If so, then I think it's a pretty good investment.:)
So much for the "bailing out a failing business, let the market sort it out" mindset. If Mandrake hadn't appealed to the public, they would not have had the $ to come up with this.:)
Considering the costs of promoting a new group, getting them recorded, producing the CDs and getting distribution, the group almost certainly wouldn't be selling ANY albums or getting ANY money if they weren't working with a record label -- because nobody would have heard of them and no CDs would exist.
You mean the way that nobody heard of Black Flag, The Dead Kennedys and Ani Difranco; and the way that no CDs exist for them?
Also, I believe you missed the nuance here that we're talking downloads, and not cds.
If you have an independent web site, the site would take care of promotion, and the band would take care of producing music [and how readily available is home studio equipment these days?]
So, in an itunes-like download enviroment, the need for **AA is...what, exactly? Production and promotion certainly seem to be able to be handled perfectly fine without them...
Here's his first post, reformatted for easier reading after doing a ^U on this link
Grab your asbestos panties. I'm about to flame the hell out of your jelly belly, Dr. Schole's, pencil protector wearing, ain't had pussy since pussy had you, slashdot reading, wannabe flaming asses.
Let me ask you this:
If I was as poor as this fella makes me out to be, how in the hell can we afford car payments, insurance, Cable TV, High speed internet, entertainment (not AO, ya goobs)
Easy.....the guy lied. Um, and here I though slashdot readers were supposed to be smart?
Wow...I don't get out much, yet somehow I find time to go dancing every weekend, go to trips out of town, etc.
"Shy"....Come to Madison or log into AO and see how "shy" I am.
Let's break it on down for the less estute among us:
Rent: $645/mo Cable: $60/mo Internet: $50/mo car: $299/mo Insurance: $shit, I forgot. I think it's 1-200 or something. Yeah, I got speeding tickets, bite me. Food: roughly 300/mo (I like my steaks) AO: $12.95/mo Clothes: I buy alot of clothes, so sue me? roughly $500 a month. Other entertainment: meh, 5-800 a month or so.
Last year I cleared just under $100k after expenses. No, I'm not poor at all. in fact OMFGLOLROOFLESMAYO. Do the numbers. I make 50-100 per hour times 20-40 billable hours per week. That equals: a buttload more than half you bitches pull in:p
If the walls were "crashing down around me" and I was so poor, how the hell was I able to afford a $50 game and $200 in clothes that day?
Easy. The guy lied.
I mean, there's so much about the article that doesn't make sense. Yes, I'm oh so poor, let me lean back in my leather chair and play AO on my brand new 21" monitor.
Here's what I see you people writing:
"OMG this guy is such a loser, he plays MMORPGS and has no life, blah blah blah how pathetic. I think I'm going to spend the next 26 consecutive hours blasting him on the slashdot forums.
the very fact alone that you bother to read the article and then post flames about it makes you look far more pathetic than even that article could make you look.
You call those flames? Panty waists. Amateur flamers. Get some meat behind some of these weak ass jabs and maybe you'll be blessed enough to have Thedeacon own your Linux lubbin asses individually.
Um guys? YOU READ SLASHDOT. You read slashdot and troll the forums for all day. Hey, it's reality calling. JOO ARE A DORK.
I play for 40 hours a week. Heh, to be honest, when you consider how much TV (and forum trolling) most americans do, that number is not too horrible.
Of course that number is grossly exaggerated (I work for 9 hours a day, make dinner, watch a movie with my wife, I write, work out, I do stand up comedy, I read, etc, so it's a physical impossibility that I play that many hours, unless I've gained the magical ability to increase the length of the day by 6 hours or something).
Wow, the Linux freaks on this boards sure are in a place to talk. Lessee, "Slashdot: News for nerds". Um, "nerds". And you guys are proud of this. What does that say about you?
I think the flamers on this thread are more pissed that I play games and still get the pussy, while they're spanking it to midget porn.
