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Sony Displays New PSP, Polished Games At E3

Sony had a lot to prove coming into this event, and kicked off on a high note. The PlayStation 2 is still selling units, and the PSP's numbers are apparently up as well. They followed that with the news of a new version of the PlayStation Portable. It's slimmer, lighter, has a longer battery life, and the ability to connect directly to your television to display video and games. There was a good deal of discussion about upcoming PSP titles, some of which are connected to a PSP bundle. Pushing out the PS3, they show several PlayStation Store titles, included the fascinating-looking Echochrome . Moving onto the Home service they discussed cellphone and website tie-ins to the Home service, as well as the ability to launch games from directly within the Home environment. Referencing the price cut, they reveal sales have already gone up. NCSoft, Epic, and Ubisoft are all referenced as heavy backers of the PlayStation, with a tantalizing statement suggesting that user-created mods for Unreal Tournament will be coming to the console via the Playstation Network. A lengthy Metal Gear Solid 4 trailer and a statement that the game is only for the PS3 (still to be determined), due early in 2008, cap off the third-party section. First-party titles show all of the highlights of Sony's portfolio with the LittleBigPlanet trailer emphasizing creation rather than play, and their Heavenly Sword highlight showcasing the game's story for the first time. A new sandbox title with a morality component was announced, InFamous, as was a new chapter in the Gran Turismo series. The press conference wrapped with a gripping trailer for Killzone 2, completely running in real-time.

236 comments

  1. Crush by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 0, Troll

    I am highly pissed that Crush is only available for the PSP. We finally get an imaginative, mind stretching game, and it's for that thing.

    1. Re:Crush by DrXym · · Score: 1
      I am highly pissed that Crush is only available for the PSP. We finally get an imaginative, mind stretching game, and it's for that thing.

      Well Harrison did demo that Echo Chrome thing which looks similar in concept - rotating Escher-esque views around to cover holes and so on.

    2. Re:Crush by CaseM · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And I'm pissed that I can only play Zelda on Nintendo products and Halo on Microsoft products...

    3. Re:Crush by Osty · · Score: 1

      And I'm pissed that I can only play Zelda on Nintendo products and Halo on Microsoft products...

      Since when does Sega make the PSP?

    4. Re:Crush by Necreia · · Score: 1

      And in other news, several Nintendo DS games will not be available for other game systems.

    5. Re:Crush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry, after it sells it's 1000 copies(Since no one buys PSP software really), SEGA will probably port it to the Wii/PS2. That seems to be the PSP software lifecycle.

    6. Re:Crush by metamatic · · Score: 1

      Try Super Paper Mario on the Wii.

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    7. Re:Crush by Gravatron · · Score: 1

      Paper mario was a platformer that tried to play like an RPG, but was too chatty to be one and too lacking in options to be the other. Toss in the boring 3d landscapes that seemed like an afterthought, and secondary characters, items, etc, that never really get used and well, it falls flat. I should know, I own it.

    8. Re:Crush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am highly pissed that Crush is only available for the PSP. We finally get an imaginative, mind stretching game, and it's for that thing.

      I don't really care about (any)Pokemon, (any)Mario or (any)Nintendogs, so I don't really miss out by not having a DS. But if the DS played Crush, Lumines, GTA and Chili Con Carnage, I might seriously consider buying one.

      Sometimes that's how it works. Sometimes people see games they like and that helps them make the decision to get the console they play on. If you like Crush you should check out the rest of the PSP library. If you see stuff you like, you can buy "that thing" and have all the fun you want with imaginative mind stretching.

    9. Re:Crush by LKM · · Score: 1

      Looks like Crush might also come out on the Wii and the DS. The developers are currently considering it, although there's no official announcement yet. It's a great game, btw.

    10. Re:Crush by donaldm · · Score: 1

      But with PSP and home-brew firmware you can play Nintendo NES, SNES, Gameboy, Gameboy Advance games plus Sega games in-fact any emulator games as well as AVI and MP4 movie files and if you get sick of that you can also play PSP games as well. Soon you will be able to play PS1 games via legitimate (a few dollars per game) download or by ripping your PS1 disk (not sure about this one though look at the home-brew sites).

      I have even seen MP4 movies ripped and scaled to the PSP having Genuine Sony firmware and played via the PS3 to a HDTV via HDMI and it actually gets upscaled to the size of the HDTV although the output was not quite as good as an upscaled DVD but it was still very watchable. I am not sure how useful this would be (possibly TV episodes) but it was interesting.

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    11. Re:Crush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Insightful? You can play Halo on the Mac quite happily.

    12. Re:Crush by metamatic · · Score: 1

      Funny, I'm really enjoying it.

      Then again, I like long adventure games. I wished Twilight Princess had been a bit bigger and a bit longer.

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  2. Really real-time? by Crasty · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope it's running in real real-time and not just real time like the previous trailer at last year's E3. Because as real as time was at the time, the demo wasn't very real, just based on what they believed would be real.. at the time.

    1. Re:Really real-time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, Gears of War looked better than their "real time demo", so odds are it really is realtime time time...

    2. Re:Really real-time? by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Gears of War was made by Epic, Killzone is made by someone else. Not everyone can do what Epic can do and considering the number of complaints about KZ1 I doubt this dev is anywhere near the same level as Epic.

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  3. Did anyone see MGS4 Gameplay? by trdrstv · · Score: 1
    Ok, not to sound trollish, but was anyone anywhere playing MGS4? Was there a HUD on screen at any time?

    Everything I've seen has been FMV trailers, and though they DO look great... So did the FMV in Final Fantasy VII...

    1. Re:Did anyone see MGS4 Gameplay? by MooseMuffin · · Score: 1

      Trailer wasn't FMV, it was realtime, in-engine footage. Not gameplay, but its a far cry from pre-rendered FMV. Its the same graphical quality you'd see from gameplay.

    2. Re:Did anyone see MGS4 Gameplay? by Osty · · Score: 1

      Trailer wasn't FMV, it was realtime, in-engine footage. Not gameplay, but its a far cry from pre-rendered FMV. Its the same graphical quality you'd see from gameplay.

      Just like last year's Killzone2 trailer, right? I'm sorry, but I won't buy that something is "in-engine footage" unless there's somebody in front of the TV who is obviously controlling it. I definitely won't just take Sony's word for it.

    3. Re:Did anyone see MGS4 Gameplay? by drewmca · · Score: 1

      I have no doubt that it was realtime, or that it was MGS gameplay. Because after all, MGS gameplay is pretty much just watching videos. At least it's more involved than two heads.

    4. Re:Did anyone see MGS4 Gameplay? by MeanderingMind · · Score: 1

      Oh I'm sure it's "in-engine" footage. The Important Question (TM): What is running the engine?

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    5. Re:Did anyone see MGS4 Gameplay? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      The MGS4 trailer is most definitely the in-game engine. No doubt about it whatsoever. And I'd reckon it's the engine actually running in realtime, too - do you reckon the RSX (basically a 7800 GT, so we have a very good idea of its performance) could do that in realtime? I do.

      It's not farfetched at all; it's good, with excellent particles and depth of field. I like the shaders on the tarps. And it's got all the little flaws I spot with my 7-series card all the time, and overall the graphics quality reminds me very greatly of MGS3, just in a higher resolution, with higher framerates.

      If you have any doubts as to whether it's realtime, just look at the shadows on the beige before Snake lines up his first shot at Liquid. They match the usual shadow artefacts I see on my 7900 GTX precisely; decimated because the shadow buffer resolution is too low, then interpolated via texture filtering. Yup, that'll be real-time.

      Besides, Kojima just doesn't pull stunts like that. He's not a dog-and-pony-show kind of guy, and he prefers polygon demos to FMV, because it doesn't seem out of place with the rest of the game's visuals.

      Anyway, it looks like a damn good game from what we've seen. Even if Snake's starting to look like his dad. And is that Raiden and Vamp?

      I might buy a PS3 for it- ... gah, what'd I just say?! ... *sigh* My wallet is going to hate me for even saying that in its presence... wake me when they announce a bigger price drop.

    6. Re:Did anyone see MGS4 Gameplay? by MooseMuffin · · Score: 1

      I guess my only response to that is that it simply didn't look good enough to be pre-rendered FMV.

    7. Re:Did anyone see MGS4 Gameplay? by michaelmateyko · · Score: 1

      during last year's e3 (or was it the tgs?) kojima froze the trailer and moved the camera around, displaying different dof effects, lighting conditions, and so on. it's real.

  4. My Thoughts from E3 by Dr+Kool,+PhD · · Score: 0, Troll

    The new slim PSP is awesome. The bundle with the new PSP + 1 GB memory stick + a game + several UMD movies in an extraordinary value. Additional features on PSP are cool, basically TV out on your PSP. They said the new PSP is something like 33% lighter and 25% thinner, unfortunately it will be 100% less hackable too. Not too excited about the 80GB PS3, I think the 60 GB PS3 priced at $499 is a better value.

    Home looks great, everything I hoped it would be. It's a full-featured virtual MMO world with tons of new social networking features. I predict home will replace the normal "launch game" interface of the PS3, launching your games in a 3D virtual world is so much cooler than just using a menu.

    PS3 -- GAMES, GAMES and MORE GAMES. That phrase was repeated twice, and it's true. FIFTEEN first-party exclusives coming out for PS3 before the end of the fiscal year and more third party exclusives. 150 Blu-Ray games out for PS3 by the end of the year in North America. Obviously we're going to see a large number of titles launch in the next five months. All the games presented looked good, some looked AMAZING. Gran Turismo - WOW. It was like watching a real car race. MGS4 - the LAST game of the Metal Gear series. Also looks awesome. Little Big Planet is something we've never seen from a video game before. And don't forget KILLZONE 2. Just AMAZING. Graphics were off the chart. I can't describe how awesome Killzone 2 looked, you have to see for yourself. Wow just wow.

    Overall it was an awesome presentation by Sony. They presented what I wanted to see which was GAMES. Way better than the boring Nintendo presentation with spreadsheets and graphs and NO GAMES. I especially liked the Kaz "Riiiiidge Racer" joke, shows these guys have a sense of humor. Congrats on a great E3 Sony.

    1. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by physicsnick · · Score: 2, Informative

      The bundle with the PSP doesn't contain any UMD movies; it comes with the Family Guy Freakin' Sweet Collection, which is just five episodes (mind you, the best five episodes of the first three seasons.) It also comes with Daxter and a 1 GB memory stick.

      The most exciting announcement about the entire conference for me was the new PSP's TV-out feature. I was disappointed that it didn't have TV-out on release several years ago, and I am very excited about it now. It's finally like a portable console, and the portability is finally a reason to actually buy UMD content. It's one of the things that is making me consider getting one someday, and the $199 bundle does seem like a great deal.

      Also, Echochrome looks totally awesome. If I don't play that game soon, I think I might die.

    2. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by John+Fulmer · · Score: 1, Troll

      Somebody must have bought some Sony stock.... 'investorelite' indeed.

      *Sigh* The astroturf is getting mighty tall these days.

    3. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by CyberLord+Seven · · Score: 1
      Have you ever actually watched a movie on your PSP?

      I'm not trolling or anything, just curious. I have two UMD movies: Spider-man 2, came with my PSP, and Blade was a gift. I love both movies and have them on DVD where I've watched them many times.

      I have tried to watch them on my PSP. Never got more than a half-hour into either before I shut it down.

      Has anyone ever managed to watch an entire movie on a PSP?

      Maybe I'm watching the wrong type of movie for that small screen.

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    4. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by Dr+Kool,+PhD · · Score: 1

      I occasionally watch downloaded videos on my PSP when I'm on an airplane. I'm not thrilled about UMD movies, but I sure would have bought a UMD movie + PSP game + 1GB memory stick + a PSP for $200 instead of buying just a PSP for $170.

      Obviously watching a movie on your PSP won't be as great as watching at home. I think Sony needs to cut the price of their UMD movies a bit to reflect this.

