless pages (and sometimes many books) Shakti Gawain cuts straight to the chase. A must for every bookshelf. Read this one and you'll know all there is to know about positive thinking and you'll get a neat stomachable dose of uplifting new age along with it. As with seneca I always go back to Gawain when in trouble and looking for advice on how to condition myself for the next trials. This little book has been with me for 25 years and it never grows old.

    Tim Ferriss - "The four hour workweek"
    This guy deserves some credit, if only for tipping me of on stoicism and seneca. The four hour workweek is basically a modern lifestyle design guide, a kind of 'Stoicism implementation plan'. I ran into this one a few years ago (when it was in the lists) and had quite a few usefull inspirations from it. His blog can be worth a read aswell, he also does (i)regular web chatshows with Kevin Rose of digg.com fame. Very funny and entertaining. Currently the latest article on his blog is on another stoic of ancient Rome, Cato.

    Chris Guillebeau "The Art of Non-Conformity"
    Guillebeau is sort of the less boastfull Tim Ferriss. If Ferris is to much haming and dick-waving for your taste, do at least try this guy. The book has similarities with FHWW, but also its own approach to the subject matter. Also very inspiring and well worth the money and time.

    Jason Fried & David Heinemeier Hansson "Rework"
    Result oriented working in the brave new digital age. If there is a book that will lift your spirits and change your habits and workstyle for the better right away, in your current line of work, then it is this one. A must read for you and your co-workers once your done with it. The HR Chief of a large software corporation I once worked for came in one day carrying a stack of copies of "Rework" and just put them into the companies library. Didn't even bother registrating them with codes and tags first. Very smart move.

    Anything from Alan Watts
    The western zen buddhist. He changed me from a kid scared of life and death into a human being by introducing me to non-confessional, free zen buddhism. His explainations and lectures are top notch, very comforting and carry lots of weight. I can't tell if you'll still be as inspired once you've read Seneca, but I ran

    --
    We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
  182. Re:Atlas Shrugged by ski9826 · · Score: 2

    I thought that was a fantastic book as well.

  183. The Road to Serfdom by udachny · · Score: 1

    The Road to Serfdom

    Now, I am not saying that it will change your life or anything like that, but it is a very good book for people stuck in the modern era of government worshiping.

    1. Re:The Road to Serfdom by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      The Road to Serfdom

      Was he trying to be ironic with the title? Because if anything is a guaranteed route to serfdom, it is Austrian economic (especially at the extreme measures that you and other ron paul worshippers advocate).

      That, or the author is using a different definition of serf than what most people are familiar with. Most people remember that serfs were essentially the property of their lords; they did not own the property they lived on or much of anything else. They had pretty well no rights as humans and could be evicted or fired with no notice or recourse. They could be conscripted into military service and they had to give all their yields from their work to their masters.

      Basically, it is the same situation we would be in if all the economic policies you so fervently advocate were enacted. You just seem to be in the illusion that you would be on top this time rather than being a serf yourself.

      --
      Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
    2. Re:The Road to Serfdom by Doctor_Jest · · Score: 1

      The problem isn't the application of Austrian Economics... it's the mistaken belief in the benevolence of the State. If we were to attempt a logical free market with an arbiter that has nothing to gain by backing one entity over another, we'd be a lot better off. However, we have allowed the State (and by that, I mean the Federal Government) to become the referee in a WWE wrestling match... not impartial, not concerned with the tenets of a level playing field, and certainly not concerned about the audience.

      Until we can break the illusion that the State is benevolent and only wants what is good for us, we'll have people ridiculing Austrian Economics (indeed free market in general) like it was some sort of curse and the effective "trading of one slave master for another"....

      --
      It's the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man.
    3. Re:The Road to Serfdom by udachny · · Score: 1

      USA has attempted mostly free market and it worked wonders. 1870 to 1913 was a pretty good stretch of mostly free market. Certainly it was free of gov't printing money, setting interest rates, regulating businesses in almost every way, stealing income from people as taxes, regulating labour.

      There was no FBI, CIA, Fed, FDIC, IRS, FHA, EPA, FDA, FAA, FCC, HUD, SS, Medicare, Medicaid, dep't of energy, agriculture, education, interior, small business. There was no Patriot Act, NDAA, illegal undeclared wars, military industrial complex, 1000 or so military bases around the world and the entire 'world domination' narrative didn't exist.

      That's when USA actually became the super productive nation, turning from a huge debtor to the world's largest manufacturer, exporter and creditor.

      So that was tried in USA.

      It is now practiced in other places, Hong Kong, Singapore, mainland China even, Switzerland to a larger degree than anywhere else in the world.

      Even Scandinavia with its supposedly 'welfare state' is actually moving in the right direction, running trade surpluses, constantly reducing income taxes, creating a better environment for business opportunities. They have learned from the terrible outcome and disaster that they have experienced 20 years ago.

    4. Re:The Road to Serfdom by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      Until we can break the illusion that the State is benevolent and only wants what is good for us, we'll have people ridiculing Austrian Economics (indeed free market in general) like it was some sort of curse and the effective "trading of one slave master for another"....

      You appear to be a believer in the illusion of the uncontrolled and unrestricted free market somehow being a benevolent master. We have seen what happens when the US economy has no controls whatsoever; that time was when employees were treated as property to be bought, sold, beaten, and raped. Perhaps you are reasonable enough to realize that going to that extreme would be a terrible idea from the viewpoint of (at least) 99.9% of the population, however roman_mir (the first account of udachny, who I replied to) does not.

      There are, indeed, times when the government should be called upon to step in and protect those who cannot protect themselves. An unrestricted market will do absolutely nothing to protect those people, indeed it will reward their exploitation.

      --
      Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
  184. Most impact on my life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Getting Things Done by David Allen.

  185. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And yet it can be overstated.

    You didn't say anything I don't recognize, that's the point of my comment, bringing it up is pointless, you're not contributing anything of note. If we were talking about an alien, I could possibly understand it, but from one to another?

    Yeah, it's just an off-putting strategy that shows more as depersonalization than genuine communication.

  186. Gurdjieff by robot5x · · Score: 1

    Meetings with remarkable men, by Gurdjieff

    really had a big impact on me. Apart from being the most 'readable' of all his works by a factor of about 10000000, it opened my mind to the possibilities of life like no other book has.

    --
    Hej! Nasi tu byli!
    1. Re:Gurdjieff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, a good one. Gurdjieff is an interesting character to try to understand. His teachings live on (sort of) with the remnants of the Rochester (New York) Folk Art Guild, started by one of his students.

  187. Expert C programming by johnjaydk · · Score: 2

    by Peter van der Linden

    A profound influence that made me aware of the depth of programming expertise.

    Unfortunately PvdL's recent books doesn't live up to this awesome tome.

    --
    TCAP-Abort
  188. Hiring in the Bay Area by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So I know you mentioned that school is not an option, but I strongly suggest you think again about that. Just go to WGU and get your Bachelor's. It's a lot easier to do and the degree is actually worth something. I have a friend who is in his masters program at Harvard after having finished his Bachelor's at WGU. Either way, I work for a great tech company here in the Bay Area and we are literally ALWAYS hiring and promoting people as we are growing faster than most companies. Maybe contact me somehow and I can look at your resume. It's for IT Consulting jobs, so if that's up your alley, then it may work out.

    Adios

    mcconti @ gmail.com

  189. Read in this order: by semateos · · Score: 2

    1. The Blind Watchmaker - Dawkin's - permanently fixed in my mind how life on earth works.
    2. How the Mind Works - Steven Pinker - still among the best, easiest to read and most comprehensive view of cognitive science.
    3. Thinking, Fast and Slow - Daniel Kahneman - though a life of clever experiments he discovered many bugs in human cognitive process - so you know what mistakes to look out for in your own mind.
    4. I am a Strange Loop - Douglas Hofstadter - deal with the sadness of nothingness after death.
    5. Daring Greatly - Brene Brown - how and why to live authentically and not let fear/embarrassment/shame/guilt/etc. get in your way.
    6. Getting Things Done - how to get organized so you can make progress toward your goals.

    7. Profit!

  190. This can only end badly... ... or maybe good. by atrocious+cowpat · · Score: 1

    If you think there is that one book that will turn your life around I fear you're in for a disappointment.

    Yes, there are straight-up self-help-books [non-fiction] that claim to do so (or people who claim those books work that way). Then there are some [fictional] books that are often claimed to have a guaranteed, immediate impact on you life (eg Atlas Shrugged, The Hitchhiker's Guide, various religious books).

    I fear that none of those books will do anything for you if you're not ready to take from books what they can actually offer: insights into different ways of thinking, of storytelling, glimpses into different realities. I'd say it doesn't matter much what you read... the point is: you should read a lot.

    I'm trying not to give any kind of general advice here, just telling how it worked/works for me. I read everything: The back of cereal boxes, novels, blogs, wikipedia, fiction (well, that was covered by "novels", wasn't it?), non-fiction, you name it. The thing is: I enjoy it. It's not some kind of plan I set up one day: "Read Everything!" Rather it's a pastime I developed over many years that has given me thousands of hours of fun, procrastination -- and the occasional very, very good insight.

    Try it... but don't be too disappointed if it doesn't work out for you (*). You say you "need to do something to enhance [your] career"... well, maybe it's not in books. What (I believe) you crave is more insight into life, yours, others, the worlds. You may get to books on a more circuitious route -- find/remember something you really care about, do it, experience it, maybe later start reading about it -- and go off on tangents -- that's what "reading" really is all about. Did I mention you have to give it (yourself) a lot of time? [Oh bother, there I go, making "self-help"-statements...]

    Well, while I'm at it I might ad this little nugget: whatever books the other people in this thread suggest: you may confidently skip those. Unless something actually intrigues you. But as long as you feel you have to read a particular book probably not much good will come from it.

    ac

    (*) I, at one point, realized computer games were a legitimate and culturally significant form of art. I find them utterly fascinating, love to read about them... yet for the life of me I can't get the hang of them. So far I've found every "game" I've played tedious grinding.

    --
    sig? Oh, that sig...
  191. I was in a similar predicament myself by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1

    A very short while ago I was stagnating as well. Hadn't picked up any new skills in a while, been in the same job for over ten years and getting into a comfort zone that would make it very hard for me to be hired if anything were to happen. I even considered changing jobs to shake things up a little, but that's not really feasible at this point. So here's what I've done:

    1 - Bought a condo, that has given me a new lease of life and I feel a whole lot better from that alone
    2 - Drew up a high-school style schedule. Each day I have a program of a few hours worth of things that I work my way through (time permitting, assuming work isn't busy) subject by subject. I have a binder organized into sections just like I had in school. I've picked a language that I want to learn and downloaded a self-teaching book on it. There's a handful of topics that I'm learning through DVDs from The Teaching Company. I'm brushing up on my knowledge of web technologies that I need to know better by working through some Manning books. Another subject I'm brushing up on is math since I didn't fully grasp it in college, so I've resurrected my old trustee textbook (Engineering Mathematics by KA Stroud) and I've gone back to basics and I'm working through the book and making sure I fully understand each topic. I've got a Teaching Company DVD on Calculus too, so I'm incorporating that into my course. I give myself homework to do as well. Just treat it like school.
    3 - Want to a few Kaizen Dance events last weekend, which was a spiritually invigorating experience. The guy who was teaching has left the bay area now, but you might want to look into yoga for a renewing experience.

    Despite the fact that moving house has interrupted my exercise routine, I'm feeling a lot better about myself and my career even though I'm only a few weeks into my self-imposed course. There's something refreshing about being in the process of picking up new knowledge.

    --
    Drill baby drill - on Mars
  192. Infinite Jest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Saw what you will about the hype surrounding the cult of David Foster Wallace, but reading Infinite Jest reinvigorated my love of literature. Since I read it, my home library has grown easily by 1000% and I've been introduced to the likes of Borges, Perec, Joyce et al. Re-reading it always sets my mind alight.

  193. Tripiaka by Andy+Prough · · Score: 1

    Read the original versions in Pali and Sanskrit. Soon you will learn that you don't need things such as "jobs", "money", "careers"... Leave the endless cycle of life, death and rebirth, pain and suffering behind.

    1. Re:Tripiaka by Andy+Prough · · Score: 1

      should be "Tripitaka" - Windows did not want to copy the "retroflex t" character.

  194. My Books by MarkvW · · Score: 1

    Tom Jones by Henry Fielding
    The Mediterranean in the Age of Philip II, by Fernand Braudel.
    Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse

  195. Re:Not the Bible. by arb+phd+slp · · Score: 1

    It's not so much that I can't handle real hardcore literature so much as I can't keep track of who is who when every character has six different nicknames that different people use interchangeably with no explanation. That made Brothers K impenetrable to me.

    --
    There's a perfect xkcd for my sig but I'm too lazy to look it up. sudo someone go find it.
  196. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    True - on one hand, you have a group of people vociferously claiming conclusive knowledge of a mystical sort that is beyond their abilities to explain - they just know it because it feels right and they haven't seen any contradictions of their beliefs; If you disagree with them, you're written off as nothing more than an ignorant savage.

    And on the other hand, you have the Christians, who will do all of that, too, but they'll pray for you while they do it.

  197. Personal MBA by Josh Kaufman by criterzzz · · Score: 1
  198. My old friend Charles Mackay... by tacokill · · Score: 1

    Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

    Written a while ago and a little tough to read at times but the lessons in that book are priceless.

  199. Der Zauberberg (The Magic Mountain) by Thomas Mann by Knuckles · · Score: 1

    n/t

    --
    "When I first heard Daydream Nation it quite frankly scared the living shit out of me." -- Matthew Stearns
  200. A simple kids book. by anarcobra · · Score: 1

    At first I thought of some of my favorite books like Discworld series, Dune, Mark Twain, Refactoring, things like that. But I think for a book that really had a significant impact on my life I would have to go back much further, to when I first started to enjoy reading. So here is my list: The very hungry caterpillar. My parents would read it to me every night when I was young. Een motorboot voor een drijvend flesje. (A motorboat for a floating bottle) This is the first book that I remember reading and not wanting to stop reading even when it was finished. In a way I think that this book is the one that really got me into reading. Before this the only reading I did was for school. The caves of steel. My first real introduction to science fiction, and pretty much convinced me what my favorite category of books is. Probably not very special books on their own, but I feel like they influenced my reading significantly.

    1. Re:A simple kids book. by anarcobra · · Score: 1

      In hindsight I should have read the summary before posting.

  201. The Power of Now by quackPOT · · Score: 1

    by Eckhart Tolle

    That book had a profound impact on my life. Totally worth the $10!

    http://www.amazon.com/Power-Now-Guide-Spiritual-Enlightenment/dp/1577314808

  202. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If one chooses the bible, I expect them to tell me which book of the bible.

    Why do you expect them to tell you which book of the bible? Is it because you don't want to hear that answer so you impose criteria on the response?

  203. In absolutely no order by Brian+Feldman · · Score: 1

    The C Programming Language
    Dragon of the Lost Sea
    The Science of Language
    The Myth of Freedom and the Way of Meditation
    Good Germs, Bad Germs
    Food of the Gods
    Brave New World
    1984
    Fahrenheit 451
    The Wheel of Time
    The C++ Programming Language
    The Jungle
    The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System
    Cryptonomicon
    Childhood's End

    --
    Brian Fundakowski Feldman
    1. Re:In absolutely no order by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 1

      Cryptonomicon was awesome. I suspect that people without some programming background would not like it. A book written for people with half a brain.

  204. Jules Verne by Jerry+Smith · · Score: 1

    I alway felt very comfortable with his writings when I was a little Jerry. Century-old excitement, what's not to love! :) Before him I read Paul d' Ivoy, after him H. G. Wells.
    Everything else forks from there. Clarke, Asimov, Vroon, Heinlein, Ellison, they made me see what I wanted, and left me pining for the future. And now in a teaching job, and trying to find little Jerry's, the same dreamers, knowing to dream, not wanting to wake up.

    --
    All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.
  205. The Dictionary by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    All the other books are in there.

    --
    It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
  206. Mondo Piccolo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The combination of satire, politics and sheer humanity in post WW-2 Italy has truly shaped my world view. While not considered one of the great works of literature and not being SF, Giovannino Guareschi struck a chord there. No matter how much you oppose someone, they are _still_ human. The global village and it's combined political leaders could learn a thing or two from Peppone, Don Camillo and the little world that is Boscaccio.

  207. Anything by R. Buckminster Fuller by ThePackager · · Score: 1

    G.R.U.N.C.H. of Giants, Critical Path and Operating Manual for Spaceship Earth are my faves

    --
    Please have respect for people with different abilities, especially children.
  208. Re:Not the Bible. by icebraining · · Score: 1

    Just like to point out that atheists claim nothing of a sort. That's just gnostic atheists. We agnostic atheists find them silly too.

  209. I'm confused? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like how you say your an underachieving person and then go on to say you won't do anything but do what you do currently. Maybe that Is the issue? maybe you could read a book about trying something different? seriously don't complain about being an underachiever and then tell us how you're not going to change

  210. books by JDHannan · · Score: 1

    "You ever read a book that changed your life? Me neither." - Jim Gaffigan

  211. Self-Reliance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Self-Reliance by Ralph Waldo Emerson.
    Accept responsibility for your actions. No excuses. For example, if you break an unjust law, accept your punishment, do not become cry-baby because it is an unfair unjust law. Be a man.

  212. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your english teacher was right: most western literature (and lots of western music that's not just Skrillex-level "untz untz untz" bullshit) is littered with references to Christian mythology and biblical references, and being familiar with them will certainly expand the meanings of what you read, even if you're not a believer in the Bible as "god's word."

    Here's a passage many Slashdotters are probably familiar with - from Ender's Shadow - which refers to a very minor story in the Bible:

    "O my son Absalom," Bean said softly, knowing for the first time the kind of anguish that could tear such words from a man's mouth, "my son, my son Absalom. Would God I could die for thee, O Absalom, my son. My sons!"

    If you know the story more than the quick recap Card provides ahead of this line, it's an immensely moving moment in the story. If you aren't familiar with it, you realize that it's just "oh some bible thing, I guess it must've been sad."

  213. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ezekiel and isaiah
        those dudes got abducted by ufos thousands of years ago---the stories from modern day "abductees" and those two stories of the bible are almost exacty alike----that really blew my mind when i read that, whether its truly aliens or figments of imagination???
    the truth is out there?

