Wow. I've never known there were so many parrots on Slashdot. You may say what you please about Windows - the operating system blows, without question. I can't believe people are stupid enough to think OOo is somehow 'better' than MSO because it's open source or whatever. There's a reason MSO dominates the office suite industry, and it ain't because of monopoly, or proprietary file formats, or whatever excuse Slashdotters are giving at the moment. At the end of the day, OOo is a toy compared to MSO.
Well, Anonymous (may I call you Anonymous?), the unfortunate thing is that it is because of monopoly and proprietary file formats. Go run and do some reading on 'network effects'.
Because they can port their MMORPG games to the PS3 and re-use their existing server farms, right along their PC clients. On the 360, they'd be required to use XBox Live for all the multiplayer gaming.
The first and more important fact is that the hardware is powerful enough on both the 360 and the PS3 that you can get more payback for good artistic direction and heavy technical investment than ever before. The 360 and the PS3 will both respond very nicely to extravagantly expensive development budgets, and the skill of the developers and artists working on the average game will probably make much more difference in the quality of the results than any differences between the hardware will.
That said, and while the 360's graphics chip is probably superior to the PS3's, the PS3 was designed to have the Cell and RSX working together in a very close fashion. Killzone 2 is being developed with a deferred renderer, in which the Cell can overlay lighting calculations on top of the rendered polygons, rather than having all of that be always done with the RSX. Lair is using the Cell to do dynamic winnowing down of the in-game geometry to present only the essential data to RSX, while continuing to animate everything with high fidelity. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune is using Cell to do very ambitious dynamic animation blending on the main characters.
Between Cell and RSX, you can do awful lot on PS3, but you have to develop the games for it, and the kind of distributed programming required to harness 8 distributed processing cores (1 PPU, 6 SPU, 1 RSX) takes a lot of time and money to do, and straightforward ports from 360-style DirectX games won't necessarily show what the PS3 can really do to best advantage.
The PS3 has another advantage with the Blu-Ray disc, as it has over 5 times more on-disc storage than the 360 has (though at the cost of a reduced maximum transfer speed). That can help allow for more extravagant level budgets, especially in titles that support streaming audio and graphics loading.
The bottom line is, we've not begun to see the best of what either the 360 or the PS3 will be capable of. The good news is that Sony is making a big enough push that they might get enough purchasers of their console that the budgets will have a chance to continue to be there to make these amazing games.
We designed some software that we use to manage our IP network, called Ganymede. It's designed to track data in a transactional object store, then turn around and re-build BIND files, NIS maps, and whatever other directory services data you care to manage with it. It's a bit unconventional, but if you need to be able to have full scripting control over your environment, it's really very powerful.
Drop me an email if you're interested in talking about it.
Have you ever played Second Life? There are ads all over the place!
The difference, I suppose, is that in Second Life, the real estate to place the ads on is acquired through in-game trading and negotiation, but Second Life is the furthest thing from a non-commercial wonderland.
Second Life: The World's Greatest Real Estate And Advertising Market Simulator (tm)
My wife and I are playing through Okami now. It's one of the most fun games I've played on the PS2, with lots of interesting things to do and see, and the art is just beautiful.
But that is not convenient for politicians who want power, and bureaucrats who can manage whole new divisions of government if they get funding to try to act on something with the citizens money, when there is only speculation as to what is going on and to what degree, let alone whether we can actually do anything about it.
Amen, and amen.
I just pray to God that the scientists keep looking for patterns and physics to try to explain what we see in atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations as well, while they're at it.
You're the first developer I've heard indicate that programming the PS3 is harder than programming the PS2. With PS3, you at least have a fairly straight-forward PPE and the use of OpenGL for the graphics.. it's got to be easier to bring up a game with that than on PS2, right?
As long as you have a television that can accept and (if necessary) do a good job of scaling a 1080i or 1080p signal, the PS3 is the best, and cheapest, Blu-Ray player currently on the market.