    5. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by feepness · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Have you ever actually watched a movie on your PSP?

      I've watched hundred of hours of movies and TV shows on my PSP.

      Air travel + PSP + movies (on a memory stick) = Heaven.

      No need for a laptop in your carryon means you can "sail" through security. The instant on/off is wonderful as well. You can use it while actually standing in line. One 4Gig stick will hold an entire season of a television show plus a movie or two.

      You get good battery life (a little under three hours) because it's not hitting the UMD, but for longer flights you can get: a USB battery box and a USB charging cable. It will suck down batteries (but this setup allows the brightest screen mode) but work like a charm. I went through 16 AA's on a 24 hour flight once.

      Oh yeah, I also rest it on the treadmill in front of me while running. I've lost 10 pounds when I never had the patience before. No physical media = no skipping.

      I just kick myself for waiting a year to get one. It is by far the best video player available and Sony has marketed it INCREDIBLY poorly.

      Never played a UMD though. Those are a waste of money IMO.

    6. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, ok... If the post was all bubbling about new Nintendo products, the guy would have gotten modded up and people would be cheering him on. But because it's Sony, he's modded down and called an astroturfer.

      This shit happens WAY too often around here.

    7. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by crabpeople · · Score: 0, Troll

      "Air travel + PSP + movies (on a memory stick) = Heaven."

      Well except for your stated 3 hour battery life (my laptop has 5-6 when watching movies), and the small ass screen you have to watch it on. But yeah i guess you found the one use for a psp. Too bad more people don't take long flights and enjoy squinting or it would really take off!

      "I just kick myself for waiting a year to get one."

      I dont see why. Craigslist has tonnes of them fully loaded for 150-200. Didnt it retail for double that a year ago?

      "Sony has marketed it INCREDIBLY poorly."

      I can see the ad now, something to do with mr magoo, living in an airport, with a sac of double A batteries.

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    8. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by feepness · · Score: 1

      Chuckle. Nice editing.

    9. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "But because it's Sony, he's modded down and called an astroturfer."

      Look at his post history. Nothing but repackaged Sony press releases.

    10. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by Akaihiryuu · · Score: 1

      I know I'm nitpicking, but memory sticks are physical media...I think you meant to say no moving parts = no skipping. Just couldn't resist. You made some good points though.

    11. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only problem with using the PSP as a video player is that it only supports a single video format: MPEG-4.

      http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/PSP/Movies/s _psp_mv_CF.html

      Unless you are encoding your own content everything on a.b.tv and on torrent sites uses Xvid so you are stuck re-encoding every single piece of content.

    12. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by feepness · · Score: 1

      Unless you are encoding your own content everything on a.b.tv and on torrent sites uses Xvid so you are stuck re-encoding every single piece of content. Yeah, that is a pain in the ass. If Apple can make iTunes what is holding up Sony who even holds the content themselves??
    13. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      It's quite easy to find ready for PSP content out there (or for other devices that can play H.264/MPEG$, but why on earth do they still use xvid rather than superior H.264. Inertia? Stubbornness?

    14. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by feepness · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That anyone could mod that insightful or even take that seriously is sad.

      1. 3 hours is enough for flights 1/2 way across the country (you can't have it on every single second.) I gave a very cheap way to extend battery life (because I'm a cheap ass) but for the price of a laptop I could purchase 2 additional proprietary batteries for 9 hours of battery life and still be at a third the price of a laptop.

      2. You ignored the fact that I take it on a treadmill everyday. I also take it with me around town when I have to wait at the Doctors and the like. I would personally not want to take a laptop with me to either place.

      3. People complain about it being too big as it is. The screen is the size it's at. That doesn't stop people from enjoying the PSP or the DS for hours at a time.

    15. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, check out the power grip if you want more battery life. 5 hours more, plus it makes the PSP much easier to hold when playing games. Not sure if they will release a new one for the slimmer version. My hands/wrist used to hurt sometimes before I got this.

    16. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by The+PS3+Will+Fail · · Score: 1
      Sure, all that may look "cool" but are you really comfortable buying from a company who sued lik-sang.com out of business because Sony doesn't believe in the right of resale (i.e. Sony doesn't believe you should be allowed to have a garage sale.) and a company who installed rootkits on the computers of their own paying customers and when called out on it said, "What's the big deal?"

      Yeah, I'm not. Since those incidents, I've tried to avoid giving any money whatsoever to Sony as much as possible. Why are you so willing to buy from them? Do those trespasses committed by Sony mean nothing to you?

    17. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by ucblockhead · · Score: 3, Interesting
      The screen size is the same as the size of that iPhone thingy everyone is drooling over.


      I keep a spare PSP battery for long flights.

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    18. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The PSP plays mp4, just like the video ipods. What's your problem again? Few devices play the divx/xvid rips that you can nab from torrents and usenet without transcoding to mp4. Oh, if you can be bothered to look, you'll find the same things in mp4 format too. Can't think why...

    19. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by feepness · · Score: 1

      What's your problem again?

      That it's not integrated into an online store from Sony like iTunes? This isn't my problem actually... I get the content anyway... it's Sony's problem.

      I like my PSP... but getting content onto is not simple. I wouldn't recommend it to my mother which I would love to do.
    20. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by badasscat · · Score: 1

      Why are you so willing to buy from them? Do those trespasses committed by Sony mean nothing to you?

      Nintendo sued Camerica over the Game Genie because they didn't want people "cheating" at their own games that they purchased. They lost.

      They then sued Tengen (aka Atari) for producing "unlicensed" games - they lost that one too, but because of the expense of going to court over it, we now have required royalties and hardware lock-ins for all third party publishers. The DMCA now makes it a crime to circumvent those technological protections.

      Nintendo only recently sued Bung Electronics for copyright violations on products that probably fell under fair use provisions of copyright law and were most certainly reverse-engineered.

      In the late 1980's, Atari sued Nintendo for anti-trust violations. Atari won, and Nintendo was convicted of violating anti-trust laws.

      As for Microsoft, well, we all know they're a convicted monopolist that also happens to be financing (through a third party) SCO's lawsuit against various Linux entities.

      So my guess is you vote with your conscience and don't buy from any of these companies?

    21. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It must come as a huge shock to you that some people actually leave their hometowns.

    22. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by The+PS3+Will+Fail · · Score: 1

      "So my guess is you vote with your conscience and don't buy from any of these companies?"
      As little as possible. With all the various movie labels that Sony owns, I probably end up watching some movies that are indirectly owned by Sony but I do my best to limit it. But certainly - I don't buy from Microsoft or Nintendo either.

      Why did you type so much just to ask that question?

    23. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by nschubach · · Score: 1

      You mean your not the guy living down by the barber shop?

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    24. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How long are you going to keep that username?

      Until you look like a total douchewad?

    25. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is just more BS from Sony. When Nintendo redesigned their system, they lowered the price by $20. Sony ups the price by $30!??!?!

      They include a decent game(but what about the people that don't like daxter or already have it). Include a memory stick, which I already have several of. And a UMD of Family Guy(I'm not really a fan).

      Will they EVER learn? I wish they would treat customers half as good as Nintendo.

    26. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by Fozzyuw · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I pretty much agree with your assessment of the PSP as a video machine. The screen is beautiful (though I do get frustrated at my dead pixels from time to time). You can pickup a proprietary Sony memory card for pretty cheep these days.

      I actually used my PSP as an MP3 and movie player more than a game player and it sounds like you're doing the same. The gym was my main use. I never saw Star Trek DS9 so I ripped the episodes to my PSP and watched an episode while at the gym. That's a good 45min workout.

      I did buy "Ghostbusters" and I was given "Without a Paddle" UMD movies. The movies where nice. good quality, lacking in features that the normal DVD's had, but at least they had sub-titles. I wouldn't buy any more UMD's though. Far to expensive.

      Anyway, the point is still, the PSP is still lacking in the gaming department, but it's a great mobile video machine. Oh, and I own a 2nd battery as I fly to France from Chicago from time to time (8 hour flight).

      Cheers,
      Fozzy

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    27. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by asc99c · · Score: 1

      Actually yes. Heading off on holiday, I threw plenty of movies on a 4GB memory stick. Watched a couple on the flight out and then deleted them from the memory stick which was being shared with my camera. Only managed to save space for 1 film on the way back though. I wouldn't go out and buy a PSP for this purpose - won it in a raffle :) - but it did a decent job even so. Better quality screen than you get on any cheap planes, and your choice of film.

    28. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 1

      As the owner of an original PSP, here's my take on what I've heard.

      1. TV-OUT... Horray. I agree with the parent.. this is something that should have been on the original PSP. My hope was at time went on they'd add it as a feature in a firmware upgrade and then sell a do-hickey that would connect to the USB. The lack of a TV-OUT was also my reason for shrugging at UMD movies... for the same reason. I'd rather watch them on a big screen.

      2. Games... This makes me very happy. With that said, people are always pissing and moaning about the lack of games for the PSP, which I think is a bit unfounded. Everytime I get near a GameStop/EB/Target I see at least 10 games that I go "oh... when I'm doing playing this game, I'll buy that one".

      3. 30% lighter... It was never heavy anyway... plus now all the accessories (like PSP cases) aren't going to fit it.

      4. Faster Game loading... Horray! If the PSP has a short coming, it's that. Those of you out there playing "Untold Legends: Brotherhood of th e Blade" know what I'm talking about!

      5. Longer battery life... Also a Horray, but not that much. I'm still using the original battery and I'm getting 4+ hours of game play per charge. However I do follow good battery use practices...

      Now... [steps onto soapbox] Sony needs to release an SDK that's affordable to the homebrew people (like me) and create a place were people can legitimately upload their creations.

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    29. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by nschubach · · Score: 1

      For the same reason you typed so much to ask your question I would assume.

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    30. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > getting content onto is not simple. I wouldn't recommend it to my mother which I would love to do.

      I'd love to do your mother too (sorry, the joke was just too easy (like your mother; again, sorry))...

      But seriously, what is it that makes it hard to get content onto it. Can't you just plug it into a USB port and have a new drive letter? Or do you have to use their own custom software, like the iPod (which is the single thing I dislike about the iPod)? I've never used a PSP and have only seen one once, so I don't know much about them.

    31. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The million of divx/xvid reading standalone dvd players...

    32. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by feepness · · Score: 1

      But seriously, what is it that makes it hard to get content onto it. Can't you just plug it into a USB port and have a new drive letter? Or do you have to use their own custom software, like the iPod (which is the single thing I dislike about the iPod)? I've never used a PSP and have only seen one once, so I don't know much about them. Oh, it's not HARD, for anyone like us. It's just not "mom-simple". She even uses a PSP I gave her to carry around pictures (big thing for her) and play music. But downloading videos requires torrent-ing or ripping the content, converting it, and then downloading it across the USB cable. I don't know why they don't have a store likes iTunes. That's half the reason people like the iPod I think.

      BTW, the "which" in the original sentence negates you're joke. If I'd used "that" or "whom" you'd be in business. ;)
    33. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by h3 · · Score: 1

      I bought my PSP just for this purpose and use it almost everyday on my bus ride commute. I still marvel at the gorgeousness of the screen and Sony's smoothing algorithms are *fantastic*. I encode to 368x208 using ffmpeg/h264 (I think the newer firmwares allow full screen resolution) and it's a dream to watch. I watch a lot of subtitled content, too, and reading the text is never a problem.

    34. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it isn't. iPhone is a 3.5" screen, PSP is a 4.3".

    35. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      True, but the PSP screen is lower rez. That combined with the fact that memory stick movies can't be played at native resolution so you're picture is even less rez than what it's capable of. Sharpness means I can stuff more movie in a smaller space and enjoy it just as much. Plus the smaller screen of the iPhone is always with me - whereas the PSP is "occasionally" with me.