  214. Not all Impacts Are Good by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 1

    The book that most significantly impacted my life, as well as being the best book I've ever read, is House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski.

    I do not advise others to read it though, as it will suck out your soul and leave an empty shell of a person.

  215. Re:Not the Bible. by JustOK · · Score: 1

    have faith

    --
    rewriting history since 2109
  216. mainly Heinlein by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

    The Moon is a Harsh Mistress Citizen of the Galaxy

    1. Re:mainly Heinlein by proca · · Score: 1

      I recently re-read a lot of Heinlein books, including the Moon is a Harsh Mistress and found that I now see his writing for what it is. He is misogynistic, preachy, and focuses on polygamy and nudity obsessively and at length in several of his books. Even Stranger in a Strange Land turned absolutely retarded at about the halfway mark.

    2. Re:mainly Heinlein by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

      I recently re-read a lot of Heinlein books, including the Moon is a Harsh Mistress and found that I now see his writing for what it is. He is misogynistic, preachy, and focuses on polygamy and nudity obsessively and at length in several of his books. Even Stranger in a Strange Land turned absolutely retarded at about the halfway mark.

      You should definitely not learn the wrong lessons from reading old (or any) fiction. That doesn't mean you can't get something of value out of it. I've never been a fan of Stranger in a Strange Land.

  217. Don't get me started... by westlake · · Score: 1

    To understand the richness and power of the English language you need to know both Shakespeare and the King James Bible.

    Re-discover American pulp fiction.

    Here are three mammoth, affordable, 1,000+ page paperback anthologies to get you started, all edited by Otto Penzler:

    The Big Book of Adventure Stories
      The Black Lizard Big Book of Pulps
      The Black Lizard Big Book of Black Mask Stories

    History as narrative.

    Francis Parkman : France and England in North America {2 vols)
      This Republic of Suffering: Death and the American Civil War
      The Guns of August and The Proud Tower
      A.J. Liebling: World War II Writings

    Adler

    How To Read A Book
      How To Speak and How To Listen

  218. Influential books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Books that were influential to me (not just ones that were fun to read), and why.

    -- Basic Economics, by Sowell (A book that everyone should read, and if they did, the world would be a better place, as people wouldn't fall for all of the bogus economic arguments and beliefs that are commonly held.)
    -- How to Win Friends and Influence People, by Carnegie (A great book on how to interact with people -- useful not just for sales people, not even just for workers, --but useful for everyone.)
    -- You Can Negotiate Anything, by Cohen (Exellent book on how to negotiate, including many practical, useful techniques. Very, very useful in business and everyday life.)
    -- Why Government Doesn't Work, by Brown (This is the book that made me a libertarian, but even if you aren't, gives a good perspective on why folks should have a healthy amount of skepticism about large centralized governments.)
    -- This Time is Different, by Reinhart and Rogoff (Financial analysis of booms and busts over the past 800 years. Outstanding -- will clearly show the trouble we are in today that most people don't fully recognize -- but scholarly. For a book that draws from its material and is more readable, though not at all as scholarly, see Endgame, by Mauldin and Tepper.)
    -- With the Old Breed, by Sledge (A thorough, masterfully written, first-hand account of what war was really like. If you read one book about war ever, this should be it.)
    -- The Billion Dollar Molecule, by Werth (Gives an accurate view of how startup business really works, including all of the seedy stuff that goes on, at least the segment of it that travels the path from VC funding to IPO. Centered around biotech, but many aspects described are not specific to that business segment.)
    -- The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, by Gibbon (Read at least volume 1. Many of our governmental follies are the same ones experienced 2000 years ago. Reading this is to learn from the past.)
    -- No Simple Victory, by Davies (A history of WWII that includes lots of perspective lacking from most western accounts. 80% of the war in Europe was fought between the Soviet Union and Germany -- this book puts things into perspective.)
    -- The History of the English Speaking Peoples, Vol 1, by Churchill (History of Britain prior to founding of America. Good to know what happened, what life was like, and how nations were formed in the old days.)

  219. Don't read! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reading as a substitute for living is pretty lame.

    Don't waste your life reading. Take up sports.

    If you train for life like you train for a sport, you won't be in a rut at age 40.

  220. Re:Atlas Shrugged by hazah · · Score: 1

    Not odd, just not your thing. If it's a fantasy then the subject is willing, and you cannot rape the willing. I never understood why the uninvolved feel the need to normalize everyone else's sexual preferences. Especially when there is no norm to speak of.

  221. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Larryish · · Score: 1

    Maybe Ayn Rand liked to be tied up and fucked?

    I'm Just sayin'

  222. Didn't see it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... so I thought I'd mention it: The Soul of a New Machine. This supported my feeling that one CAN do what you set out to do as long as you're willing to work and no care where the credit goes. To me, it also showcased the importance of the individual.

    Ironic captcha: action

  223. Re:Not the Bible. by hazah · · Score: 1

    I wonder how this touches on someone like myself who is neither and conciders both the question and the answer absolutely irrelevant. I tend to find all 3 positions "silly". Much like I find dogs chasing their own tails "silly". Can't seem to break away from the obvious parallel there.

  224. Didnt change my life but made me rethink a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jesus Interrupted as well as Misquoting Jesus by Bart D Ehrman. He is a biblical scholar that looks at the bible in a different way (the way it should be viewed). As a conglomerate of many books written at different times by different people with different agendas.

  225. Re:Not the Bible. by hazah · · Score: 1

    You're trying to cater to an intelect. I'm sure you understand why that doesn't actually work in real life...

  226. The Bible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Take the time to read the complete Bible.

  227. A few other books by eulernet · · Score: 1

    I have only been promoted four times in my 12-year career

    It's quite an achievement ! I have never been promoted in my 30-year career, I'm still a programmer.

    From what you wrote, "meaning" has been lost in your life.
    Finding meaning is not as simple as one might think.

    Anyway, here are a few more books not mentioned above, sorted by decreasing order of which will probably help you most.

    "Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor E. Frankl (a powerful book about finding meaning in your life)
    "Radical Honesty: How to Transform Your Life by Telling the Truth" by Brad Blanton (honesty is hard, but so liberating)
    "Constructive Thinking" by Seymour Epstein (the most interesting approach to change your beliefs)
    "How To Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie (very practical book)
    "Aha!" by Martin Gardner (it will help you realize what is Aha in logic, it's similar to Eureka)

    But the most important things cannot be found in books.
    I would recommend that you experiment stopping your thoughts, in order to discover who you are.
    I strongly encourage you to practice this:
    http://www.sriramanamaharshi.org/downloads/who_am_I.pdf by Sri Ramana Maharshi
    my life has deeply changed since I practiced the technique, the first side-effect is that I'm feeling more connected to others.

  228. Three That Immediately Pop Into My Mind... by Zamphatta · · Score: 1
  229. Re:Not the Bible. by hazah · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do you realize that the bible is the literary basis for pretty much all of the western hemisphere? Ignorance is NOT bliss, and it's an invaluable source of understanding the perticular predicements we are currently finding ourselves in too.

  230. Get a book list. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Start with "1001 Books You Must Read Before You Die: Revised and Updated Edition" by Peter Boxall.

  231. A list... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tao Te Ching
    The Once and Future King/Book of Merlin
    Murder in the Cathedral
    Morte D'Arthur
    Foundation Trilogy

  232. Illustrating Basic - Donald Alcock by UnoriginalBoringNick · · Score: 1

    It may seem crude and irrelevant today but had I not read that book sometime in the late 70s / early 80s I would not be:

    Typing this post on slashdot
    Sitting in front of this computer
    Living in this country

    (It remains to be seen if any of the above are good things...)

    http://www.amazon.com/Illustrating-BASIC-Donald-G-Alcock/dp/0521217032

  233. Orson Scott Card by BluPhenix316 · · Score: 1

    A lot of the books I was thinking about have already been mentioned but a series that has not is the Ender Series by Orson Scott Card. A simple misunderstanding could lead the demise of a entire civilization. Another point that really still to this day has me thinking is the Ansible. That universe that exists outside the universe that is nothing but creativity. The thought of it is fascinating.

    1. Re:Orson Scott Card by BluPhenix316 · · Score: 1

      I know its bad taste to reply to my own comment, but maybe I really should read a English book and work on my grammar skills.

    2. Re:Orson Scott Card by Lt.Hawkins · · Score: 1

      Enders Game, but more for how I related to Ender as a child, than the plot lines. The values and motivations resonated with me.

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      -- My Sig is a P228.
    3. Re:Orson Scott Card by tylikcat · · Score: 1

      Though if you're going to mention the ansible, you really ought to credit Ursula K Le Guin, who wrote about it first in 1966. (I always thought it rather classy that Card so overtly credited her, maintaining her name.) It's one of the major underpinnings of her Hainish universe, and that's some damned good writing. (Including as it does The Left Hand of Darkness, and The Dispossessed, two of her best known books, and both excellent... Though I have a personal fondness for Four Ways to Forgiveness, a collection of interwoven novellas, and A Fisher of the Inland Seas, which is a collection of short stories.)

      (And do I know you? I mean, how many Blue Phoenixes are there, anyway?)

    4. Re:Orson Scott Card by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every semi-smart sci-fi nerd...

      There's a reason for that - "precocious smart child saves world" gives the outcast geek an idol, somebody they can go, "holy crap, I could be that kid, all smart and saving the world, and these people who ignore me... don't even know."

      The follow-on sequence (SftD, Xenocide, and CotM) are basically 3 long books about the importance of understanding others and stepping outside your frame of reference in an attempt to do so - i.e., empathy. To outcast geeks who are short on social skills, they might as well be books about dancing poetically - empathy as a skill is something that most outcast geeks scoff at or simply stare, blank and uncomprehending at, because it is not something they are interested in or see value in.

      That said - I agree. I think all of them are more "fun reads" than "deep stuff," but the sequels to Ender's Game have much stronger staying power than the first one.

    5. Re:Orson Scott Card by BluPhenix316 · · Score: 1

      maybe i dunno i'm not good with names

    6. Re:Orson Scott Card by tylikcat · · Score: 1

      It is most often Tylik. (Er, but I forgot the password to my old ./ account.) And if so, I know your wife better...

    7. Re:Orson Scott Card by BluPhenix316 · · Score: 1

      my wife really isn't into tech stuff, and never comes to /. Though we did live in Mannheim germany for a while, that might let you know who we are.

  234. Spiritual Texts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't believe in miracles -- I believe in science and consider myself a skeptic, but regardless I'm obsessed with spiritual texts and meditate for many hours each week and have for years now. Although I frankly still don't entirely understand what it is, I've come to believe the this spiritual development is more important than almost anything else. Probably not for everyone, but these are the books that have been the most important to me so far:

    Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse
    the Tao Te Ching
    Be Here Now by Ram Dass
    the four gospels
    The Teachings of Don Juan by Carlos Castaneda

  235. Sirens of Titan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    by Kurt Wonnegut

  236. The Information: A History, a Theory, a Flood by proca · · Score: 1

    As an older computer engineer, I would bet that your schooling is obsolete and that you haven't been keeping up on current information theory. I found The Information: A History, a Theory, a Flood by James Gleick utterly fascinating. It is long-winded at times, but it changed the way I perceive the world and changed how I approach programming and developing systems. We are on the cusp of a revolution in computer science/information theory towards semantic systems and this book gives a great glimpse into current philosophy and theory.

  237. Introducing Neuro-Linguistic Programming by dave562 · · Score: 1

    http://www.amazon.com/Introducing-NLP-Psychological-Understanding-Influencing/dp/1855383446

    I found it less useful for influencing people and more useful for understanding how the mind functions. Language is a very powerful tool once you understand how to leverage it for your benefit. Of course once you know how the mind functions, you can begin to tailor your communications for maximum impact.

  238. Re:Not the Bible. by icebraining · · Score: 2

    You may not hold a conscious position, but I don't believe it's possible to be neither. Either you hold the preposition "I believe in at least one god" to be true, or you don't. The relevance doesn't come into question.

    I don't think about the question unless someone else brings it up - much like you have now - but that doesn't mean I can't reason about my own beliefs (not faith).

    (Yes, you may also take the Ignostic position that claims the preposition to be senseless since 'god' is undefined. Nevertheless, there are some more concrete definitions of 'god'. Yahweh, for example).

  239. It's not all mental by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Two recommendations that aren't going to help your mind, directly, but will help your overall life:

    The Primal Blueprint, by Mark Sisson
    The Paleo Diet, by Loren Cordain

    "life changing" doesn't have to be about "making yourself smarter or giving yourself more skills on the job market" - life changing can be about being healthier, and frankly, lots of us geeks are pretty sedentary, unhealthy sorts. Eat better, exercise more, de-stress. Your mind will be sharper, clearer, more focused, and more capable of both learning and productivity.

    And you'll live longer, and enjoy the life you have.

    Also, a few books on writing, since written communication is usually not a strong point of geeks:

    Writing Down The Bones, by Natalie Goldberg;
    On Writing Well, by William Zinsser
    On Writing, by Stephen King
    Writing for your Readers, by Don Murray

    Learn how to communicate with people who don't speak the same jargon you do. Your career and your social life will flourish.

  240. Career stagnating = Read more books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Was OP like "OH well, my career is fucked, at least I can read more."

    My favorite reading so far: Vaults By Charles Babcock
    http://books.google.com/books?id=q48OAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Vaults&source=bl&ots=ORFVKQuieK&sig=x-NvIR9NmvCH1iKjq67uXHnJ6k8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1qF4UIvICMXE0QHF7YH4Ag&ved=0CDkQ6AEwAA

  241. old copies of Handbook of Chemistry and Physics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The ones with useful "arts and recipes" in them. How else did I learn not to spray a Carbon TetraChloride fire extinguisher on hot metal? Or to silver mirrors? or learn that air breaks down at 71 kV/inch, but a third of that with a needle gap.

    I suppose John Strong's book on making laboratory equipment was useful too. While I've not used a whole lot of the material directly (other than the sections on how do machining), it definitely inspires you and is a good stop to whiners at work who complain about not having equipment: it's from the days when you BUILT your Geiger-Muller tube or spectrophotometer or seismograph, with none of this "order it from Amazon for next day delivery nonsense".

    As a child? "The Way Things Work" (the version translated from German, in two volumes). Golden Book of Chemistry Experiments (on the web, out of copyright via lucky happenstance, because it's out of print as being too dangerous)

    As an adult? Everyone should read an Ayn Rand novel. Once when you are young and idealistic, and again 10-15 years later when you realize how silly it was that you thought it was great when you were 19 years old.
    2001- A Space Odyssey... here we are 11 years later, and we're not very close to where Clarke thought we would be when he wrote it in 1968.

    Heart of Darkness, by Conrad.. read it, then watch Apocalypse Now, then read some H.Rider Haggard or other colonial era stuff.

    The Nine Tailors, by Dorothy Sayers - so you know how a good mystery novel is written.

    Out of the Silent Planet, by C.S. Lewis - Better than Tolkien, in 1/10th the pages, but of the same era. Yeah, the religious metaphors slap you in the face, they're so obvious, but it's more interesting read than the Narnia septology.

  242. Recommend some adult books. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I look at the books people are posting here, I read most of them when I was a teenager, with some in my early 20's. They are not adult books. You can go down the route of Hofstader, Dennet, Searle and all those cog.sci guys, or get into literary fiction like Proust, Maughm or Waugh, or even classics, but in terms of what is going to improve your life at 36, you need something different.

    Get off slashdot. Get a subscription to the Economist and the Financial Times and be able to understand them from cover to cover.

    You have ruled out school, perhaps a bit prematurely. You are 36. What are you going to do for the next 40 years you are going to have to work? IT?
    Your career so far has been what, 15, 20 years tops?

    40 years of work are ahead of you.

    There are no books that will truly change your life. I really have read a lot of them, but they all point back to doing the same thing. I can tell you this and if this comment doesn't get promoted to where you get to read it, you can see what the problem with people who read slashdot is.

    Here it is:
    - You can't do it yourself.
    - Knowledge and performance are never more than %60 of anything. The rest is credentials and relationships.
    - No matter how far you take it, the alternate path may lead to some success, but does not lead back to the mainstream.
    - You may have chosen the Long Fail. If you have, accept this and move on.

    If you are truly seeking change, you may have to admit failure first. Your success has been empty, the trappings unsatisfying, and the seeming stability is false.

    Congratulations, you've got nothing. It's scary at first, but when you realize how truly free you are, it's really quite awesome.

    Good luck, dude. :)

  243. books that were important to me by smillie · · Score: 1

    In high school I read all the Sherlock Holmes books. Later I found the charactor was based on a real person, Dr. John Bell.

    The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Heinlein was an indirect study in how society is affected by resources.

    Stranger in a Strange Land also by Heinlein also about choices society makes that they aren't always aware of.

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    Dyslexics Untie!

  244. Ender's Game by Lt.Hawkins · · Score: 1

    Ender's Game, by Orson Scott Card, has subtly but surely made me who I am today. Why? I can't really say, but I suspect that if you understand Ender's motivations, then you're not far from understanding me.

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    -- My Sig is a P228.
  245. Re:Not the Bible. by __aasehi2499 · · Score: 1

    The Book of Hebrews

  246. Re:Not the Bible. by shadowofwind · · Score: 1

    That's my favorite besides Jonah, which has the additional virtue of being very short.

    Not that either is going to be of interest to someone looking to enhance their career.

  247. Go Rin No Sho (The Book of 5 Rings) by SpankyDaMonkey · · Score: 1

    For martial arts and philosophy this one is required reading. I had quotes from this stuck to my walls for years.

  248. East of Eden, A Canticle for Leibowitz, and Asimov by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From Asimov, mainly Nightfall and The Last Question, but there's quite a lot of his stuff that influenced me.

  249. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 1

    Yeah, the exact same reason why the left behind series were such a hit.

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    Well.. maybe. Or Maybe not. But Definitely not sort of.
  250. Re:Not the Bible. by __aasehi2499 · · Score: 1

    If you want logic, then you could try this on for size, it's available in its entirety online, only lasts for about forty pages:Immortality of the Soul or Resurrection of the Dead? by Oscar Cullmannand addresses the severe discontinuity that exists between the metaphysical philosophy of the ancient Greeks and the soteriology of Christendom. This discontinuity was ignored and partially syncretized to result in the keystone misconception regarding Christian eschatology that seeped in through Scholasticism in the middle ages.

