Everyone except IBM, who could use their patent as much as they like. Ducky...
Patents are often used like trading cards. One company will put up N of their patents for use by another company who supplies M of theirs in exchange. It's just another card in the deck.
Many moons ago I...er...I mean "a friend" worked at Cabletron in Durham, NH. There was a glass walled server room that had a badge lock, and all the 'important' server machines went in there. After a couple of power blinkages, someone got the go-ahead to install a massive diesel UPS unit outside the building. There were a few (noisy) test firings of the diesel, and all seemed to be working as planned.
Then we had an ice storm which caused a power outage one weekend...
The diesel fired up...the power flowed...and all the servers in the server room stayed up. Two problems though:
1) The air conditioning was not on the UPS. The machines continued to run...without A/C...for hours. The machines started overheating and crashing. Some poor schmuck IT guy drove in from home...through the ice storm...to investigate why he couldn't contact one of the servers. There he found:
2) The badge-access door lock system was not on the UPS either. He managed to get into the building somehow, but when he got to the server room and discovered the A/C problem, he couldn't open the server room door to let some cooler air in and/or shut down the machines gracefully. Without a key to the lock, he wasn't getting in. He sat and waited for the key to arrive, as more systems baked and died.
Several machines and disks were lost in that exercise...and the UPS was rewired shortly afterwards. A liquid crystal thermometer got taped up on the inside of one of the windows too.
If I go to the amazon.com site and sign in, then go to something on the 'my account' page, I get the locked padlock symbol at the lower right (signed/encrypted page.)
When I go to the signin page on mturk.com, the same locked padlock is there, but it has a red diagonal bar through it.
Way back when, I was working at an IBM site (STF) that had a boatload of mainframes and equipment on a raised floor area that was badge-access only. Every summer we'd get interns to learn the finer points of computer science by doing things like bursting printouts from the lineprinter and delivering them. Seems that the intern introductory tour had gotten a bit lax... One day a cleaning person knocked at the door to the raised floor to get let in to empty the wastebaskets. Nobody else was around, so one of the interns decided to let them in. Of course they pushed The Big Red Switch that was right next to the door. Oops. Whole floor went down...hard, about 10% of the stuff didn't come back up when the power was restored. Not fun...
They revised the introductory tour a bit, and added a label to the EPO switch.
They keep a to/from record, and if the to/from record is not found, they add the record to the list and respond 'server busy, try later' to the sending mailer. Most (and there's the rub) legit mail servers will re-try the transmission later. The spambots only try once and give up. The to/from list is aged so old entries drop off eventually.
This has eliminated a huge percentage of the spam mail for us, we went from getting 100+/day to getting 3/week.
The downside is that time-critical messages get through at the mercy and schedule of the sender's retry interval. Stuff like "I forgot my account info, please send it to me" rarely gets through on the first try, although it's a simple matter to ask twice. Also, not all mailers do the retry thing, or they wait a looong time to do the retry (days).
It depends on how many first-time emails you get. If you are doing eBay selling and get 'question for seller' messages, they're going to be delayed, and that isn't a good thing if there is 10 minutes left in the auction. Several folks on the hosting service complained about that aspect and asked to opt-out as a result...
...to this problem. We simply require all telemarketers to make calls with the 'telemarketing' bit set on. That way the calls can be automatically screened out.
You know, just like the 'copy protected' bit that the RIAA/MPAA is insisting needs to be there to protect *their* rights??
No amount of "recommending" or "thinking differently" is going to make space repairs possible."
Funny, I never mentioned repairing anything...you did. I mentioned unmanned supply ships. I mentioned an overlapping shuttle schedule. I mentioned towing.
Am I being "ridiculous" because I suggest taking a detailed look at the important bits before the shuttle attempts re-entry? You suggest the only real solution is to "check the craft mid-flight for...damage" Gee, and I thought that was the same thing...silly me. I guess it's far more important to disagree over the terminology "pre-flight" vs "mid-flight". Sorry, my mistake. I thought we were trying to address improving the safety of lives and ships here, while what you feel we should be discussing is what the right prefix we should be using on a word.
Heh. For some reason I seem to be drawn to movie references today (Silent Running, Apollo 13 (implied)) but...
Remember the bit in "Contact" where the billionaire says "Why build one when you can build two for twice the cost?"
You bring up a good point, I'm not sure how the 'spinning reserve' question would be resolved for a reasonable price, and I agree that there is a strong odor of Pork about the place...but as long as the science-to-pork ratio stays to a tolerable level, it still makes some progress.
I was just figuring it could be either a) unmanned supply rockets b) overlapping shuttle mission schedules (I'll watch your back, you watch mine), or some contingency plan that *does* allow the shuttle to get to a safe haven (parking orbit, ISS, whatever) under it's own power (but what if the power goes out??) The important bit with the 'warm backup' plan is to buy some time for a crippled shuttle, not necessarily solve the whole problem immediately.