    36. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by japhmi · · Score: 1

      After all the MPAA has done, you still buy movies! I'm shocked that you haven't boycotted the whole bunch.

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    37. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by 3choTh1s · · Score: 1

      Just wanted to say that you might just need a new PSP battery. I use my PSP similar to you media wise. On every trip to New York (I live in California) I have had no problems with it dying in the middle of the flight. One charge and I'm good from take off to touchdown, generally leading to roughly 5.5 hours of play time. Or maybe it's just the different way we are encoding video, but you can get really good battery life out of the PSP.

    38. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > BTW, the "which" in the original sentence negates you're joke

      Hey, I'm allowed to stretch a joke through grammatical misassumptions :)

    39. Re:My Thoughts from E3 by The+PS3+Will+Fail · · Score: 1
      I stopped watching movies completely for awhile but found that day-to-day conversations that people were having left me completely in the dark. So now I watch a few movies from time to time. The MPAA is terrible though - you've got that right.

      Have you seen "This Film Is Not Yet Rated"? Great film.

  5. Re:WOW by DrXym · · Score: 4, Interesting
    No, it's just you. Virtually the entire focus of the presentation was on the PS3 and PSP. Sony were "grasping at straws" by showing off lots of games including some new ones, Home, a new PSP and plenty more besides.

    Of the 3 presentations it was by far the most interesting.

  6. Pics of the new PSP by blackmonday · · Score: 4, Informative

    Engadget has the photos. It doesn't look that much thinner to me.

    1. Re:Pics of the new PSP by GrayCalx · · Score: 1

      Thanks, I was looking for pics. Yeah doesn't look too much thinner to me either, but every little bit helps I guess. The tv-out is... well it probably won't get much use, but its definitely a neat addition. I already own a PSP so I won't be buying a new one, but for what it is, a portable system, good for traveling and just quick games; I love mine.

    2. Re:Pics of the new PSP by DrXym · · Score: 1
      It's meant to be 1/5th thinner or so which isn't much. I think more important is the weight reduction which means the new model is 2/3rds the weight of the old one. How they're chopping the weight I don't know, but probably by simplifying the UMD mechanism and possibly the battery as well. The Engadget screenshots suggest the slight bulge at the back that housed the battery has gone, meaning this may well be how they cut some of the weight & volume.

      I was expecting something far more radical to be honest. It has some neat touches such as a video out, USB charging, and UMD caching, but it's more incremental than revolutionary.

    3. Re:Pics of the new PSP by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Nope,in fact it looks exactly like the PSP I got my daughter that I imported from Japan 2 christmas's ago.

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    4. Re:Pics of the new PSP by LordVader717 · · Score: 4, Funny

      You imported a daughter from Japan? I knew Thai girls were going cheap, but this is intriguing. Do you have a link to the online shop?

    5. Re:Pics of the new PSP by LKM · · Score: 1

      I was already thinking about replacing my PSP, but these don't look any different at all. Except for Darth Vader. I'd buy the Dart Vader one, maybe, but I don't really see any changes in the hardware itself.

  7. Re:WOW by Dr+Kool,+PhD · · Score: 1, Informative

    What the hell are you talking about?? Sony talked about PS2 for two minutes or so, then PSP for about fifteen minutes, then Home / PSN for fifteen minutes, followed by PS3 for about an hour. They saved the best for last.

  8. Exclusives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Be it exclusive or timed exclusive, those are some pretty big titles.

  9. Hmph. by A.S.Riley · · Score: 1

    I was extremely disappointed that the hot chicks from the square never came over to have the turkey burgers.

  10. It's Like The PS3 Is A Whole Gen Ahead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    I've been to many E3s and watched coverage of everyone since the first. Never has there been this big of a leap in graphics from one console company as Sony just showed with the PS3.

    Sony's first party stuff is just mindboggling good.

    Microsoft looked absolutely pathetic with the same old last gen looking Halo stuff. EARTH TO BUNGIE! NO ONE IS IMPRESSED WITH BRIGHT LIGHTS ON SHINY METAL ANYMORE! Other than a couple of crossplatform titles with Call of Duty 4 and Assasin's Creed, Microsoft is forcing 360 owners to sound like Wii owners with talk about "we don't care about graphics, just gameplay"

    1. Re:It's Like The PS3 Is A Whole Gen Ahead by aweiland · · Score: 1

      I don't think you seem to be watching the same thing the rest of us have. KZ2 is on par with GoW. Halo 3 has seen a graphics bump since beta. And FYI, gameplay makes or breaks a game, not graphics.

    2. Re:It's Like The PS3 Is A Whole Gen Ahead by Comen · · Score: 1

      Personaly I did not think KZ2 was on par with GoW, but that might just be me, GOW is hard to beat.

    3. Re:It's Like The PS3 Is A Whole Gen Ahead by LKM · · Score: 1

      Sony, please. This is getting ridiculous. How about making the PS3 another 100 bucks cheaper instead of paying people to post crap like this to /.? :-)

    4. Re:It's Like The PS3 Is A Whole Gen Ahead by @madeus · · Score: 1

      EARTH TO BUNGIE! NO ONE IS IMPRESSED WITH BRIGHT LIGHTS ON SHINY METAL ANYMORE! Yeah, I noticed the Killzone textures were just flat with impressions and bumps just drawn on to the texture like older Q2 and Q3 based titles (although, even later Q3 engine games were a bit more sophisticated than that). Retro 3D FTW.
  11. AWESOME! by zegota · · Score: 1

    ...as long as you're interested in FPSs, FPSs, and more FPSs (with some racing!)

    1. Re:AWESOME! by fistfullast33l · · Score: 1

      So you missed Heavenly Sword, Lair, Folklore, LittleBigPlanet and the PSN title Pain? Surprisingly no mention of FFXIII...kind of like the gigantic gorilla in the room.

  12. But..... by cstdenis · · Score: 4, Funny

    Will it blend?

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  13. Re:Oh My Fucking God Sony by dj_tla · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think you misposted -- you should be at http://blog.us.playstation.com/

  14. Light at the End of the Tunnle by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think that this year's E3 was exactly what Sony needed last year. Overall I think they showed off plenty of eye candy and a few exclusives that should help to drive sales in the coming months. The only problem is that many of these key games (MGS4 in particular) won't be coming until after the holiday season. A lot of the media and public opinion is that Sony is failing and a big holiday season for them would help to dispell some of those doubts.

    What I liked most about their conference is that they focused on showcasing the games coming out on their system instead of talking about sales figures and statistics (After watching the first fifteen minutes of the Nintendo conference, I was about ready for a nap). I suppose most of that stems from not having a lot of good news on that front. I don't mind a little bit of business, but I'm really more interested in seeing the games.

    Depending on how things turn out over the next few months and other games that Sony manages to add to the PS3, I might almost consider buying one now that they've dropped the price a little bit. Hopefully I'll get to learn a little more about some of the games being released before the holidays to see if it's worth purchasing one of them. It also seems as though they've done a lot to revitalize the PSP, which is also a lot more appealing.

    Overall I think that they should've given me a more compelling reason to puchase one of these during the holiday season or right now, but I think with the recent price drop and some of the good news from E3 that sales should pick up a little in the following weeks. If nothing else at least Sony has managed to pull its head out of its ass and get back on the right track. They still might end up like Nintendo during the GameCube era where they didn't receive a lot of support. They've still got a lot of leg work to prove to the rest of the world that they're a major contender.

    1. Re:Light at the End of the Tunnle by alvinrod · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And just yesterday I was called a Sony shill.

      Do I think Sony will flop? No, I think that they'll do fine, but there's a pervasive belief in the media and a lot of people that the PS3 is doing horribly and is going to fail. It's almost contagous in that it's causing companies like Konami to debate the exclusivity of the MGS4 and has caused Sony to lose a lot of exclusives. It's a snowball effect, really.

      The PS3 might many of the same games that made the PS2 so popular, but guess what, so does Microsoft this time around. Last time around the block GTA hit the PS2 first, now it's going to be on the 360 the exact same time. The only difference is that Microsoft will be seeing some exclusive content that the PS3 won't.

      Go ahead and take a look at what happened to Nintendo. The Nintendo 64 had a lot of the games that made the SNES great and the GameCube had an arguably better array of games than the Nintendo 64, but they lost market share to the point that many people were questioning how long until they pulled out of the hardware business like Sega did. I thought this was a load as much as I think most of the current FUD against Sony is, but it's out there.

      The industry can be pretty unforgiving. Just look at the gutted corpses that are Sega and Atari and it's not too unreasonable to suggest that if the market perceives them as a failure, they just might actually fail. Sony doesn't have to convince me that they'll do ok, but they do have to convince a lot of other people that they'll be around for the next generation.

    2. Re:Light at the End of the Tunnle by SetupWeasel · · Score: 1

      Katamari just left. Dragon Quest left too. Many of their other past exclusives are going multi-platform. The Wii is outselling the PS3 6:1 month to month in Japan, 4:1 month to month in America. Third parties are scrambling to hedge their bets, because Sony is already a distant third.

      I don't know what you have been reading, but so far Sony is in a nosedive this generation.

    3. Re:Light at the End of the Tunnle by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      Funny that someone else read my post and decided to call me a Sony basher. I just call 'em like I see them.

      Why does everyone seem to assume that if you have something nice to say about a company that you're obviously taking money from them to spread good news about the company?

      Obviously the PS3 and PSP haven't done as well as Sony had hoped, which is why they've obviously cut the price on the PS3 so early in the consoles life cycle.

      I've only been suggesting that they're not as doomed as everyone seems to think they are. There are a lot of people who seem to like to slam the PS3 just because it's made by Sony, the same company involved in the rootkit fiasco. The same goes almost double for Microsoft and a lot of the Xbox 360 hate that gets spread around on Slashdot and other sites like Digg. Just because I'm not joining in the two minutes hate like everyone else doesn't make me a shill.

    4. Re:Light at the End of the Tunnle by MeanderingMind · · Score: 1

      THE PS3 HAS VIRTUALLY THE EXACT SAME LIBRARY OF GAMES AS THE PS2.


      So why buy a PS3 when I can buy a cheaper PS2? I mean, it's the exact same library of games right?

      More seriously, give the PS3 some credit. Not even hardcore gamers want the exact same games they had last generation. Sony showed off some new games that weren't ever in any incarnation on the PS2. Also, realize that even if the PS3's library is analogous to the past the libraries of its competitors aren't.

      It's a mistake to think that what worked yesterday is going to work today. There's a reason why animals like the Panda are endangered and Raccoons flourish. If you don't adapt and broaden horizens you go extinct.
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    5. Re:Light at the End of the Tunnle by ucblockhead · · Score: 1
      One interesting bit is that the Sony still has that massive base of PS2 users. What is underappreciated is that the PS2 is currently outselling not only the PS3, but the XBox 360 as well. What is interesting is that Sony doesn't appear to be in any hurry at all to discontinue the PS2. They even released a new hardware update last month. One thing I've wondered is whether those PS2 sales would have been PS3 sales if Sony had simply discontinued the old console the way Microsoft did with the 360.


      The other difference between Sony and Nintendo is that Sony can carry a losing division for years. Sony can do what Microsoft is still doing, selling a losing console at a significant loss just to stay in the market. The history of the PS3 looks remarkably familiar.


      It is vary likely that if the PS3 hadn't been following the most successful console ever made, it'd not be considered a failure at all.

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    6. Re:Light at the End of the Tunnle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Suck it you fucking little bitch. Sony just made you their bitch with this E3 conference.

      Nah, Sony was all like "Yo, I ain't no crack ass hoe! Y'all is gunna be worshipin' the ground I walk on come this time next year... y'all will see, bitches!"

      and I was all like "Yeah, yo' we see this time next year... as of right now there ain't no mutha fucker buyin' yo tricks - ya nasty bitch"

      and everyone was like "Oh, no he di-int!"

      word

  15. Can Anyone Explain How PS3 Games Look This Good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After reading for whole year about the PS3 and 360 on places like beyond3d I was under the impression that the two systems were about equal in graphics power. After this E3 all that talk turned out to be nothing but fanboy bullshit. Unless Microsoft has some hidden gems they have yet to reveal it's obvious that the PS3 completely destroys the 360 in graphics.