  251. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 1

    Most of the people who defend Atlas Shrugged haven't read it, even if they say they have. Its a terrible book. I second the condemnation!

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    Well.. maybe. Or Maybe not. But Definitely not sort of.
  252. Miyamoto Musashi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Book of Five Rings, cant read it just once and every time you do you learn something else.

  253. Useful in Technology Organization Leadership by wonderboss · · Score: 1

    Peopleware: Productive Projects and Teams (Second Edition)

    Putt's Law and the Successful Technocrat: How to Win in the Information Age
    - When I read this one in my twenties I thought it was cynical and funny.
            Now I think it is cynical and accurate.

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    more cowbell
  254. Just read! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just read, find topics that interest you and expand your horizons. For me, I like reading books about how mathematics and physics have developed over the years, and these lead me to investigate certain areas in more detail, and I learn a new technique and/or gain a new perspective. I also like reading about military history, space exploration, computer science and literary fiction. The more I read, the more voracious my appetite becomes. A few books I've read this year that left a deep mark:

    All Quiet On The Western Front - Erich Maria Remarque
    Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid - Douglas Hofstadter
    Carrying The Fire - Michael Collins
    The Old Man And The Sea - Ernest Hemingway
    The Strangest Man: The Hidden Life of Paul Dirac, Mystic of the Atom - Graham Farmelo
    e: The Story Of A Number - Eli Maor
    The Poincare Conjecture - Donal O'Shea

    You may find your inspiration anywhere! =)

  255. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Second that. A really Zen book if there ever was one.

  256. Hardcore Zen by Darth_brooks · · Score: 1

    Hardcore Zen by Brad Warner struck a huge chord with me. There's a certain amount of cruft and drama that seems to have come along with the sequels (especially the wandering through Sex.) But it distills down *very* nicely and has opened me up to some interesting changes in my thinking.

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    There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell 'em.
  257. Re:Not the Bible. by AvitarX · · Score: 1

    No, because I initially read the question as "what book blah blah blah..." Singular.

    also, I think the other responses I've received demonstrate that it made for an interesting question, but really it was poor word play on how I read the question.

    Not so much in the /. crowd, but in general, someone that answers with a generic "the bible" doesn't really know what they are talking about (the religious types here are not typical, and I suspect have real opinions of parts and whys).

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    Wow, sent an e-mail as suggested when clicking on "use classic" banner, and got a fast response that addressed my msg
  258. Thorsten Veblen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Theory of the Leisure Class

    You don't need a promotion. You need a broker with a highspeed trading connection and some good insider information to trade on, preferably from someone who understands what a bubble is and when one is about to be reset. Read Nassir Taleb and George Soros most recent books and get to work crafting your own strategy for taking advantage of short selling.

  259. I most strongly recommend an old favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I recommend the book "Modesty: How Not to Bore Others with Inconsequential Details of Your Life in the Guise of a Request for Significant Books"

  260. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Exactly. It's why we have people earnestly talking about colonizing the galaxy and preserving the *species*, although these people are barely able to make *offspring*.

  261. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Agree !

  262. You're not a Computer Engineer!!! by fluffy99 · · Score: 1

    First, stop calling yourself a Computer Engineer unless you are actually designing computers. People who write software are called programmers. I loath the term software engineer for the same reason I don't call the janitor a sanitation engineer. Promoted every three years at the same company isn't all that bad, but you don't say how the salary is progressing. If you really want to move up quickly you probably need to move to a different company.

    I'm will to bet that you are not "in any sort of leadership/management" because you lack either good personnel, business, or project management skills. Work on improving those areas rather than technical skills, because technical skills rarely get you promoted up to higher paying management positions. Being the most technically savvy guy on the floor usually just gets you extra work. Having seniority isn't a guarantee of getting the managers job when he retires either.

  263. Easy by ComradeMauser · · Score: 1

    Definitely: Bible To a lesser extent: The Art of Computer Programming by Knuth More Effective C++ by Meyer C++ Standard Library by Josuttis To even lesser extent but still significant: Ender series by Orson Scott Card

  264. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Understated or Overstated?

  265. 3 more for consideration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would highly recommend:
    Illusions bu Richard Bach
    At the risk of sounding pretentious the next two should be read in the original Russian / Ukrainian, in fact I would say that the Bard is not worth reading in English translation - it loses all depth and meaning.
    The Bard by Taras Shevchenko and
    Notes from the Underground by Feodor Dostoevsky.
    Please note I tried to give the last two titles and authors in the original, but the Cyrillic was not supported.

  266. my most well digested books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All of my financial records.
    Upanishads
    The Disputers of the Tao (a.c. graham)
    The Wisdom of the Zohar (Tishby 3 vol set)
    I Ching
    E Dickinson
    William Blake

  267. The End of Faith, Sam Harris by Vegan+Cyclist · · Score: 1

    Dawkins is fantastic, and also his book 'The Greatest Show On Earth' should put to rest the thoughts of anyone questioning evolution...but in this area, i think Sam Harris' book really takes the cake. He didn't even write it for an atheist audience (doesn't even like the term, questions our use of it, we don't have a name for people who don't believe in Santa Claus, so why should we identify ourselves for other fictional characters?), but it's a slam dunk home run. The writing style is also fantastic...i swear my IQ temporarily goes up 10pts when i read a chapter.

    To answer the OP, this is the most influential book i've come across, and really shook up the way i think about things. Harris isn't perfect of course, and certainly some holes in some of his positions, but on the whole it's very good stuff.

    1. Re:The End of Faith, Sam Harris by okcdan · · Score: 1

      Agreed on "The End of Faith". After I read it on my kindle I had to have the hard cover. I think his book "Free Will" did something to me...I'm still not sure what though! I have a hard time maintaining a grasp on that subject, but I do find it intriguing and possibly disturbing...I think...

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      D.
    2. Re:The End of Faith, Sam Harris by jedwidz · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately I can't recommend his TV show The Enemies of Reason.

      There may have been some good bits, but all I remember is a stern-faced Dawkins trolling a New Age festival looking for a fight.

      Penn & Teller had already done it better with Bullshit. Or rather, Penn did it better, while Teller shot fish in a barrel.

  268. Four more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Illusions: The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah

    Atlas Shrugged

    The Selfish Gene

    Guns, Germs and Steel

    1. Re:Four more... by Brian+Kendig · · Score: 1

      I will second "Illusions: The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah". That got me into a lot of early Richard Bach books, primarily "The Bridge Across Forever" as well as his biographies of piloting a biplane across the midwest. They showed me a different way of looking at life. Also, "Jonathan Livingston Seagull".

  269. Motivation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A lot of people are recommend great books, lots of classics and fascinating subjects. However, since the original poster is talking about a stagnant career, I recommend a book which is definitely not a classic and few have probably read all the way through: My Boring Ass Life by Kevin Smith.

    Much of the first half is pretty slow going, little jokes and comments on day-to-day life. Boring, as the title suggests. However, the second half has some amazing inspirational stuff. His movie career, his friend's fight in his addiction against heroin I finished reading that book, with all its talks of creativity and struggle and trying new things and decided to branch out, start new projects. It really helped me turn my career around.

  270. The Book of Mormon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Nobody has said this yet and I really mean it when I say the Book of Mormon has had a significant impact on my life. It has for any person who grew up in an LDS family by virtue of being a significant part of that culture. But it also has for me because I've read it many times and I know it's true. I've personally felt the power of the Holy Ghost testify to me it's true. The Bible is also the word of God and I love reading the teachings of Jesus in the New Testament. I can definitely say that I'm a better person as a result.

    You can get a free copy of the Book of Mormon, too, or read it online.

    1. Re:The Book of Mormon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Thank you for having the balls to post what you did on a website that thoroughly despises religion.

  271. Re:Every book in high that you were supposed to re by iamnobody2 · · Score: 1

    skip salinger? skip salinger?!? why, you're nothing but a big phony!

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  272. Orson Scott Card by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every* semi-smart sci-fi nerd cites "Ender's Game" as a formative and influential work because it struck a chord with them when they were 14, 'going through shit,' and discovering angst for the first time, but the book doesn't hold up that well when reading it as an adult except in a similar way to... say... Harry Potter... Fun read. Interesting premise. Definitely geared towards teens.

    Now Card's followup trilogy: "Speaker For the Dead," "Xenocide," and "Children of the Mind," on the other hand... There is some seriously deep philosophical stuff going on in those books.

    *Yeah it's hyperbole. Who the fuck cares.

  273. Design of Everyday Things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The Design of Everyday Things" by Donald Norman.

    Shockingly useful treatise on what makes good design and why, with abundant and extremely easy-to-understand examples.

    Reading this was a Eureka Moment in understanding how interfaces of all sorts should be designed.

    Erich Boleyn

  274. Re:Not the Bible. by SolitaryMan · · Score: 2

    True - on one hand, you have a group of people vociferously claiming conclusive knowledge of a mystical sort that is beyond their abilities to explain - they just know it because it feels right and they haven't seen any contradictions of their beliefs; If you disagree with them, you're written off as nothing more than an ignorant savage.

    And on the other hand, you have the Christians, who will do all of that, too, but they'll pray for you while they do it.

    [citation needed]

    As an atheist I would be very interested in what kind of mystical knowledge I presumably claim I have.

    (And yes, I do understand that this was a joke)

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    May Peace Prevail On Earth
  275. Re:Not the Bible. by SolitaryMan · · Score: 1

    As an atheist, I tend to agree.

    Most of the rest is just plain boring.

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    May Peace Prevail On Earth
  276. Re:Not the Bible. by zugmeister · · Score: 2

    Admit it, you made those words up didn't you?

  277. Re:Not the Bible. by SolitaryMan · · Score: 1, Interesting

    No, it *is* the Bible. It's the most influential book ever, and it affects you as well, whether you agree with its teachings or not. It's the very basis for Western civilization & morality (though that morality is under attack.)

    Thank flying spaghetti monster you are wrong here. If that book would have been a basis for morality, we would see people being executed for things like cheating, saying "fuck god" and more minor shit like this.

    *Religion* is getting fit into the ethic norms of the time, not the other way around.

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    May Peace Prevail On Earth
  278. For fun and self-improvement by Walkey · · Score: 1

    For fun: The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy, by Douglas Adams. All five volumes of the trilogy :-)

    For self-improvement (and a fabulous, easy & profound read): Getting Things Done (a.k.a. GTD) by David Allen.

    GTD, if you have not already read it, and its sequel, "Making it all work", have had a profound effect on the way I organise myself. In fact so profound an effect, that I do not see the end of a string of changes that these books have triggered in me. All changes that lead to more efficiency in how I deal with personal and business projects. I use whatever I can grasp from it and whatever I am able to put into practice, every day, at work and at home. No other book has done this for me.

    I hope you choose to pick GTD & I hope that you will enjoy.

  279. Splinter of the Mind's Eye by ukemike · · Score: 1

    Splinter of the Mind's Eye, I think by Alan Dean Foster, was the first book I ever read, which lead to a life long love of reading.

    The Bible, largely responsible for converting me to atheism.

    Snow Crash lead to me reading all of Stephenson's books. I have about 2.5 shelf-feet of his books and I've read them all about 5 times each (except the Big-U and Diamond Age) so that accounts for about 12.5 shelf-feet of reading in my life.

    The Hero With a Thousand Faces, Joseph Campbell, was the only self-help book worth a damn that I've read.

    I read the entire Harry Potter series, out loud, to my son, over the course of a year when he was about 5-6. I think when I am old and dying that will still be one of my favorite memories. Reading a book out loud is a profoundly different experience than reading it to yourself. It engages totally different parts of your brain.

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  280. 3 Good Ones by assertation · · Score: 1

    A Guide To Rational Living By Dr. Albert Ellis
    http://beforewisdom.com/blog/books/book-review-a-guide-to-rational-living/

    Feeling Good by Dr. David Burns

    The Now Habit by Dr. Neil Fiore

  281. Getting best books .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Almost all of the books I have ever read have been a good influence on me. May I remark, Mr. 36 year old, that looking to improve yourself by reading books is a *good* idea? May I recommend almost any of the Iris Murdoch novels? She is extremely sexy, can look at both a man's as well as the woman's perspective, and while totally non-technical, broadens your mind. Any of her novels would be good, but thinking of my slimmest one amongst them, I think, is "The Italian Girl".

  282. Books: impact. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Ender's game" by Orson Scott Card (science-fiction): the others are different and there's a distinction to be made between antagonism and complementarity.
    The lessons of physics by professor Feynman (mechanics, electromagnetism, quantum mechanics): there is more than one way to view things.
    "Ubik" by P. K. Dick (science-fiction): only what is real continues to exist when you cease to believe in it.
    "Meno" by Plato (philosophy): everyone can reach knowledge.

  283. some things that changed my brain around by Peganthyrus · · Score: 1

    The Illuminatus! Trilogy by Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shea. Especially the appendices. It's lurid trash but it's also a delivery system for some very interesting ideas about thinking.

    Understanding Comics, by Scott McCloud. Note: I spend a significant amount of my waking hours drawing comics. If you care in the least about comics, as a creator or a consumer, this book will give you a lot to chew on.

    d'Aulaires' Book of Greek Myths, by Ingri and Edgar d'Aulaire. I credit this and their book on the Norse myths with my being what I call a "polyagnostic"; I knew from a very early age that there are religions that have come and gone, that their adherents believed as intensely as the ones we have now. With these as a foundation it was very easy to see Christian myths as, well, myths.

    And some stuff I've simply enjoyed a lot:

    The Stress Of Her Regard, by Tim Powers. Vampires, the tendency of Romantic poets to die of consumption, and a secret history of the world. I've read a lot of his stuff but I keep on coming back to this one every few years.

    Against A Dark Background, by Iain M. Banks. As a SF writer he's most well-known for his "Culture" books; this one is outside that continuity. It's both comedic and tragic, as well as endlessly inventive.

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    egypt urnash minimal art.
  284. You Are Asking The Wrong Questions by assertation · · Score: 1

    I think you are asking the wrong questions. There are a lot of people who enjoy doing tech work ( computer repair, netowrking, programming, etc ) and who would consider management to be a step down..........doing something they do not want to do while being pulled away from what they enjoy.

    Are those people underachievers too?

    Only if that is what they WANTED.

    All these years where you haven't become a manager, is that you wanted? Did you try HARD to become manager? If not, maybe you didn't want it or want it more than other things. How can you have failed at something you haven't tried or never wanted?

    Even if you wanted to be a manager and tried hard, that only means you underachieved at one thing, it doesn't mean all of you and all of your life is a failure. Look at Hillary Clinton, all her life she wanted to be President. She didn't make it. She did become Secretary Of State. Is she an underacheiver.

    Before you go off and read every self help book that the Slash Dot community suggest mayber you want to talk to a professional..........spend the extra money and find a GOOD one that comes highly recommended. Work these thoughts out.

    Most of the human race doesn't get everything they want or achieve big things. They are happy and don't think of themselves as underachievers.

    Most of the human race is poor, doesn't have everything it needs, lives without freedome, etc.

    Take some time to appreciate the good things you already have in your life.

  285. BNW & We by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Brave New World (Huxley, 1932) & We (Zamiatin, 1921)

  286. The Book Of Mormon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have found that the Book of Mormon has been the most influential book in my life. As a companion to the Bible, which has been well discussed, this book has brought me closer to God. Also as was mentioned above with the Bible by reading the Book of Mormon I have become more familiar with other literary works and better able to understand them.

  287. The Illuminatus! Trilogy by imikem · · Score: 1

    Had it all: impenetrable plot, end-of-world drama, quintuple agents, and the ability to climax in the mouth of a skilled prostitute in a few minutes. Plus the game spawned by it consumed untold nights and following days when I was a younger man. A good friend of mine tells me it destroyed his life.

    --
    Perscriptio in manibus tabellariorum est.
  288. Re:Not the Bible. by WaywardGeek · · Score: 1

    I just finished both "The Fountainhead" and "Atlas Shrugged". I think the ideal romantic industrialist Rand describe fits one person well: Steve Jobs. Now, Steve by his own admission was an ass hole. I've never heard of a dime he contributed to anything. He had what he wanted to do to the world, and that's where he put 100% of his effort. That pure drive turned Ayn on, and the books were fabulously written. Do they make me any more valuable in my work? NO!

    Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney would have been villains in any Ayn Rand book. Leaving stupid (especially this election cycle on the GOP side) politics beside, Ayn Rand books have no value at all in my work.

    As for the Bible, I'll agree that you can't count on reading delivering higher pay. I read it in high school (just the old testament - the new one is too repetitive for me to get through). However, I read it last year and it blew me away. Again, no pay increase, but a profoundly better understanding of the world can be had through reading this book as an adult.

    --
    Celebrate failure, and then learn from it - Nolan Bushnell
  289. Re:Not the Bible. by __aasehi2499 · · Score: 1
    I'm guessing your limited vocabulary is referring to these words:

    I made it easy for you to use this thing called a dictionary...clicky clicky.

  290. Getting Things Done by juniq · · Score: 1

    Getting Things Done, by David Allen

    The best $10 you can spend on yourself as a knowledge worker.

    This book changed my life, both professionally and personally.

  291. Has nothing to do with validity or desirability: by Hartree · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It doesn't matter if it's a valid basis for morality. The question was if it had an impact and it's had a major one on you as seen in the very phrasing of what you said. The FSM is a riposte to it. "fuck god" is said as an example of a disagreement with it. It's embedded in many of the very idioms of the language you happen to use (obviously it would be different if you spoke Chinese rather than English).

    No matter whether it is a valid basis or not, it's been used to define much of culture in many countries and the ideas in it shaped history. Sometimes it did so in pretty bad ways, such as the Crusades. Sometimes it led to better things.

    You could say the same about the Koran for those in Islamic countries. Regardless of whether someone had read it or agreed with it, it had tremendous impact on the society around them.

  292. Engines of Creation: by Hartree · · Score: 1

    Engines of Creation by K. Eric Drexler.

    I was already highly interested in science, but Engines focused my attention on the idea of manipulating matter at nanometer scales. It led me to change my major to physics from aero/astro engineering.

  293. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, that's what I thought (after some 3 or 4 ideas).

