Does anyone know of a project to bring some of the fast Javascript implementations like V8 to the server? It could be like PHP or Perl, only very fast-- if the numbers hold out. I would like to write in the same language on the client and the server. (Java almost achieved that...)
Holy crap, that's scary! I imagine a server that randomly decides not to support certain language features and leaves you having to having to write kludgey works arounds so that all your code looks like this: try {
attempt_thing()
}// Maybe the user is using internet explorer catch {
try
{
attempt_different_thing()
}// Crap!
catch
{
try
{
alert("We're sorry, but your web browser doesn't support whatever it is were trying to do. I would elaborate more on this, but halfway into the 14th try catch block, I just forgot. I recomend that you get a new browser, install it on a new PC, and, if that doesn't work, then piss off!");
}catch
{// I can't remember what I was supposed to do here.
}
} }
There's a world of difference between a guy who's been doing help desk and a guy who's been doing QA. The responses to these two questions aren't going to be the same.
Right. My response to one was "screw you, help-desk jockey", while my response to the other was "screw you, test monkey".
Evolution does not mean "survival of the most complex", or "survival of that which conforms to some lofty ideal". Evolution refers to a change in allele frequency over time. This will continue as long as people are having children.
People may be having children at an earlier age than they were 50 years ago, but how do we compare to the people from 200 years ago, or the dark ages, when it was acceptable to marry your daughter off at 13?
Lastly, he seems to be judging the entire population based on the most extreme outliers. This is like saying that America is a country full of superhuman muscle-men, because a few guys on the toughman contest can drag a transfer truck with their teeth.
Would Yoko Ono have sued about this if Michael Moore borrowed that same 15 second clip?
I think not.
It's only OK to "Imagine" a world that believes exactly as you do.
If someone was trying to say that you were part of some insanely elaborate and genocidal conspiracy (as Stein did by claiming that Darwin, Science and Atheism caused the holocaust), would you be helping that person?
(Emphasis mine) No. The whole point of the film was to create a vast conspiracy theory tying secularism, science, atheism, Darwin, and the Holocaust together. Here are the words to John Lennon's Imagine:
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today...
Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace...
You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will be as one
If I understand correctly, this was used to convince the viewer that popular culture has turned against him, and whatever each viewer think is going to happen, has already begun.
For a Web site, put up a static page asking users to wait while additional resources are brought online.
We're sorry for the inconvenience, but our systems seem to have been shut down. We've asked leroy, rufus, and heraldo to hit the power button, and we assure you that, once they've found that button, they will push it, and then, once the mandatory scandisk operation has completed, the Windows server screen will appear, and once the kernel operations have completed, the services you have requested will be available.
And that will be awesome!
While you're waiting, here are some links to our competitors' sites. Remember to open them in a new tab, so you can occasionally come back and hit "refresh". We promise, we're almost ready to serve you.
I guess now by doing this he can have a parody in the hands of his fans while the original version of the song is still popular. If you're trying to lampoon popular culture, releasing an album at a time means that you will always be a good deal behind the times.
That's not as good an idea as you might imagine. I do the same thing -- parody songs. Popular != well known. Older means more people have become familiar with it, particularly those who don't keep current on the genre the song is from. If fewer people recognize it, the act falls flat. I'll bet Weird Al is aware of this since he typically runs years behind a "hit" despite producing things in the interim. Plus, if he seeks permission (he used to sometimes) it'd be easier to get when something's no longer hot. Very new, and they won't want it made fun of. Older, and the parody can bring the original back up the chart.
And are people more receptive to parody once they have started to get bored of the original? (When they are in that area where they aren't sick of it, but don't really care either).
Much like Trent Reznor and Radiohead, he's got tons of cash to play around with and experiment - cash made while riding the corporate engine. I'll subscribe to your theory when I see a brand new artist do the same thing and make a profit from it.
If he ever does release another full album, I have a title for it.
>>>94% of all internet facts are made up on the spot.