    Can anyone explain how the PS3 is this powerful?

  16. Re:And this is interesting, why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Because world != you. That is all.

  17. 2008 by dunezone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Did anyone else notice that everything that looked amazing had 2008 attached to it? And everything that looked with par with the 360 had 2007 attached to it?

    I mean its great they finally showed off some potential but slapping 2008 on it all doesn't give me much confidence to go out and buy the console today or even this holiday season.

  18. Re:Oh My Fucking God Sony by LWATCDR · · Score: 1, Troll

    If you have a PS3 this is great news well except for that nasty price drop. Ouch.
    Last I heard MGS may not be exclusive to the PS3.
    Until the games are on the market it is all just hype.
    It is still an improvement for Sony.

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  19. Re: NEW PSP has a TV out? by trdrstv · · Score: 1

    Thanks, I was looking for pics. Yeah doesn't look too much thinner to me either, but every little bit helps I guess. The tv-out is... well it probably won't get much use, but its definitely a neat addition.

    Actually I think it's a great idea, however the link in the parent article does say how they do it. The linked Article says:

    "It will also come with the ability to output high-quality video by pressing the display button. This means that movies, games, photos, and all other PSP applications can be output to a TV screen."

    So does this mean there are TV out ports (or a proprietary connector) to the PSP that connects to a TV VIA Composite, component, S-Video... or does it stream content to a PS3 and play on the screen?

  20. Re:WOW by alvinrod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think it gives them some credibility when they talk about their ten year product cycle for the PS3. If the PS2 is still receiving new games and versions of games that aren't showing up on the previous generation consoles of their competitors they can point to this and how they stand behind their product. The fact that the PS2 is outselling all other consoles short of the Wii and still has content being developed for it is amazing considering that we're over a year into the next generation.

    I think you're just muck racking and naysaying, trying to proclaim the death of Sony when you don't have anything of real substance. If you want to suggest that Sony is failing at least offer something more than a shot at the success and continued viability of the PS2 as a platform.

  21. Re:Oh My Fucking God Sony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm interested in becoming a Sony astroturfer, can you tell me how to become one?

  22. No rootkit, but still no Sony love... by Baron+von+Pilsner · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I didn't get the special Sony rootkit software they were offering, but I've had plenty of problems with their products and support (.. if it's still under warranty, why do I have to pay for repairs?)

    I also have no plans to give Sony any money either, what's the opposite of a Sony fanboy?

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    1. Re:No rootkit, but still no Sony love... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      "...what's the opposite of a Sony fanboy?"

      The masses.

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  23. About time.. by EpsCylonB · · Score: 1

    I always said that if they added a tv out i would probably pick one up, the 5g ipod had tv out and was released at the same time. The only argument against a tv out was that it might impact ps2 sales (since a lot of psp games are ps2 ports) but if you have a tv out the psp becomes a fairly high spec portable media machine, thats how most people will use it I think.

  24. Re:Can Anyone Explain How PS3 Games Look This Good by grenz · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Can anyone explain how the PS3 is this powerful?

    Fanboy Goggles. Once you take them off you'll see it differently.

  25. Re:WOW by kaleco · · Score: 0, Redundant

    muck racking and naysaying

    If I could mod you, I would. But would I go for Insightful or Funny?

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  26. UMD: Sony's Universe vs Our Discs by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    Does the new PSP still use the orwellian-named Universal Media Disc", that is compatible with nothing but the original PSP? The UMD for which there is no way for anyone but Sony to burn a disc? Or maybe they've got a miniBlu-Ray, which would be a lot cooler.

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    1. Re:UMD: Sony's Universe vs Our Discs by Kohath · · Score: 1

      Are you actually, really, truly worried about the name?

      If so, maybe write Sony a letter with your concerns (normally, that would be a sarcastic remark from me, but this time it is genuine). It won't get them to change the name, but it might make you feel better.

    2. Re:UMD: Sony's Universe vs Our Discs by Gravatron · · Score: 1
      always thought it was odd people grilled sony over the coals for the UMD, but ignored nintendo and every other portable makers use of locked formats for decades.

      They need to get burners out to developers, but I could care less for one my self. mini-dvd's are cheep and pretty useful. Mini-blu-ray woudl be neat, but i'm not sure it woudl fly, as it woudl be yet another format for movies and such. Once blu-ray gets to the price that cd/dvd's are at, we might see something like that hit.

    3. Re:UMD: Sony's Universe vs Our Discs by grapeape · · Score: 1

      I think most peoples problems with UMD stem from Sony's reluctance to to anything with it. At least with minidisc I could record my own. TV out on the new PSP is a nice start but wouldnt it be nice to have a mini umd player you could hook up to the tv or better yet a UMD recorder. The UMD was presented as a media format for the future but hasnt amounted to much at all. When UMD movies hit, most belived there would be eventually be stand alone players, yes the resolution is low but its better than VHS and good enough for smaller tv's. Dorm Rooms, kids rooms and car video systems are places I could see it blossom. Instead most of the movie companies have dropped UMD completely and the format is mostly dead. Sony's lack of vision with their proprietary standards has bitten it in the ass again.

    4. Re:UMD: Sony's Universe vs Our Discs by Gravatron · · Score: 1

      Movies died on UMD because well, gamers don't buy titles like fried green tomatoes. Toss in the fact no one else built a umd player and it was doomed as a media format.

  27. Re:Can Anyone Explain How PS3 Games Look This Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL, Gotta love these Xbots!!

    "I am 100% right and anyone who disagrees with me is a paid shill."

  28. heyho by apodyopsis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I can hear the 360 brigade and MS fan boys warming up on this thread. whooosh.

    I have a PS3, I got it on day one, I love it, Resistance is a fabulous game.

    Yes there are not as many games, yes it costs more - but for fucks sake it's a blu-ray player! not some piddly DVD player. At the time I got the PS3 I could not get a blu-ray player for that money. I like the machine, the geek in me admires the Cell technology. And I feel that strongly that Sony are getting a rough ride from a bunch a script kiddies and annoying teenagers. There I said it.

    Sony are trying to run a business, not gain a foothold with massive loss making subsidies and oppressive leverage. I'm not saying that what MS is doing is wrong after all they are trying to run a business - but that does not mean I admire them for their business tactics.

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    1. Re:heyho by AP2k · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      And here I am with no mod points....

    2. Re:heyho by ALeavitt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If Sony had wanted to release a game console, they could have done it. Nintendo clearly did. Instead, Sony wanted to release an entertainment unit for the living room. They didn't focus on games, and blu-ray doesn't have enough of a market yet to justify the R&D and advertising behind the PS3. If Sony had just concentrated on getting good games out early in the lifespan of the console they would never be in this mess. Now they need to scramble to get games out before the console completely sinks. It's great that you like your blu-ray player and that you like Resistance, but a generic first-person shooter and a high-def media player aren't enough to compensate for the lack of FUN.

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    3. Re:heyho by cowscows · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm glad that you like your PS3, I'm sure many people who own one have enjoyed it. But even if resistance is a great game, it's only one game, and if Sony wants $500-600 just for the console, then they're going to have to woo me with a large number of great games, or at least a handful of absolutely incredible ones.

      It's also awesome that you're happy with Blu-ray, but there's plenty of evidence both in what people saying and what people are buying that shows that most people aren't particularly compelled by it(nor by HD-DVD). I don't know if it's fair to say I'm angry with Sony for pushing it so hard, but as an individual who has no-use for a Blu-ray player right now, I do think it's kind of disappointing that I'd be required to pay for one in order to play PS3 games.

      Sony is getting a rough ride from all sorts of people, because they created a product that doesn't fit the market as well as they thought, they priced it well beyond what most of the market considered reasonable for a game console, and in all honesty, their executives were kind of dicks about the whole thing whenever they said anything. They fell into the same complacent trap that Nintendo did back in the day, so sure of their dominance that they could push whatever they wanted onto the consumer.

      It took Nintendo a little while to get back on track, but they have, and as a result, we've got some pretty different and interesting gaming systems available. I think that not only has Sony earned some of the ire they've seen, but in the long run it will be good for the gaming industry. Even if the PS3 ends up a failure, I don't think Sony will abandon the industry, they'll hopefully take a fresh look at it, and rebuild their glory days.

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    4. Re:heyho by Kohath · · Score: 1

      It's also a fantastic upscaling DVD player since the last firmware update.

    5. Re:heyho by p0tat03 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      While I agree that the PS3 often gets a hard time from anti-fanboys, I fundamentally disagree with your insinuation that MS has somehow been overly monopolizing in pushing the Xbox and the 360. Let's face it, both Sony and MS have been guilty of making huge subsidies to consumers to try and push their console - this is no secret, so if you're going to string up MS for it, you have to do the same to Sony. As for your accusation of oppressive leverage - where has MS exerted this where no other console manufacturer hasn't?

      I hate to be a Microsoft apologist, but honestly, I think MS won the 360 battle fair and square, there was nothing underhanded about it, which is surprising, given that this is Microsoft we're talking about. Despite all their aggressive tactics in other divisions, this is one battle that MS won by itself.

      Personally, I own a 360, and aside from the obnoxiously loud DVD drive, I can't be happier. I was excited about PS3, but was sorely disappointed after last year's poor E3 showing. I am still disappointed. Despite all the cool technology that the PS3 has packed in that neat little package, there simply aren't any games that make me want the console. MS has already rolled out with GOW, GRAW, Guitar Hero, and a whole slew of must-haves, and will very quickly be following that up with absolutely delicious looking games like BioShock and Mass Effect (not to mention the 500-lb gorilla, Halo). I don't buy a console for the machine or for its CPU, I buy it so I can play games that are released on it. To that end the PS3 has given me no reason to buy it. Besides a very slick looking Killzone and MGS4, there is simply nothing on the PS3 that compels me, and 2 games doesn't cut it to justify a $500 purchase.

    6. Re:heyho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I fail to see what's so "piddly" about DVDs when the Hollywood Video down my street doesn't even rent Blu-Ray.

    7. Re:heyho by Gravatron · · Score: 1
      Nintendo released a game console, which is why they spent most of their conference hyping up a fitness simulator.


      All sony did was show a ton of games and their online Home platform.

    8. Re:heyho by The13thSin · · Score: 1

      There are more fun games out there (for example Stardust HD & Oblivion), but I don't think anyone should argue that the XBOX360 has a better line up at the moment. Offcourse the PS3 is younger, so that counts for some, but it could've been done a lot better. Combine that with piss-poor marketing and you got a so-so year.

      But I'm amazed that any positive news from Sony gets turned into one big "Sony is stupid" fest EVERY time here on Slashdot and other online communities. It almost makes me think I must be weird that I have a PS3, a friend of mine has a XBOX360 and we never argue about which systems better. I watched all the E3 pressconferences live through IGN and wheter it was the best conference ever is very much up for debate, but it's obvious to me and from what I've read online from the people from the industry as well, that Sony made the biggest impression.

      I got very excited about Killzone 2, Lair (both good examples why a DVD-space will not do), Warhawk, Infamous and getting UT3 this year (don't care much about MGS4 personally) and the fact they'd be vastly optimizing the UT3-engine for PS3 so that other games will get better graphics as well.

      That said, I'm sure a lot of XBOX360 owners got excited (and rightly so) by Halo 3 and Mass Effect. And offcourse both "sides" will love to see the cross platform stuff like COD4, RE5 and others. What matters (or should matter) is that both systems will have great games by the end of the year, that will totaly justify putting your money down for either system. I personally like the BluRay movies I bought as well, I know it wowed a lot of friends of mine as well, but if you don't care about such things, that's fine too.