The only things to be aware are that the PS3 doesn't have an IR port, so you'll need to plan on using the wireless game controller to control Blu-Ray playback, or you'll need to spend $30 to get Sony's Bluetooth remote control, which doesn't come with the system.
It 2007, and my browser uses Java 1.4.2 because a basic corporate app won't run on 1.5. You would recognize the company, We're a big Java supporter.
That's one of the things that Java Web Start gives you. You can have several versions of Java installed concurrently, and the JNLP launch file can specify which versions of Java are known to be compatible. If you don't have a compatible version, Java Web Start can even offer to go out and download the appropriate version for you.
We've been deploying our Java app using Java Web Start since the 1.3 days. If your app doesn't support Java Web Start, your developers are doing you a major disservice.
Then there's the web app that requires Sun Java and the web app that requires MS Java, both of which run only in IE, and both of which are supposed to run ON THE SAME MACHINE! (I have to deal with that situation once. Royal pain in the rear-end. I don't remember how I solved it, actually...)
Ah.. 1997 called, they want their rant back.
Seriously, Java's pretty clean and clear now, and much better than once it was. Especially with Java Web Start.
Does nothing to help the original poster, but there you are.
Yeah, I'll third that. ncurses is completely A-OK for terminal apps to be deployed on Unix-style systems. Especially since you're wanting support for serial consoles.
In point of fact, I'm not familiar with any new advances in terminal display libraries since ncurses, really. I know that Red Hat uses a Python-based installer (Anaconda) that can support both a graphical/X display and a text-mode interface when no X display is available. It may be interesting to see what they are using, as I suspect they are using a higher level windowing library that has curses and X display options. If you are Python-friendly, it might be worth looking at that to see if they're doing anything usefully fancy.
Otherwise, yeah, ncurses is what I've got.
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I'm sure that it is. Java's backwards compatibility has always been pretty spectacular. They've got millions of lines of unit-test code that they test new releases against, in addition to major applications which get explicit testing. JBoss is about as major an application as you'll find.
Right, and those are sunk costs, no matter what. It's irrelevant how long it would take Sony to pay back their development costs, really. If Sony doesn't do what is necessary to get their price as competitive as possible, that's Sony's problem. Keeping the price high to try and earn back their investment on the hardware would be folly if it results in no one buying the machines.
Please stay away from Splenda which is basically just chlorinated sugar (I don't want to let any more chlorine into my body if possible) as well as all of the other artificial sweeteners like Nutrasweet, etc. They are NOT natural substances and instead are just man made chemicals, can be dangerous, and there are natural alternatives that are proven to be safe.
Watch out, a lot of products feature chlorinated sodium, as well.
You pose an excellent, yet rhetorical question and it illustrates perfectly the absurd redundancy of java which claims to be cross platform but really is not, all it does is waste system resources and ecourage you to depend on inefficient and probably broken classes written by other people.
Where did this rant come from? The o.p. didn't mention or allude to Java at all.. it was a question about why people think that cross-platform development effort is hard/useless.
Are you saying that people only think cross-platform development is hard because.. Java has clouded mens' minds? You're not really saying that, are you?
I don't know what system the grand parent post was talking about, but it certainly wasn't any Amiga system. Every Amiga from the 1000 onwards had a RCA composite out (which could do color just fine, in the same way that NTSC can be broadcast over the air and be displayed by both color and black and white sets) and an RGB port.
The RGB port did require a special cable (this was pre-VGA, remember), but if you bought a monitor from Commodore the cable always came with.
Microsoft's goal is to eliminate Linux as a threat to its survival. This means fracturing the market, capturing revenue from it where possible, and letting everyone know that it would be a real shame if you were to use Linux without paying them for it.
It's SCO all over again, except that with patents, this might actually have some teeth.
Microsoft has a long history of using licensing agreements to knife their so-called friends, and Novell is a friend to Microsoft only for so long as Microsoft is more worried about Red Hat than it is about Novell. If Novell actually does well in this deal, Microsoft will knock them down when the deal expires.