Except this one is verifiable: 1988 - download of 880k floppy game over then-typical 2400 baud modem =~ 1 hour (from my own personal experience) 2008 - download of 4000 megabyte game over typical 10 Mbit/s cable =~ 1 hour (math)
Naturally the actual time will vary if your 1988 computer had a double-sized floppy (takes 2 hours) or if you are downloading a dual-sided DVD (also 2 hours). But Slashdot's signature length limit precludes me from including all that detail. The important point to note is that speeds have escalated to match demand. We have never experienced the so-called "speed limit" that certain Chicken Littles keep claiming we're going to hit. They are just blowing a lot of hot air, and have been doing so for almost 15 years now. Their claims have no merit.
So are you saying that our system/network resource consumption will increase to match availability, or that we will never reach technical limitations and that all of the moore's law type observations will continue to infinity? I can agree with the first one, but not the second.
According to the article:... I asked him if he'd be willing to DOS us, and he flatly said, "Unfortunately, it may affect other devices between here and there so it's not really a good idea."
So if they tried to launch a DOS against me and inadvertently take out all the devices a few hops before they get to me, how is this attack going to reach me?
They will have no way of knowing if the attack even worked, since all routes to me are down.
I have this really cool exploit. I open outlook, type in the email address of any one person, shoot the PC, and really quickly hit "send". I can't test it because it would kill every person between me and my target, but I'm pretty sure it can't be stopped.
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I'm curious, what gives you the idea that C# fragmented "the whole programming scene"? As far as I can tell, C# has really just replaced C++ on the Windows client side, where Java never had a foothold to begin with.
So, where is this fragmentation you speak of?
Well, C# is being used for ASP.Net development. It may be pulling attention away from J2EE by providing an alternative for the "ewww...basic" crowd.
1) It's fun. When you plunk down $20 for you and your significant other to see a movie in a theater, you have no chance of ever getting that money back. But it's worth it to you for the entertainment. Same goes with gambling. You lose money but a lot of people enjoy it. I don't, personally, but many people do.
2) It's profitable. When playing poker, you don't have to beat the house, you just have to beat the other players. The house takes a portion of the winnings but if you can consistently beat the rest of the table then you come out ahead. It's not like other casino games in this respect. You're not playing against the house, you're just paying the house for the privilege of playing against other people. You can, and many people do, make a living playing poker.
Well, there are actually three types:
3) Idiots think they will win big.
But the point being, with reasons 1 and 2 it's possible to gamble without being irrational or stupid.
So, to paraphrase: 1. It's fun. 2. You can make money at it. 3. Stupid people think you can make money at it.
I can't imagine a piece of kit on Earth surviving 18+ years with only five service calls.
The Panasonic portable TV I left in a house I moved out of in 2004 or 5 (Paxil withdrawal, home foreclosure, bankrupcy, it's diaried at K5 somewhere) was the same one I watched Niel and Buzz land on the moon with!
It had two repairs, despite falling out of moving vehicles, dropped, and suffering other indignities: The insulation on the power cord cracked and caused a short (fixed with electrical tape) and the tuner knob broke (fixed by using pliars to change channels).
They don't make 'em like they used to.
So you're saying we should send that television into space?
"Thank god we have George W Bush in office to uphold the law and protect the constitution. Who knows what a bleeding heart liberal like Al Gore would have done with it?"
Considering that he's telling his followers to do "civil disobedience" to halt new coal plant construction, gee, as President, he probably would have stopped any new power plant construction, period. I don't care what you think of Bush, if you can't see that Gore has a messiah complex, you're blind. Yeah, lets put a guy like that in the oval office, where he can "save us" whether we like it or not.
I may end up regretting this, but I have to ask, do you have any references? As for the messiah complex, he gives a powerpoint presentation. I'm sure you'd like to stick your head in the sand and assume that anyone who actually mentions the issue is "freaking out about manbearpig", but do you have any facts?