      Enough ranting, let's go back to enjoying our own systems.

      Final note: I really wanted to see more of FFXIII, too bad it wasn't featured. Can't have it all I guess.

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    9. Re:heyho by Dal+Platinum · · Score: 1

      At what point does an FPS become non-generic? I'm truly interested, as this seems to be what any fancamp (wii/360/ps3) says about the FPS's on other consoles.

      As far as consoles go, Resistance is sweet. Good selection of weapons, nice maps, and 40-player online matches, with nearly all the game modes you would need. Availablility of keyboard/mouse is a plus, too.

      Gears was good and looked awesome, the cover system was nice, too. But the tiny maps and 8 player online max really limited it for me.

      Halo3, I'm probably not even going to bother with, the vehicle controls were and are a total nightmare, and the weaponry doesn't realy hold any interest for me. The people I've played it with online are also a major downside for the franchise.

      UT3 I *might* get. I've always liked the weapon set in UT, particularly things like the shock rifle and goo gun. I'll have to see some more screens/details first. I've also done some mapping for UT/UT2k3/4, and being able to play these maps on the PS3 seems like a nice touch.

      Killzone2 looks nice, but I'm not going to get my hopes up.

    10. Re:heyho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't see what's relevant about your comment. We're not talking about the ghetto here.

    11. Re:heyho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is being forced to by a blu-ray player with the PS3 any different than being forced to buy a dvd player with the PS2?

    12. Re:heyho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but as an individual who has no-use for a Blu-ray player right now Typical, remember this is the PS3, so we're looking at a 10 year life cycle as opposed to the 4 year life cycle of Xbox. Do you think in the next 10 years you'll have an HDTV?
    13. Re:heyho by DrXym · · Score: 1
      Yes there are not as many games, yes it costs more - but for fucks sake it's a blu-ray player!

      I think the PS3 is over its games hump. It took a long time coming but since about a month ago the schedule is pretty full and going to get more so.

      People try and pooh pooh the Blu Ray angle but you're right. The PS3 is going to sell because it has a Blu Ray player, as well as being a pretty rounded media system. Once the PS3 gets downloadable movies too it will be a damned good system even if you never touched a game in your life.

      Blu Ray is extremely important for games too. For Sony it means added copy protection. For gamers it means localized and region free gaming as well as more content.

  29. Amazing! by seebs · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sales are up after a price drop!

    So. The real question is this: How much higher will they be a month or so AFTER the price drop?

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    1. Re:Amazing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget, their "price-cut" that's not a price-cut (you couldn't get a PS3 for cheaper than $499 at launch, and that's the same today, you just get more) occured when? In July. The WORST MONTH OF THE YEAR for video game sales. Their increase in sales from the announcement will increase sales - but if they had made the announcement at another time, the increase would have been even bigger. I don't know if it's an attempt to hide the pseudo-cut, or if it's desperation.

    2. Re:Amazing! by Kohath · · Score: 1

      Probably depends on what games are released .

      Why would the people who were only waiting for a price drop wait another week? The price probably isn't going to drop again next week.

      This question reminds me of the Europe launch. There was a lot of hype leading up to the launch. Sony had enough units to meet the demand the first week, so everyone who wanted one was able to buy one. Then the press made a big deal that sales were down 82% the second week, as if the reason was some kind of mystery.

    3. Re:Amazing! by seebs · · Score: 1

      There's a reasonable set of people who were waiting for a price drop (who might have bought at $600 if they'd been SURE there was no price drop coming), or who would have bought at any time for $500, but not for $600. And, of those people, some don't care enough to find out immediately about the price drop... But most of them will have seen PS3's in a store at $500 in a month.

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  30. Sony BMG != Sony Computer Entertainment by Square+Snow+Man · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Title says all, unless you don't know what operator != means.

  31. User generated content by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The thing that excites me as a gamer, is that Sony seems to have embraced the idea of user generated content - from the ability to use user created levels in UT, to being able to create an share user generated levels in Little Big Planet, basically a cushy physics simulator.

    In the link that led to talking about user generated content being less certain on the 360, that's because it would have to go through Live and Microsoft still has not worked out what they want to do there. They may yet also allow substantial user content, they just haven't done so to date with the fervor Sony has.

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    1. Re:User generated content by Emetophobe · · Score: 1

      User created content? Finally! Welcome to 1995 PC Gaming...

    2. Re:User generated content by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      User created content? Finally! Welcome to 1995 PC Gaming...

      No kidding! But you have to admit, it's a huge step forward for consoles to finally be able to take over from PC gaming is all respects. Lack of customization and user mods was always the weakest part of console gaming.

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    3. Re:User generated content by Emetophobe · · Score: 1

      How do you create content on a PS3 is what I want to know...How do you write new mods or create new graphics without PC software?

  32. Re:Can Anyone Explain How PS3 Games Look This Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Right...

    And you've got the evidence to prove the Xbox 360's power:

    * PGR bogus 'photomode pics'
    * Forza bogus 'photomode pics'
    * Gears of War bogus 'in game renderings'
    * Mass Effect bogus 'in game renderings'

    Right fanboy?

    The 360 is a fucking graphical disaster.

  33. Re:Oh My Fucking God Sony by feepness · · Score: 2, Funny

    The utterly insane Killzone footage. The exclusive for PS3 MGS4. The amazing MGS4 trailer with live gameplay coming up soon. Home is looking more and more like the ultimate online system for gamers with the custom spaces for game comapanies, the streaming video, the elegant graphics, the very cool matchmaking and clan stuff. Ratchet and Clank, Lair, Little Big Planet, Folklore, Warhawk, Infamous, SOCOM Absolutely insane lineup. Absolutely insane level of graphics power in the PS3. One of the best E3 conferences ever. I can't figure out if you're a paid astroturfer by Sony trying to make Sony look good or a paid astroturfer by Microsoft trying to make Sony look bad.

    Yes, they had a good show. But keep your frickin' pants on.
  34. Addendum. The KillZone2 Trailer link... by apodyopsis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-exK-gV7yaE oh my. oh my.

    .. And I thought Resistance looked good. Dribble.

    1. Re:Addendum. The KillZone2 Trailer link... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The original killzone also looked great (for a PS2 game). It was worse than a rail shooter -- more like a turret shooter -- you'd just stand in one spot a trench, shoot stuff that ran in front of you, then when you shot a certain amount, the scenery would change a bit and you'd repeat the same. It was seriously not fun.

  35. Re:Oh My Fucking God Sony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Agreed, Sony definitely stole the show, especially after the somewhat lackluster performance from Microsoft and the utter snooze-inducement crappy casual game BS from Nintendo.

  36. MOD Parent Up? by Square+Snow+Man · · Score: 1

    This is just retarded, who is modding this guy flamebait and troll? Talk about abusing your mod points >_>;

  37. Re:Oh My Fucking God Sony by TheJerg · · Score: 2, Informative

    Last I heard MGS may not be exclusive to the PS3.
    So did you actually listen to the folks at the conference say "This game will be PS3 exclusive"? I did. It's the same thing they said last year. Kojima still hasn't released a Metal Gear game for any system not made by Sony or Nintendo. I don't see why he'd change his position now.
  38. Re:WOW by the+dark+hero · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The problem is this too:

    Bash Sony = Mod Up

    Praise Wii = Mod Up

    Baseless comments are getting too much attention. People need to stick to the moderator guidelines or stop modding up groupthink style.

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  39. Re:Oh My Fucking God Sony by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

    "Yeah, poverty sucks. Sorry to hear you're too fucking poor to own the most powerful console. I just drank 100 dollars worth of booze last night. Sorry, clown, I'm not laying awake at night that a console got a price drop."

    You sad, sad little person... I can't help it if you wish to flush money down the tubes. I am sure some PS3 user is not all that happy about Sony saying that there would be no price drop and then hello...

    As far as your bragging about that $100 worth of booze. I am really happy for you. You know people that have real money don't go around trying to impress anybody.
    And as far as fanboy goes...
    Have a nice day.

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  40. Re: NEW PSP has a TV out? by feepness · · Score: 1

    So does this mean there are TV out ports (or a proprietary connector) to the PSP that connects to a TV VIA Composite, component, S-Video... or does it stream content to a PS3 and play on the screen?
    From reading the announcement it LOOKS like the answer is TV out, unless there is an extra PS3 he's not mentioning:

    11:49AM PDT - "You can control what you're seeing, I'll pause it, get rid of the menu, etc. If you want the video back on your PSP, push the display button again and it's back on your PSP. You can play games, videos, show photos, all of that on a tv screen or your PSP. With DLNA, you can also access the files on your PC at home via your PSP. This sparks the imagination, and encourages developers and players alike to think beyond the norm." We envision a bizarre future world where we stream computer video to the PS3 to the PSP over RemotePlay and then video output to a friend's HDTV. Sure, we'll only use this feature once ... but it's cool nevertheless. "As you can see it comes in piano black, but there are some additional colors that are coming to North America, which Jack will show off in a moment." (yes, you can access your PS3 from a remote location using your PSP).
  41. NCsoft? by clragon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I Wonder, why is NCsoft a "heavy backer" for the PS3? So far they've mostly released MMORPGs for the PC...

    1. Re:NCsoft? by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 4, Funny

      I Wonder, why is NCsoft a "heavy backer" for the PS3?

      Perhaps all their staff are morbidly obese?

    2. Re:NCsoft? by ZakuSage · · Score: 1

      They've become second party to Sony, in other words they've basically been bought out.

    3. Re:NCsoft? by jonabbey · · Score: 1

      Because they can port their MMORPG games to the PS3 and re-use their existing server farms, right along their PC clients. On the 360, they'd be required to use XBox Live for all the multiplayer gaming.

    4. Re:NCsoft? by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      Name the previous generation console with 2 MMORPG's: the PS2.

      Name the previous generation console with hordes of RPG fans that any company would love to have paying them 15 bucks a month: the PS2.

      Which system do you think all those RPG fans are going to buy because they can keep playing their huge libraries of PSone and PS2 RPG's.

      The PS3.

    5. Re:NCsoft? by Kohath · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm guessing they want to sell console games. (choices: PS2, Wii, PS3, 360)
      They want to offer games that require a lot of processing power and have HD. (remaining choices: PS3, 360)
      And they want to sell in volume to Asia. (remaining choice: PS3)

  42. MOD PARENT UP +1 insightful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously why is this modded down as troll? This really is Nintendot isn't it.

  43. Re:Oh My Fucking God Sony by sqlrob · · Score: 1

    XBox is made by Sony or Nintendo? News to me.

  44. Killzone 2 by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 1

    I must admit, when I saw the CGI trailer last year I was very skeptical about whether or not they could get anywhere near it.

    It's very rare that I'll watch a trailer for something with my mouth half open. The Transformers trailer and the Killzone 2 trailer had this effect on me.

    I think I've watched it 5 times now and I still don't believe it's realtime, even though it is*

    *it is realtime, isn't it?

    1. Re:Killzone 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      *it is realtime, isn't it?


      Nope. Every trailer released to date is entirely CGI. I know because I've worked on them. Sony is fucked when people see how crappy the current batch of unreleased games are compared to their trailers.


      - cyguy, anonymous sony employee

    2. Re:Killzone 2 by Gravatron · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ah, considering alot of those "unreleased" games were featured in hands on demos to the press the last few months, including KZ2 which was played at E3 in real time, i'd say you more likely work for MS or Nintendo than Sony.

  45. Different meaning of "Universal" by Moraelin · · Score: 1

    It's a different meaning of "universal". It's not "universal" as in "every device ever made will read and write it", but "universal" as in "we can store games _and_ movies on it and god knows what other digital stuff we'll think about later."

    Not saying you should necessarily get one, just clarifying why the name.

    And, no, there's nothing Orwellian about it. Some words simply have more than one meaning, surprising as that may seem. Same, if you will, as F/OSS fans will write all over the place about the difference between "free as in beer" and "free as in speech". That's another word whose meanings aren't even vaguely related to each other.