    Mind you, I'm not exactly church-going (let's say once or twice a year), my wife is somewhat Buddhist and I have to attend cults occasionally, my adherence to the commandments can be improved a lot etc. But I've read the Bible during my younger years and I'm still trying to figure some parts. I find it to be very rich, not only in religious content, but also in philosophy, a trait I've seen in other teachings, like Laozi's and Aesop fables.

    I prefer the New Testament, which I find harder to understand than the Old, which is quite direct in its message. I'm sure Hindu sacred texts and the Quran would both bring illumination and maybe I read them one day...

    Some stories have had a particular impact on me: Kabuliwalla, by Rabindranath Tagore, was one such. It's absolutely devoid of any heavy thinking, but it surprisingly talks to my emotional side, which I find amazing -- I otherwise can only feel anything when hearing some rare excellent music (e.g. Amazing Grace or Beethoven's Ode to Joy).

    A final advice, since the asker seems to have a rather low self-esteem: learn another language and ponder about starting a new life in a new place.

  294. Hmm, books causing life pivots. by thermowax · · Score: 1

    1. Out of The Inner Circle, Landreth. Read this in 1986 or so when it originally came out. Holy shit, did that change my life. It put me on the vector that, among other things, has me reading Slashdot today.
    2. M*A*S*H- Hooker. Besides being ripping funny, introduced me to the concept that if you're really good at what you do, you can get away with a lot. A whole lot.
    3. 1980 Signetics Linear IC Databook. Never underestimate the learning capability of a curious kid on a remote farm with no internet access ('cause it didn't exist. Well, not as we know it.)
    4. War Games. Yeah, so it's a movie, but life-changing nonetheless. See items 1-3.

  295. Promotions by crepe-boy · · Score: 1

    Promoted "only" four times in 12 years?! Yikes! In my industry (biotech) that would be extremely rare. I am jealous.

  296. The War of Art by codgur · · Score: 1

    The War of Art. This book deals with why we hold back on our inner creativity. Why are you holding back on yours? Don't limit yourself by defining yourself by the number of promotions you have or haven't received. Read the book then get creative and get inspired and promote yourself!

  297. I owe the Bible a lot by tlambert · · Score: 1

    If only because it inspire Gutenberg to invent the printing press and a usable alphabetic movable type, which was then used to print almost everything else I've ever read.

    But for the original poster: a book won't magically make you a more productive, desirable person, or reprogram your brain to work better; you are looking in the wrong place for your inspiration.

    1. Re:I owe the Bible a lot by LF11 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I respectfully disagree. Reading books makes you more empathetic.

      Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/sep/07/reading-fiction-empathy-study

      Reading books also can expose you to many ideas, models, and world views that you might not otherwise encounter. Learning a new world view can radically change your personality and belief systems. Case in point; Young Christians learning about Atheism.

      cej102937

  298. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And every parent should read Proverbs. My children are happy, content, and well behaved because of it.

  299. Re:Not the Bible. by cammoblammo · · Score: 1

    This.

    In summary, "Don't be dick, and if you do, don't blame God for your dickishness."

    So applicable for so many people I know.

    --

    Cogito, ergo sig.

  300. Re:Voyage From Yesteryear by James P Hogan by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

    I'd second that recommendation, and his other books too:
    http://www.jamesphogan.com/books/info.php?titleID=29&cmd=summary

    Maybe we'll get to a better society eventually as more and more people realize the irony of using the technologies of abundance to fight over misperceptions of scarcity. Bucky Fuller said much the same thing. Ursula K. Le Guin says something similar in some ways in her books too (like "Always Coming Home"), about balance and community and appropriate use of technology.

    --
    A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
  301. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of my English teachers strongly recommended reading the Bible, not for the religious content, but because there are an enormous number of literary references to it.

    Not only that but it is an excellent book about the human condition and insight into the way people behave is valuable.

    AC due to moderation.

  302. Theodore Sturgeon's 1950s The Skills Of Xanadu by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

    a short story that inspired Ted Nelson and so the hypertext web: http://books.google.com/books?id=wpuJQrxHZXAC&pg=PA51&lpg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false

    --
    A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
  303. Tricks of the Game-Programming Gurus by Runesabre · · Score: 1
    --
    Runesabre
    Enspira Online
  304. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    which book of the bible.

    ezekiel

  305. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you rape cry-wolfs... i put down several times reading the rifter books because of critiques like that... but it actually is one bit related to character development that deserves none of that silliness. not a single bit of smuttiness that i was expecting after so much criticism.

  306. Re:Not the Bible. by nazsco · · Score: 1

    > not for the religious content, but because there are an enormous number of literary references to it.

    the devil's way are full of lies. or something like that. whatever.

  307. GEB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas Hofstadter.

  308. Principia Discordia by chad_r · · Score: 1
    Read it here. Sometimes parody is the purest truth. I'm also partial to the Bokononism of Kurt Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle, especially:

    Tiger got to hunt,
    Bird got to fly;
    Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?'
    Tiger got to sleep,
    Bird got to land,
    Man got to tell himself he understand.

    It's not only insightful, it's also got a good beat that you can dance to.

  309. Be Here Now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Be Here Now by Ram Dass
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be_Here_Now_(book)

  310. Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell by WilsonSD · · Score: 1

    It turns out that you can be great. You can be great at anything you want. You don't have to be born with talent. This totally inspired me to try new things. I only wish I'd read it as a teenager!

  311. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, my problem was with the people who would say it, without realizing how vapid such a statement was. It's like wishing for Peace on Earth. Not exactly contributing much to any discussion.

    If you're not aware of the Bible by now, you're hopeless.

  312. Switch: How To Change Things When Change Is Hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    by Chip and Dan Heath
    Full of excellent insights into how to undertake change processes.

  313. Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke by felixrising · · Score: 1

    At the age of 15, my mother brought me an old copy of Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke. It was the first novel I'd ever read cover to cover in one sitting.

    It was complete paradigm shift for me, it changed how I thought of myself as a member of the human race. I immediately changed my elective subjects for the final two years of high school, from shop style classes to physics, chemistry and math. It totally change the course of my life.

    Mum later told me that my grandmother had bought this novel for her and her siblings around the same age, and I definitely will do the same for my children.

  314. Re:Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Bra by felixrising · · Score: 1

    +1

  315. The 4 hour work week by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... not so much for the business plan of how to make money doing very little, but I happened to read it at a point in my life when I was really working a ton, and some of the central themes in the book are centered around "Why are you killing yourself working so you can save up a bunch of money that you might never even get to spend in retirement. Enjoy your life now" Really made me rethink my life and completely changed my attitude on traveling and vacations.

  316. Book that have had most influence on you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have to write down your pluses and minuses. Next, you need to learn new skills and thinking by taking evening classes at community college or
    some private tutor. You need three things - academic smartness, creative smartness and street smartness. The last two you have to develop by associating with
    successful friends and teachers and find a good mentor. Then, think about integrating as much knowledge as you gain to start a new project such as
    writing a text book on mathematics or programming or something that you are passionate about. If making money is your goal, find a niche market for a product or service people need such as, interesting places to visit with all historical details, places to stay and food for a reasonable amount for the whole family. You have to find your inner call and just reading some books that was inspiring to some one else may not be suitable to you. You need to have continuous curiosity about every thing - your company, its products, customers, how the top bosses invest their money, and all related areas which will force to learn more about real estate, legal assistant profession, nursing and so on. it is a never ending self improvement process and discovering what makes you happy most of the time and stop at the level and enjoy your life. I have done and I am extremely happy.
     

  317. Problems with getting the book. by beachdog · · Score: 1

    If the original poster has read this far, I am sure you have received at least one book recommendation phrased in a way that speaks to your personal condition.

    Your original post question asked about books. My comment is: The commonplace American university book store, the previous best source for any self-education program is paralysed and undergoing price inflation and culling of all books on the shelf for more than 2 years.

    The entire mechanism of knowledge on paper organized into journals, magazines, books, reference books and textbooks is caught between the dirt cheap publishing and indexing capabilities of the Internet (with a huge contribution from the big name in search engine) and the always unrealistically expensive terms of copyright permission. Caught means the printed material can't be republished on the Internet for reading at file transfer prices per megabyte and books over three years old are leaving commercial book stores due to taxes and rents.

    Suppose I told you that Science Magazine, 1974, page 1118 had a discussion of systems engineering and chaos theory you really should read. Thanks to the insane over pricing of everything under any copyright, you could read this article in 15 seconds for a cost of $.0019 ... oh wait... no after satisfying the publisher's idea of what it is worth, you will pay $30 for Internet access or you must burn $20 in gas and parking driving to a University library.

    The whole scheme of going and getting a printed paper book for learning is freezing. The large organizations are cannibalizing the business of the smaller book organizations. I call this "freezing". The order of freezing is: Book stores, university book stores, Internet book stores, public libraries, university libraries.

    When you do set out to acquire the books recommended, watch how well the printed paper information system works. What are the forces pushing the books you want out of reach? That is the American way: figure out what is going on with the system that is supposed to help you figure out what is going on.

  318. "Replay" by Ken Grimwood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The best book i have ever read in my entire life, but im just 25.

  319. Think and Grow Rich by Jakeula · · Score: 0

    Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. Really helped me figure out how to make a positive future for myself and those around me.

  320. Hands down: Voltaire's Bastards by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 1

    Voltaire's Bastards taught me how control of information both up and down the chain is where real power lay. This is why opening up government to complete scrutiny would place power back in the hands of the people. Open government plus democracy has such potential as opposed to our present system of half truths and rarely revealed whole truths swamped by lies and then we are supposed to go to the polling booth and make an informed decision.

  321. The passionate programmer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The passionate programmer by Chad Fowler. Recently read it, good advice on how to take your career to the next level.

  322. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it's an influential religous book, then read any of the translations of the Tao.

    Fix *your* life. stop worrying about everyone else's.

  323. 100 Books by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

    http://artofmanliness.com/2008/05/14/100-must-read-books-the-essential-mans-library/#more-183
    Add to this Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead. And to be non-partisan, you might as well read Rules for Radicals so you understand both sides.

  324. By the decade by Niobe · · Score: 1

    1st Decade: The 500 Hats of Bartholemew Cubbins by Dr Suess
    2nd Decade: Dune by Frank Herbert
    3rd Decade: A New Kind of Science by Stephen Wolfram
    4th Decade: To be determined..

  325. Re:Not the Bible. by electrosoccertux · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That's my favorite besides Jonah, which has the additional virtue of being very short.

    Not that either is going to be of interest to someone looking to enhance their career.

    Ecclesiastes showed me why enhancing my career didn't matter and to look to other things for fulfillment.

  326. Explorations of human nature for me by imarsman · · Score: 0

    A Canticle for Liebowitz by Walter M. Miller, Jr. for its scope and books by Ursula LeGuin like Rocannon's World and Planet of Exile for their scope I suppose as well. I enjoy stories that explore interpretations of human nature. I've also read lots of classic stuff by Voltaire, Scarron, and other French authors while taking literature classes and they gave me a sense of how people have viewed humanity over the years as well. I am currently slogging through the Iliad but it is not really my cup of tea but seems to have stood the test of time for others. Fun question!

  327. Re:Atlas Shrugged by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

    Full of? Really? And if you understand the characters you'll realize that the heroine desires to give herself over to the power of self-made men. Sadly, too many men these days have been brainwashed into thinking that women want a sensitive, gentle girly man. So not true. Women don't want a wuss. They are drawn to power and control.

  328. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by kelwell · · Score: 1

    The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. That book affected me in a very profound way. It won't help you get a better job in the same way that a philosophy degree doesn't prepare you to fix air conditioners. But I have found through my purely anecdotal and in no way scientific studies that the first step to improving your life is to understand and appreciate fully who you have been and how you got wherever you now find yourself. Once you understand who got you here, you can become the person who gets you somewhere else. And that is my Cliff's Notes version of just about every self-help book ever written. Especially Think and Grow Rich. Now that's a real stinker of a book. Horrible pacing, forgettable characters, and it just goes nowhere. No, fuck that shit. So what have I taken away from The Guide? Lots of useless funny stuff. How does that help me succeed? I'll try to break down a couple of the main teachings of this holy book: 0) Everything can and will change fundamentally from time to time without warning. 1) The world ending is not necessarily the end of the world. 2) Computers are just as breathtakingly stupid as their creators. 3) You can have as many second chances as you like. 4) Impulsiveness is more frequently rewarded than punished. 5) Total commitment to a course of action often results in minor injuries. 6) Radical change is necessary for growth and shouldn't be avoided. 7) Panic is rarely a productive strategy. 8) Assistance can come from very unlikely and improbable sources. 9) If you are very very good at something, you can make a living at it, even if it is silly. I would have to say that this book has overall improved my general outlook and perspective on life and enabled me to be the hoopy frood you all see before you today. A)

  329. The Education of T. C. Mits by DoctorBonzo · · Score: 1

    ...by Lillian Lieber. T. C. Mits standing for The Celebrated Man in the Street.

    It's a quaint read today, but when my junior high math teacher recommended it to me, I got a first look at the academic hierarchy of the day. I still find it relevant, but I'm probably an outlier.

    The premise was that that mathematics rules over the other 'hard' sciences - physics and chemistry - and that pure versions of each, without apparent practical application, are more noble than the applied varieties. Lieber was pushing a pre- Rodney King flavor of "Can't we all just get along?", but what I internalized was the superiority of pursuits untainted by general utility.

    Somehow, I still manage to make a living...

  330. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If one chooses the bible, I expect them to tell me which book of the bible.

    That'd actually be more useful, so I can support that.

    Though I'd add the qualifier of which version of the book.

  331. Surely You Must Be Joking... by sleepypsycho · · Score: 1

    Surely you must be jonking that no one has yet mention "Surely You Must Be Joking Mr Feynman". An amazing set anecdotes. There is a lot in there about winging it and taking risks. Also some lessons in paying attention to what is going on around you.

    For Coding: Head First Design Patterns. I didn't really get patterns until I read this. This may be because of my general coding level at the time, but understanding patterns was an import step for me.

    For User Interface Design: About Face by Cooper and Spolsky on Software. About Face was dated even when I read it many years ago. It also way too much on details. Spolsky has to be tempered somewhat. However both books get straight to the heart of user interface design and they don't read like textbooks like most user experience books I see these days.

    For Life: As much different fiction as I could get. Hemingway may be one the top for me. I learned a lot about integrity and perseverance. In non ficition I got a lot of out of GK Chesterton and the importance of attitude and perspective, even though I was never, and never will be, a Catholic

  332. Books and the successful life by yoctology · · Score: 1

    "Best of" book lists are always popular, but they are answering the wrong question. I have read thousands of books over my life. And written a few. I started with science fiction such as Wasp, Foundation, Dune, Avram Davidson, City, Slan, the science fiction books club collections (Galaxy Readers), you name it. That was pretty much it until I reached college. I branched a little ways out to Herman Hesse and Kurt Vonnegut, but really, stayed right in my comfort zone of SF. The breakout for me was when I read Gravity's Rainbow. I kept mumbling to myself: "can a writer do that?" I struggled with the characters and the subplots. When I finished, my mind had been stretched. And it stayed stretched. I resolved to read outside of SF no matter how hard or how boring. I compiled best of lists of all kinds of literature. I collected university course lists in literature from places like Cal Tech, Berkeley, Yale, Harvard, MIT. BBC, Times Literary Supplement lists. I worked through them all. It didn't take too many years. I filled notebooks with thoughts that arose as I read. Then I was ready to start writing. I still enjoy my SF even though I understand its limitations; now I can enjoy comparing that experience to the experience of reading Maya Angelou or Mary Gaitskill. I can enjoy the quality writing in the New Yorker. I enjoy the reviews I used to find opaque in the Times Literary Supplement. And I can participate in looking at life around me and figuring out how to express it, even though never expressed before. And I know when an expression is likely fresh and because I have never read it before. So my advice is--rather than looking for the magic set of books that is like a literary vitamin supplement, instead constantly choose books outside of your comfort zone. Yes, don't forget to reread your favorites lest you begin to fear difficulty, but try to understand why other educated people consider books great that you do not understand now. My current reading list is Wolf Hall, Marquez, The Hydrogen Sonata, Ian Fleming, Gone Girl, Churchill's History, Redwall, Murakami, Eco, incest porn, Nabokov, Joyce... in other words, the gamut of human literature in English. As Tom Wolfe said "Let's not mince words: literary lists are basically an obscenity. Literature is the realm of the ineffable and the unquantifiable; lists are the realm of menus and laundry and rotisserie baseball. There's something unseemly and promiscuous about all those letters and numbers jumbled together. Take it from me, a critic who has committed this particular sin many times over." So, the best book to read next s the one just an epsilon out of your current reach. One that takes a little struggle to release all its pleasure.

  333. Re:Atlas Shrugged by LF11 · · Score: 1

    I feel that you have not actually read her books. I did, as a very young teenager, and again in my early 20s. The books have indeed had a profound impact on my life. I credit Ayn Rand, along with Robert Heinlein and Richard Maybury, with forming some of my fundamental ideas of how the world works. I am quite the opposite of what you describe. Libertarianism is a recipe for success, whether you are a cutthroat corporate climber or a long-haired farmer hippie. That is my personal experience, and what I have seen in other people who subscribe to libertarian or anarchic philosophies. To the contrary, the effects you describe perfectly fit my experience of many self-describing "liberal" adults. cej102937

  334. Re:Not the Bible. by LF11 · · Score: 1

    I understand very well where you are coming from, but you are missing the point.

    The *actual* lesson in the Bible is that rights, and restrictions, come from a higher power. Not humans. Humans are NOT free to create restrictions, or arbitrarily define human rights. We all have rights that come from God, that cannot be taken away by other humans.

    That is the historical lesson.

    I am very well aware that the Bible does not actually say that anywhere. Nevertheless, that is the idea that has persistently shaped enormous parts of Western civilization.

    I would be curious as to how atheists answer the question of where rights come from. I don't see much thought on the topic, but perhaps I have the wrong social circles.

    cej102937

  335. Love books... by katorga · · Score: 1

    Samson Agonsistes - John Milton
    Coriolanus - William Shakespeare
    1984, Animal Farm - George Orwell
    Philosophy of History - Hegel
    18th Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte - Marx
    For Whom the Bell Tolls - Hemingway
    Dead Souls - Nikolai Gogol
    The Master and Margarita - Mikhail Bulgakov
    My First Goose - Isaac Babel
    Lives - Plutarch
    Origins of Rome - Polybius
    The Alternative in Eastern Europe - Rudolf Bahro
    Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72 - Hunter Thompson
    Requiem for a Dream - Hubert Selby
    The Book of Tea - Kakuzo Ukahura
    Never Let Me Go - Kazuo Ishiguro
    The Economic Consequences of the Peace - JM Keyenes
    Eminent Victorians - Lytton Strachey
    On the Road - Jack Kerouac

    Many too many to list

  336. Re:Atlas Shrugged by doodleboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Most of the people who criticize Atlas Shrugged haven't read it, even if they say they have. It's a great book. I second the recommendation!