Gore is also a longtime proponent of the "living Constitution" theory... that it's "living, breathing, and evolving",
Yes. The constitution has always, since its inception, been interpreted with the caveat "within reason", and it has always contained subjective phrases, such as "cruel and unusual". So, as the standards of the time change, we can either speculate about what the average judge of 200 years ago would have said in one particular instance, or we can apply the standards of today.
and that the actual text doesn't matter, as long as we interpret it correctly "for the times".
No, the text matters very much. can you name one example in which he is going against the letter of any constitutional amendment?
So never mind that tenth amendment thing...
what the hell are you talking about? Is Al gore encouraging some state to print its own money, or to sign peace treaties with other countries?
>>>>>>"did not have enough ballots according to Florida legal standards (where hanging chads are called null votes).
>Ahh, but that would have ignored "voter intent".... >
Yes true, but I'm sorry, the law is the law. You don't change it after the fact (although bleeding-hearts like to ignore the law). If the law states hanging chads are "null votes" then that's what you follow. No exceptions.
Thank god we have George W Bush in office to uphold the law and protect the constitution. Who knows what a bleeding heart liberal like Al Gore would have done with it?
Now that Jack is defying the court order requiring him to have another member in good standing of the Florida bar to submit motions for him, what other sanctions can be placed upon him? Is there a more extreme penalty for him beyond permanent disbarrment?
Agreed. Is it a privacy invasion to look at the face of someone who is walking through an airport? Where do you draw the line? If that person is fidgeting and glancing up at the cameras, should we ignore it? If that person is breathing heavy, then is that too private for security to take into account?
I find it amazing that so many people here are saying that it's Orwellian and unconstitutional to look at someone's behavior, facial expressions, and, yes, blood pressure, if it can be ascertained from a distance. But, then, many of these same people are saying "look at their skin color, that's all you need to know". It's as if the issue of fairness gets thrown out the window when racial or sexual profiling are mentioned, but the issue becomes sacrosanct when the biometric/behavioral profiling is mentioned.
Some people have stated that we need an open source voting software, and we do, but can you imagine how it will go over when Sean Hannity begins claiming that anyone can go to the website the night before the election and change the software to vote for their candidate? It doesn't matter if it's not true, bigger lies are repeated every single day, in politics. We would need a limited-access open source project, in which the general public has read-only access, but any changes must be made by a limited group of people who are either well-known well-trusted public figures, or representatives of organizations.
If we paid several different organizations to spare a programmer or two to collaborate on the job, and required them to keep it available via subversion, then we might be able to get something done. From a technical standpoint, it probably will not work better, but, politically speaking, we would need to have some public figures to hold accountable.
We don't trust our politicians to do it right. I can't speak for everybody, but I'd bet that there is a significant population of us who are worried about handing the entire Democratic process over to congress and saying "Ok, give us something that works well, and doesn't have any crazy or corrupt loopholes in it"
We also can't trust each other to do it right. The most disgusting thing I remember in politics was after the 2000 election, when my party, the democrats, started complaining about all the corrupt practices taking place in Florida and all over the country. The republicans didn't care because their guy got the prize. Then, after a couple of weeks, maybe a month, the democrats dropped the issue entirely and it became business as usual. Meanwhile, those of us who were outraged at the outright corruption in the most fundamental component of our political system, were regarded as part of the tin-foil hat crowd.
The only way anything will ever get done is if we make a big deal about it next year. If it sounds the slightest bit like someone is complaining that their guy lost, then nothing will get done. If we wait any longer, then we will be caught up in another campaign season, and it will be heavily politicized.
Hmmm...So the Diebold system will give McCain a billion extra votes for having two cs in his name and it will give Obama three billion extra votes for having two As? What crazy language are those things written in?
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Does anyone know of a project to bring some of the fast Javascript implementations like V8 to the server? It could be like PHP or Perl, only very fast-- if the numbers hold out. I would like to write in the same language on the client and the server. (Java almost achieved that...)