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    1. Re:Different meaning of "Universal" by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      Actually, free as in beer/speech are closely related, but usually distinct in software licensing. True liberty is also not limited by a selling price. Truly zero-price "sales" are limited by nothing.

      It's the part-way application of each kind of "free" to software licensing that requires careful distinction and frequent disambiguation.

      Likewise, neither "games and movies" nor "works on every device" alone is the meaning of "universal" in storage tech. But the beer/speech distinction is pretty familiar. Sony's UMD is more remarkable that it plays only on a single device, the PSP, than that it can accommodate both games and movies. Because of the limits to which the two senses refer, the single device is a bigger problem. And there are other disc techs that can store movies, games, and other content (eg data, music), like CD, DVD, etc, none of which are touted for their universality. But they're "more" universal (universal is really an aboslute, not a relative, term) than UMD. Hence, Sony's use of "universal" to refer to a format that is most remarkably not universal in either sense is orwellian.

      So I guess the answer is "Sony stuck us again with UMD on the new PSP".

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    2. Re:Different meaning of "Universal" by Moraelin · · Score: 1

      Dude, it's just a trademark.

      And it just says "universal", _not_ "more universal than DVD". And they never claimed it was "more" universal or "completely" universal, that's a straw man of your own.

      And trademarks do that all the time anyway. DVD says it's "versatile", although you could argue it's not "more versatile than anything else". CD says it's "compact", although it's certainly not "the most compact", there certainly are more compact things than that. (UMD for example, or the small disks used by the GameCube.) LP vinyl records say they play a long time, although they do not play longer than anything else (tapes can certainly play longer.) TFT's also contains "thin film", although there are thinner transistors than that. HDTV has "high definition" in the name, although there certainly are higher definition displays available than 1920x1200. Floppy disks never were the floppiest thing imaginable. Hard drives aren't the hardest things imaginable, and in fact most modern ones have glass platters. On a hardness scale, they don't come even close to, say, diamond. FPM RAM called itself "fast page mode", but it wasn't the fastest way imaginable to address the contents. Etc.

      Demanding that it fits all possible interpretations of a word gets sillier even faster. E.g., my "active speakers" don't look very active to me at all, they just sit there on the desk all day. Never seen 'em doing any sports or helping with stuff around the house ;)

      So if not being the absolute superlative of a word in a trademark is "orwellian", congrats, you've just dubbed most of the industry orwellian.

      So I fail to see the logic in splitting hairs about what one word means in a trademark.

      I know it's good for your karma to rant against Sony, but, seriously, it's not like there aren't actually _valid_ complaints against them. God knows they've been acting lately like, well, the corporate equivalent of the village retard running around with pencils up its nose thinking it's an airplane. So, you know, no shortage of stuff to use against them.

      Heck, even complaining that you can't burn UMDs can be very well made on its own, without splitting such irrelevant hairs as what else does a word in the trademark mean.

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  46. Impressive and unimpressive by MeanderingMind · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sony impressed me and also failed to impress me.

    PS3: Impressive. I'm glad to see they're able to showcase a lot of high class games as well as a number that are reaching out to a broader crowd. Things may take off for this system yet, though I doubt its possible for it to gain enough momentum to dominate this generation. It would at least break previous precidents if it did.

    PSP: Unimpressive. I feel like Sony is trying to copy the DS Lite without understanding why the DS Lite did well. The DS Phat's key dimensional problem was its depth. There were a number of pockets incapable of holding one, and to boot it was relatively heavy. The DS Lite improved on all of these, while looking simultaneously much sleeker. The new PSP is hard to distinguish from its predecessor, which was sleek to begin with. I'll be very surprised is this causes any long-term changes in PSP sales.

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    1. Re:Impressive and unimpressive by viniosity · · Score: 2, Interesting

      More to the point, it's hard to see where this would cause many people who have a PSP to upgrade. This is one area where Apple, for instance, excels. They may not have great market share but they do a fantastic job at getting people to buy replacement laptops, ipods, and just about anything else they put out because the next gen always has some killer thing the previous gen did not. With the PSP we got something thinner with better battery life (good) and video out (very good). I would liked to have seen some improvements with:

      -- Wireless (is it still 802.11b?)
      -- Memory Stick capacity (are we still stuck at 4GB max?)
      -- Built-in GPS or camera. (nothing here..)
      -- Bluetooth (so I could connect via mobile phone or use ad2p headphones)

      But sadly, I didn't see any of these. I'm left with a moderately useful PSP with no little to carry it around and hence no reason to test the battery life.

    2. Re:Impressive and unimpressive by ZakuSage · · Score: 1

      Memory Stick capacity currently tops out at 8GB, and with new tech it's rising all the time. And honestly, if you're finding your PSP to be dead weight, pick up a copy of Lumines and use a new exploit to get new life out of your console.

  47. Re:Oh My Fucking God Sony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mate - why do you reply to your own posts? It just looks like you're trying to give the impression of people agreeing with your fan-boi ravings.

    Nintendo are going to go HUGE with the Wii-fitness thing - mark my words, its going to be insane the number of consoles they sell on the back of that.

  48. The real point of the PSP by darkhitman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Recently, I've found that the real value of the PSP is in its non-UMD power.... namely, being able to emulate the NES, the Playstation and everything inbetween :P

    The movie thing is cool too, I guess... but emulating actually good games makes up for the lack of such titles in UMD format.

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    1. Re:The real point of the PSP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is this lack of games I keep hearing about... Vice City Stories, Valkyrie Profile, Final Fantasy 1, 2, and Tactics, Metal Gear Acid 1/2/Portable Ops, Loco Roco, Luminies or w/e 1 and 2. God of war, thats more games then I own for my PSP... what exactly do you want? Some in that list aren't out yet, but I'm hardly bored with the games on my PSP. I own more games on my PSP then on my DS!

    2. Re:The real point of the PSP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yep

      I even ported linux to it: http://df38.dot5hosting.com/~remember/chris

  49. Re:Can Anyone Explain How PS3 Games Look This Good by jonabbey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The first and more important fact is that the hardware is powerful enough on both the 360 and the PS3 that you can get more payback for good artistic direction and heavy technical investment than ever before. The 360 and the PS3 will both respond very nicely to extravagantly expensive development budgets, and the skill of the developers and artists working on the average game will probably make much more difference in the quality of the results than any differences between the hardware will.

    That said, and while the 360's graphics chip is probably superior to the PS3's, the PS3 was designed to have the Cell and RSX working together in a very close fashion. Killzone 2 is being developed with a deferred renderer, in which the Cell can overlay lighting calculations on top of the rendered polygons, rather than having all of that be always done with the RSX. Lair is using the Cell to do dynamic winnowing down of the in-game geometry to present only the essential data to RSX, while continuing to animate everything with high fidelity. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune is using Cell to do very ambitious dynamic animation blending on the main characters.

    Between Cell and RSX, you can do awful lot on PS3, but you have to develop the games for it, and the kind of distributed programming required to harness 8 distributed processing cores (1 PPU, 6 SPU, 1 RSX) takes a lot of time and money to do, and straightforward ports from 360-style DirectX games won't necessarily show what the PS3 can really do to best advantage.

    The PS3 has another advantage with the Blu-Ray disc, as it has over 5 times more on-disc storage than the 360 has (though at the cost of a reduced maximum transfer speed). That can help allow for more extravagant level budgets, especially in titles that support streaming audio and graphics loading.

    The bottom line is, we've not begun to see the best of what either the 360 or the PS3 will be capable of. The good news is that Sony is making a big enough push that they might get enough purchasers of their console that the budgets will have a chance to continue to be there to make these amazing games.

  50. Re:Oh My Fucking God Sony by sqlrob · · Score: 1

    It's a good start. Still not enough for a $499 (minimum) system.

  51. Re:And this is interesting, why? by Kohath · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because Slashdot isn't written for you personally. Rather it's for a whole lot of people in addition to you. And they don't all have precisely the same opinions as you. Nor are they obligated to choose as you have.

    Some people besides you won't let one incident in the past, an incident that maybe didn't even affect them directly, decide their entire future from that day forward. Perhaps you want every single one of the hundreds of thousands of people who work for Sony (and Sony-BMG and presumably Sony-Ericsson) to lose their jobs for one bad decision of a few record company losers. But not everyone does.

  52. Welp by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 1

    They still haven't shown me any games that compel me to purchase one. There's a bunch of "well that looks cool, if I owned a PS3" but nothing to motivate me to go out and spend $500+tax on one. Maybe, like the 360, one of my roommates will be compelled to pick one up. Even Metal Gear I can wait on the system hitting $300 and the game going budget/cross platform for.

    I will own a PS3 eventually(only console of a generation I *haven't* owned is an original XBox), and I plan on picking up the titles that fit that criteria as I see them, but... meh.

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    1. Re:Welp by MemoryDragon · · Score: 1

      Same here some of the graphics were jawdropping, but, they showed 10 shooters
      3 racing games, and 2 pseudo rpgs which just were remodeled shooters.

      The interesting games were the next Metal Gear solid (which is a sneaker shooter so speaking of shooters....)
      and the puzzle game which used 80s non filled vectors graphics.

      After the presentation I thought, all the graphics were jawdropping but the console simply fails miserably on the gameplay side of things. Playstation sequel syndrome!

      But kudos to Sony they really made a good presentation while Nintendos was not even mildly interesting.

    2. Re:Welp by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 1

      Well, the Nintendo conference wasn't bad... it's just way disappointing compared to every other year. Wii Fit was pretty interesting(not from a gamer/enthuisiast standpoint, more from a my god Nintendo is going to sell millions of these things[If Richard Simmons can become a wealthy celebrity off of home fitness videos...]), and dating all of their main franchises for this year was good news, and well, that was about it. No big announcements... nothing really. Too many numbers, figures, charts. Yea, yea, E3 is for retailers, buyers like that kind of stuff, whatever, it's boring.

      Sony used to do that number crap too, but I guess they couldn't this year since there's not a lot of positive stuff to talk about. Consequently, Sony put on a much better show. I'd say the best show.

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  53. Not all. by Mark+Gillespie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sure the big hitters (and PS3 exclusives) MGS4 and Killzone2 are 2008, but there are big hitters were not shown, that will be the bread and butter until then.

    Unreal Tournement (PS3 timed Exclusive till late 2008)
    Haze (PS3 exclusive)
    Ratchet And Clank Tools Of Destruction(PS3 exclusive)
    Warhawk(PS3 exclusive)
    Drakes Fortune(PS3 exclusive)
    Lair(PS3 exclusive)
    GT5 Prologue(PS3 exclusive)

    In addition, you have GTA IV to keep you happy until then..
    I'm sure there are plenty more that I forgot, either way, that list is releases between now and Xmas..

    1. Re:Not all. by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 1

      None of those matter unless you already own a PS3. The only thing they did that is going to help their sales figures is the $100 price-drop / upgrade.

      This was like a pre-2006 Nintendo conference. Plenty to keep the faithful happy, a few things to push people on the fence, but nothing to convert the doubters or the masses.

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  54. Re:And this is interesting, why? by VENONA · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    That ain't even remotely all. At the time, droves of Slashdotters were swearing to do the Right Thing. Teh Eveil Sony are R00t3d we! Many of us, who are a bit older, with perhaps a bit better judgment of human nature (or just more cynical--your call) laughed, and wondered how long that would last. Not so very much later, it's a non-issue. It's just expected that any boycott would be gone, in the frenzy for the next console. An AC gets an 'Insightful' just for saying what everyone knows anyway.

    Sorry to disagree, folks, but if you've sold out so readily, it's pretty easy to see how you can be lead around by the nose. Who to vote for ("You can run, but you can't hide," to thunderous applause), what movies to watch, buying the latest Harry Potter POS book, clicking on Paris Hilton links, imagining that CNN delivers unbiased news, etc.