Microsoft is ruthless, that's why they are where they are. Nothing there has changed, except now they are aggressively moving to exploit the industry-wide monopoly of ideas that patent gives them, rather than the more limited (!) hundred-billion dollar monopoly they've enjoyed through copyright.
Have they learned how to deal with users who are not running with administrative privileges? I am so tired of NAV popping up to prompt me to pull virus updates, only to fail miserably if I tell it to update because it wasn't smart enough to realize that I am running without admin privs.
That's your opinion. Microsoft had a different opinion; they were of the opinion that they were attempting to kill Netscape, to strangle the company and to cut off its air supply, by hook or by crook.
It's also true that Microsoft produced a better product than Netscape.. if they'd been willing to leave it at that, they wouldn't have got into the trouble they did. But they weren't willing to leave it to that, and they were convicted of Sherman Act violations as a result.
Hey, um, guys, there's not actually any content to be seen in the linked article. All it says is that Sony is not going to hit its expected ship targets this year, and that this is going to cost them money.
This isn't news. We've known for months now that they wouldn't hit their initial ship targets. Nothing in this article says that Sony is not going
to hit the revised ship targets that Sony detailed after TGS. 2 million consoles by the end of the year with 6 million by the end of March is precisely in line with what Sony said at TGS, and it's still a very aggressive ramp up. Microsoft will have taken twice to three times as long to achieve that sort of ship levels.
In the case of ReiserFS, the code doesn't get into the mainline kernel without it being reviewed by enough people that there is some hope of maintainability in the absence of one key person.
The problem comes in when no one else wants to maintain a piece of code, but then that's why people pay Red Hat or SuSE cash for their otherwise freely distributable distributions.
It's not at all clear that the PS3 is _fanless_. It does have a lot of ventilation holes, and heat pipes to carry heat away from the Cell and RSX, but one would expect there would have to be at least a low speed fan to assist in cooling if/when the temperature rises on the chips.
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Wow. I've never known there were so many parrots on Slashdot. You may say what you please about Windows - the operating system blows, without question. I can't believe people are stupid enough to think OOo is somehow 'better' than MSO because it's open source or whatever. There's a reason MSO dominates the office suite industry, and it ain't because of monopoly, or proprietary file formats, or whatever excuse Slashdotters are giving at the moment. At the end of the day, OOo is a toy compared to MSO.
Well, Anonymous (may I call you Anonymous?), the unfortunate thing is that it is because of monopoly and proprietary file formats. Go run and do some reading on 'network effects'.
Because they can port their MMORPG games to the PS3 and re-use their existing server farms, right along their PC clients. On the 360, they'd be required to use XBox Live for all the multiplayer gaming.
The first and more important fact is that the hardware is powerful enough on both the 360 and the PS3 that you can get more payback for good artistic direction and heavy technical investment than ever before. The 360 and the PS3 will both respond very nicely to extravagantly expensive development budgets, and the skill of the developers and artists working on the average game will probably make much more difference in the quality of the results than any differences between the hardware will.
That said, and while the 360's graphics chip is probably superior to the PS3's, the PS3 was designed to have the Cell and RSX working together in a very close fashion. Killzone 2 is being developed with a deferred renderer, in which the Cell can overlay lighting calculations on top of the rendered polygons, rather than having all of that be always done with the RSX. Lair is using the Cell to do dynamic winnowing down of the in-game geometry to present only the essential data to RSX, while continuing to animate everything with high fidelity. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune is using Cell to do very ambitious dynamic animation blending on the main characters.
Between Cell and RSX, you can do awful lot on PS3, but you have to develop the games for it, and the kind of distributed programming required to harness 8 distributed processing cores (1 PPU, 6 SPU, 1 RSX) takes a lot of time and money to do, and straightforward ports from 360-style DirectX games won't necessarily show what the PS3 can really do to best advantage.
The PS3 has another advantage with the Blu-Ray disc, as it has over 5 times more on-disc storage than the 360 has (though at the cost of a reduced maximum transfer speed). That can help allow for more extravagant level budgets, especially in titles that support streaming audio and graphics loading.