Holy crap, that's scary! I imagine a server that randomly decides not to support certain language features and leaves you having to having to write kludgey works arounds so that all your code looks like this:
try
{
attempt_thing()
}// Maybe the user is using internet explorer // I can't remember what I was supposed to do here.
catch
{
try
{
attempt_different_thing()
}// Crap!
catch
{
try
{
alert("We're sorry, but your web browser doesn't support whatever it is were trying to do. I would elaborate more on this, but halfway into the 14th try catch block, I just forgot. I recomend that you get a new browser, install it on a new PC, and, if that doesn't work, then piss off!");
}catch
{
}
}
}
I dunno, it works out if you do consumer OSs:
Win 3
Win 95
Win 98
Win ME
Win XP
Vista
Win 7
Umm...Wasn't there a windows 2, or an original windows, or did they skip straight to Windows 3.1?
There's a world of difference between a guy who's been doing help desk and a guy who's been doing QA. The responses to these two questions aren't going to be the same.
Right. My response to one was "screw you, help-desk jockey", while my response to the other was "screw you, test monkey".
Completely different...
IANEB, but this guy is full of crap.
Would Yoko Ono have sued about this if Michael Moore borrowed that same 15 second clip?
I think not.
It's only OK to "Imagine" a world that believes exactly as you do.
If someone was trying to say that you were part of some insanely elaborate and genocidal conspiracy (as Stein did by claiming that Darwin, Science and Atheism caused the holocaust), would you be helping that person?
Could it be any other song?
(Emphasis mine) No. The whole point of the film was to create a vast conspiracy theory tying secularism, science, atheism, Darwin, and the Holocaust together. Here are the words to John Lennon's Imagine:
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
If I understand correctly, this was used to convince the viewer that popular culture has turned against him, and whatever each viewer think is going to happen, has already begun.
> Can't the film makers just countersue to get the losses incurred by this lawsuit?
How will you coutersue if you're bankrupted before you can?
This is Ben Stein, we're talking about. He'll just do another Visine commercial and be cranking out more propaganda by the end of the week.
George W. Bush graduated from Yale.
And has spent the rest of his life acting as if he was ashamed to have ever gone to college at all.
If they mine data for behavior statistics, and they kill advertising.... what will they use the behavioral statistics for?
*scratches head*
To determine which address to send the DMCA threats to...
For a Web site, put up a static page asking users to wait while additional resources are brought online.
We're sorry for the inconvenience, but our systems seem to have been shut down. We've asked leroy, rufus, and heraldo to hit the power button, and we assure you that, once they've found that button, they will push it, and then, once the mandatory scandisk operation has completed, the Windows server screen will appear, and once the kernel operations have completed, the services you have requested will be available.
And that will be awesome!
While you're waiting, here are some links to our competitors' sites. Remember to open them in a new tab, so you can occasionally come back and hit "refresh". We promise, we're almost ready to serve you.
I guess now by doing this he can have a parody in the hands of his fans while the original version of the song is still popular. If you're trying to lampoon popular culture, releasing an album at a time means that you will always be a good deal behind the times.
That's not as good an idea as you might imagine. I do the same thing -- parody songs. Popular != well known. Older means more people have become familiar with it, particularly those who don't keep current on the genre the song is from. If fewer people recognize it, the act falls flat. I'll bet Weird Al is aware of this since he typically runs years behind a "hit" despite producing things in the interim. Plus, if he seeks permission (he used to sometimes) it'd be easier to get when something's no longer hot. Very new, and they won't want it made fun of. Older, and the parody can bring the original back up the chart.
And are people more receptive to parody once they have started to get bored of the original? (When they are in that area where they aren't sick of it, but don't really care either).
Much like Trent Reznor and Radiohead, he's got tons of cash to play around with and experiment - cash made while riding the corporate engine. I'll subscribe to your theory when I see a brand new artist do the same thing and make a profit from it.
If he ever does release another full album, I have a title for it.
"Wierd Al: Much like Trent Reznor and Radiohead".
Thank you Mordaximus!
>>>94% of all internet facts are made up on the spot.