People, get your collective heads out of your asses and don't be so naive......The article was a lie. Seth Schiesel (aka Amis ingame) harbored a grudge over an AO article I picked apart nearly a year back. His writing has the flow of an 8th grade essay and structure to match. You know the Times has to be hurting for talent and news when they make a post about a video game.
Really people, log off your super admin whatever Linux geek shit for a sec and think about it. Take a good hard look at your own hobbies and think about it again. Let's see: you spend
As I write this, the first topic on the page is "I have been warned for abuse over 'reasonable' limits" where someone is complaining about unfairly getting hit with a warning letter stating that they have downloaded "too much" [too much from an unlimited d/l pool? hmmm...]
Also, this post would lead me to believe that using another d/l manager is specifically against the TOS and can get you canned.
I will have to concede the "counted against" idea since I cannot find the post that gave me that impression...but I hope I have proven that I have done a fair amount of research, and I am not trolling. [on an ad-hominem note - since you brougth out the T-word - I do have to wonder if you are not astro-turfing]
We are low enough. The problem is--whether there are countries with worse corruption than ours or not--the problem[s] with our government are unfixable, short of tearing the whole thing down and starting over from scratch.
I don't feel that KaZaA and legit music services like Emusic/Itunes music store compete. Anyone who *cares* about the music, the ID3 tag labeling, and the quality will find that even the 'free' KazaA service is less then worthless. Ever since signing up with Emusic months ago, I haven't gone back to KaZaA again. I never will. The small record labels get a bit of my money, and I get a properly labeled, complete, VBA encoded mp3; and it's all you can eat for $15 a month.
Actually, that's not exactly true. They reserve the right to cut you off if you download what they consider to be "too many" downloads. But they don't tell you exactly how many that is.
People who d/l music off of KaZaA probably do so because they can, and because it's 'free', not because it's the better option. They want something for free, and don't care if it's crap. But those that care about the music/software they want will shell out money for it, simply because YOU GET WHAT YOU PAIR FOR!
I have several copies of Linux/FreeBSD. Didn't pay for most of them. Yet they are high quality OS's, with more Free [beer||speech] software than I can shake a stick at. So there, your argument doesn't hold water...
With Emusic; a cursory glance at their message board tells me that they force the use of a download manager which (from what I read) does not work, and many people are ending up with incomplete downloads being counted against them, and also you are not downloading mp3s, but some odd proprietary format called 'emp'[?]......so, if all of that is true (and I'm not forking my money out to test the waters), then I would say I'm getting a LOT LESS than "what I pay for".
Yep...but, do you seriously think you'll have the option to turn it off in the future?
I'm less concerned with that, than I am with wether or not I'll be able to install winamp in the future. [should the need for a non-drm-enabled player arise.]
What are you talking about? I have media player 9 and I'm able to turn off DRM just fine.
In fact, it's the same place in both 8 and nine, AFAIK.
Are you trolling, or just objecting to DRM being there at all? If it's the latter, you have to realise that having it there, and able to be turned off is a quite reasonable compromise to both the users, and to the content providers [who otherwise wouldn't share their content for -reasonable- fear of pirating.]
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you know enough to either {rm /bin/sh && ln -s `which ash` /bin/sh} or write conditional statements in your scripts that isn't an option...
Consistent? /bin/sh is /bin/sh wether in NetBSD, OS X or GNU.
I'd consider xmms second only to win amp, dunno what your problem is...
easy OS install? How often do you have to install your os?
clustering research that improves multiplayer gaming well into the next decade? In my mind, that's priceless...
If so, then I think it's a pretty good investment. :)
:)
So much for the "bailing out a failing business, let the market sort it out" mindset. If Mandrake hadn't appealed to the public, they would not have had the $ to come up with this.
You mean the way that nobody heard of Black Flag, The Dead Kennedys and Ani Difranco; and the way that no CDs exist for them?
Also, I believe you missed the nuance here that we're talking downloads, and not cds.
If you have an independent web site, the site would take care of promotion, and the band would take care of producing music [and how readily available is home studio equipment these days?]