    I read Atlas Shrugged and to my knowledge all of Ayn Rand's other published works. In fact I thought she was the shiznit when I was 16. It all seemed so simple: these people over here are good, and those other people over there are evil. However, I have come to understand real life is a good deal more complex than that, and the binary distinctions favoured by ideologues like Rand in no way correspond with reality.

    I have come to believe that any philosophy based on hate is fundamentally untenable.

  337. Lord of the Rings by celtic_hackr · · Score: 1

    Tolkien's Lord of the Rings was my first trilogy. - Stirred my imagination.
    John Carter, Warlord of Mars. - Got me designing spacecraft and rocket engines and building model rockets.
    Stan Lee Comics. - Got me involveed in chemistry, (and using that knowledge to make my model rockets into fireworks.
    Sherlock Holmes. - Critical thinking skills.
    The collection of encyclopias my parents bought. ...
    and many, many more!

  338. This one will help you on your life by Seb+C. · · Score: 1

    "Getting things done".

    It will make you more efficient and will help you enjoy your life more.

    You'll be able to focus on important things and yet, never miss any detail.
    It'll also drop a big amount of the stress i'm sure you're experiencing from time to time.
    Applies to both professional and private environment.

    Really, it's cheap, so, you're not likely to loose a lot by giving it a chance.

  339. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Shark · · Score: 1

    I read it expecting to feel like seemingly everybody but you in this thread does... I found myself wishing I had read it much earlier by the end. It seriously feels like there's an all out war against this book and I seriously don't see how its harshest critics, seemingly fairly intelligent/educated people, apparently fail to get it. Maybe they were forced to read it and didn't pay attention, or they didn't read it at all and just parrot what they heard of it. That last bit would be a tad ironic when you consider a book that so harshly denounces group-think.

    Maybe you need a five-digit UID to fully appreciate it.

    --
    Mind the frickin' laser...
  340. How to Read a book. by Boronx · · Score: 1

    How to Read a Book by Mortimer Adler. I read this when I was 33. I was surprised to learn that I didn't know how to read a book.

  341. Re:Atlas Shrugged by fafaforza · · Score: 1

    Wow, so /. has devolved to the "no, YOU are" argument.

  342. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Shark · · Score: 1

    I have come to believe that any philosophy based on hate is fundamentally untenable.

    And I only started genuinely loving mankind after reading it, go figure...

    --
    Mind the frickin' laser...
  343. Snow Crash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    led me to a second job as a pizza deliverator.

  344. Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury forces me to never take the printed word for granted, and fight government that does not fear it's people.

  345. GEB! by photon317 · · Score: 1

    Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid. By far this is the most profound book I've had the pleasure to read in my life. It doesn't contain answers, but it sure provokes a lot of thought...

    --
    11*43+456^2
  346. Write your own book by OutputLogic · · Score: 1

    To have a significant impact on your life, write your own book. That's what I did.

  347. SCIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs.
    Best book I ever read about software. One of the best books I ever read, period. It's to CS what the Feynman Lectures are to physics. Don't expect to read it and then create a master piece of software using Scheme, but rather expect to think differently about programming afterwards.

  348. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry, I found Proverbs excruciating. Just a list of minutiae, not much better than Leviticus. I agree with GGP on Ecclesiastes -- amazing work. Psalms has some beautiful language but there are so many and eventually they get repetitive. Song of Solomon. Also Job -- for the language not the philosophy. But as a non-believer, I have to put Ecclesiastes at the top -- it is the only book in that collection that speaks to me.

  349. The Power of Myth by Joseph Campbell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can see an excerpt at http://m.video.pbs.org/video/2201676017/

  350. "The Goal"- what's the Goal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    READ "THE GOAL" by Eliyu? Goldratt - the bottom line is throughput

  351. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's my (agnostic) answer to your query. Rights are claims, it's a simple as that. I have a right to free speech, freedom from religion, and so on, by asserting those rights. Without the assertion of the claims, they are just ideas.

    We as a society accept some of these claims and reject others. A psychopath could claim a right to kill, but the claim is rejected by society. As society is ultimately the mediator of these claims, that means the claim is invalid.

    As a further measure, societies can empower governments to uphold the rights it deems to be valid. Good government will protect the rights that reflect the society's values. Bad government will either fail to do this, or will itself infringe on those rights, or will uphold claims that don't reflect society's values.

    Is that not sufficient?

  352. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yep, Homer and company had nothing to do with getting western literature off to a start.

  353. Most influential book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Art of Electronics, 2nd edition, by Paul Horowitz and Winfield Hill.

    I was into programming and electronics when I was a kid. Later I made that into embedded systems career.

  354. The Righteous Mind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This recent one by Jonathan Haidt is subtitled "why good people disagree on Politics and Religion." The author was
    a liberal Jew who had his mind expanded & prejudices reframed by a trip to India.

    The book is full of other fascinating anecdotes & research, for example the apparent effect of shared bodily motion
    (everything from Rave dancing to soldiers marching) can produce altered/enhanced states of consciousness.

    Highly recommended and valuable, especially if you have to get along with people of opposing political or religious persuasions.

  355. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I must defend Ayn Rand's novels as page-turner mind candy, anyway. But if you can actually read her epistemology book and find yourself agreeing with it ("sense data is all there is and must be correct" essentially) then you throw out quantum physics for starts ...

  356. Books to open your mind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Posting anonymously after moderating here...

    Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance (Robert Pirsig)
    Godel, Escher, Bach (Douglas Hofstadter)
    Infinity and the Mind (Rudy Rucker)
    A Brief History of Time (Stephen Hawking)
    From Eternity to Here (Sean Carroll)
    Tao Te Ching
    The Way of Zen and others by Alan Watts

    For the fiction side, may I suggest:

    Pale Fire (Vladimir Nabokov)
    A Confederacy of Dunces (John Kennedy Toole)

  357. Vineland, by Thomas Pynchon by jkg2 · · Score: 1

    First read it twenty years ago, liked it so much I put it on my car where it remains to this day.

    I'll be the first to admit it's not for everyone, much like Pynchon in general I suppose, or even the supposed "best" of his catalog, but it certainly was for the book for me. There is also a sequel of sorts called Inherent Vice, not bad.

  358. "Blindsight" by Peter Watts by Yogiz · · Score: 1

    This is the last book that managed to change my world view. The ideas that the author probes as to the nature of human conciousness and the resulting human condition are extremely provocative and which is even better, completely plausable. I don't remember the last time when I suddenly started laughing in the middle of reading a book, not because it is funny (which Peter Watts' books certainly are!) but because the idea that was proposed goes so hard against my intuition that I have no better way of parsing that then to laugh. If you haven't read it, you have no good excuse not to now: It's available free from Watts' homepage at http://www.rifters.com/real/Blindsight.htm Also what probably boosted up my like for that book is that the author doesn't do hand waving but bases all it's information on actual cold hard science. I am quite knowledgable about current research in cognitive and neurosciences, in biology and other basic sciences and unlike a lot of Sci-Fi books, "Blindsight" does not rub me the wrong way.

  359. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Procyon101 · · Score: 1

    I was a Libertarian long before I read Atlas Shrugged. I read it this year and I was very disappointed actually. I found the book to have a very shallow plot and was very long winded and preachy. It should have been a short story. Marketing that book as the Libertarian Opus makes me realize why people think Libertarians are pseudo intellectual idiots.

  360. Destination: void by lolococo · · Score: 1

    Destination: void, by Frank Herbert.
    This is what alighted my passion for artificial intelligence. It is still inspiring me in my life's work.

  361. The Way Things Work and Sophie's World by lindi · · Score: 1

    The Way Things Work, David Macaulay.
    Sophie's World, Jostein Gaarder.

  362. Snappy Answers to Stupid Questions by Nyder · · Score: 1

    http://www.leedberg.com/mad/satsq/satsq.html

    http://www.madmagazine.com/tags/snappy-answers-to-stupid-questions

    Didn't know how much that would prepare me for life, but it did.

    Another book, Only The Earth And Sky Last Forever by Nathaniel Benchley. Loved that book. Taught me not to trust the white man.

    Also, The Bible. It taught me that religion is man made, and that people are really really fucking stupid when it involves belief/faith.

    --
    Be seeing you...
  363. The Stallman books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  364. Books from the 60s and 70s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Problems for Computer Solution, published by RAND Corporation.
    Mathematics, A human endeavor.
    Power and Speed, Computer series by Time Life.

    Pascal: User manual and report.
    Basic Computer Games.

  365. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are times when a comment should be modded to 6. This would be one of them. Thanks for a great laugh!

  366. I read a LOT... by CoolCalmChris · · Score: 1

    I'm not going to supply links, but the following gives a pretty good idea of what shaped me-

    The Strawberry Statement by James Kunen

    Be Here Now by Ram Dass

    The Secret Life of Plants by Tompkins and Bird

    A Confederacy of Dunces by John Kennedy Toole

    A People's History of The United States by Howard Zinn

    How to Talk Dirty and Influence People by Lenny Bruce

    Steal This Book by Abbie Hoffman

    Soul on Ice by Eldridge Cleaver

    Seize the Time by Bobby Seale

    Plus various books by the following-

    Anais Nin

    Tom Robbins

    Gurdijeff

    Carlos Castaneda

    I average around four books a month, 50-50 between ebooks.and print. Potboilers, textbooks, classics- doesn't matter. I get most of my ideas from reading...since I like to write and sound smart, it works out.

  367. It's not a book, it's a ....... by pgmsrs · · Score: 1

    The Beyond Freedom Evolution is a 12 month web-based success education curriculum. Beyond Freedom Evolution is a tool that will give you new and insightful ways to look at life and how to effectively deal with the obstacles you will inevitably face. It is a collection of thought provoking and enlightening information, universal principles and personal perspectives for the situations that arise when one chooses to take full control of their life and take on achieving big goals. These concepts were forged in the heat of overcoming insurmountable adversity by people who refused to give up, and at the end of the day, had success. I am very happy to provide more information if you are interested. Regards Sandra Free

  368. Re:Not the Bible. by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

    So I'm going to make a bit of a leap here, and suggest that you probably think a lot of things you don't understand are "silly".

    Philosophers have been debating the existence or non-existence of God for millenia, and no-one has come up with conclusive proof one way or the other. They have devised some extremely good arguments on the way, both for and against, and these arguments are the underpinnings of all modern philosophy and by extension all science.

    You can think about the debate back and forth between the theist, atheist and agnostic philosophers as a bit like a long, long game of chess, with each player devising ever more subtle moves that may have a profound effect on how the players that come after them will move - but you probably consider chess "silly", too.

  369. Microsoft dos and gw-basic manual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft dos and gw-basic manuals, when the "o" in Microsoft still had the blibbet.

  370. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the actual information world euclid elements seems far more influential than bible. The greek philosophers plays to a central role. But in the domain of bullshit bible is still leading.

  371. Coding by spongman · · Score: 1

    Zx81 manual
    BBC micro AUG
    K&R
    Petzold

  372. Not mentioned elsewhere by wazoox · · Score: 1

    The Odyssey. Indisputably one of the best books ever. Quite geeky and excellent, Umberto Eco's "Foucault's pendulum" is one of these books I've reread regularly for 25 years.

  373. For 40+ year olds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, that was fun. Further confirmation to store my post in an editor before trusting SlashDot to correctly process my submission.

      My post is directed for those at 40 and older. At this point you should have had offspring, which I think (both biologically and ethically) is significant.

    1. John Gardner has written a number of books on how to evaluate fiction. In order to judge a piece of art, you have to have a framework in which to evaluate the piece.

    2. As others have mentioned, Zen and the Art of Motorcyle Maintenance is a good read on determining values. I think it is better to read this book than relying on the Tao of Pooh, as someone else recommends. Also, it is worthwhile to remember that Pirsig's son killed himself.

    3. Also, as others have mentioned, GEB is a must-read for programmers.

    At 40, we're at the halfway point; we're thinking about mortality, and our legacy. If we're not parents, we've spent considerable time thinking about why we're not parents.

    Though not a book, I've been extremely impressed by film> .

    A couple of books I think are relevant for 40+ year old readers:

    1. http://www.amazon.com/Soldier-Great-War-Mark-Helprin/dp/0156031132/
    2. http://www.amazon.com/Sunlight-Dialogues-John-Gardner/dp/0811216705

    I think both Atlas Shrugged & the Bible are worth reading, at the least to have the background to discuss them intelligently.

    I was about to recomment the Harvard reading list, when I went out to confirm what it actually was. The irony is that the Google searching
    http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~sica/reading.htm

    does not in any way match what it used to be:
    http://www.amazon.com/The-Whole-Five-Feet-ebook/dp/B00280MWSS/

    One thought is to read the Pulitzer/Hugo/Nebula/etc. books. IMO, though, the recent winners do not have the same quality as those written, say, 30 years ago.

  374. Re:Not the Bible. by hazah · · Score: 1

    Most people resist the notion that it's possible to hold neither, but I can honestly say that is exactly what my position is. My conviction, and my contention, is that it is indeed irrelevant. Think about it this way: absolutely nothing would change in this thread whether I would to say that one exists, or not. No value added to the topic at hand. Now pick any other topic, and the same outcome will be inevitable.

  375. Re:Not the Bible. by hazah · · Score: 1

    Actually, I love chess. It's a great game. Too bad I do not get to play often.

    Philosophers have been debating the existence or non-existence of God for millenia, and no-one has come up with conclusive proof one way or the other.

    And I think that they've been waisting a great deal of mental effort in asking a question that cannot be answered. Illogical questions breed inconsistent philosophies, and that's pretty much where we find ourselves now.

  376. Re:Not the Bible. by hazah · · Score: 1

    For the love of... when did I say that? I said the Greeks had no influence? I can't seem to find that statement. You're reading beteen someone else's lines, not mine.

  377. Re:Not the Bible. by hazah · · Score: 1

    And no influence from the Greeks ever transposed into the Biblical world view? It's not exactly an exclusive club, and I never said that it was.

  378. The Odyssey by vikingpower · · Score: 1

    Yes, the original one, by Homer, about 2700 years old. The basis of western literature ( together with the Iliad, which is way more complex ). Why ? Because of the theme: man alone ( "rugged hero" ) fights, for 10 years, against himself, his past and the consequences of his actions to get back home, where nothing is as it was when he left that place. The Odyssey is THE basis for any general culture, self-reflection and further reading for any cultivated Westerner.

    --
    Religous speak to God. Insane are spoken to by God. When all shut up, one can finally hear Shostakovich in peace
  379. The giver by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Also animal farm, brave new world, dune, and many others I can't think of at the moment

  380. The Nature of Personal Reality: A Seth Book. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read this book when I was 17 or so. Even now I do t consider myself big on spirituality, Ive never been a fan of crystal wavers and things of a religious nature. But there were a lot of great concepts that I took from this book and a few of the others I read. Primarily the drive for personal growth and a constant need to learn.

  381. Re:Machiavelli, and others. by MRe_nl · · Score: 1

    It's not called "The Prince",but "The Ruler" afaik.
    It's a homophone (in Italian) on "The Rules & "The Ruler". ("Il Principe").
    Every time I see people calling it "the Prince" I think they haven't actually read it.
    That's looking at you, whoever wrote the Wikipedia entry on the book.

    In the list of "right kind of jerk" books I would add
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Five_Rings

    Anything by the following authors
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Harrison
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Vance
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Adams
    for a more tongue in cheek yet (imo) insightful look at humanity.

    --
    "Kill 'em all and let Root sort 'em out"
  382. On Beyond Zebra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've always had a copy of Dr Seuss' _On Beyond Zebra_ in my cube. It helped me learn to think outside the box.

  383. Really earth shattering by Evtim · · Score: 1

    If we talk about books that really changed my life, many of those were not fiction:

    "Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn and "Guns, germs and steel" by Jared Diamond - anthropology is an eye opener!

    "Cosmos" and "Contact" by Carl Sagan - Cosmos made me a scientist and Contact is one of the best reads on the subject "Science and Religion" (this one is fiction, I know)

    All the books of Oliver Sacks - wow, just wow!

    Hofstadter - "The mind's I" and "GEB"

    "48 laws of power" and "33 laws of war" - the real-life examples in those books are amazing, instructive and fascinating.

    "Bulgarian Chronicles" - this one is very specific - for Bulgarians only (not translated) - it is the first sincere attempt to give my countrymen their real history, as unbiased as possible. Absolutely ground shaking! I hear that Oliver Stone is trying to do this as a series of documentary movies about USA's modern history (last 100 years). I bet massive controversy will ensue...

    And fiction:

    Sci-fi/fantasy - the absolutely stellar D.Adams and T.Pratchett, The Dune saga, (most of) Asimov, the Strugatski brothers and the godlike Stanislaw Lem (a philosopher who writes sci-fi - unbeatable combo. Hofstadter uses his writings to illustrate many of his scientific concepts about consciousness)

    Victor Pelevin (available in English), check this two out - Buddha's Little Finger (aka Clay Machine-Gun) / (Chapayev and Void) (1996) and
    Babylon (aka Generation , Homo Zapiens) / Generation "" (1999)

    "Master and Margarita" by Bulgakov - the best gospel there is. One of the story lines in the book is the trial and crucifixion of Jesus; people like it so much that they call it the gospel of Bulgakov (I heartily agree)

    "The gospel of Jesus Christ" by J. Saramago

  384. Re:Not the Bible. by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

    You've kind of missed my point there, though. Why would you waste mental effort on playing chess? You might win, you might lose, but either way it doesn't get you any further forwards.

    Maybe you do it because you enjoy it. Maybe that's why philosophers devote so much mental energy to pondering the imponderable.

  385. Re:Not the Bible. by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 1
    Most self-reported atheists are really one of two things.

