I was looking forward to giving this a try earlier this week when I learned it was out... then I found that it is XP only... sadly this will not convince me to upgrade from 2k.
I've been quite happy with this phone since my purchase of it a month ago, I wish it had full Bluetooth support and I was told only yesterday by customer service that an update will be out in 3-4 weeks to enable full Bluetooth support.
Shhh! Don't say that too loud, do you really want to give away the secret to not going to jail or at least being booked?
It would be interesting to see a good # of/. Persons finding this library, parking outside and surfing just to taunt this cop... and upon approach have them argue with him... only to have their hardware seized and them thrown in the county jail for 24 hours.
And yes... I am one who believes that a person should know their rights and not need a police officer to tell them... down with Miranda!
peterz Post subject: About Windows release licensing. Reply with quote Hi All, I'd just like to make a few short points, so I don't have to repeat them to those who have asked.
1) A GPL source code will continue to be available. 2.4.1, 2.4.2... will have a GPL source for *nix on this web page. 2) My particular Windows release is not released under GPL. Since people's source (patch) contributions have not stated any terms, I have decided to release this under Shareware, to protect the extra work I have done to make a good Windows release. However, I'll always respect peoples wishes. If someone has contributed some code and want it removed, you only have to ask (mail me personally), and it will be done. If this happens, I'll just rewrite the code myself, AND release it under GPL for your pleasure. 3) You can download and use 3rd party builds (like SilvereX's). It's also worth noting that alot of the knowledge needed to create SilvereX's build comes directly from me. -- Peter.
graspee Post subject: Reply with quote "Since people's source (patch) contributions have not stated any terms, I have decided to release this under Shareware" It doesn't matter that people's contributions did not state any terms, they were contributing to a GPLd program.
kev^ Post subject: Reply with quote Quote: It's also worth noting that alot of the knowledge needed to create SilvereX's build comes directly from me. So basically you're saying you could kill the "competition" to make your release of the windows port exclusive. That's fine. Nothing's stopping me from keeping these old versions that I got and work. I refuse to get a program which shifted from a GPL-licensed program to Shareware. This shows the sole purpose of the writer changed from a personal project to something to help you financially. I'm sure you work as hard on the linux ports as on the windows. Surely not the same things are demanded but both got your equal effort but you're asking for profit from ONE of them.
Ganf Post subject: Reply with quote Quote: My particular Windows release is not released under GPL Isn't it based on gettext ? gettext is GPL, every software wich depends on gettext *HAVE* to respect GPL. Question is : does your Windows build use gettext ? If you answer "yes" you *can't* release your build on another licence than GPL. When I download source I have a INSTALL.w32 which let me think you *are* depending on GPL code you don't own (eg. gettext). So...
tresni Post subject: Reply with quote Ganf wrote: Quote: My particular Windows release is not released under GPL Isn't it based on gettext ? gettext is GPL, every software wich depends on gettext *HAVE* to respect GPL. Question is : does your Windows build use gettext ? If you answer "yes" you *can't* release your build on another licence than GPL. When I download source I have a INSTALL.w32 which let me think you *are* depending on GPL code you don't own (eg. gettext). So... Um... No.. The only thing he would be "required" to release would be any modifications to gettext, any derivatives work are his sole property and he can license them under whatever terms he wants. Not that I agree with this, but it's his choice.. [edit.. GAH! For some reason I saw this, read it, and thought LGPL through the whole thing. My bad! Okay. If gettext had an LGPL version then my argument is current, otherwise, I am mistaken]
Ganf Post subject: Reply with quote http://directory.fsf.org/localization/gettext.html : gettext is GPL only (not LGPL). [edit 30/08/04 : seems I'm wrong : the global gettext project is GPL but the tiny lib wich is linked is LGPL] Last edited by Ganf on Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:20 am; edited 1 time in total
RonaldHummelink Post subject: Re: About Windows release licensing. Reply with quote peterz wrote: Hi All, I'd just like to make a few short points, so I don't have to repeat them to those who have asked. 1) A GPL source code will continue to be available. 2.4.1, 2.4.2..
Awe crap, when I type things out I normally do it in my word processor and had a few extra notes and what not in it... maybe I shouldn't have done that control-a and a quick paste and submit.
Anyway, here is what I was trying to say... but without having to fight through other stuff.
You don't have to believe it, but it is true.
