In the majority of those cases, you as the user are agreeing to the installation of the spyware.
There is nothing wrong with monitoring yourself.
Remember, this case is about an individual installing monitoring other people with out their consent or knowledge.
In theory, if spyware were installed with out a note in the EULA saying so, and no other "I agree to let you know everything I do and where I go"... then yes, you could get them for wiretapping.
One OS can be based on another with out a single line of code being copied... lets take a look at the dictionary.com definition of based>.
I like #4, "The fundamental principle or underlying concept of a system or theory; a basis"
Linux is quite similar to Unix in terms of its higher level command set (ie what a user types in to a console to say... list the contents of a directory). By building a system which is functionally similar to an existing system, you help to ease the transition from one to the other, you base your new work on old.
Another example of this would be XPde, tell me it isn't in some way based on the Windows XP GUI, I highly doubt a single line of code was copied from Windows XP into XPde.
I am going to have to agree with this last poster. Until you know what FM can do... you do not know why it is worth $800.
After taking a class back in college on using FrameMaker... I fell in love, the power and control it gives you over a document is... amazing. As an example... open up a magazine or catalog sometime... look in detail at the arrangement of the various pictures and text through out the page... now imagine how you might do that in something like Microsoft Word, or some other word processor... Even in Latex perhaps.
Head done spinning?
Give that page to someone who has learned a few tutorials in FrameMaker and they can do it quite quickly for you.
If I could afford it, I would have a copy of FM both at home and work, I would not write anything more complicated then a letter to a friend in my normal word processor... anything else, Memos, memorandums, proposals, etc, all would be done in FM.
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Heaven forbid that someone make a disparaging comment about Linux and make a joke about its stability/reliability/security with regards to windows where Linux looses.
That's the problem though! You assume that because you are relatively safe now that you always will be!
The message you quoted... couldn't something like that be easily disabled/removed?
While running as root/admin may be unsafe on most systems, the reason that the default user of a Windows machine is part of the Administrator group is because it's simple! A user doesn't have to worry about re logging in or changing their account to do their daily functions.
Such could easily be done under Linux as well. Don't you see it as at least possible that a custom distribution may have a user run as root by default and not have such a message as you referred. Suddenly, the protection which you gave to Joe Luser is no more.
And then what happens when enough users are using Linux and companies decide to port software such as Bonzi Buddy to it?
The only reason Linux is a more safe alternative to Windows is that the number of users of Linux is comparatively so low, if that were to change, Linux users could end up no better then Windows users.
Btw... you are the type that is the reason for my sig.
The best part of a plan such as to what you are hinting... is that you can value your own product however you want...
"This, Windows 98 Super Ultra Deluxe Supremely Cool Second Edition is valued at 250 Million Euros, and thus for our settlement... we give you two copies... enjoy"
Course... that assumes the EU agrees to such terms.
I suggest you look back at human history. It is full of cases where new areas were explored/colonized/etc at great expense to the host state(s), during such times where said money could have been put to good use in their home country, instead nations turned their eyes outward to expand and invest. Think of the Romans, their civilization thrived for the most part... until they stopped pushing outward.
If you're against such exploration then I would guess that you too would be against the Apollo Moon Landings, if that is the case, does that mean you are against the technological advances made in large part because of it?
So would I, however we both have Selective Availability to thank for that... if I remember right Clinton ordered the Pentagon to phase out SA... Bush has put such plans on hold indefinitely out of fear that 'terrorists' may use our own GPS system against us.
There is nothing monopolistic about making your product available to as many people/organizations/governments that you can.
Where I come from... we call this competition! You know, where different organizations tailor their products to a given market and duke it out to see who succeeds.
The AMD numbering system has never been directly related to Intel's (officially) but is instead related to the performance of older Athlons... in effect saying "The XP 2700+ is roughly equal in speed to an original Athlon running at 2700 Mhz"
I've got a friend who used to work at Gateway and gave me some good inside info on the company... As much as I've been hoping to see them go belly up and die a horrible horrible death, I'm told that they have a rather sizeable pile of cash to be able to sustain them for several years while at a significant loss.
Nice thing about such a piggy bank is you can use it to buy things you want... however it can mean that your safty net gets a bit smaller.
True, however you've got to admit, from the marketing prospective, there is a great advantage to rebranding... the final product has your name on it! Another major advantage, this time for the customer is tech support from a single house.
Like it or not, most of the people who buy from a company like Gateway are not going to drive down the street to see if the same camera costs a few bucks less, they'll buy it from Gateway or even along with their desktop or laptop and have support from the same company.
A couple of years ago while getting a tour of the Gateway tech support center in Sioux Falls, SD, I was surprised when many of the end calls would end with the tech asking if there was anything else the customer needed like an scanner or digital camera, I was even more surprised that there were quite a few who would want to be transferred to a salesmen to be sold on such a device.