    The first is agnostic - they'll admit they can't be SURE in the same spirit as Descartes said he couldn't be SURE about the external world. The second is atheist, as in "non-believer", WRT to gawd and especially Christianty.. ie. I do not believe ANY of that shit, which is technically not atheism since atheism implies having absolutely CERTAIN knowledge about the non-existence of gawd.

    But their atheism is not comparable to a Christian's Christianity in terms of firmness and the irrational of the belief. You can't compare them. So.. you're under arrest.

  386. Re:Not the Bible. by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 1

    Oh definitely the bible.. they give them away for free and it saved me big bucks on toilet paper over the years.

  387. I second the touching stories by Pollux · · Score: 1

    I know I'm too late for mod points. Who cares.

    All the recommendations of sci-fi or dystopian novels and whatnot by most of the slashdot crowd...they're good books, but I wouldn't say they have much impact on life. It's the touching stories that have impact.

    The Last Lecture is good. But go with great: read The Little Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry (English translation). It'll only take you about an hour to read, and it will impact your life. There's good reason for it being the 2nd best-selling book throughout the world (excluding any books of faith).

  388. Re:Not the Bible. by icebraining · · Score: 1

    I don't dispute that it's irrelevant. I'm saying that you either hold a preposition to be true, or you don't; there's no third state. That's true for a belief in gods and for a belief that is raining in Zimbabwe.

  389. Re:Atlas Shrugged by carnivore302 · · Score: 1

    I'm reading this book now, and have been doing so for the past half year. Really, I have no idea how many pages the paper book has, but it takes me about three quarters of an hour to advance one percent on my kindle. There's a speech given by one of the main characters that goes on for three hours reading time! Meanwhile, I've become increasingly depressed. It's not a fun book, but oh so recognizable. After this I'll need an entire season of Dharma and Greg plus ten pounds of chocolate to recover. And I will, because I refuse to live among men as a totally rational being.

    --
    Please login to access my lawn
  390. Re:Atlas Shrugged by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

    That's exactly it. There's another fairly famous book that you may have heard of, as it has been of some influence here and there around the world despite having fewer literary qualities than L. Ron Hubbard on a bad day. I'm talking about the bible, of course.

    Such a book will resonate with you if it describes persons or events that fit your own world view. It will resonate even stronger if it describes a philosophy that you already sort of felt deep down, but never put into words so clearly. On the other hand, if such a book goes firmly against your own philosophical grain, then it's all too tempting to write it off as "literary tripe", which is indeed what left-wing Europeans tend to do, with surprising vehemence.

    Atlas Shrugged isn't great literature, but it did resonate with me. I've always been an individualist instead of a collectivist, but this was the first book I read that put the distinction in clear perspective. At the danger of generalising, I think that Americans tend to be more individualist than others; a tendency that fits with the nation's history. By the way, I'm not an American nor a libertarian; I think Rand's ideas are a bit like Communism in that they fit a certain ideal, but they are unfit as a rulebook to run an imperfect world (or even a perfect one). But her ideas have had a great impact on the way I view the world.

    --
    If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
  391. The Man Without Qualities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    by Robert Musil

    It's an amazingly well written story centered around a very intelligent youngish (30s) man with some success but no ambition. It uses satire to describe the scenes and perspectives present in a society going through the dramatic shifts of the economic, political and technological situation. It's long but the chapters are about 5-10 pages each so it works well in small doses.

    Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace
    also hilarious satire for people who need a bit of a rethink. It may be a bit long winded for some.

  392. Re:Not the Bible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're assuming he wasn't aware of the circular argument. As someone else said, read the Screwtape Letters. Also the book on praying that every made sense to me.

  393. Really? by supercrisp · · Score: 1

    I love literature, so it's almost heart-breaking to read that people's life-changing books are The Hobbit, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, or, saddest of all, something by Ayn Rand. If The Hobbit is your life-changing book, take a look at your life. Is your primary sexual relationship between you and your computer monitor? Seriously, it's a good book, but it's high-fantasy and intentionally denies all aspects of modernity and contemporary human society. Maybe some Dickens? Like David Copperfield? If you're reading Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance or that author one-step lower on the thought-chain, Richard Bach, maybe you could read some actual Buddhism or actual Presocratic thought? Thich Nhat Hanh has several books laying out the foundations of Buddhist thought, and wouldn't be bad. And any collection of the Presocratics would probably blow your mind. Parmenides, especially, is a hoot. Ayn Rand. Dear lord. Go ask the Wizard for a heart. And maybe a brain. Or you could, if you want to be open-minded and see if there's anything worthwhile in the idea of mutual obligation, you could read some John Rawls. Or, if you're not ready to go that far, you could try Schopenhauer, at least he has the grace to be honest about his occasional misanthropy and doesn't try to base an "ethical" system on it.

  394. How to Stop Worrying and Start Living by ebbe11 · · Score: 1

    By Dale Carnegie. I read it when I was 20 (which is over 35 years ago) and if should mention a single book that has helped me through my life, this is the one.

    --

    My opinion? See above.
  395. The Cuckoos Egg by fredr1k · · Score: 1

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cuckoo's_Egg_(book) by Clifford Stoll It's about when the Astronomer Clifford Stoll was asked to investigate in a missing 75cent billing in the computer system and he is threwn into a Spy-hunter trail, ending up in an arrest of a West German hacker spying for KGB. Upon reading it I was struck by the inginuity of ways he had to trace the hacker. Also proves the thesis "its the small misstakes that takes down the big thiefs"

    --
    "Never EVER mess with a jumper you don't know about, even if it's labeled 'sex and free beer'." - Dave Haynie
  396. Der Steppenwolf by twms2h · · Score: 1

    "Der Steppenwolf" from Hermann Hesse was required literature at school and despite that I read it and it possibly saved my life.
    At that time I was thinking seriously about suicide and when I read the following quote from the main character, something along the lines "you can always commit suicide later if it gets too hard, so just keep going for now"
    (I don't remember the exact words and it is in German anyway, so it wouldn't be of any use here)
    That absolutely made sense to me. As long as you are alive, things can improve, once you are dead, you are dead and that's it.

    There have been other important books later but I think the above is quite fundamental so no other became as significant as that one book.

    1. Re:Der Steppenwolf by twms2h · · Score: 1

      I just realised that this does not really answer the original question (I should have read it, not just the title)....

  397. smart books by Bobtree · · Score: 1

    Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution, by Steven Levy.

    The Invisible Gorilla: And Other Ways Our Intuitions Deceive Us, by Christopher Chabris and Daniel Simons.

    Blindsight, by Peter Watts.

  398. The God Delusion by mich.linux.guy · · Score: 1

    If everyone read this book, the world would be a more peaceful place. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_God_Delusion

  399. Thoughts without a Thinker by thx4mny · · Score: 1

    You don't seem like an underachiever to me.
    You seem like you always demand more from yourself, and can't be satisfied with whatever you've achieved.

    If you want to entertain that hypothesis, try "Thoughts without a Thinker", a buddhist-psychology book by Mark Epstein.

    I'm not a Buddhist, and I'm off Buddhist literature currently, but this book gave me a hint about trying to "be" instead of trying to "do". In order to improve yourself, you first need to understand that you cannot improve. This kind of gibberish philosophy starts to make sense after this book.

  400. Mix of classics and new by WillAdams · · Score: 1

    Books from childhood:

    _Divers Down! Adventure Beneath Hawai'ian Seas_ --- Hal Gordon: love of the ocean, technology, work ethic and respect for other cultures

    _Swiss Family Robinson_ --- Johann Wyss: work ethic, love of outdoors,attitude toward survival

    _Mad Scientist Club books_ --- Bertrand R. Brinley: love of science

    _Dark is Rising pentalogy_ --- Susan Cooper: the wide world and its place in history

    _Lyonesse:Suldrun's Garden, The Green Pearl, Madouc_ --- Jack Vance: high fantasy, gender relations

    _The 26 Letters_ --- Oscar Ogg:love of the written word, appreciation of its history

    _ A Short History of the Printed Word_ --- Warren Chappell: ove of the typography, appreciation of its history

    _TeX and Metafont_ --- Don Knuth: how computers would affect typography

    _ Space Cadet_ --- Robert Heinlein: understanding of education and service

    _Last of the Breed_ --- Louis L'Amour: love of archery

    _Looking for a Ship_ --- John McPhee: how a changing world affects a career

    _Doorways in the Sand_ --- Roger Zelazny: nature of education

    _Bridge of Birds_ --- Barry Hughart: love and laughter

    For all that there's a lot of fiction on the list. I wonder if I shouldn't have read more biographies starting w/ Robert E. Lee whose dictum was that fiction weakened the mind.

      Current project is to sort all biographies on Project Gutenberg chronologically so as to read them thus and develop a better sense of history.

    --
    Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
  401. Best Books for me; by Vitriol+Angst · · Score: 1

    "The Tao of Poo": Taoism explained by Winnie the Pooh character. If you are "hard on yourself" and don't feel like you fit in, learning about the "uncarved block" is going to truly help.

    "The Way Things Work": At ten years old, I tore apart this book. Got my mind filled with the "how" of things.

    "The Dancing Woo-Lee Masters": It was modern physics explained without math. I've since totally discarded the "observer influence" nonsense of Quantum Mechanics as basically, blasting these tiny particles with light is much the same as detecting cars with cannon balls with the same "observer influence". But it was great for a time to instill wonder and get a gist of a big part of modern physics that is a mystery to 99% of the public.

    "Richard Feynman biography." This man had a life worth living. He also knew how to think and break down problems. Also, he appreciated Latin culture -- which all us European-Americans need to do at some point in our lives.

    "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy." It helped me understand that things don't always make sense -- and it will always be that way, and I shouldn't get bent out of shape about it.

    "Circle Find a Whole." Written by a former porn video producer. It's a children's book aimed at adults who might be co-dependent hoping that someone else is going to solve their problems. It's also about finding the right person rather than trying to fit into someone else's agenda. Read AFTER the 'Tao of Poo'.

    Science Fiction Books. Lots of them. They open your mind like psychoactive drugs to alternate perspectives. I'm sure if the organizations who prefer unquestioning, brain-dead drones had thought about it, they would have done more to restrict publishing than drugs -- well, I suppose they did, but that was called the "dark ages" for a reason.

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  402. Re:Not the Bible. by kelemvor4 · · Score: 1

    If one chooses the bible, I expect them to tell me which book of the bible.

    Ecclesiastes. Pretty much everybody, believer or not, should read Ecclesiastes.

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes+1&version=NIV

  403. Re:Not the Bible. by Vitriol+Angst · · Score: 1

    Right, you NEED to read the bible to have an antidote.

    Read it when NOBODY else is telling you what it means.

    You will quickly find that Religious Nuts are clearly ignorant of MOST of what the Bible actually says.

    For instance, Numbers 5:16 - 5:22, a Priest administers a "morning after drug" to induce an miscarriage, and adds in a lot of guilt-producing nonsense about "unfaithfulness will cause magic punishment" just to make sure that the abortion isn't going to be fun.

    It's annoying to have religious-based abortion debates when Nunneries used to be places where wealthy women waited out their pregnancy -- and since the "first breath" was when the soul entered the body. Their abortion happened AFTER conception, and the walls of some of the european nunneries have been found to hold thousands of baby skeletons. Not saying that was right -- it's just an example of the expediency of Religion and gives perspective that "old fashioned values" need only be 50 years old for someone to think that a philosophy was the unmitigated word of God.

    God used to be OK with killing disobedient children. Sleeping with the daughters (see; Lott). Massacring every man, woman, child and farm animal because you were killing the non-chosen people.

    >> Once you get out of the wackiness and barbarism that is the Holy Bible, you get to the New Testament, with much nicer sensibilities.

    You should definitely read the bible, but you need to read something irreverent in-between doses as there could be side effects.

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  404. Re:Not the Bible. by hazah · · Score: 1

    I will say again, I do not hold either notion to be true, nor do I hold them to be false. It's a schrodinger's cat. Both states are valid and invalid for all phylosophical arguments, and matter not to the discussion. While I can believe that it rains in Zimbabwe, I cannot use that word when it comes to gods. I do not personally experience such a notion of belief, I only understand it as it is described in a dictionary. I cannot comprehend it.

  405. Re:Atlas Shrugged by LF11 · · Score: 1

    LOL It must be the 5-digit UID, signifying grumpy old fart. Or something. :)

    I feel that many of the people bashing the book have not actually read it. There are a few people who have legitimately read the book and written scathing reviews of it. Every one of these people has been a self-proclaimed militant socialist or communist. Considering that Ayn Rand grew up under communism in Russia and pretty much devoted every letter of her writing to opposing that economic model, then a socialist writing a review of her books has a pretty obvious agenda.

    Now I read a lot of wannabe socialists copying the thoughts and emotions of those initial reviewers, without actually having read the book to form their own opinions. Reading the entirely of Atlas Shrugged is a significant investment of time and thought; it is not a short or simple read.

    That's just how I feel about it. Totally subjective, of course.

    cej102937

  406. Re:Not the Bible. by hazah · · Score: 1

    Chess has very clearly defined rules, and playing it improves your ability to deal with planning and strategy in the general scense (you're flexing the same nurons, I'd imagine.). Philosophers, real philosophers, value logical arguments, not wild speculations. And if you go east, you will find quickly that a whole lot of them would argue that time is spent better dealing with reality, rather than speculating whether some magic, imperceivable, man sits on a cloud. Life is far too short for questions that do not lend themselves to any answers by their very nature.

  407. Bible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reading the bible is important. Not because it is correct, but because it will help you understand 2 000 000 000 people better.

  408. Re:Atlas Shrugged by LF11 · · Score: 1

    All good points. Had I been older and well-grounded in libertarian thought beforehand, I might have been similarly disappointed, although I still appreciate very much the character archetypes that she describes. For example, when Joe Biden speaks, I hear Wesley Mooch. Without the archetypes, I'd be confused and irritable over bad political acting. With the archetypes, I feel like I have the whole playbook, and I have the whole story before it happens.

    To be fair, though, there are not many libertarian writers, and of those, many of them write very obtuse and obscure prose. Libertarian economics is rather more like organic chemistry or molecular biology in complexity, than arithmetic or Twilight.

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  409. Collective Intelligence and Becoming Virtual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A number of people have recommended Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, and I agree with that recommendation. Ditto Flatland. However given your career and the desire to get promoted, I would also recommend two books by the French philosopher Pierre Lévy:

    Lévy, P. (1997). Collective Intelligence. Man's emerging world in cyberspace. (R. Bononno, Trans.). Cambridge, MA: Perseus Books.
    Lévy, P. (1998). Becoming Virtual: Reality in the Digital Age (R. Bononno, Trans.). New York: Plenum Trade.

    These are not easy reads (Lévy's been called "The Poet of the Internet", but his views are interesting and I've been impressed how relevant they are.

  410. Meditations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    by Marcus Aurelius.

    Also:

    Walden by Henry David Thoreau
    Essays by Michel de Montaigne

  411. Influential Book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When the Wind Blows by James Patterson

  412. Re:Atlas Shrugged by CrudPuppy · · Score: 1

    Atlas Shrugged is certainly the most profound book I have ever read.

    As far as Technology books:

    I learned to program from the Llama book (Learning Perl) and the Camel book (Programming Perl) is certainly my greatest weapon today as a sysadmin.
    Mastering Regular Expressions gave me knowledge that's crucial and most people in tech don't have!

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  413. Re:Not the Bible. by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

    Bzzt. Thank you for playing. You used the phrase "magic man on a cloud", which shows that you haven't really thought about it but like to pull out some vapid quote from the insufferably smug Richard Dawkins.

  414. Re:Atlas Shrugged by pscottdv · · Score: 1

    That joke just never gets old no matter how many times you post it here.

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  415. Jonathan Livingston Seagull by fiestar · · Score: 1

    Jonathan Livingston Seagull by Richard Bach Pretty small book, can quickly be read, I'll suggest it to anyone looking for a great book to read.

    1. Re:Jonathan Livingston Seagull by fiestar · · Score: 1

      I meant by Richard Bach

    2. Re:Jonathan Livingston Seagull by Taed · · Score: 1

      JLS is just OK, IMHO. But _Illusions_ is one of my favorites. And his _One_ is one of the worst books that I've ever finished. So the same author is on my Best and Worst lists.

  416. Biography of George Washington by tkr · · Score: 1

    Flexner's multi-volume life of the great man changed my life. It will make you thoughtful about integrity, ambition, resolution, courage, and patience.

  417. Re:Atlas Shrugged by bonehead · · Score: 1

    LOL It must be the 5-digit UID, signifying grumpy old fart.

    ummm.....

    Apparently my wife IS right about me....

  418. Books for your job... by Taed · · Score: 1

    I'm assuming that you're a decent programmer or whatever your forte is, so I'll limit it to that type of book where there are two clear winners. _Debugging the Development Process_ by Maguire and _Programming Pearls_ by Bentley. The first will make you a better engineer and the second a better programmer.

  419. tech books and social commentary by Walter+White · · Score: 1

    "The Unix Programming Environment" by Kernighan and Pike. It got me off to a great start with making the most of the Unix (command line) environment and how integrating programs could multiply their benefits.

    "Unix Network Programming" by W. Richard Stevens. Aside from the fact that he did such a beautiful job of describing network programming, he exposed so many other aspects of programming for Unix along the way.

    Aside from tech related reading, "1984" by George Orwell. It was not so important when I first read it about 40 years go, but it informs my understanding of what is going on now in the US as well as scaring me about what is still to come.

  420. Re:Not the Bible. by hazah · · Score: 1

    Is this really all you can muster with your attention span? If I had said "divine being exists" would that change my point? Lets try:

    And if you go east, you will find quickly that a whole lot of them would argue that time is spent better dealing with reality, rather than speculating whether some magic, imperceivable, divine being exists.

    Holy shit, you're right... The whole thing reads like a regurgitation of Mr. Dawkins.

    Language is a wonderful thing, and that you are unable to read the intended message through a colourful, and human description, is just sad.

  421. Re:Not the Bible. by canadian_right · · Score: 1

    The bible is most definitely NOT the source of modern western morality. The source of modern western morality is the philosophy of the Enlightenment and the raising of reason over revelation as the basis for serious thought about morality and the law.

    Except for a few fundamentalists, all Christians use the same moral rules as an atheist when cherry picking what is "good" from the bible. We hear a lot about "doing unto others as you would have done to yourself", and not much about stoning to death neighbours who fail to observe the Sabbath.