Of those that I knew who'd had McDonalds as a career and had a lick of sense were not the low level grunts or slightly higher managers but were the salary managers and store managers. I'll grant you it's not the most glamorous job, but it can be a well paid one if you're good at it.
While some local school teachers were being shown how the store worked, one remarked "I'm so glad I went to college" to which a manager replied "I have an MBA." What is a man like he doing working at a McDonalds? Simple, it's an easy job and he was content with it (more so when he got his own store).
Fast food is one of those industries where to hang on at the higher levels you need to be damn good at your job, not just compared to those under them, but compared to any possible person to fill the job.
If you want someone who's got much more than a lick of sense... find someone who owns a McDonalds store as opposed to a store manager who just runs the store. Most of them worked their way up through the system (often starting as an order taker, fry person, etc) and realized that a great deal of money can be made in owning such a place.
it's the normal proceedings and hoops that must be jumped through in case it's an innocent person Update As expected
there are many 'anti piracy' systems out there... the majority of which are only good enough to prevent casual copying by those who don't know how to get past (not unlike a 3 foot high chain link fence)... I could just jump over the fence and crack my legit copy... but I'm an ass like that where I say "why? I paid for it, why can't I play it?"
there is a reason we have professionals in the world, those who know what they are doing... yea, they may cost a few bucks more than doing it yourself, but with a pro you've got a far better chance of
Recently I came across this blog by accident and was surprised to see my break-in story linked to by it, in reading the comments I thought I should respond to a few:
Ogre Lawless and others: No, I do not expect to get my money back from her nor do I care about the change that much.
Loquacious: You said "Up to 10 years in a state prison for $50 bucks in loose change?" They are two separate things. The theft of the money (which I don't care too much about) is punishable by up to 30 days in the county jail, while the 2nd degree burglary (even if nothing was taken) is worth up to 10 years in the state pen. Given that mine are not the only charges she's currently answering for (a couple of other break-ins (house and car)) she is virtually guaranteed some time in the pen.
Yes, it is harsh, and despite her age, she is well known by the local PD and court system. There are many on all sides who look forward to this incorrigible being removed from polite and civilized society for a time. Given her track record, I'd argue it's necessary.
"Do you know this woman? I do! She broke into my house on my birthday, has she broken into yours?"
nakedcodemonkey: The camera I've got is specifically designed as a security camera and is a standalone unit that stores the pictures to an MMC card so there is no connection to my computer. If she'd known the device was a camera and she stole it, I would have had no record of the culprit. I have since made some changes in my home to ensure that that cannot happen in future.
Yes, I am a little paranoid and that is why I have the camera. I had a couple of DVD's go missing back in the late fall and could never figure out where they went. Not thinking it likely that I'd have anything else disappear in future I didn't worry too much, however when I ran across the camera at a very reasonable price I figured it couldn't hurt.
I should also mention that my intention with the web page was never to smear her online or anything of the sort. When I mentioned to some friends that I had my house broken into I ended up repeating the same story many times... so for simplicity I wrote it all up once and said "go here if you want to know"
You don't have to believe it, but it is true.
Of those that I knew who'd had McDonalds as a career and had a lick of sense were not the low level grunts or slightly higher managers but were the salary managers and store managers. I'll grant you it's not the most glamorous job, but it can be a well paid one if you're good at it.
While some local school teachers were being shown how the store worked, one remarked "I'm so glad I went to college" to which a manager replied "I have an MBA." What is a man like he doing working at a McDonalds? Simple, it's an easy job and he was content with it (more so when he got his own store).
Fast food is one of those industries where to hang on at the higher levels you need to be damn good at your job, not just compared to those under them, but compared to any possible person to fill the job.
If you want someone who's got much more than a lick of sense... find someone who owns a McDonalds store as opposed to
If you aim low there's no limit to how long you can last.
Years ago when I worked at a McDonalds (served a total of 4 years) I worked with many who'd been there for 15+ years, and only a couple of them had any sense to em.
I did before getting it. Add to that the fact that I know several people who've had the PSP for their laptops from BB and had em replaced with out question.
My just over year old eMachines laptop is going to be going back to Best Buy again on Monday. It's been over heating a lot lately (same problem as the first time in). During the 1st month they had it they found that the heat sink had partially fallen off of the CPU and if it happened again that they would just replace the unit... well, it seems it's happened again, so on Monday (hopefully I can find my receipt by then) I'll see about trading up.