So you can't repair your 747...If the situation truly was a guaranteed crash, and you knew it, would you still head to the airport and the surrounding city, or would you go for an unpopulated cornfield somewhere??? (shades of 9/11...)
True, so duct tape a camcorder to a jetpack, and get a long extension cord, and you're on the right track for something they can carry every mission...
You're misidentifying the orbit phase of the mission.
You're misidentifying the definition of 'recommendation'. Maybe 'the orbit phase' has always previously been considered part of one long trip. We're talking about recommendations for future flights here. That might mean (gasp!) doing things differently or thinking about things differently to avoid the same outcome.
Ya, but the big difference is that the shuttle crew has the *opportunity* to have some surveillance checks...the 747 isn't flying for 2 weeks.
Think Silent Running with the little drone guys.
And as far as 'you can't fix it so why look?', the flipside is 'if you know it's going to blow up, why try to land it?'
If you know there is a problem, you have an outside chance of doing something about it. If you don't know, then you're screwed.
Heck, I'm sure that given the choice of toasting a crew and a multi-billion-dollar ship, and sitting down to do some creative thinking, NASA would choose the thinking.
Even if it couldn't be repaired quickly, they might luck out with the launch windows and be able to launch another ship/shuttle to offload the crew, and nudge the damaged into a higher orbit to buy some time. Maybe having a rescue mission waiting in the wings becomes a new launch criteria.
If you really can't fix it, you tow it up to the USS and use it for a new rec room or something:)
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Everyone except IBM, who could use their patent as much as they like. Ducky...
Patents are often used like trading cards. One company will put up N of their patents for use by another company who supplies M of theirs in exchange. It's just another card in the deck.
And in unrelated news, SCO has filed to trademark any portrayal of water swirling around in a toilet bowl, as that is their new corporate logo.
Many moons ago I...er...I mean "a friend" worked at Cabletron in Durham, NH. There was a glass walled server room that had a badge lock, and all the 'important' server machines went in there. After a couple of power blinkages, someone got the go-ahead to install a massive diesel UPS unit outside the building. There were a few (noisy) test firings of the diesel, and all seemed to be working as planned.
Then we had an ice storm which caused a power outage one weekend...
The diesel fired up...the power flowed...and all the servers in the server room stayed up. Two problems though:
1) The air conditioning was not on the UPS. The machines continued to run...without A/C...for hours. The machines started overheating and crashing. Some poor schmuck IT guy drove in from home...through the ice storm...to investigate why he couldn't contact one of the servers. There he found:
2) The badge-access door lock system was not on the UPS either. He managed to get into the building somehow, but when he got to the server room and discovered the A/C problem, he couldn't open the server room door to let some cooler air in and/or shut down the machines gracefully. Without a key to the lock, he wasn't getting in. He sat and waited for the key to arrive, as more systems baked and died.
Several machines and disks were lost in that exercise...and the UPS was rewired shortly afterwards. A liquid crystal thermometer got taped up on the inside of one of the windows too.
They've got competition, and in order to head that off, they'll pay now. Much cheaper to pay $$$ now instead of losing $$$$$ later...
It's pathetic that you apparently believe that more of the same from the republicans is the answer...
Naturally you won't be able to bring lip gloss, toothpaste, or any other gel or liquid into outer space. Or shoes.
A SWTPC 6800 was my first computer too...I spent the better part of a couple of weeks assembling it.
I still have it...and my 4k and 8k BASIC cassettes...by Robert (?) Uiterwyk
Tell him thanks for me- I learned a lot from that!
Dunno if this means anything, but...
Using Mozilla:
If I go to the amazon.com site and sign in, then go to something on the 'my account' page, I get the locked padlock symbol at the lower right (signed/encrypted page.)
When I go to the signin page on mturk.com, the same locked padlock is there, but it has a red diagonal bar through it.
Why?
Well, it was coughing up blood last night...
They've got their HP decoder rings on, so no wonder they don't show up.
Way back when, I was working at an IBM site (STF) that had a boatload of mainframes and equipment on a raised floor area that was badge-access only. Every summer we'd get interns to learn the finer points of computer science by doing things like bursting printouts from the lineprinter and delivering them. Seems that the intern introductory tour had gotten a bit lax... One day a cleaning person knocked at the door to the raised floor to get let in to empty the wastebaskets. Nobody else was around, so one of the interns decided to let them in. Of course they pushed The Big Red Switch that was right next to the door. Oops. Whole floor went down...hard, about 10% of the stuff didn't come back up when the power was restored. Not fun...
They revised the introductory tour a bit, and added a label to the EPO switch.