    I find that most people who claim that the bible is source of their moral values haven't actually read it.

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  422. Clarification. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > ... since the asker seems to have a rather low self-esteem: learn another language and ponder about starting a new life in a new place.

    A clarification is in order, as some here work for the weapons industry and want to see enemies of the US everywhere (by professional or sickness-related reasons).

    I'm not offending or mocking the asker, I just have the impression -- since he hasn't got the promotions he was expecting in the last 12 years -- that he's not being recognized. Either he can move to another city/state or, as I suggest, sell his skills in another country.

    Just that, in case some moron thinks I'd kick a person in his hour of need.

    And boy, allowing people to carry guns, has created a lot of fools wanting to "defend" themselves and have some fun in the process...

  423. Re:First by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got first

    Who wrote this? I checked Amazon and Google Books and found nothing, so I'm guessing it's obscure. Then again, I only checked the top-10 results for each. Do you have an ISBN?

    000-0-00-000000-1

  424. The Tao of Physics by Fritjof Capra by themapplz · · Score: 1

    "The Tao of Physics, Capra's first book, challenges much of conventional wisdom by demonstrating striking parallels between ancient mystical traditions and the discoveries of 20th century physics. Originally published by a small publisher with no budget for promotion, the book became an underground bestseller by word of mouth before it was picked up by a major American publishing house. Since then, The Tao of Physics has been published in 43 editions in 23 languages."

  425. Re:Atlas Shrugged by BanteringCTO · · Score: 1

    I don't say this to be a smart ass, so please don't take it that way, but perhaps it was that simple to you because you read it when you were 16? Mind you, my youngest child is older than that and I spent half of my life overseas in the Army, so I am neither young nor naive. Give it another shot. You may be surprised.

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  426. Re:Atlas Shrugged by BanteringCTO · · Score: 1

    Good for you, Shark!

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  427. Re:Atlas Shrugged by BanteringCTO · · Score: 1

    You're probably correct about most defenders. I could, perhaps should, have just said that most people who comment on Atlas Shrugged haven't read it. Couldn't disagree with you more on your assessment of the book, though.

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  428. Vehicles: Experiments in Synthetic Psychology by sprior · · Score: 1

    A number of years ago I read "Vehicles, Experiments in Synthetic Psychology" (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0262521121/geekstercom-20) and found it to be a really great and thought provoking book. He calls them vehicles, but think little robots. The book starts off really simple and shows how with some very simple circuits you could produce something which a black box observer would think had emotions of one sort or another. The book then progresses and you end up with some amazing concepts. It's not a very long book (just 168 pages), but it took me a while to read because I'd read a page and then just think about it for a while. The book is considered an artificial intelligence book, but it was written by biologist Valentino Braitenberg and in the second half of the book he basically says so in case you thought I was just making all of this stuff up, here let me show you real world biology implementations of what I have shown so far. Just a great book.

  429. Do I have to have read it? by utkonos · · Score: 1

    The question you are asking me is what books have impacted my life. There are many books that I have not read that have had a very large impact on my life. Many of these books convince people to act like nuts because they believe everything that's printed in these books.

  430. Read what you like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no point reading something that bores you just because it is a bestseller or a classic. You won't get much out of it if it doesn't interest you. You'll be reading the words but not taking in what you read. Instead go to your local library and have browse to see what books you might like to read. Usually by the age of 36 most people have figured out what types of books if any they like to read more than others. Also Amazon is a good place to browse for books and write down any you might like to read. Always check to see if the local library carries it first before buying it online or in the book store.

  431. Vanity Fair by W.M. Thackeray by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the world's greatest prick get's the world's most desirable girl. Her more honourable would-be lover finishes last, with little or no encouragement ever from the selfish girl butpersists and gets a few meager crumbs of satisfaction after the prick is killed at the Battle of Waterloo.

    A perfect prick gets the lovely girl, while his more admirable rival for her loses out. The prick dies at Waterloo, and the rival gets only a few meager crumbs of satisfaction from the lovely girl, blind as she is to enduring love and his superior character.

    But the novel is much more wide-reaching and multifarious than that suggests.

    There are many characters and the flaws of every one are ruthlessly though subtly exposed.

    Thackeray revealed his own intents in writing it as follows:

    "to indicate, in cheerful terms, that we are for the most part an abominably foolish and selfish people "desperately wicked" and all eager after vanities....I want to leave everybody dissatisfied and unhappy at the end of the story–we ought all to be with our own and all other stories. Good God don't I see (in that maybe cracked and warped looking glass in which I am always looking) my own weaknesses wickednesses lusts follies shortcomings?.... We must lift up our voices about these and howl to a congregation of fools: so much as least has been my endeavour. "

  432. Re:Machiavelli, and others. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Prince has always been the traditional English translation of the title; it's not Wikipedia's fault.

  433. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was juts am anmetue befor that

  434. "On The Road" Jack Kerouac by alfredo · · Score: 1

    On the Road, gave me permission to step away from society. "Fahrenheit 451" Ray Bradbury. This book made me an avid reader. "Stranger in a Strange Land" By Robert Heinlein made me more willing to disobey authority. "100 Years of Solitude" by Gabriel Garcia Marquez showed that you can love a book with all your heart. "Politics of Experience" RD Laing changed the way understand others. "The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein pushed me even more to the left politically. Orhan Pamuk, Salman Rushdie, Margaret Atwood are fucking awesome.

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  435. Re:Not the Bible. by superdude72 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Feh. The Bible is merely one collection of texts out of Greco-Roman classical antiquity, and not the most influential among them. It is certainly not the work on which Plato, Aristotle, or Homer based their works. And are you discounting the entirety of the pre-Christian Roman Empire's contribution? Because a lot of people would consider that the basis of Western civilization and morality.

  436. A very important man for you by wealthy+trader · · Score: 1

    Read Noa Sent John

  437. Re:Atlas Shrugged by doodleboy · · Score: 1

    I don't say this to be a smart ass, so please don't take it that way, but perhaps it was that simple to you because you read it when you were 16? Mind you, my youngest child is older than that and I spent half of my life overseas in the Army, so I am neither young nor naive. Give it another shot. You may be surprised.

    I did read it again about 10 years ago, 20 years after the first go-round and after picking up a BA in philosophy and literature. It was a remarkably different experience from being a 16 year-old fanboy. The book is not very well constructed and Galt's speech, nearly a book in itself, was nearly impossible to get through.

    If I was going to recommend any Rand book it would be The Fountainhead, because it gets the basic message across without all the interminable editorializing.

  438. One book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe you don't need a book, maybe you need consuelling, or this is burn-out.

    But if you want a book, "What Should I Do With My Life" is a great book asking the same question as you do, and giving examples of actual people's answers.

    I was in a position quite similar to you. Then I quit the IT field.

  439. Re:Atlas Shrugged by BanteringCTO · · Score: 1

    Your answer is why I still occasionally read comments on slash. Thanks for being thoughtful when you could have been flippant. Maybe there's hope left for reasonable disagreement on this site.

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  440. work/life books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    7 Habits of Highly Effective People - Stephen Covey
    Getting Things Done - David Allen
    The Goal - Eli Goldratt

  441. Re:Not the Bible. by icebraining · · Score: 1

    You don't have to hold them to be false. Just not hold any belief either way. If you do not hold a belief in god(s), you're an atheist. You don't have to believe that gods don't exist (that's just strong/gnostic atheism).

  442. Stick and Rudder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Flying, there's nothing like it.

    Sciences of the Artificial. It's what we do.

    Women, Fire, and Dangerous Things. Your thinking about classes and objects will never be the same.

    It would help to be knowledgeable about queueing theory and mereology, but it's tough to recommend books on these subjects.

  443. Changed my life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reading The Bible did changed my life too.

    It made me realize the kind of evil behind the love thy neighbor mentality. And exactly how full of shit Christianity and the related religions are.

    Perhaps you need to re-read Genesis; to realize the level of infanticide that was practiced by this kind and loving god.

    Then Leviticus of more example of love.

    Then the Job and think not about Job, but the workers and children who were all killed around Job to realize exactly how disposable human life really was. Well all the other humans except Job.

    And then there's what the Israelites did to the Canaanites.

    Its really a horrific book with exceedingly nasty implications.

    If you think its a wonderful book keep reading the old testament, and actually think about the implications. And stop listening to the bullshit your preacher is spouting that has no basis in the bible.

  444. Why We Get Fat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Two years ago, after hearing a glowing review of it from Paul Thurrott on the Windows Weekly podcast, I bought a copy of 'Why We Get Fat' by Gary Taubes. I read it and immediately started applying the information to my eating and, within 4 months, lost 40lbs. 5 months after that I was down to where I need to be, a total of 70lbs. I've maintained it pretty effortlessly ever since.

    That book not only changed my life, but probably extended it by 10+ years.

  445. Re:Not the Bible. by zugmeister · · Score: 1

    Some people don't recognize a joke even when it smacks them in the face like a wet fish... smack smack!

  446. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't they both involve orcs?

  447. A selection that mostly others haven't mentioned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In no order and incomplete: Higher order Perl by Dominus Pears Cyclopedia Spatial Tesselations: Concepts and Applications of Voronoi Diagrams Forth: A text and Reference Programming the Z80 by Zaks The original non-ANSI K&R Using Type Right by Philip Brady Ursinus' Commentary on the Heidelberg Catechism Turretin's Institutes of Elenctic Theology Thomas Manton Commentary on Jude The Bible: by The Creator Harmony and Melody by Elie Seigmeister Fundamentals of Data Structures - Howowitz and Sahni A year in Provence by Peter Mayle Dibs: In search of Self by Virginia Axline

  448. Re:Not the Bible. by __aasehi2499 · · Score: 1

    I have a long history of being soaked in fish juice.

  449. The Book of Mormon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...you asked for an honest answer :)

    Also Freakonomics, "Total Money Makeover" by Dave Ramsey, and the Bible of course.

  450. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 1

    I'm not above responding to bad logic with even worse logic to prove a point to everyone else except the person I'm replying to.

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  451. Be grateful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just be happy with your life and what you have, this is a dumb post. I wish I had a decent job like you, hell I just wish I had a job.

  452. THHGTTG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    42

  453. Change != qualitative improvement by tlambert · · Score: 1

    You are assigning value to a particular worldview. I was speaking to the qualitative improvement in job prospects, which you do not speak to, unless you are suggesting active discrimination on the basis of (non)religion, or that the original posters perceptions of their job prospects is a result of their personality?

    1. Re:Change != qualitative improvement by LF11 · · Score: 1

      I have experienced dramatic improvement in job prospects, largely due to libertarian ideas, and yes, due to active discrimination, but not to due political or religious philosophy.

      Libertarianism tells me that my value to other peoples comes from what I can give them. If I want to get paid, then I must provide something useful enough that someone else is willing to pay me for it. And I need to sell myself (in a hiring interview), such that my talents are seen as useful. This is what Hank Rearden wanted to see in his workers.

      (Popular) socialism tells me that everybody deserves a job. **There is never any discussion about whether the worker is doing something valuable.** This is taken to an extreme in the character of Philip Rearden, Hank's brother.

      Employers want to hire people that will produce valuable things for them. When they see my resume and interview me, they want to hire me right away. This is because I have a good work ethic *IN A GOOD INDUSTRY*, and a good sales pitch for myself, all of which I obtained and created with libertarian (non)theology in mind.

      This is not the case for job-seekers whose primary goal is to sit in comfy a job with a whole rack of benefits "because they deserve a job." "Deserving a job" is an excuse to skip the arduous process of building a good work ethic, and the sometimes aggravating process of going into an industry that might not be your first choice. From late childhood all the way through younger adulthood, people are not preparing themselves for work. They have no work ethic, they do not choose valuable industries, and they shun self-sales. Without libertarian (non-)philosophy, they do not know to mold themselves into someone valuable enough to get paid for doing good work. Since employers do not like to lose money, these people are discriminated against. Every employer I have worked for discriminates against people that don't have good work ethics.

      I understand perfectly well that there are not enough jobs to go around right now. So what? You always need a better work ethic and sales pitch to stand out. Just because you now need to be better than 85 percent should not be a problem. In my experience, nearly all job-seekers right now have no observable work ethic, and no ability to present whatever skills they actually have. If you actually want a job, and seek to actually do something valuable TO OTHERS, finding a job is not hard. Proof: me.

      The thing with libertarianism is that it is fundamentally about doing things for other people. Your entire world view is about value for others. You may be doing it for selfish reasons. You are still creating value for other people. This applies even for the leading characters in Ayn Rand's books. Nobody was welcome in Galt's Gulch without having something to provide. It didn't need to be money. They would, however, need to be prepared to have gainful employment. In other words, they needed to have some skill valuable to other people in Galt's Gulch.

      In my observation, other people with similar philosophies tend to get jobs very quickly, and tend to be very well paid for their work. It is certainly discrimination; discrimation against poor work ethics, and discrimination against undeserved entitlement.

      cej102937

  454. Improving soft skills by DioTech · · Score: 1

    As you say "I have led a couple projects, but I am not in any sort of leadership/management position. I realize I need to do something to enhance my career," i would suggest to improve your communication and leadership skills and to do some sort of assessment of yourself. For the the communication and leadership part you could join a Toastmasters Club. Will have some very well made manuals to start and a friendly and supportive environment. For the assessment, search for the book Zorbuda.

  455. Re:Atlas Shrugged by LF11 · · Score: 1

    WELL PLAYED, OLD WIZARD! :)

  456. Mmmm. OK, well here's my $.02 worth... by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

    On a more serious note...

    On a (perhaps) less serious (but probably more insightful) note, I would recommend The Tao of Pooh by Benjamin Hoff

  457. Re:Machiavelli, and others. by rubycodez · · Score: 1

    Wrong! "Principe" is prince. Get your lazy ass to an italian-american dictionary.

    Yes, I've read it.

    No, my post was not serious, I was just making fun of Steve Jobs.

  458. Re:Machiavelli, and others. by rubycodez · · Score: 1

    That's because "Principe" IS Italian for prince and the person you replied to is ignorant. It's the italians' fault!

  459. Re:Not the Bible. by okmijnuhb · · Score: 1

    Leviticus.
    It reinforced my atheism, and affirmed my belief that the Bible is essentially to be discarded as a source of truth, facts, justice, morality, word of God etc, with it's extensive detailing of proper animal sacrifice methods, and recommendations of stoning individuals to death.

  460. Bhagavad Gita by Jmc23 · · Score: 1
    The bible was interesting, but more like a child's picture book.

    Science and science fiction didn't have much of an impact as they pretty much follow a linear progression. Grokking Bhagavad Gita is probably akin to a normal programmer grokking lisp.

    That said, Stranger in a Strange Land, awesome book along the same lines.

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  461. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Jmc23 · · Score: 1
    Then you leave the US and suddenly it all seems so simple again :)

    Just kiddding.... maybe.

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  462. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Jmc23 · · Score: 1
    umm, you probably aren't the intended audience.

    The intended audience would probably say that your last sentence identifies you truthfully.

    p.s. It's an okay book where most of what's in there get's misused by republicans to bolster their ideas, sort of the corruption that the church/bible has undergone in the US. btw, i think i read it in one sitting, but that's just me, i've often read trilogies and up in on sitting..

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  463. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Jmc23 · · Score: 1
    Why are you so suprised? Have you ever seen any debates about church and the bible around here? I think the US is famous for ignoring what is actually said and fighting over imaginary beliefs that one side believes over the other.

    I can't for the life of me understand why the red devil with horns and pitchfork and some old man with a long beard supposedly representing god are so entrenched in US culture. Oh right, it started thousands of years ago when some people decided to use partying and a book with some truth in it to manipulate people into doing what they wanted... let's just hope the Rand stuff doesn't get misused and abused for millenia as well.

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  464. Re:Not the Bible. by Jmc23 · · Score: 1

    If you think Steve Jobs fits with Atlas Shrugged then you clearly aren't familiar with one of them. He of course fits very nicely with the republican view of Atlas shrugged.

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  465. Re:Atlas Shrugged by carnivore302 · · Score: 1

    Just out of curiosity: how did you do that, reading it in one session? If I extrapolate my last session (just finished the book today, btw), it has taken me between 50 and 60 hours. Did you take some kind of speed reading course?

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  466. The high and low by silanea · · Score: 1

    Herman Kahn's On Thermonuclear War has taught me more about our social fabric than six years of study in the Humanities.

    Samuel Shem's The House of God filled in the gaps Kahn left. Yes, it is pulp fiction in its most base sense. But it is, in the same base sense, true.

    Neither book made me throw my plans over board and steer into a wholly different direction, but between the two of them I found a new perspective on my profession and confirmation for choices I had made.

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  467. Significant Books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Black Cloud, Fifth Plant and A for Andromeda all by Fred Hoyle - they are real science fiction - Black Cloud even has maths to work out in it. I first read them in the erly-mid seventies, ans I've reread them from time to time since. They are long in the tooth now but I would still recommend them now

  468. Re:Except for Ayn Rand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well said, Ayn Rand's books are the worst books ever written. People who like them relate to the brutalist message in them and have no feel for plot, character or good writing

  469. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ayn Rand, the worst writer in English in the latter 20th Century.

  470. Re:Not the Bible. by jmkelly · · Score: 1

    First, when you say "western hemisphere" I think you mean "European and Euro-American culture," more often called "western culture."
    Second, if that were true, Shakespeare's plays would include "Abraham and Isaac," "David, King of Israel," and "Jacob and Rachel," not "Julius Caesar," "Henry V," and "Romeo and Juliet." Shakespeare--like most other artists--drew heavily from classic Greek and Roman literature, not from the Bible.
    I'm not saying the Bible isn't there--Joyce's "Finnegans Wake" draws heavily on such Old Testament tropes as Adam, Eve, Noah, and Jacob & Esau--but if you tried to make sense of Western culture by tracing every reference back to the Bible, you'd come up with a lot of dead ends.

  471. The Power of Habit, by Charles Duhigg by jmkelly · · Score: 1

    In addition to many already named, this will give you some nuts-and-bolts guidance on improving your habits, which will in turn improve your character, without which a leader is worse than nothing.
    If you want to get a supervisory job, though, I would recommend, in addition to reading books, taking the lead on some projects outside the office. Even if you just lead a half-dozen friends picking up trash at the park, it's experience and it'll teach you something. On a resume, what you've read doesn't even show up. What you've led, does.