With some devices, I'll take the gamble on the money for the PSP, in 3 years, I have little doubt that my laptop's battery will go and need to be replaced... and right there is the cost of the plan.
With my iPod, it's got a 4 year PSP on it from BB, and in that time I expect ~2 battery replacements.
With all of the screaming I'm reading here, claiming that the X-Box live system is prior art... seeing prior art predating the patent application by eight years is impressive... more so when that prior art is from the applying company.
It will be interesting to see what they do with this patent.
Isn't that what a configure script does? To check to see if your system as is supports the building of the associated package?
I could be wrong, but this was my impression as I've fought with configure many times to install A and finding I need B version 3.2.1. Although the real fun begins when B version 3.2.1 tells me I need C 2.9! Who knows how far back it may go?
True in part... but with many different distro's and many different outlooks comes a difficulty if you are The Most Exalted Ned Limpopo, Prime Minister of Brainania and trying to find a distro that recognizes the in legitimacy of your country.
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Shhh, you're going to spoil the fun a friend of mine has been having.
When he shipped out earlier this year, he made sure to bring is entire war driving setup including cantenna... although when we do see him on it's always been from the local and legitimate network connection from where he is stationed.
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Because many of them signed up for the 'One weekend a month and two weeks a year" National Guard and may have overlooked or ignored the fine print saying "in case of military action, you may be used... or more likely didn't think it likely.
None the less, while it's fine to say why don't they come home... I suggest you take that up with the leaders in Washington who call the shots regarding such things.
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Want to avoid stress while on the job?
Just don't care!
Yea... that deadline is coming quick, but who cares? Which is more important? Some product getting out the door or your sanity and full head of hair?
Nay, the windows version is a clean room implementation from the original standard instead of duplicated code.
I was looking forward to giving this a try earlier this week when I learned it was out... then I found that it is XP only... sadly this will not convince me to upgrade from 2k.
I have... unfortunately I still lack the USB driver necessary for any app to be able to hit my phone.
It's out... well, not entirely officially.
Try the Qualcomm Product Support Toolkit (PST). In order to use it you'll need a serial cable for your phone (often available on eBay).
Unfortunately I've only got a USB cable for my phone and have been unable to find drivers for it... so far.
I've been quite happy with this phone since my purchase of it a month ago, I wish it had full Bluetooth support and I was told only yesterday by customer service that an update will be out in 3-4 weeks to enable full Bluetooth support.
Syncing of phonebook here I come!
Shhh! Don't say that too loud, do you really want to give away the secret to not going to jail or at least being booked?
/. Persons finding this library, parking outside and surfing just to taunt this cop... and upon approach have them argue with him... only to have their hardware seized and them thrown in the county jail for 24 hours.
It would be interesting to see a good # of
And yes... I am one who believes that a person should know their rights and not need a police officer to tell them... down with Miranda!
peterz
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... Um... No.. The only thing he would be "required" to release would be any modifications to gettext, any derivatives work are his sole property and he can license them under whatever terms he wants. Not that I agree with this, but it's his choice.. [edit.. GAH! For some reason I saw this, read it, and thought LGPL through the whole thing. My bad! Okay. If gettext had an LGPL version then my argument is current, otherwise, I am mistaken]
Post subject: About Windows release licensing. Reply with quote Hi All, I'd just like to make a few short points, so I don't have to repeat them to those who have asked.
1) A GPL source code will continue to be available. 2.4.1, 2.4.2... will have a GPL source for *nix on this web page.
2) My particular Windows release is not released under GPL. Since people's source (patch) contributions have not stated any terms, I have decided to release this under Shareware, to protect the extra work I have done to make a good Windows release. However, I'll always respect peoples wishes. If someone has contributed some code and want it removed, you only have to ask (mail me personally), and it will be done. If this happens, I'll just rewrite the code myself, AND release it under GPL for your pleasure.
3) You can download and use 3rd party builds (like SilvereX's). It's also worth noting that alot of the knowledge needed to create SilvereX's build comes directly from me.