So, in an itunes-like download enviroment, the need for **AA is...what, exactly? Production and promotion certainly seem to be able to be handled perfectly fine without them...
They're getting just under half of what the labels are getting.
IMHO, "measly" would if they got three cents and the labels got fifty seven cents.
Of course, if they went independent, they'd get 60 [assuming the sites still charged 40 cents].
ftp is p2pr nel.org
eh?
Does that mean that the FBI will be monitoring
ftp://ftp.slackware.com
ftp://ftp.ke
ftp://ftp.netbsd.org
ftp://ftp.gnu.org
As far as 'pirating' goes: read here. They're an underground band who actively encourage p2p sharing of their mp3s. If I was in touch w/ any kind of modern music, I'm sure I could find more.
You have to look beyond what the corporate media tells you, instead of buying it lock, stock and barrel.
Looky here.
That's the archive.org mirror of that page, circa oct, 2002. Notice that the myutahsearch link is there [though the image link is broken.]
...record companies think about file sharing?
Um, Not likely.
Next question?
[attn mods: note the winky; thanks]
So, that brings up an obvious question:
Is the ancient software found at
http://www.tuhs.org/archive_sites.html legal?
What is the probability that SCO will rescind the public availability of it?
I can't believe I FINALLY got FIRST POST!
is so bad, you can't give it away!!
Then how am I going to use my OpenServer Boxen to crack open the computers of those pesky boys who make fun of my using SCO?
Wanker, indeed...
It depends on how you define 'research'. My research consisted of reading their online message forums [specifically, the emusic general section I've linked to].
As I write this, the first topic on the page is "I have been warned for abuse over 'reasonable' limits" where someone is complaining about unfairly getting hit with a warning letter stating that they have downloaded "too much" [too much from an unlimited d/l pool? hmmm...]
Also, this post would lead me to believe that using another d/l manager is specifically against the TOS and can get you canned.
I will have to concede the "counted against" idea since I cannot find the post that gave me that impression...but I hope I have proven that I have done a fair amount of research, and I am not trolling. [on an ad-hominem note - since you brougth out the T-word - I do have to wonder if you are not astro-turfing]
We are low enough. The problem is--whether there are countries with worse corruption than ours or not--the problem[s] with our government are unfixable, short of tearing the whole thing down and starting over from scratch.
And that just ain't gonna happen.
Actually, that's not exactly true. They reserve the right to cut you off if you download what they consider to be "too many" downloads. But they don't tell you exactly how many that is.
I have several copies of Linux/FreeBSD. Didn't pay for most of them. Yet they are high quality OS's, with more Free [beer||speech] software than I can shake a stick at. So there, your argument doesn't hold water...
With Emusic; a cursory glance at their message board tells me that they force the use of a download manager which (from what I read) does not work, and many people are ending up with incomplete downloads being counted against them, and also you are not downloading mp3s, but some odd proprietary format called 'emp'[?]...
When I asked, he said [paraphrasing] "what the hell? there's no such word as 'debockle'! Stop wasting my time"
And in case anyone is curious; DMR is NOT interested in any issues of "the watchtower"
Wow. Do they still have the web-browser-on-a-bootfloppy offer?
from 100megsfree4.com sites, that *might* have something to do with why people treat you less-than-seriously.
;)
Just a thought.
and it's the only STUFF THAT MATTERS!
O, btw, FUCK $C0!!
Next on slashdot: The sun is fuckin' HOT
I'm less concerned with that, than I am with wether or not I'll be able to install winamp in the future. [should the need for a non-drm-enabled player arise.]
What are you talking about? I have media player 9 and I'm able to turn off DRM just fine.
In fact, it's the same place in both 8 and nine, AFAIK.
Are you trolling, or just objecting to DRM being there at all? If it's the latter, you have to realise that having it there, and able to be turned off is a quite reasonable compromise to both the users, and to the content providers [who otherwise wouldn't share their content for -reasonable- fear of pirating.]