  472. Braudel by tadas · · Score: 1

    The Mediterranean in the Age of Philip II, by Fernand Braudel.

    Braudel's book is a truly stunning/awe-inspiring/breathtaking summary of the nature and history of the Mediterranean and the lands surrounding it. Two volumes, and I think he gets around to Philip II somewhere in the second volume.

    Anything Braudel wrote will be worthwhile and entertaining reading, but make sure that the translator is Sian Reynolds - she did a superb job, and I had the illuminating experience of reading some essays by Braudel that she translated alongside the same essays translated by someone else -- it was night and day.

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  473. significant impact books on life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jiddu Krishnamurti (J K Krishnamurti) - Commentries on Life, On Relationships
    Osho - The man who loved seagulls (lot of his books)
    Eckhart Tolle - The power of now

    The depth with which these books go on real life topics will help you learn a lot more about u'r own self, your own mind and your own life.

  474. These had an impact on me by egnx · · Score: 1

    There are lots but I think these made tangible changes to the way I think Animal Farm - My Dad was a socialist, its was the first time I questioned his political dogma The Amiga ROM Kernel manuals Code Complete - 1st ed. Steve McConnell The Art of Electronics - Horowitz & Hill The BSA Bantam Haynes Manual - 32 years on I'm still spannering bikes The Camel book RSGB Radio Communications Handbook (an ancient pre-transistors copy) The Cuckoos Egg

  475. The Bible... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...along with the eye-opening work of the Holy Spirit. If anything, "significant impact" is an understatement for finding out the truth about the true purpose of existence, the nature of the universe and the destiny of every man and woman in it.

    Looking at the other answers, it's sad to see how few Christian geeks seem to read and comment on Slashdot... or perhaps they've all been modded down.

  476. Re:Atlas Shrugged by TeaConnoisseur · · Score: 1

    Anyone claiming that Objectivism is based on hate is either a politically motivated liar or extremely stupid. Since I just can't believe that someone (no matter how stupid he or she is) who has read anything from Ayn Rand would interpret her writings as hateful, I cannot but draw the conclusion that you haven't read the book. Not once, not twice. Go troll somewhere else.

  477. Objectivisim != Libertarianism; age restrict Rand? by tlambert · · Score: 1

    Objectivism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivism_(Ayn_Rand)
    Libertarianism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

    Libertarianism doesn't believe in laissez-faire capitalism. In general, Libertarians are strict constitutional constructionists (definition here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strict_constructionism if you don't know what that means either).

    Really, Objectivist views, particularly when expressed as if they were Libertarian views, do a disservice the philosohical distintion, and, since generally Objectivist viewpoints are abhorred by anyone who buys the idea of Rousseau's (definition here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Social_Contract in case you need it), which includes the majority of the population -- including most Libertarians, who will support the idea of public assistance, if only, as one pundit put it, "to keep less well off people from having an incentive to steal our stuff".

    Objectivists are generally those people who don't understand the difference between "Character" and "Charactertures", and don't realize that Rand's protagonists and antagonists aren't representative of real people: real people are much more complex and multifaceted.

    I really am beginning to think that people need to have passed a political philosophy class before they are permitted to read her books, so they at least realize that they are getting a philosophy along with the story.

    Maybe people should also have to read The GNU Manifesto http://www.gnu.org/gnu/manifesto.html in order to realize the GPL is an instrumentality of that manifesto, rather than something which exists separate from it, before they are permitted to contribute code to a GPL'ed project (disclosure: I've personally contributed plenty of code to GPL'ed projects, but I did it with an understanding of the philosophical basis and emergent properties of that basis).

  478. Read the Bible by SoothingMist · · Score: 1

    The Holy Bible is a great source of advice for character, professional, and career development. Start with the Wisdom series of books within the Bible.

  479. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    look closely at how they're marketing 'AS' - this one is part 2 (of the 'anticipated' trilogy): part 1 died quietly last year and i'll bet a lot of the moviegoers aren't smart-enough to realize they'll be stepping partway-into the storyline.

    There's too much in the book for even THREE movies, but that'll never stop 'em from trying to capitalize on it.

  480. Re:Has nothing to do with validity or desirability by SolitaryMan · · Score: 1

    Well, I guess my reply was a little confusing. I was challenging the point that the Bible is the basis for morality, not its influence. On that I agree. And that Jesus Christ is probably the most influential person in the world, whether he is fictional or not.

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  481. Re:Not the Bible. by SolitaryMan · · Score: 1

    We all have rights that come from God, that cannot be taken away by other humans.

    I'm very curious to know what those are, because I can't think of any. Well, except for freedom of thought, but this is more like an ability than right.

    Everything else I can think of, is guaranteed by the State (or some other form of social contract) and you can find a place (or point in history) where people don't have this right.

    What rights did slaves have?

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  482. Re:Atlas Shrugged by mcmonkey · · Score: 1

    If I was going to recommend any Rand book it would be The Fountainhead, because it gets the basic message across without all the interminable editorializing.

    I was seconds away from making the same comment. As a fan of Rand's fiction, the only time I'd ever recommend Atlas Shrugged would be if someone told me they'd read a bit of her work and was looking for something else she had written.

    When you do read Atlas unless you're a compulsive completest, skip Galt's speech entirely. If you've understood what you've read up to that point (not necessarily agreed with, but understood) the speech is entirely redundant. If you haven't understood the book up to that point, the speech isn't going to help.

  483. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love Atlas Shrugged... And that post still cracked my shit up. Thanks!

  484. Re:Objectivisim != Libertarianism; age restrict Ra by LF11 · · Score: 1

    I belive you have missed the forest for the trees. I am sorry you got hung up on terminology.

    I'm quite aware of the fact that Ayn Rand is pushing political theories as well as philosophical models. She is also pushing certain moral and ethical models. I was referring to the political theory of Libertarianism that is expressed in her work. That is the part of her story which held in my memory, and which formed much of my world view.

    A caricature is not a person. The map is not the territory. A caricature is a story, a model, an archetype. Perhaps that model is useful for describing something in the real world, perhaps it is not. Ayn Rand's expression of a socialist economic model has been useful to me, so I subscribe to it, even though certain aspects of her work (sexual relations and atheism) I have felt free to discard.

    None of this changes the fact that I have used Libertarian ideas of self-improvement, hard work, and self-value to open my access to both professional work and academic opportunity. Not objectivism, as I don't subscribe to that. Nor atheism, as I don't subscribe to that. Nor free love, as I don't subscribe to that, either. Just Libertarianism, along with a healthy dose of Laissez-Faire economics.

    I would like to hear your reasoning behind this statement, "Libertarianism doesn't believe in laissez-faire capitalism." That runs completely contrary to my experience and knowledge. I understand that some left-leaning Libertarians do not subscribe to capitalism, but I have yet to find a Libertarian that does not believe in Laissez-Faire market systems as a foundational premise.

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  485. Re:Not the Bible. by LF11 · · Score: 1

    Slaves are born with all the rights as every other human.

    If rights come from a social contract, then what happens when the social contract changes? If you believe that your rights come from God, you will fight for those rights because they are yours. If you believe that your rights come from a social contract, then you will submit to the contract when it changes.

    The whole point in saying that they "come from God" is to maintain the fact that no human trick of words can deprive people of their rights.

    'My God is more important than your law.' This idea gives us the authority to assert those rights in the face of human opposition.

    Think about it a different way. The biggest problem with Democracy is a phenomenon called "the tyranny of the majority." In the West, this is usually fairly benign, although the Native American and African American communities would disagree. In the Middle East, this is usually violent. Regardless, Democracy is a social contract. If you are part of the minority, and the majority decides you don't need your right to liberty, then what are you going to do about it? Fight? Or submit? If your moral authority comes from the social contract, then you must submit because that authority is rescinding those rights. If your moral authority comes from a higher power, ANY higher power (it does not have to be "God" or "Allah"), then you must fight to keep your rights, because that authority did not rescind those rights, and therefore they are YOURS forever.

    It's about rebellion. To put it cleverly: Free people have rights from God. Slaves have prvileges doled out by some form of social contract.

    cej102937

  486. Re:Not the Bible. by hand_of_lixue · · Score: 1

    Agreed!

  487. Another Dale Carnegie book that helped me more by slasher69 · · Score: 1

    How to Stop Worrying and Start Living

    I used to always be worried about what would happen the next day, for the rest of my life, etc. It took a few years to change how I think, but I think this book probably had the biggest impact on my life over any other single book.

  488. Re:Objectivisim != Libertarianism; age restrict Ra by tlambert · · Score: 1

    I would like to hear your reasoning behind this statement, "Libertarianism doesn't believe in laissez-faire capitalism." That runs completely contrary to my experience and knowledge. I understand that some left-leaning Libertarians do not subscribe to capitalism, but I have yet to find a Libertarian that does not believe in Laissez-Faire market systems as a foundational premise.

    cej102937

    Laissez faire means "1: a doctrine opposing governmental interference in economic affairs beyond the minimum necessary for the maintenance of peace and property rights. 2: a philosophy or practice characterized by a usually deliberate abstention from direction or interference especially with individual freedom of choice and action."

    The key points here are "minimum necessary", which most certainly applies to the recent quantitative easing, and before that, the TARP II and TARP, and prior to that, the deregulation under Clinton of the credit card industry which resulted in the large scale conversion of uncollateralized credit card debt, which was offered to people, including college students, with no means to repay, into collateralized debt. This was inarguably government interference where it did not belong: let the credit card companies fail, hoist on their own petard; let AIG fail, hoist on its own petard.

    Objectivists tend to conflate lassiez-faire with the concept of non-regulation; yet when the regulation falls in favor of the corporation, is that also laissez-faire? I think not.

    If you understand that all of the free money in the economy was effectively removed when the risk to the credit card companies was removed, then you understand that all of the marginal availability of money was pretty much sucked out of the economy when that happened. Lately, we've seen the remaining margin being pulled out by the oil refining companies, which do not lack for input resources at low cost, but certainly control the refining process to limit the availability of finished product. This was pretty obviously manipulated in microcosm by Chevron in California when they manipulated the clean air laws in order to require reformulation of gasoline in California to isolate the input to the market of pre-refined petroleum: if you can't buy out of state gas, then the refinery supply controls the available total supply, and therefore the saddle point for the profit/cost margin.

    Regulation would have prevented this.

    From a purely Libertarian standpoint, then, the purpose of government is not to interfere in economic relationships (which you might incorrectly term as laissez-faire), but to regulate the market so that equal opportunity exists for all (which is definitely not traditional laissez-faire "economic hands off" in the traditional definition). To put it more plainly: Enforcement of fairness is not interference.

    Where Objectivists tend to get it wrong is the same place where confidence men fail to see the illegality/immorality of their actions: the idea that "if someone is stupid enough to sell themselves into slavery, they deserve to be a slave" is contravened by true Libertarian philosophy, which agrees with the inalienability of certain rights: even should you wish to alienate those rights from yourself, a just, Libertarian society would not permit you to do so.

    To put it another way, in a purely Libertarian society, you might be permitted to sell one kidney, but you would not be permitted to sell both of them, and you would not be permitted to sell your heart, since that would kill you, robbing you of your inalienable rights. Likewise, you might be able to indenture yourself for a limited period, but you would not be able to indenture your child, since the rights of the child supersede yours as a parent.

    There is a limit to laissez-faire. That limit is the limit between anarchy and government.

    Where a Libertarian would disagree with a Democrat or a Republican is anywhere there are laws at a federal level regulating something which was not str

  489. Re:Not the Bible. by SolitaryMan · · Score: 1

    OK, now I understand what you were talking about in the first place.

    If rights come from a social contract, then what happens when the social contract changes? If you believe that your rights come from God, you will fight for those rights because they are yours. If you believe that your rights come from a social contract, then you will submit to the contract when it changes.

    The problem with this reasoning is that it can work both ways. What if your right is not God-given, but you still fill like you are entitled to it? Do you still submit because there is some authority? I don't see I difference where this authority comes from: God or another man.

    Another problem is that this means that this set of rights supposedly never changes. However, if you ask any cleric of today and any cleric 1000 years ago about slavery, something tells me that you are going to get different answers. Even if you are talking about the same religion, like catholicism is definitely more than 1k years old.

    It may be easy when we are talking about the rights that are very well accepted in civilized world: freedom of speech, women equality and so on. If we get to a more gray area however... things may get different. Is the "right to bear arms" a God given right or not?

    Even more provoking: gay rights. Do they have a God given right to marry and adopt kids? I'm pretty sure that in 100 years, this right of theirs will be as God given as your freedom of speech today. Times change. Religions change with them.

    It's about rebellion. To put it cleverly: Free people have rights from God. Slaves have prvileges doled out by some form of social contract.

    Now, to finally answer the original question. I believe that freedoms and rights are just ideas. As any idea, they come from *within* a person. If the idea is powerful and gives a man (or woman) enough inspiration to fight and convince others to fight (not necessarily literally), the idea becomes accepted, common and thus, social contract changes.

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  490. Re:Not the Bible. by LF11 · · Score: 1

    Your last paragraph is excellent, I'm going to save that quote.

    The way I see it, we are discovering our rights in a similar fashion as we discover how the universe works (physics, chemistry, biology). Part of that growth will likely be the creation of a better foundation for human rights than "God gives us these rights." I haven't yet seen it. I have seen lots of disingeneous ways to try to take away people's rights; parts of these attempts nearly always involve some declaration, implicit or explicit, that rights do not come from a higher power. This is why I prefer to think of rights as "God-given," but I understand that is a very Christian- and Western-centric view.

    As I understand it, self-defense is part of the basic right to life and liberty. Without a right of self-defense, you cannot assert your right to life or liberty.

    As I understand it, gays certainly have the right to marry and adopt children, as part of the right to liberty. This is the crux of the matter, right here. Much of the United States -- and indeed, the world -- does not believe that gays have marriage and adoption rights. That does not change the fact that gays have those rights. Social contracts does not define the rights. Sometimes we need to change social contracts to recognize newly-discovered rights, but the rights were there all along. We were too ignorant and selfish to recognize them.

    Health care is an interesting one. Lots of people think they have a right to health care. I argue that they do not, because health care is something that requires someone else's active participation. At no point can someone's "right" encroach on someone else's rights. This is fundamental to the whole theory. I cannot claim that my "right to liberty" gives me the authority to build a road through someone's property, because that encroaches on their rights. A "right to health care" exists only insofar as it does not encroach on the doctor's rights.

    Anyway, that's my rambling reasoning. I appreciate the discussion.

    cej102937

  491. Re:Not the Bible. by SolitaryMan · · Score: 1

    Sounds interesting. I certainly appreciate the discussion too.

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  492. The Management Secrets of T. John Dick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Management Secrets of T. John Dick Might not change your life, but at least make you see the funny side. Or the sequel The Rise and Fall of T. John Dick. They're a bit like Dilbert in novel form, seen through the eyes of the pointy-haired boss.

  493. book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hadji Murat by Leon Tolstoy

  494. Some Non-Fiction will help (and some Fiction too) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For your particular situation I think that these would be helpful:

    The Leadership Challenge by Kouzes and Posner ( http://www.amazon.com/The-Leadership-Challenge-Extraordinary-Organizations/dp/0470651725/ref=sr_ob_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1350654832&sr=1-1 )
    The Oz Principle by Hickman, Smith, and Conners ( http://www.amazon.com/The-Principle-Individual-Organizational-Accountability/dp/1591843480 )
    I second the Dune and Foundation suggestions...

  495. All the King's Men (Robert Penn Warren) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...reveals the nature of humankind, 'original sin' and forgiveness. (Be sure to hang in 'til the end.)

  496. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Jmc23 · · Score: 1
    I have really good focus :)

    That and I've had really good practice trying to read everything. When I was younger I could not learn anything from other people so the only way I could try and understand the world around me was by reading (couldn't really see either, face agnosia, only really learned what I look like about ~5 years ago.)

    On to your question, I did take a speed reading course as part of our nerd program in secondary 1 (canadian here). However, they couldn't measure above 3000 words/min and I was right near that limit before even starting.

    Atlas is over-estimated at 645 000 words, that's under 4 hours at 3000w/m. I wasn't going for speed though, more for the movie effect, so it actually took me a whole day curled up on bed or sofa. By movie effect I mean that I go into an almost trance like state where the words seem to disappear and it's just visual imagery in my head like a movie (but with better effects :) ). Does not work for long winded crap which is why i could never read tolkien, that's harder than making an eidetic copy of a text book for me.

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  497. Re:Atlas Shrugged by carnivore302 · · Score: 1

    Thanks, I appreciate your comments.

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  498. The Beak of the Finch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Astonishing to me. Evolution is continuous, minute by minute. Changed the way I experience change.

    http://www.amazon.com/Beak-Finch-Story-Evolution-Time/dp/067973337X

  499. Getting Things Done by sfled · · Score: 1

    by David Allen.

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  500. learning about yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To go far you must start near.

    To know others and the world around you, you first need to know yourself.

    If u are interested in learning about yourself, who you are, what your motivations are, what your thoughts are, what your feelings are,
    what your relationships are, the following books will help:

    On Relationships and Commentaries on Living - J K Krishnamurti
    The man who loved Seagulls - Osho
    The power of now - Eckhart Tolle

    Actually if you truly know yourself, who you are, you will not need to look outside at all, you will lfind all your answers.

  501. Re:Atlas Shrugged by FreekyGeek · · Score: 1

    I completely agree. I, also, have read most of Rand's works and when I was younger it seemed so clear to me that they were holy dogma. As I got older, I started to realie that theya re the epitome of "sounds good on paper". Her philosophy sounds nice in theory, but in the real world it not only wouldn't workl but would lead to pure evil. As doodleboy said quite nicely, "real life is a good deal more complex than that, and the binary distinctions favoured by ideologues like Rand in no way correspond with reality." Philosophies based on hate ARE untenable. And if you're perfectly OK with letting someone starve to death because you think they didn't work hard enough - you're full of hate.

    In fact Libertarianism itself is pretty much the same deal - it sounds great on paper, and it would work just great if every cityien were and educated, intelligent, hard-working, self-reliant, accountable, honest, and all kinds of other things. But in real life most people aren't that way, so any society based on that concept can never work. Libertrianism shares with Objectivism the fact that neither owuld ever work in reality, but Libertarianism isn't as hateful, just naive.