-- Peter.
graspee
Post subject: Reply with quote "Since people's source (patch) contributions have not stated any terms, I have decided to release this under Shareware"
It doesn't matter that people's contributions did not state any terms, they were contributing to a GPLd program.
kev^
Post subject: Reply with quote Quote: It's also worth noting that alot of the knowledge needed to create SilvereX's build comes directly from me. So basically you're saying you could kill the "competition" to make your release of the windows port exclusive. That's fine. Nothing's stopping me from keeping these old versions that I got and work. I refuse to get a program which shifted from a GPL-licensed program to Shareware. This shows the sole purpose of the writer changed from a personal project to something to help you financially. I'm sure you work as hard on the linux ports as on the windows. Surely not the same things are demanded but both got your equal effort but you're asking for profit from ONE of them.
Ganf
Post subject: Reply with quote Quote: My particular Windows release is not released under GPL Isn't it based on gettext ? gettext is GPL, every software wich depends on gettext *HAVE* to respect GPL. Question is : does your Windows build use gettext ? If you answer "yes" you *can't* release your build on another licence than GPL. When I download source I have a INSTALL.w32 which let me think you *are* depending on GPL code you don't own (eg. gettext). So
tresni
Post subject: Reply with quote Ganf wrote: Quote: My particular Windows release is not released under GPL Isn't it based on gettext ? gettext is GPL, every software wich depends on gettext *HAVE* to respect GPL. Question is : does your Windows build use gettext ? If you answer "yes" you *can't* release your build on another licence than GPL. When I download source I have a INSTALL.w32 which let me think you *are* depending on GPL code you don't own (eg. gettext). So
Ganf
Post subject: Reply with quote http://directory.fsf.org/localization/gettext.html : gettext is GPL only (not LGPL). [edit 30/08/04 : seems I'm wrong : the global gettext project is GPL but the tiny lib wich is linked is LGPL] Last edited by Ganf on Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:20 am; edited 1 time in total
RonaldHummelink
Post subject: Re: About Windows release licensing. Reply with quote peterz wrote: Hi All, I'd just like to make a few short points, so I don't have to repeat them to those who have asked. 1) A GPL source code will continue to be available. 2.4.1, 2.4.2..
I don't know... a good cantenna might just give the evil doers access even with such a great distance.
I think you missed #2...
2. Remove the network card from your computer.
And at no point do you add it again.
Awe crap, when I type things out I normally do it in my word processor and had a few extra notes and what not in it... maybe I shouldn't have done that control-a and a quick paste and submit.
Anyway, here is what I was trying to say... but without having to fight through other stuff.
You don't have to believe it, but it is true.
Of those that I knew who'd had McDonalds as a career and had a lick of sense were not the low level grunts or slightly higher managers but were the salary managers and store managers. I'll grant you it's not the most glamorous job, but it can be a well paid one if you're good at it.
While some local school teachers were being shown how the store worked, one remarked "I'm so glad I went to college" to which a manager replied "I have an MBA." What is a man like he doing working at a McDonalds? Simple, it's an easy job and he was content with it (more so when he got his own store).
Fast food is one of those industries where to hang on at the higher levels you need to be damn good at your job, not just compared to those under them, but compared to any possible person to fill the job.
If you want someone who's got much more than a lick of sense... find someone who owns a McDonalds store as opposed to a store manager who just runs the store. Most of them worked their way up through the system (often starting as an order taker, fry person, etc) and realized that a great deal of money can be made in owning such a place.
2:26:18 /5% :35 60%
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asked for preliminary hearing: 23rd 10am
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it's the normal proceedings and hoops that must be jumped through in case it's an innocent person
Update
As expected
there are many 'anti piracy' systems out there... the majority of which are only good enough to prevent casual copying by those who don't know how to get past (not unlike a 3 foot high chain link fence)... I could just jump over the fence and crack my legit copy... but I'm an ass like that where I say "why? I paid for it, why can't I play it?"
there is a reason we have professionals in the world, those who know what they are doing... yea, they may cost a few bucks more than doing it yourself, but with a pro you've got a far better chance of
Recently I came across this blog by accident and was surprised to see my break-in story linked to by it, in reading the comments I thought I should respond to a few:
Ogre Lawless and others: No, I do not expect to get my money back from her nor do I care about the change that much.
Loquacious: You said "Up to 10 years in a state prison for $50 bucks in loose change?" They are two separate things. The theft of the money (which I don't care too much about) is punishable by up to 30 days in the county jail, while the 2nd degree burglary (even if nothing was taken) is worth up to 10 years in the state pen. Given that mine are not the only charges she's currently answering for (a couple of other break-ins (house and car)) she is virtually guaranteed some time in the pen.