    And Slashdot folk often think they are some sort of intellectual elite. Can you say, "Sheeple?" It's not even a matter of not being able to think for yourselves. Most can, and sometimes do. The problem is more along the lines of doing the Right Thing, which generally *won't* be done if it's any more than slightly inconvenient.

    Why the world is such a mess isn't such a source of great wonder to the old and cynical. There's certainly little hope of anything like a majority putting themselves out so far as to form an intelligent conclusion on who to *vote* for. Jingoism and a herd mentality is so much easier for sheeple.

    The 10% (Sturgeon was dead-on) I've conversed with, or who's posts I've read here, who represent the thoughtful and honorable, I salute. I've sometimes disagreed, and sometimes argued vehemently, but *damn* you folks are rare, and should be appreciated. The other 90%, such as the AC I'm responding to? A steaming pile of generic humanity. Primates who haven't evolved nearly so far as they imagine, if they even *accept* evolution.

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  55. Re:Can Anyone Explain How PS3 Games Look This Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you should actually try gears of war on a 360. If you call it a fucking graphical disaster, you need an eye exam.

  56. Re:WOW by jaysones · · Score: 1

    No, no, you've got it all wrong! It's: Praise Sony = Mod Down Bash Wii = Mod Down

  57. It's not a /new/ PSP by Senjutsu · · Score: 1

    So I guess the answer is "Sony stuck us again with UMD on the new PSP". It's the exact same hardware we already have, in a slightly more svelte form-factor. Why in the flying fuck would you possibly think they would throw out the UMD format, and with it the ability to play all the games that have already been released for the PSP?

    Sony has designs on making money, and consumers sure as hell aren't stupid enough to buy the same machine with no compatibility with all the games already out for the platform. Presumably anyone capable of working a keyboard ought to be able to apprehend these blindingly obvious concepts, but apparently not.
    1. Re:It's not a /new/ PSP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Few people want UMD when you can buy generic SD cartridges memory are dirt cheap and can be used on a multitude of other devices. Replace UMD with a regular standard memory and I'd buy a PSP immediately, even though I have an NDS. And I'm not alone.

    2. Re:It's not a /new/ PSP by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      Sony could make more money if it included a drive that reads both old UMD and new Blu-Ray or just cheap, but compatible, CD or DVD discs. You know, compatible with the rest of their products.

      But I guess you're just too fucking stupid to think of something obvious like that. Did you also notice that Sony isn't asking your worthless opinion?

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    3. Re:It's not a /new/ PSP by LKM · · Score: 1

      Sony could make more money if it included a drive that reads (...) Blu-Ray or just cheap, but compatible, CD or DVD discs.

      Do you realize how small the PSP is and how big a Blu-Ray disc is?

    4. Re:It's not a /new/ PSP by LKM · · Score: 1

      What part of "games come on UMD" do you not understand? Sony can not get rid of UMD until they replace the PSP with a new portable platform.

    5. Re:It's not a /new/ PSP by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1
      Do you realize that you're entering an argument right after I bitchslapped a whiner?

      Upthread I said

      maybe they've got a miniBlu-Ray


      A PSP with a 10GB miniBlu-Ray drive would be good, if the PS3 could play those discs, too.
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    6. Re:It's not a /new/ PSP by LKM · · Score: 1

      Wait, your argument is that Sony should create a new mini-blu-ray format? And probably mini-DVD, too. What the hell good would that do??? That would be absolutely useless since you couldn't actually play anything on it. The UMD format already is a kind of mini-DVD. And you want them to add yet another proprietary format??? I don't get it.

  58. The point of Blu-Ray by Tony · · Score: 1

    The point of the Blu-Ray included in the PS3 isn't so much for the movies (though that's good, too)-- it's about game content. Today's games often fill up a DVD, and now that HD games are coming out, the Blu-Ray disc allows for better textures, larger game levels, and just all-around more content.

    PS3 games will be able to take advantage of greater capacity discs, a hard drive for streaming textures (making game levels bigger and better), and so on.

    The fact it'll play Blu-Ray movies is almost secondary.

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    1. Re:The point of Blu-Ray by nschubach · · Score: 1

      But... but... compression, and adaptive generation!!

      OMG! They will save the world cause they don't cost anything and the Xenon can do it for free!

      (*slap*) Oh, sorry about that. I was taken over for a second by this evil Vista preloaded laptop sitting on the desk next to me.

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    2. Re:The point of Blu-Ray by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 1

      The drive is too slow for that. The 360s normal run of the mill DVD drive feeds data to the 360 faster than the Blu-Ray drive in the PS3 can feed the PS3. You get more storage, but it's *slower*. To transfer a whole disc worth of textures to an HDD would take *hours*. So, it's all a compromise. You can have more levels per disc, more textures, but the transfer rate is going to kill you if you want larger streaming levels with larger textures without transfering to a faster HDD. And HD performance isn't exactly excellent or we wouldn't have SANs. If you want more/higher detailed textures per scene, you want the bandwidth provided by a DVD drive. If you want more level/texture variety or if you want bigger levels(depending upon how you can lay things out) but lower quality/less textures per scene you want Blu-ray. You can also have way more FMV.

      And that's not even getting into the costs and how batshit insane you'd have to be to actually fill a blu-ray disc with content given how pathetic the PS3 is doing. Right now, all that extra space is really being used for is duplicating data to improve load times.

      I don't think Blu-ray is a huge advantage in regards to gaming. If anything it washes out to an advantage, but not a huge one.

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    3. Re:The point of Blu-Ray by feepness · · Score: 1

      To transfer a whole disc worth of textures to an HDD would take *hours*

      25,000MB / 9MB/sec = 2,777 sec = 46 minutes to read every byte on the disk.

      The rest of your post is equally inane.

    4. Re:The point of Blu-Ray by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 1

      Uhh, that link says exactly what I said. The drive is slow. Thank you for proving what I said with a fine link. But hey, refering to a just over 1 1/2 hour transfer time for a double-layer+ BD-ROM as *hours* makes the whole thing inane.

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    5. Re:The point of Blu-Ray by feepness · · Score: 1

      Hours is incredibly misleading, to the point of being a lie. It's also a useless fact since you'd never do this.

      I also never said the drive was fast... it's about the speed of a DVD drive, which is what the ubiquitous hard-drive is for.

      Or let's look at it this way: You could fill the entire memory (512MB) From the disk in 512MB / 9MB / sec = 57 second maximum load time. Of course any programmer worth his salt would be able to do better than that using the HDD.

      Or let's look at it this way: You could just buy a PS3 and find out for yourself that load times are irrelevant on the dozens of games available.

    6. Re:The point of Blu-Ray by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 1

      It would be called hyperbole, it would've been more accurate to say that the 360s DVD drive can stream the same amount of data to it's internals in a little over half the time. If I implied that the PS3 has absurdly long load times, that wasn't my intention, we were as far as I know, discussing blu-rays impact on game content. Compared to the PS2 ALL of the next-gen(and last-gen for that matter) consoles are blazingly fast loaders.

      You have to transfer that data to the hdd before you can stream it from the HDD, and the HDD's bandwidth is limited by bottlenecks inside the system(as well as the HDD itself, if the default HDD can saturate SATA1 transfer rates I'd be really surprised), the textures per scene are further limited by the amount of RAM available and the speed of the RSX. Those bottlenecks, and the slow speed of the BD drive combine to present EXACTLY the scenario I described. If you want the HDD's extra transfer speed, you have to have that content on the HDD, which means if you wanted to cache 50GB of data(blu-ray double-layer capacity), you'd be looking at *hours*, oops, sorry, an hour and a half of total time to cache it. I'm sure creative programmers will find ways to maximize what they can do with the added storage, but I do not see the scenario the person I was replying to envisioned.

      To reiterate: You will not see more textures or larger textures per scene on the PS3 versus the 360 because of the blu-ray drive. You will see the added storage used to reduce load times by redundantly laying out data on the disc and reducing seeks(although this is probably closer to a wash). You will possibly see more textures per game and/or larger textures per game, but not PER SCENE. You have the possibility of more levels and bigger levels(depending upon how creative devs can get, there are probably trade-offs). You will have the possibility of far more HD FMV. You won't have to swap discs. Blu-ray washes out to an advantage but not some huge advantage.

      What part of that do you disagree with? That blu-ray is an advantage but not a huge advantage? That this is all academic because no one is going to fill 25-50GB of disc space versus a few DVDs because the PS3 doesn't have the market to justify the cost?

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    7. Re:The point of Blu-Ray by feepness · · Score: 1

      You know, the funny part is that I agree with your premise because of the limited memory size, not the disc size. The disc size allows larger levels, blah blah whatever. But textures on a given frame can only be fit into memory which is equal on the PS3/360 (and that is what they should of put more into on the PS3 for the price).

      But really, drop your stuff about the drive speed or anything else. It really makes no sense. You can get far more mileage out of pointing out the memory size. The speed of the BD-ROM is entirely irrelevant except to slow down load times which at the end of the day are not in the top three concerns of the average player.

  59. Small screens are better on planes by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    ...and the small ass screen you have to watch it on...

    After many years of flying, I have come to realize that a small screen is actually better than a laptop screen.

    * How easy is it to use your laptop screen in cramped seating when the front seat goes back?
    * How annoying is it to the people sitting next to you, to have a giant glowing screen?
    * When you get where you are going, you have to worry about leaving your laptop behind in the hotel room.

    I still take my laptop on flights but I don't usually get it out anymore. I just bought an iPhone, and frankly I think that screen size and resolution will be about perfect - but from accounts the PSP probably is also a perfect form factor for airline movie watching as well.

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  60. Re:Oh My Fucking God Sony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think he might be this guy.

  61. Re:WOW by rbanffy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's just you.

    The PS2 continues to sell extremely well and continues to be a major revenue driver.

    You don't really want to have the most GFLOPS/polygons/texels per second videogame. What you want is to have the most profitable one.

  62. Re:WOW by rbanffy · · Score: 1

    I would like to add:

    "after all, this is not Digg."

  63. no 802.11g ?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know they have plans to provide better integration of PSN services, including streaming content from the PS3 to the PSP, but it does not make sense for them to keep the 802.11b chip in the upgraded PSP and elegantly support the integration they/we desire.

  64. Re:WOW by nschubach · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh yeah? Well I can't wait to get an XBox 1 this year. There are so many awesome things happening for the young system.

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  65. Re:Oh My Fucking God Sony by nschubach · · Score: 1

    Waaait a sec! Nobody said anything about having to wear pants!

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  66. Re:Can Anyone Explain How PS3 Games Look This Good by nschubach · · Score: 1

    Sometimes I wish that posts could get so many mod points that they go above 5...

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  67. Re:WOW by suv4x4 · · Score: 1

    I think it gives them some credibility when they talk about their ten year product cycle for the PS3. If the PS2 is still receiving new games and versions of games that aren't showing up on the previous generation consoles of their competitors they can point to this and how they stand behind their product. The fact that the PS2 is outselling all other consoles short of the Wii and still has content being developed for it is amazing considering that we're over a year into the next generation.

    The reason for new games on PS2 are the same reason it's taking so long to find any good games on PS3: ubiquity.

    Since PS3 isn't selling half as well right now I wouldn't extrapolate your findings to PS3 just yet. Of course I'd rather give them some 1-2 years more to develop their market, but I still believe PS3 will stand behind XBOX and Wii in sheer number of consoles sold.

    You see, developers may have some preference regarding consoles that are more powerful, or easier to program for, but their bosses don't. Their bosses care: if I make game for console X, what's my potential market.

    I could go in my garage and built the bestestest console ever in the world with 50 cores, 64 gig RAM and make it cost $10. If no one else has it, everything else is irrelevant, EA won't port games for my console.

  68. Re:WOW by suv4x4 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Baseless comments are getting too much attention. People need to stick to the moderator guidelines or stop modding up groupthink style.