Despite your experience with a single unit, eMachines has truly gotten their act together in recent years.
In the early fall when I was looking for a laptop, I found the eMachines M5310 (I think it is) to offer the best bang for my buck, XP 2400+, 40 gig hd, 802.11g wifi. It's not the smallest or lightest unit to say the least, however it does it's job wonderfully, hell, I even use it for lan parties from time to time! If only Battlefield would take advantage of the wide screen.
I too back in the day came to despise the name of eMachines, but I gave them a shot. When people first see my laptop they say "I didn't know they made laptops" and walk away quite impressed.
One of the best ways to make a profit is to sell a product which many people want. If such a product is of a low quality, people will be less likely to buy in future, thus it is within a companies best interest to create high quality products.
On the contrary, I'd argue that spammers tend to be quite smart using intelligently designed tools. Aside from the volume of spam most of us receive daily, it's still not the easiest to filter at times, not because the spammers are dumb, but because they are smart enough to try to keep up with advanced in spam detection so as to be able to bypass them more easily.
One problem you can end up with is the contract/user agreement its self, I'd have to do some digging, but midco like many does not guarantee quality of service, nor what type of service they permit, as well as the bi%# clause, that they can change the user agreement at any time, for any reason with out notice.
As for your second point... come to south dakota on the midco network... According to the ISP... residential customers no longer need ICMP traffic. Boy I miss being able to ping out!
Step 1: Publish Book Step 2: Release Updated book with enough minor revisions over previsions edition(s) to make them obsolete (ie changing order of practice/homework questions) Step 3: Profit
I had this misfortune of taking Calc I three times in college, amazingly, we used a different book each time and I got very familiar with the above steps. Each time I thought I was smart in keeping the book thinking "Sure enough, next time we'll use the same one". Nope.
What really got me was that the third time through, we used the second edition of the book used in my first time through. Only substantial difference between them other then the covers, was the questions, thus preventing me from being able to use my old book when the teacher would say "Do problems 1-20 from chapter 4"
This game for the Atari 2600 placed you in the part of Custer, who would run across the screen, dodging arrows to rape an Indian woman tied to a cactus. This was the game, over and over and over again. Each level would simply have the arrows moving faster and in different positions
In the majority of those cases, you as the user are agreeing to the installation of the spyware.
There is nothing wrong with monitoring yourself.
Remember, this case is about an individual installing monitoring other people with out their consent or knowledge.
In theory, if spyware were installed with out a note in the EULA saying so, and no other "I agree to let you know everything I do and where I go"... then yes, you could get them for wiretapping.
One OS can be based on another with out a single line of code being copied... lets take a look at the dictionary.com definition of based>.
I like #4, "The fundamental principle or underlying concept of a system or theory; a basis"
Linux is quite similar to Unix in terms of its higher level command set (ie what a user types in to a console to say... list the contents of a directory). By building a system which is functionally similar to an existing system, you help to ease the transition from one to the other, you base your new work on old.
Another example of this would be XPde, tell me it isn't in some way based on the Windows XP GUI, I highly doubt a single line of code was copied from Windows XP into XPde.
I am going to have to agree with this last poster. Until you know what FM can do... you do not know why it is worth $800.
After taking a class back in college on using FrameMaker... I fell in love, the power and control it gives you over a document is... amazing. As an example... open up a magazine or catalog sometime... look in detail at the arrangement of the various pictures and text through out the page... now imagine how you might do that in something like Microsoft Word, or some other word processor... Even in Latex perhaps.
Head done spinning?
Give that page to someone who has learned a few tutorials in FrameMaker and they can do it quite quickly for you.
If I could afford it, I would have a copy of FM both at home and work, I would not write anything more complicated then a letter to a friend in my normal word processor... anything else, Memos, memorandums, proposals, etc, all would be done in FM.
Heaven forbid that someone make a disparaging comment about Linux and make a joke about its stability/reliability/security with regards to windows where Linux looses.
That's the problem though! You assume that because you are relatively safe now that you always will be!
The message you quoted... couldn't something like that be easily disabled/removed?
While running as root/admin may be unsafe on most systems, the reason that the default user of a Windows machine is part of the Administrator group is because it's simple! A user doesn't have to worry about re logging in or changing their account to do their daily functions.
Such could easily be done under Linux as well. Don't you see it as at least possible that a custom distribution may have a user run as root by default and not have such a message as you referred. Suddenly, the protection which you gave to Joe Luser is no more.
And then what happens when enough users are using Linux and companies decide to port software such as Bonzi Buddy to it?
The only reason Linux is a more safe alternative to Windows is that the number of users of Linux is comparatively so low, if that were to change, Linux users could end up no better then Windows users.
Btw... you are the type that is the reason for my sig.
We'll give you 20 copies if your promise not to let the French have any!