(And no, it wasn't me who hit the button...)
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They keep a to/from record, and if the to/from record is not found, they add the record to the list and respond 'server busy, try later' to the sending mailer. Most (and there's the rub) legit mail servers will re-try the transmission later. The spambots only try once and give up. The to/from list is aged so old entries drop off eventually.
This has eliminated a huge percentage of the spam mail for us, we went from getting 100+/day to getting 3/week.
The downside is that time-critical messages get through at the mercy and schedule of the sender's retry interval. Stuff like "I forgot my account info, please send it to me" rarely gets through on the first try, although it's a simple matter to ask twice. Also, not all mailers do the retry thing, or they wait a looong time to do the retry (days).
It depends on how many first-time emails you get. If you are doing eBay selling and get 'question for seller' messages, they're going to be delayed, and that isn't a good thing if there is 10 minutes left in the auction. Several folks on the hosting service complained about that aspect and asked to opt-out as a result...
Let's see 'em try to do the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs!
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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0202603/
Just watch him in 'Coupling' and you'll see he's perfect for Arthur...
The evil bastards! It's all a plot to get ratings back from E!, which we all know will soon be airing True Hollywood Story: SCO
So...basically MS is planning on bundling their version of a popular product with their latest OS. Gee...where have I heard that plan before?
I'm so glad that MS has learned their lesson from the anti-trust trial.
On the bright side, maybe all of those used-to-work-for-Netscape lawyers will have something to do now.
...to this problem. We simply require all telemarketers to make calls with the 'telemarketing' bit set on. That way the calls can be automatically screened out.
You know, just like the 'copy protected' bit that the RIAA/MPAA is insisting needs to be there to protect *their* rights??
No amount of "recommending" or "thinking differently" is going to make space repairs possible."
Funny, I never mentioned repairing anything...you did. I mentioned unmanned supply ships. I mentioned an overlapping shuttle schedule. I mentioned towing.
Am I being "ridiculous" because I suggest taking a detailed look at the important bits before the shuttle attempts re-entry? You suggest the only real solution is to "check the craft mid-flight for...damage" Gee, and I thought that was the same thing...silly me. I guess it's far more important to disagree over the terminology "pre-flight" vs "mid-flight". Sorry, my mistake. I thought we were trying to address improving the safety of lives and ships here, while what you feel we should be discussing is what the right prefix we should be using on a word.
Golly, I guess I do feel ridiculous.
Heh. For some reason I seem to be drawn to movie references today (Silent Running, Apollo 13 (implied)) but...
Remember the bit in "Contact" where the billionaire says "Why build one when you can build two for twice the cost?"
You bring up a good point, I'm not sure how the 'spinning reserve' question would be resolved for a reasonable price, and I agree that there is a strong odor of Pork about the place...but as long as the science-to-pork ratio stays to a tolerable level, it still makes some progress.
I was just figuring it could be either a) unmanned supply rockets b) overlapping shuttle mission schedules (I'll watch your back, you watch mine), or some contingency plan that *does* allow the shuttle to get to a safe haven (parking orbit, ISS, whatever) under it's own power (but what if the power goes out??) The important bit with the 'warm backup' plan is to buy some time for a crippled shuttle, not necessarily solve the whole problem immediately.
...and another thing :)
So you can't repair your 747...If the situation truly was a guaranteed crash, and you knew it, would you still head to the airport and the surrounding city, or would you go for an unpopulated cornfield somewhere??? (shades of 9/11...)
True, so duct tape a camcorder to a jetpack, and get a long extension cord, and you're on the right track for something they can carry every mission...
You're misidentifying the orbit phase of the mission.
You're misidentifying the definition of 'recommendation'. Maybe 'the orbit phase' has always previously been considered part of one long trip. We're talking about recommendations for future flights here. That might mean (gasp!) doing things differently or thinking about things differently to avoid the same outcome.
No shit. Not by itself. Read what I wrote before you spew.
Ya, but the big difference is that the shuttle crew has the *opportunity* to have some surveillance checks...the 747 isn't flying for 2 weeks.
:)
Think Silent Running with the little drone guys.
And as far as 'you can't fix it so why look?', the flipside is 'if you know it's going to blow up, why try to land it?'
If you know there is a problem, you have an outside chance of doing something about it. If you don't know, then you're screwed.
Heck, I'm sure that given the choice of toasting a crew and a multi-billion-dollar ship, and sitting down to do some creative thinking, NASA would choose the thinking.
Even if it couldn't be repaired quickly, they might luck out with the launch windows and be able to launch another ship/shuttle to offload the crew, and nudge the damaged into a higher orbit to buy some time. Maybe having a rescue mission waiting in the wings becomes a new launch criteria.
If you really can't fix it, you tow it up to the USS and use it for a new rec room or something