The bottom line is, we've not begun to see the best of what either the 360 or the PS3 will be capable of. The good news is that Sony is making a big enough push that they might get enough purchasers of their console that the budgets will have a chance to continue to be there to make these amazing games.
We designed some software that we use to manage our IP network, called Ganymede. It's designed to track data in a transactional object store, then turn around and re-build BIND files, NIS maps, and whatever other directory services data you care to manage with it. It's a bit unconventional, but if you need to be able to have full scripting control over your environment, it's really very powerful.
Drop me an email if you're interested in talking about it.
Have you ever played Second Life? There are ads all over the place!
The difference, I suppose, is that in Second Life, the real estate to place the ads on is acquired through in-game trading and negotiation, but Second Life is the furthest thing from a non-commercial wonderland.
Second Life: The World's Greatest Real Estate And Advertising Market Simulator (tm)
My wife and I are playing through Okami now. It's one of the most fun games I've played on the PS2, with lots of interesting things to do and see, and the art is just beautiful.
Kudos, guys.
But that is not convenient for politicians who want power, and bureaucrats who can manage whole new divisions of government if they get funding to try to act on something with the citizens money, when there is only speculation as to what is going on and to what degree, let alone whether we can actually do anything about it.
Amen, and amen.
I just pray to God that the scientists keep looking for patterns and physics to try to explain what we see in atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations as well, while they're at it.
You're the first developer I've heard indicate that programming the PS3 is harder than programming the PS2. With PS3, you at least have a fairly straight-forward PPE and the use of OpenGL for the graphics.. it's got to be easier to bring up a game with that than on PS2, right?
As long as you have a television that can accept and (if necessary) do a good job of scaling a 1080i or 1080p signal, the PS3 is the best, and cheapest, Blu-Ray player currently on the market.
The only things to be aware are that the PS3 doesn't have an IR port, so you'll need to plan on using the wireless game controller to control Blu-Ray playback, or you'll need to spend $30 to get Sony's Bluetooth remote control, which doesn't come with the system.
Toshiba, you mean.
It 2007, and my browser uses Java 1.4.2 because a basic corporate app won't run on 1.5. You would recognize the company, We're a big Java supporter.
That's one of the things that Java Web Start gives you. You can have several versions of Java installed concurrently, and the JNLP launch file can specify which versions of Java are known to be compatible. If you don't have a compatible version, Java Web Start can even offer to go out and download the appropriate version for you.
We've been deploying our Java app using Java Web Start since the 1.3 days. If your app doesn't support Java Web Start, your developers are doing you a major disservice.
Then there's the web app that requires Sun Java and the web app that requires MS Java, both of which run only in IE, and both of which are supposed to run ON THE SAME MACHINE! (I have to deal with that situation once. Royal pain in the rear-end. I don't remember how I solved it, actually...)
Ah.. 1997 called, they want their rant back.
Seriously, Java's pretty clean and clear now, and much better than once it was. Especially with Java Web Start.
Does nothing to help the original poster, but there you are.
Yeah, I'll third that. ncurses is completely A-OK for terminal apps to be deployed on Unix-style systems. Especially since you're wanting support for serial consoles.
In point of fact, I'm not familiar with any new advances in terminal display libraries since ncurses, really. I know that Red Hat uses a Python-based installer (Anaconda) that can support both a graphical/X display and a text-mode interface when no X display is available. It may be interesting to see what they are using, as I suspect they are using a higher level windowing library that has curses and X display options. If you are Python-friendly, it might be worth looking at that to see if they're doing anything usefully fancy.
Otherwise, yeah, ncurses is what I've got.
I'm sure that it is. Java's backwards compatibility has always been pretty spectacular. They've got millions of lines of unit-test code that they test new releases against, in addition to major applications which get explicit testing. JBoss is about as major an application as you'll find.