    I hope you realize the irony of the situation... You were modded up since it's now part of the groupthink to mod up groupthink criticism.

  69. Microsoft won't for security reasons by Myria · · Score: 1

    Microsoft's extremism in console security trumps any such wish for user-generated content. Microsoft knows that if user-generated content is allowed, it won't be long before someone finds a bug in a game and exploits it to run Linux. After all, this happened repeatedly on Xbox, and on 360's King Kong, even without true user-generated content.

    Sony doesn't really have this problem. The system is already hacked, and it ran Linux to begin with. They couldn't keep up with such exploits on PSP.

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  70. How it looks on a TV by jtull89 · · Score: 1

    PSP graphics are impressive on a small screen, but will it look good on a TV? I suspect that it wouldn't, but I don't know what Sony is planning here. I seem to recall the Game Boy Advance games looking good on TV's (via Game Boy Player), though all I've seen of that are Internet videos. Does anyone have more info?

    1. Re:How it looks on a TV by MemoryDragon · · Score: 1

      Well it probably will depend on the TV on a normal tube you will get graphics probably very similar to the Wii (the psp is slightly more powerful than the PS2 graphicswise) on a big screen lcd you will get the same blurry image as on a wii or ps2

  71. MOD PARENT DOWN -1 Troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MOD PARENT DOWN -1 Troll

  72. Re:Oh My Fucking God Sony by MemoryDragon · · Score: 1

    The main problem I had was while the graphics really were amazing, there was almost no game I even was mildly interested in. I counted 10-11 shooter 9 of them first person 2 third person, 2 wannabe rpgs which in fact were just third person fighters. Ratched and Clank was interesting though, MGS4 also (because I have not played the other parts) and then the most interesting thing was the puzzle game with the 80s style vector only graphics. Anyway Sony did it right this year, while Nintendo was somewhat of a letdown. But the sony lineup definitely is not a reason to shell out 900USD (that is the price in Europe) for a PS3!!! For that price I can get a decent gaming PC!

  73. Re:WOW by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

    "Baseless comments are getting too much attention. People need to stick to the moderator guidelines or stop modding up groupthink style."

    If this were any other topic, I'd wholeheartedly agree. However, what makes this case interesting is Sony themselves have poo-poo'd the competition in similar fashion, and now their potential customers are following their example. I really don't care for the sheople moderation Slashdot is known for, but hopefully one day Sony will wake up and see that the bad PR they have is of their own doing. Once they sort that out, maybe we'll actually see innovation from their camp.

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  74. self-fulfilling prophecy by LKM · · Score: 1

    Baseless comments are getting too much attention.

    (Score:5, Insightful)

    I guess you're right.

  75. chadwardnnn, that you? by LKM · · Score: 1

    Oh my god, it's the ps triple guy, on Slashdot!

  76. Re:Oh My Fucking God Sony by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

    Yeah but announcing Wii Fit at the E3 was probably not the best move. Only regular gamers follow E3 coverage while Wii Fit seems geared at the audiences that wouldn't even know what E3 is.

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  77. Re:WOW by donaldm · · Score: 1

    If you would like to compare the next gen game machines relative to each other look at the following: http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=X360&reg1=Al l&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=Wii&reg3=All&align=1. In case you are not interested the PS3 and Xbox360 actually match up in sales while the Nintendo Wii is 2.5 times higher.

    Looks like the Wii is killing the market but I would be very interested in how does this translate to game sales after all if you sell a lot of consoles then providing you make a profit and Nintendo does then this is good for the console manufacturer. What really makes profits for the console manufacturer are games, merchandising and add-ons and plenty of sales, however most games successes have been in the order of only a few million. With regard to the casual gamer who seem to be the predominate ones who purchase the Wii are they people who only pay for a few party games or do they eventually convert to a more dedicated gamer? The PS3 and Xbox360 gamers are more dedicated and will most likely purchase a variety of games. For most game producers this knowledge is absolutely vital if they are to profit from their games if not then they will not produce games for a console they can not make a profit on their game sales.

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  78. Re:Oh My Fucking God Sony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I own a PS3, and that price drop is good news for me. Why? Sure, I could have bought later and maybe gotten that $100 off, but that's a little more than a day's work for me there (including taxes), and I've gotten more than a day's worth of enjoyment out of it already. That's why it isn't bad news.

    Why it's good news is it means more people might buy, which means larger installed base, which means more games and more support and so on and so forth. Price drops only help me.

  79. Re:Oh My Fucking God Sony by bickle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    E3 isn't for hardcore gamers or even casual gamers. It's for industry people. Retailers want to know what will be hot so they can know what to order. Wii Fit was unveiled to continue generating interest in the system and games with retailers and industry, not so that gamers will drool over the system.

  80. Re:WOW by benzapp · · Score: 1

    I think it's also important to note how well the PS3 handles PS2 games now with the latest firmware. They look great on a modern 1080p HDTV, considering they are at such a lower resolution. I think the upscaled PS2 content on the PS3 looks better than the Wii.

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  81. Re:Oh My Fucking God Sony by steveo777 · · Score: 1
    Maybe on Digg or fark, but here we like to keep things professional... Khakis and collars.

    Right... Que the "you must be new here" brigade.

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  82. Re:And this is interesting, why? by tb()ne · · Score: 1

    And Slashdot folk often think they are some sort of intellectual elite.

    Yes, you have demonstrated that in spades.

  83. Re:Oh My Fucking God Sony by SethraLavode · · Score: 1

    They covered Wii Fit at the very end of their conference so it would make the mainstream media and spur the major retailers into pushing it.

    The entire conference up to that point was all about the regular gamers. Nintendo confirmed and dated three major releases (Metroid, Mario Galaxies, and Super Smash Brothers Brawl) for this year, and announced that a fourth would be out early next year. That's the big news for gamers.

  84. Re:Oh My Fucking God Sony by SethraLavode · · Score: 1

    Technically, the very first Metal Gear was released on the MSX, which was a Microsoft-directed PC standard (sort of a predecessor to the 3D0).

  85. 3.40-OE FTW!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    - have two PSPs... just used the recent Lumines exploit to downgrade one of 'em to 1.50, then upgrade to 3.40-OE... thanks to the hacked firmware, i can now use my PSP to read .PDFs and control my TV using the (commercially useless) iR port! (many PSP hardware features are not available from ANY commercial software, and Sony controls ALL optical media production!!!)

    - for those that don't know: Sony has been playing cat-and-mouse upgrades with hackers offering exploits to take advantage of homebrew apps on the PSP... IOW, Sony's official upgrades are nothing more than patches to disable the ability of folks to get more functionality out of the units...

    - even more insidious is that Sony now releases 'upgrades' that won't upgrade any PSP recognized to be patched, and all new games REQUIRE upgraded systems!

    - talk about shooting yourself in the foot!

    - anyhow, i like my PSP... i use it to:

    1. watch downloaded movies or DVDs ripped using John the Ripper and Handbrake (google has lots of videos, but you have to sort through the YouTube cruft - what a waste!)

    2. listen to .mp3s from my laptop using RSS

    3. watch slide shows of images using RSS

    4. read .pdf books using homebrew software

    5. read more than 30,000 books via http using a Gutenberg DVD on my laptop (html)

    6. control my TV using the homebrew iRShell application

    7. take pictures and movies using the (as-yet non-U.S. marketed) Chotto Shot USB camera attachment (about $60 from any various importers out of Los Angeles)

    8. store documents or other important data (backup pics/scans)

    9. oh, and play games - many in Flash, but some off the UMD (optical drive)...

  86. well glad i got the extended warrenty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    looks like my psp is gonna break so i can get one of the new ones.

  87. Re:WOW by the+dark+hero · · Score: 1

    40% Insightful

    40% Underrated

    20% Redundant

    (Score:5, Insightful)

    apparently not all is as i seems! *cue dramatic music*

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  88. Re:WOW by soupd · · Score: 1

    You see, developers may have some preference regarding consoles that are more powerful, or easier to program for, but their bosses don't. Their bosses care: if I make game for console X, what's my potential market.

    This is a short-sighted view. It's going to take developers several years to learn to tap into the quirks of RSX and power of Cell in the PS3, probably more so than the 360 which has more conventional architecture and components. I doubt Insomniac made much, if anything, on Resistance but they've learned a lot about the PS3 and are banking on the PS3 being a long-term profitable platform.

    Now three-to-four years down the line, the PS3 booms and those developers who overlooked the PS3 in favor of the [then] better-selling Wii and 360, step into the PS3 development, they may well be one or even two generations of software development behind those who got in on the ground floor and find it hard to compete.

    Of course this may not happen, but this is the gamble that early-adopter developers like Insomniac (Resistance) and Ninja Theory (Heavenly Sword) have taken on the PS3. Both are third-party, neither are bankrolled by Sony but both obviously trust that Sony will pull off the hat trick and make the PS3 a viable, profitable platform longterm. The 360 may look safer but Redmond have still to turn a profit and they dumped the Xbox after a mere four years. Microsoft are habitual platform/project/partner droppers when things don't work out or fit in their business plans.
  89. Little Big Planet by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I think UT for the PS3 only allows you to play PC created mods, not create them on the PS3.

    But the PS3 title Little Big Planet has a whole object and level creation component, that you obviously store on the HD (which all PS3 models have) and then can transfer up to the PSN network to share with others. At least, that is what they have said in interviews on the matter. They had a lengthy demo of the creation tools at this years E3.

    You can also import any pictures or even video you like to use in the levels you create (so you would edit those components on a PC first, or directly import them from a camera). Since the PS3 has a kind of media import extender, and supports standard USB external storage, it's pretty easy to get stuff into or out of the system.

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  90. Re:And this is interesting, why? by VENONA · · Score: 1

    OK, assume that I've no clue--not a great stretch for you, right? In the last couple of presidential elections, there was at least some assumption that the youth vote would turn out, and stake out a firm position. Didn't happen. Much railing against Bush on /. but no turnout, from a historical perspective.

    In the end, the youth vote simply didn't count, either for or against. Sorry, but I stand by my opinion. Slashdotters (I'm thinking of Slashdotters as a relatively youthful population, compared to the general populace) are great at spouting off, but they are far less great at actually accepting any hardship, whether that be a boycot, or simply voting.

    Predominantly a bunch of lamers in search of whatever they can get for free, no sense of responsibility, and an inflated sense of self-importance. They damned sure make much of an effort to look at the real issues. RTFA is famously too much trouble for these general lamers.

    OK, that's more flamebait. At this point, you could repeat your last post, with some justification. I'm cool with that. I mostly lurk here, and just generally observe the human condition. This ID is only the latest in a long string. It's just a /. ID, after all.

    My post wasn't about intellectual arguments. The only people that I have to prove my intellect to are the people that *pay* me to be bright. You don't, so your opinion is irrelevant in that respect. The post was about whether a willingness to take a stand exists within the general Slashdot populace. If history is any guide, vendors of game consoles will win. Sony can do whatever they'd like 'root kit' be damned. Major US news media companies will continue to deliver eyeballs to advertisers, vice information that might be, let's say, *helpful to voters*.

    Examples:
    a) Terrorism is far less likely to kill you than a bee sting, and we shouldn't sacrifice freedoms for it.
    b) Bill Clinton was the guy that approved developing the bunker-buster nuke--a singularly bad idea.
    c) The current administration has a horrible track record of distorting science.

    OK, mod me down. It's nearly time to ditch this ID anyway, so that's irrelevant as well. But think. Find some better news sources. Perhaps when Iraq 'benchmark' news broke, it would have been better to avoid commentary from the eyeball-delivering spin-meisters here in the US, and get it in tabular form from the BBC. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6294694.stm

    Oh, wait. That would involve people thinking, weighing importance, and forming conclusions. That would have seriously detracting from the latest Harry Potter, Transformers, Beckham and Posh Spice making their royal entrance in Los Angeles, etc. We all get what the least common denominator deserves.

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