Except this one is verifiable:
1988 - download of 880k floppy game over then-typical 2400 baud modem =~ 1 hour (from my own personal experience)
2008 - download of 4000 megabyte game over typical 10 Mbit/s cable =~ 1 hour (math)
Naturally the actual time will vary if your 1988 computer had a double-sized floppy (takes 2 hours) or if you are downloading a dual-sided DVD (also 2 hours). But Slashdot's signature length limit precludes me from including all that detail. The important point to note is that speeds have escalated to match demand. We have never experienced the so-called "speed limit" that certain Chicken Littles keep claiming we're going to hit. They are just blowing a lot of hot air, and have been doing so for almost 15 years now. Their claims have no merit.
So are you saying that our system/network resource consumption will increase to match availability, or that we will never reach technical limitations and that all of the moore's law type observations will continue to infinity? I can agree with the first one, but not the second.
According to the article: ... I asked him if he'd be willing to DOS us, and he flatly said, "Unfortunately, it may affect other devices between here and there so it's not really a good idea."
So if they tried to launch a DOS against me and inadvertently take out all the devices a few hops before they get to me, how is this attack going to reach me?
They will have no way of knowing if the attack even worked, since all routes to me are down.
I have this really cool exploit. I open outlook, type in the email address of any one person, shoot the PC, and really quickly hit "send". I can't test it because it would kill every person between me and my target, but I'm pretty sure it can't be stopped.
I'm curious, what gives you the idea that C# fragmented "the whole programming scene"? As far as I can tell, C# has really just replaced C++ on the Windows client side, where Java never had a foothold to begin with.
So, where is this fragmentation you speak of?
Well, C# is being used for ASP.Net development. It may be pulling attention away from J2EE by providing an alternative for the "ewww...basic" crowd.
People do it for two reasons.
1) It's fun. When you plunk down $20 for you and your significant other to see a movie in a theater, you have no chance of ever getting that money back. But it's worth it to you for the entertainment. Same goes with gambling. You lose money but a lot of people enjoy it. I don't, personally, but many people do.
2) It's profitable. When playing poker, you don't have to beat the house, you just have to beat the other players. The house takes a portion of the winnings but if you can consistently beat the rest of the table then you come out ahead. It's not like other casino games in this respect. You're not playing against the house, you're just paying the house for the privilege of playing against other people. You can, and many people do, make a living playing poker.
Well, there are actually three types:
3) Idiots think they will win big.
But the point being, with reasons 1 and 2 it's possible to gamble without being irrational or stupid.
So, to paraphrase:
1. It's fun.
2. You can make money at it.
3. Stupid people think you can make money at it.
I can't imagine a piece of kit on Earth surviving 18+ years with only five service calls.
The Panasonic portable TV I left in a house I moved out of in 2004 or 5 (Paxil withdrawal, home foreclosure, bankrupcy, it's diaried at K5 somewhere) was the same one I watched Niel and Buzz land on the moon with!
It had two repairs, despite falling out of moving vehicles, dropped, and suffering other indignities: The insulation on the power cord cracked and caused a short (fixed with electrical tape) and the tuner knob broke (fixed by using pliars to change channels).
They don't make 'em like they used to.
So you're saying we should send that television into space?
"Thank god we have George W Bush in office to uphold the law and protect the constitution. Who knows what a bleeding heart liberal like Al Gore would have done with it?"
Considering that he's telling his followers to do "civil disobedience" to halt new coal plant construction, gee, as President, he probably would have stopped any new power plant construction, period. I don't care what you think of Bush, if you can't see that Gore has a messiah complex, you're blind. Yeah, lets put a guy like that in the oval office, where he can "save us" whether we like it or not.
I may end up regretting this, but I have to ask, do you have any references? As for the messiah complex, he gives a powerpoint presentation. I'm sure you'd like to stick your head in the sand and assume that anyone who actually mentions the issue is "freaking out about manbearpig", but do you have any facts?
