Re:Credit Card system most braindead thing ever
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Sorry but I don't buy it. I don't understand why the system hasn't collapsed yet.
Because the credit card issuers make a butt-ton of money. Credit card merchant fees act as a 3-7% tax on every retail transaction (including for those who pay cash--the fees are already reflected in the prices), in addition to charging rates that exceed 20% in some cases to those carrying balances.
What's happened here is that the credit card companies are aware of what it would take to secure the system (e.g. SET), and have decided that it's cheaper to write off the fraud.
Well, you're half right. You did make someone look like a dumbass. Only it wasn't me. Your puerile personal attacks make your admonition to "be ready to argue" ring quite hollow indeed. Have a nice life.
Studied game theory at all? That only works for me if everyone else does it. Otherwise, it's like wearing a big "INVESTIGATE ME" sign. Better to blend in with all the other traffic, and hope they don't have a reason to look. Unfortunately, if that's the logic most people use, we're all screwed.
If you mean 99% of the time you can plug in your PeeCee or consumer market, Wal-Mart hardware and have it work with no problem on Win2K, I'd agree with you. How many platforms, other than x86/Itanium, does Windows 2000 currently support? Linux has 68xxx, ARM, PPC, MIPS . . .
No. No matter how you look at it. It is stealing whether software or material. You can deny it up and down but it is still stealing whenyou get to the bottom of it.
Bzzt. Thanks for playing A necessary component of stealing is that the person having been "stolen" from must be deprived of the item. Unless one goes and takes the only copy of the source code from the author, he hasn't "stolen." Calling copyright infringement stealing is a propaganda device from the real thieves, the "intellectual property" cartel, that rob future generations of our heritage.
So it's OK for Microsoft to impose conditions after the point of sale, so long as they claim you're anonymous in the reg^H^H^Hactivation process? (If you activate via the net, your IP is known--there is no way around this. If you activate by phone, ANI logs your number for billing. If you use a pay phone, you're too paranoid to be using any version of Windows.)
I find it quite admirable that the team refused to support XP. If there are knowledgeable enough people who want XP, they can port and recomplie. If they're arent, then I guess that tells us something.
I would, however, support an XP port if I could be assured it would cost Vivendi (DMCA wielding scum that they are) more than it would gain Microsoft.
Yep. And you're not forced to have running water, gas, or electricity either. And computing is becoming a utility that, while not as necessary for human life as those, will be necessary for being part of anything other than the expanding, functionally illiterate underclass.
Either you're dense or trolling. Hard to tell which. The government, in the scenario of mandatory DRM in every PC, would be forcing you to "quarter" software and hardware used as an agent of same. And the third amendment doesn't require a war to be in effect.
Blizzard sees it necessary for keeping their business to have that control exclusive to them, and you may not like it, or agree with it,
I bought it. It's mine. I'll play it on any goddamned server I want. Of course, I won't be buying any more, so I guess that's really a moot point. Death to Blizzard!
I might be willing to pay a little extra to be able to read the book I already paid for from ORA's servers (without the "swapping" restrictions, etc.), but I'm not going to pay a fee that assumes I don't own a paper copy. And if I wanted to borrow a book, I'd just go to a library and do it for free (ILLing it if my library doesn't have it). Guess it's just a different mentality, but I'd much rather lug the paper versions than pay twice.
in the second paragraph. I guess the lawsuit from Pillsbury will be rolling in any minute now.
I also found this amusing (emphasis mine):
eBay confirms that it was dazzled by IBM's expertise with the
open-standard Java programming language . ..
While Java could be called "open," compared with, say, the Windows API, I don't believe Sun has turned control over the language specification to a standards body.
Please. Work for you. That's rich. Get back to us when you get your GED and pass a first semester remedial English course, or you succeed in business as a roofing contractor or something (honest work, good money, dangerous environment).
You'll be able to go to web pages hosted by Compuserve using convenient, mnemonic names. For example, you'd type "GO CIS-175" in the address bar to change your password. For the LDOS Forum, you'd type "GO LDOS". For Weather, you'd type "GO WEATHER".
As an enhancement, there'll be a Java applet with a "!" prompt. For an additional fee, you can type "GO PRO" in the address bar. Doing so will launch a PDP-10 emulator with a full suite of development tools, along with that user-friendly editor, TECO.
Hey, I'm as much of a copyright infringer as the next guy, but if you're going to circumvent the upgrade check, you're running an illegal copy anyway, so why not just keep your money? Also, won't Adobe refuse to register an upgrade that it can't tie to a prior sale?
Face it - IM traffic sent/received at work will end up being logged as a matter of course. It has to if companies want to keep themselves out of a legal quagmire.
This is a double edged sword--if the company keeps all those logs, now they have to produce them upon subpoena. It would be less of a quagmire to be able to truthfully say they don't keep logs to begin with.
Do not assume I am a management hating l33t h4x0r. I am a professional. I treat others that way and expect to be treated that way.
I'm not disputing that you're a professional, but your former reference to "two-bit middle managers" and that last dig about making too much to "suffer fools lightly" seem to contradict your assertion that you're not a "management hating l33t h4x0r." Unless you're saying you're not a l33t h4x0r:). Really, if you feel that way, it's hard to hide it behind a courteous, professional, veneer. Sometimes, that just makes it more obvious.
You also get the people who'll take a mile when given an inch, and ruin it for everybody.
Some common ground. About the only policing I care to do is reminding people to use a bit of discretion in their personal use. It's one thing to engage in "incidental personal use" (actually defined and permissible where I work). It's quite another to flagrantly abuse it in front of senior managers, or worse, customers.