Yes, it is harsh, and despite her age, she is well known by the local PD and court system. There are many on all sides who look forward to this incorrigible being removed from polite and civilized society for a time. Given her track record, I'd argue it's necessary.
"Do you know this woman? I do! She broke into my house on my birthday, has she broken into yours?"
nakedcodemonkey: The camera I've got is specifically designed as a security camera and is a standalone unit that stores the pictures to an MMC card so there is no connection to my computer. If she'd known the device was a camera and she stole it, I would have had no record of the culprit. I have since made some changes in my home to ensure that that cannot happen in future.
Yes, I am a little paranoid and that is why I have the camera. I had a couple of DVD's go missing back in the late fall and could never figure out where they went. Not thinking it likely that I'd have anything else disappear in future I didn't worry too much, however when I ran across the camera at a very reasonable price I figured it couldn't hurt.
I should also mention that my intention with the web page was never to smear her online or anything of the sort. When I mentioned to some friends that I had my house broken into I ended up repeating the same story many times... so for simplicity I wrote it all up once and said "go here if you want to know"
You don't have to believe it, but it is true.
Of those that I knew who'd had McDonalds as a career and had a lick of sense were not the low level grunts or slightly higher managers but were the salary managers and store managers. I'll grant you it's not the most glamorous job, but it can be a well paid one if you're good at it.
While some local school teachers were being shown how the store worked, one remarked "I'm so glad I went to college" to which a manager replied "I have an MBA." What is a man like he doing working at a McDonalds? Simple, it's an easy job and he was content with it (more so when he got his own store).
Fast food is one of those industries where to hang on at the higher levels you need to be damn good at your job, not just compared to those under them, but compared to any possible person to fill the job.
If you want someone who's got much more than a lick of sense... find someone who owns a McDonalds store as opposed to
If you aim low there's no limit to how long you can last.
Years ago when I worked at a McDonalds (served a total of 4 years) I worked with many who'd been there for 15+ years, and only a couple of them had any sense to em.
First up, you got the spelling right, it is Grayza.
Next up, the critical Scarrans in the final episodes were War Minister Ahkna, and Emperor Staleek and captain Jenek (who was nuked).
Or you could be less than legal and pull the series from a known bit torrent site whose name will not be given here.
I did before getting it. Add to that the fact that I know several people who've had the PSP for their laptops from BB and had em replaced with out question.
My just over year old eMachines laptop is going to be going back to Best Buy again on Monday. It's been over heating a lot lately (same problem as the first time in). During the 1st month they had it they found that the heat sink had partially fallen off of the CPU and if it happened again that they would just replace the unit... well, it seems it's happened again, so on Monday (hopefully I can find my receipt by then) I'll see about trading up.
With some devices, I'll take the gamble on the money for the PSP, in 3 years, I have little doubt that my laptop's battery will go and need to be replaced... and right there is the cost of the plan.
With my iPod, it's got a 4 year PSP on it from BB, and in that time I expect ~2 battery replacements.
Money well invested in this case I'd say.
My hat goes off to you sir!
With all of the screaming I'm reading here, claiming that the X-Box live system is prior art... seeing prior art predating the patent application by eight years is impressive... more so when that prior art is from the applying company.
It will be interesting to see what they do with this patent.
And that is ironic how?
Do you even know the meaning of the word?
Isn't that what a configure script does? To check to see if your system as is supports the building of the associated package?
I could be wrong, but this was my impression as I've fought with configure many times to install A and finding I need B version 3.2.1. Although the real fun begins when B version 3.2.1 tells me I need C 2.9! Who knows how far back it may go?
True in part... but with many different distro's and many different outlooks comes a difficulty if you are The Most Exalted Ned Limpopo, Prime Minister of Brainania and trying to find a distro that recognizes the in legitimacy of your country.
Shhh, you're going to spoil the fun a friend of mine has been having.
When he shipped out earlier this year, he made sure to bring is entire war driving setup including cantenna... although when we do see him on it's always been from the local and legitimate network connection from where he is stationed.
Because many of them signed up for the 'One weekend a month and two weeks a year" National Guard and may have overlooked or ignored the fine print saying "in case of military action, you may be used... or more likely didn't think it likely.
None the less, while it's fine to say why don't they come home... I suggest you take that up with the leaders in Washington who call the shots regarding such things.
Space combat game with realistic physics?
See Independence War and Independence War 2
And Linus is going to *clap* pump them up?