Right, and those are sunk costs, no matter what. It's irrelevant how long it would take Sony to pay back their development costs, really. If Sony doesn't do what is necessary to get their price as competitive as possible, that's Sony's problem. Keeping the price high to try and earn back their investment on the hardware would be folly if it results in no one buying the machines.
Please stay away from Splenda which is basically just chlorinated sugar (I don't want to let any more chlorine into my body if possible) as well as all of the other artificial sweeteners like Nutrasweet, etc. They are NOT natural substances and instead are just man made chemicals, can be dangerous, and there are natural alternatives that are proven to be safe.
Watch out, a lot of products feature chlorinated sodium, as well.
You pose an excellent, yet rhetorical question and it illustrates perfectly the absurd redundancy of java which claims to be cross platform but really is not, all it does is waste system resources and ecourage you to depend on inefficient and probably broken classes written by other people.
Where did this rant come from? The o.p. didn't mention or allude to Java at all.. it was a question about why people think that cross-platform development effort is hard/useless.
Are you saying that people only think cross-platform development is hard because.. Java has clouded mens' minds? You're not really saying that, are you?
I don't know what system the grand parent post was talking about, but it certainly wasn't any Amiga system. Every Amiga from the 1000 onwards had a RCA composite out (which could do color just fine, in the same way that NTSC can be broadcast over the air and be displayed by both color and black and white sets) and an RGB port.
The RGB port did require a special cable (this was pre-VGA, remember), but if you bought a monitor from Commodore the cable always came with.
My list..
8 years pass..
Oddly, I still have the TRS-80 Model 1 and its Monitor in custom-built cases in the garage. All the others are long since gone, though.
Nonsense.
Microsoft's goal is to eliminate Linux as a threat to its survival. This means fracturing the market, capturing revenue from it where possible, and letting everyone know that it would be a real shame if you were to use Linux without paying them for it.
It's SCO all over again, except that with patents, this might actually have some teeth.
Microsoft has a long history of using licensing agreements to knife their so-called friends, and Novell is a friend to Microsoft only for so long as Microsoft is more worried about Red Hat than it is about Novell. If Novell actually does well in this deal, Microsoft will knock them down when the deal expires.
Microsoft is ruthless, that's why they are where they are. Nothing there has changed, except now they are aggressively moving to exploit the industry-wide monopoly of ideas that patent gives them, rather than the more limited (!) hundred-billion dollar monopoly they've enjoyed through copyright.
Have they learned how to deal with users who are not running with administrative privileges? I am so tired of NAV popping up to prompt me to pull virus updates, only to fail miserably if I tell it to update because it wasn't smart enough to realize that I am running without admin privs.
That's your opinion. Microsoft had a different opinion; they were of the opinion that they were attempting to kill Netscape, to strangle the company and to cut off its air supply, by hook or by crook.
It's also true that Microsoft produced a better product than Netscape.. if they'd been willing to leave it at that, they wouldn't have got into the trouble they did. But they weren't willing to leave it to that, and they were convicted of Sherman Act violations as a result.
Hey, um, guys, there's not actually any content to be seen in the linked article. All it says is that Sony is not going to hit its expected ship targets this year, and that this is going to cost them money.
This isn't news. We've known for months now that they wouldn't hit their initial ship targets. Nothing in this article says that Sony is not going to hit the revised ship targets that Sony detailed after TGS. 2 million consoles by the end of the year with 6 million by the end of March is precisely in line with what Sony said at TGS, and it's still a very aggressive ramp up. Microsoft will have taken twice to three times as long to achieve that sort of ship levels.
In the case of ReiserFS, the code doesn't get into the mainline kernel without it being reviewed by enough people that there is some hope of maintainability in the absence of one key person.
The problem comes in when no one else wants to maintain a piece of code, but then that's why people pay Red Hat or SuSE cash for their otherwise freely distributable distributions.
It's not at all clear that the PS3 is _fanless_. It does have a lot of ventilation holes, and heat pipes to carry heat away from the Cell and RSX, but one would expect there would have to be at least a low speed fan to assist in cooling if/when the temperature rises on the chips.
We'll know soon enough.