Gore is also a longtime proponent of the "living Constitution" theory... that it's "living, breathing, and evolving",
Yes. The constitution has always, since its inception, been interpreted with the caveat "within reason", and it has always contained subjective phrases, such as "cruel and unusual". So, as the standards of the time change, we can either speculate about what the average judge of 200 years ago would have said in one particular instance, or we can apply the standards of today.
and that the actual text doesn't matter, as long as we interpret it correctly "for the times".
No, the text matters very much. can you name one example in which he is going against the letter of any constitutional amendment?
So never mind that tenth amendment thing...
what the hell are you talking about? Is Al gore encouraging some state to print its own money, or to sign peace treaties with other countries?
>>>>>>"did not have enough ballots according to Florida legal standards (where hanging chads are called null votes).
>Ahh, but that would have ignored "voter intent"....
>
Yes true, but I'm sorry, the law is the law. You don't change it after the fact (although bleeding-hearts like to ignore the law). If the law states hanging chads are "null votes" then that's what you follow. No exceptions.
Thank god we have George W Bush in office to uphold the law and protect the constitution. Who knows what a bleeding heart liberal like Al Gore would have done with it?
Now that Jack is defying the court order requiring him to have another member in good standing of the Florida bar to submit motions for him, what other sanctions can be placed upon him? Is there a more extreme penalty for him beyond permanent disbarrment?
Permanent dismemberment...
Agreed. Is it a privacy invasion to look at the face of someone who is walking through an airport? Where do you draw the line? If that person is fidgeting and glancing up at the cameras, should we ignore it? If that person is breathing heavy, then is that too private for security to take into account?
I find it amazing that so many people here are saying that it's Orwellian and unconstitutional to look at someone's behavior, facial expressions, and, yes, blood pressure, if it can be ascertained from a distance. But, then, many of these same people are saying "look at their skin color, that's all you need to know". It's as if the issue of fairness gets thrown out the window when racial or sexual profiling are mentioned, but the issue becomes sacrosanct when the biometric/behavioral profiling is mentioned.
Some people have stated that we need an open source voting software, and we do, but can you imagine how it will go over when Sean Hannity begins claiming that anyone can go to the website the night before the election and change the software to vote for their candidate? It doesn't matter if it's not true, bigger lies are repeated every single day, in politics. We would need a limited-access open source project, in which the general public has read-only access, but any changes must be made by a limited group of people who are either well-known well-trusted public figures, or representatives of organizations.
If we paid several different organizations to spare a programmer or two to collaborate on the job, and required them to keep it available via subversion, then we might be able to get something done. From a technical standpoint, it probably will not work better, but, politically speaking, we would need to have some public figures to hold accountable.
We don't trust our politicians to do it right. I can't speak for everybody, but I'd bet that there is a significant population of us who are worried about handing the entire Democratic process over to congress and saying "Ok, give us something that works well, and doesn't have any crazy or corrupt loopholes in it"
We also can't trust each other to do it right. The most disgusting thing I remember in politics was after the 2000 election, when my party, the democrats, started complaining about all the corrupt practices taking place in Florida and all over the country. The republicans didn't care because their guy got the prize. Then, after a couple of weeks, maybe a month, the democrats dropped the issue entirely and it became business as usual. Meanwhile, those of us who were outraged at the outright corruption in the most fundamental component of our political system, were regarded as part of the tin-foil hat crowd.
The only way anything will ever get done is if we make a big deal about it next year. If it sounds the slightest bit like someone is complaining that their guy lost, then nothing will get done. If we wait any longer, then we will be caught up in another campaign season, and it will be heavily politicized.
Didn't anybody see Man of the Year!?
Hmmm...So the Diebold system will give McCain a billion extra votes for having two cs in his name and it will give Obama three billion extra votes for having two As? What crazy language are those things written in?
It's a shame, because it affects the conclusion. IMHO it should be -
Gamers disaffected with society, resulting in depression, supporting evidence consisting of substance use...
When what we'll get is
"Gamers depressed! Turn to drugs!" or "Games depress people and are a gateway to drug use!" or "Drug use causes depression and can lead to gaming!"
The worst one was when it got paraphrased as "Paris Hilton-Lindsey Lohan Catfight".