The best part of a plan such as to what you are hinting... is that you can value your own product however you want...
"This, Windows 98 Super Ultra Deluxe Supremely Cool Second Edition is valued at 250 Million Euros, and thus for our settlement... we give you two copies... enjoy"
Course... that assumes the EU agrees to such terms.
I suggest you look back at human history. It is full of cases where new areas were explored/colonized/etc at great expense to the host state(s), during such times where said money could have been put to good use in their home country, instead nations turned their eyes outward to expand and invest. Think of the Romans, their civilization thrived for the most part... until they stopped pushing outward.
If you're against such exploration then I would guess that you too would be against the Apollo Moon Landings, if that is the case, does that mean you are against the technological advances made in large part because of it?
How can you be against Tang?
So would I, however we both have Selective Availability to thank for that... if I remember right Clinton ordered the Pentagon to phase out SA... Bush has put such plans on hold indefinitely out of fear that 'terrorists' may use our own GPS system against us.
Curse you! You beat me to saying it.
It's a shame Slashdot has no scruples when it comes to who they DoS.
There is nothing monopolistic about making your product available to as many people/organizations/governments that you can.
Where I come from... we call this competition! You know, where different organizations tailor their products to a given market and duke it out to see who succeeds.
The AMD numbering system has never been directly related to Intel's (officially) but is instead related to the performance of older Athlons... in effect saying "The XP 2700+ is roughly equal in speed to an original Athlon running at 2700 Mhz"
I've got a friend who used to work at Gateway and gave me some good inside info on the company... As much as I've been hoping to see them go belly up and die a horrible horrible death, I'm told that they have a rather sizeable pile of cash to be able to sustain them for several years while at a significant loss.
Nice thing about such a piggy bank is you can use it to buy things you want... however it can mean that your safty net gets a bit smaller.
True, however you've got to admit, from the marketing prospective, there is a great advantage to rebranding... the final product has your name on it! Another major advantage, this time for the customer is tech support from a single house.
Like it or not, most of the people who buy from a company like Gateway are not going to drive down the street to see if the same camera costs a few bucks less, they'll buy it from Gateway or even along with their desktop or laptop and have support from the same company.
A couple of years ago while getting a tour of the Gateway tech support center in Sioux Falls, SD, I was surprised when many of the end calls would end with the tech asking if there was anything else the customer needed like an scanner or digital camera, I was even more surprised that there were quite a few who would want to be transferred to a salesmen to be sold on such a device.
Despite your experience with a single unit, eMachines has truly gotten their act together in recent years.
In the early fall when I was looking for a laptop, I found the eMachines M5310 (I think it is) to offer the best bang for my buck, XP 2400+, 40 gig hd, 802.11g wifi. It's not the smallest or lightest unit to say the least, however it does it's job wonderfully, hell, I even use it for lan parties from time to time! If only Battlefield would take advantage of the wide screen.
I too back in the day came to despise the name of eMachines, but I gave them a shot. When people first see my laptop they say "I didn't know they made laptops" and walk away quite impressed.
But now Gateway... the definition of crap.
what does a 64-bit version of windows for intel have to do with AMD processors?
One of the best ways to make a profit is to sell a product which many people want. If such a product is of a low quality, people will be less likely to buy in future, thus it is within a companies best interest to create high quality products.
My guess... www.kernel.org
On the contrary, I'd argue that spammers tend to be quite smart using intelligently designed tools. Aside from the volume of spam most of us receive daily, it's still not the easiest to filter at times, not because the spammers are dumb, but because they are smart enough to try to keep up with advanced in spam detection so as to be able to bypass them more easily.
One problem you can end up with is the contract/user agreement its self, I'd have to do some digging, but midco like many does not guarantee quality of service, nor what type of service they permit, as well as the bi%# clause, that they can change the user agreement at any time, for any reason with out notice.
As for your second point... come to south dakota on the midco network... According to the ISP... residential customers no longer need ICMP traffic. Boy I miss being able to ping out!
Step 1: Publish Book
Step 2: Release Updated book with enough minor revisions over previsions edition(s) to make them obsolete (ie changing order of practice/homework questions)
Step 3: Profit
I had this misfortune of taking Calc I three times in college, amazingly, we used a different book each time and I got very familiar with the above steps. Each time I thought I was smart in keeping the book thinking "Sure enough, next time we'll use the same one". Nope.
What really got me was that the third time through, we used the second edition of the book used in my first time through. Only substantial difference between them other then the covers, was the questions, thus preventing me from being able to use my old book when the teacher would say "Do problems 1-20 from chapter 4"
Or at least that's the theory
This game for the Atari 2600 placed you in the part of Custer, who would run across the screen, dodging arrows to rape an Indian woman tied to a cactus. This was the game, over and over and over again. Each level would simply have the arrows moving faster and in different positions