Your other point about having obtained funding from the Hotmail incident shows some hope--maybe managers distant from the problem (a nice way of saying "clueless") won't "invest" in one of F-secure's "high productivity, total network lockdown" products without an incident that will likely be a long time coming to prompt it.
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Because the credit card issuers make a butt-ton of money. Credit card merchant fees act as a 3-7% tax on every retail transaction (including for those who pay cash--the fees are already reflected in the prices), in addition to charging rates that exceed 20% in some cases to those carrying balances.
What's happened here is that the credit card companies are aware of what it would take to secure the system (e.g. SET), and have decided that it's cheaper to write off the fraud.
Wait until the secret virus development divisions of McAfee and Symantec are exposed.
Nice SAT reference!
Well, you're half right. You did make someone look like a dumbass. Only it wasn't me. Your puerile personal attacks make your admonition to "be ready to argue" ring quite hollow indeed. Have a nice life.
Studied game theory at all? That only works for me if everyone else does it. Otherwise, it's like wearing a big "INVESTIGATE ME" sign. Better to blend in with all the other traffic, and hope they don't have a reason to look. Unfortunately, if that's the logic most people use, we're all screwed.
If you mean 99% of the time you can plug in your PeeCee or consumer market, Wal-Mart hardware and have it work with no problem on Win2K, I'd agree with you. How many platforms, other than x86/Itanium, does Windows 2000 currently support? Linux has 68xxx, ARM, PPC, MIPS . . .
Uh, yeah, thanks. Nice chatting with you, troll.
Bzzt. Thanks for playing A necessary component of stealing is that the person having been "stolen" from must be deprived of the item. Unless one goes and takes the only copy of the source code from the author, he hasn't "stolen." Calling copyright infringement stealing is a propaganda device from the real thieves, the "intellectual property" cartel, that rob future generations of our heritage.
I find it quite admirable that the team refused to support XP. If there are knowledgeable enough people who want XP, they can port and recomplie. If they're arent, then I guess that tells us something.
I would, however, support an XP port if I could be assured it would cost Vivendi (DMCA wielding scum that they are) more than it would gain Microsoft.
Behind every great fortune there is a crime.
--Balzac
True, but I'll stick with the existing UPC codes and my declawed CueCat (thanks, digitalcovergence, and may you rot in hell), thank you very much.
Yep. And you're not forced to have running water, gas, or electricity either. And computing is becoming a utility that, while not as necessary for human life as those, will be necessary for being part of anything other than the expanding, functionally illiterate underclass.
Either you're dense or trolling. Hard to tell which. The government, in the scenario of mandatory DRM in every PC, would be forcing you to "quarter" software and hardware used as an agent of same. And the third amendment doesn't require a war to be in effect.
I bought it. It's mine. I'll play it on any goddamned server I want. Of course, I won't be buying any more, so I guess that's really a moot point. Death to Blizzard!
I might be willing to pay a little extra to be able to read the book I already paid for from ORA's servers (without the "swapping" restrictions, etc.), but I'm not going to pay a fee that assumes I don't own a paper copy. And if I wanted to borrow a book, I'd just go to a library and do it for free (ILLing it if my library doesn't have it). Guess it's just a different mentality, but I'd much rather lug the paper versions than pay twice.
So an independent organization can publish a Java language specification without Sun's blessing? Thanks for edifying me.
I also found this amusing (emphasis mine):
While Java could be called "open," compared with, say, the Windows API, I don't believe Sun has turned control over the language specification to a standards body.
Please. Work for you. That's rich. Get back to us when you get your GED and pass a first semester remedial English course, or you succeed in business as a roofing contractor or something (honest work, good money, dangerous environment).
I'm sure that'll be quite a consolation to the suspect as he's being tortured by agents of the Crown.
As an enhancement, there'll be a Java applet with a "!" prompt. For an additional fee, you can type "GO PRO" in the address bar. Doing so will launch a PDP-10 emulator with a full suite of development tools, along with that user-friendly editor, TECO.
Hey, I'm as much of a copyright infringer as the next guy, but if you're going to circumvent the upgrade check, you're running an illegal copy anyway, so why not just keep your money? Also, won't Adobe refuse to register an upgrade that it can't tie to a prior sale?
This is a double edged sword--if the company keeps all those logs, now they have to produce them upon subpoena. It would be less of a quagmire to be able to truthfully say they don't keep logs to begin with.
The link is dead. Don't tease me like that!
Darn, the domain's not even registered.
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THE DOMAIN'S NOT REGISTERED?! (http://cheepdomains.com) THELMA, GET ME THE VISA CARD!
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"We're in the money, we're in the money . . ."
I'm not disputing that you're a professional, but your former reference to "two-bit middle managers" and that last dig about making too much to "suffer fools lightly" seem to contradict your assertion that you're not a "management hating l33t h4x0r." Unless you're saying you're not a l33t h4x0r :). Really, if you feel that way, it's hard to hide it behind a courteous, professional, veneer. Sometimes, that just makes it more obvious.
Some common ground. About the only policing I care to do is reminding people to use a bit of discretion in their personal use. It's one thing to engage in "incidental personal use" (actually defined and permissible where I work). It's quite another to flagrantly abuse it in front of senior managers, or worse, customers.
Your other point about having obtained funding from the Hotmail incident shows some hope--maybe managers distant from the problem (a nice way of saying "clueless") won't "invest" in one of F-secure's "high productivity, total network lockdown" products without an incident that will likely be a long time coming to prompt it.