Fido-net style....... aha,.... yes we are on the same page again. Had to go back in memory for that one.:-) however yes you could do this. It would mean building a lot of things however nothing is holding you back from building such a thing. You will have to maybe even create your own handsets (or new software for it) however it can be done with enough time (and $).;-) tell me when you are done:-)
Some information is given on the costs during the talk, you can find links to the video archive of the talks at https://wiki.har2009.org/page/Media
some of the pages are currently down I think because the event network is down however servers should be on the move back to the datacenter. Some of the links are currenlty working so you can already have a peak.
As promised in my previous post I would give the idea some more thoughts. Forking MySQL Debian support might not be such a bad idea. MySQL is giving up support on Debian and thereby leaving open the possibilities for this to the community.
The opensource community has proven in the past that they are quite capable of handling things like this. I might even be an idea for a small startup (profit or non-profit) I will post some more info about my idea around this on in this discussion and on my weblog http://johanlouwers.blogspot.com/
Mmm fork MySQL? Why? There is nothing wrong with the code. You could try to fork the support and start a company specialized in MySQL support on Debian.....
I think there is a market for this. The only thing you need is a couple of good people. You/we(the community) could also create a company GPL style. Create a pool of people willing to devote there time on solving MySQL Debian support problems. Create a ticket like system and assign questions to people in the pool.
This way you can quickly create a non-profit company with little to non investments. The biggest "problem" is that you have to attract people willing to become part of you expert pool.
While writing this, it might even be a good challenge to start this..... I will think some more about this.:-) Anyone in?;-)
Nick, Let me be honest with you, I also started around the age of 17 with my first job in IT. This was however some years ago...;-) "Where have the days gone?". I did not have any university background, which is not so strange on a age of 17. However I did a lot of things just from my home computer. That was giving me a head start when I applied for my first job.
A little advise to you, be honest, and just tell them you did not have a job in IT before but that you are more than average keen on learning new stuff. Looking at the fact that you are reading and posting on this website is already giving something away about your interest in IT.
However, the market has settle a little at this moment and the crazy days are mostly gone now. So do not expect to be given a very good paying job at your first interview. The days you could walk in to the office of a IT company, ask for some manager to talk to and offer your service and be able to start working there in less than a hour,.... those days are over.
But,... there is still enough to find even for people of the age of 17. And I am not talking about selling iPod's;-). In a previous company I myself even hired some guys from the age of 16 and 17 who liked to come to work during the summer period and they turned out to be quite good. Just go on to the web and select some interesting companies that are close to your home and just give them a call. Do not ask for the HR department but just ask for the head of IT. Explain you "problem" and ask him for a job or to offer you an internship.
Remember, not only big IT companies have interesting IT departments, also smaller companies who have nothing to do with IT as a "product" or service they sell have a IT department. And a lot of those smaller and not IT companies have very interesting IT departments.
The best thing however is to try and get a job or internship at some IT department on a university. They can learn you a lot, the pressure is not that big and it is very very much appreciated when you have something like that to show on your resume.
Just keep looking and just pick up the phone and start calling people and companies. If you are really devoted I think you will find yourself having a job / internship in almost no time.
One last thing, you might want to post the city where you live here and some of the things you do and like to do... you might try to turn this into a request for a job. A lot of the people here are working in IT and they might even be able to help you find a job.
Good luck. And let the./ community know how things went.
It looks like it... I think the MPAA guys have hade a day of golf with the VISA guys and now they are all old friends... Maybe they even gone to the same university and shared a dorm room... old friends from university can come very handy.
I am sure this is not the way to go. If you want to catch the real big fish at least. If it is your goal to catch as much communications from you common citizens and store it this might be a good solution. However it is always the excuse of, "we do this to prevent terrorism".
Bull, the FBI and alike know that the real terrorist will not expose themselves this easy that they can be sniffed from the Internet. They will use simply very strong encryption, hide this in other documents so it is not found that easy. They will rely on the old fashion but still good working messengers.
The will have access to highly educated helpers who will provide them with the know-how and technology to communicate without any readable trace.
In my opinion the terrorist case is used much to often to get something what they otherwise never should have had.....
No No we need this because of the terrorists,.. mmm ok yeah sure spy on the citizens because of the terrorists, no questions asked.
To be honest that is NOT my address even do the whois records state this. To be honest it is the address of my parents. And to be honest, I stated that that I would not post my address here (meaning on Slashdot).;-)
But yes, having a domain will tell you quite easily where the person who registered the domain lives. In this case it is not my address but the address of my parents where I lived when I registered the domain;-)
Looks nice, I do however not yet see a good application for this in the real world. Anyone can come up with a good real world example where we could use this?
Or is this more some theoretic research, which do's not have a goal to be used in a real working situation?
Why? What is the real purpose? If I make in my spare time video's and I would like to put them online why should I be licensed as a "television-like service"? This is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever encountered.
What about the freedom of expression? Think of a website as some form of art, just for a moment, I like to express my artistic freedom by making it nice and beautiful and I like to put on there my artistic video's for everyone to watch if they feel like it.
I am not broadcasting, I am offering a file for people to download and play on there local workstation. This is not a "television-like service" this is a website!!
As already mentioned I can see this as a very interesting option for the military. But not only that... There are more cool futures where we could use this. Think about a disaster area where the emergency services need computer power to identify casualties, identify survivors, have to have a network up and running quickly. Attach some good wifi points to this and you have a mobile datacenter.
Think about a company needing more computer power for a large project for a period of a year. Rent a datacenter on site.
Think about your datacenter is burned to the ground.... Call D for Datacenter...
"I'll be digging my bunker under my wind generator." Mmm some words of advice,... it might be quite a lot easier to first build your bunker and than build on top of that you wind turbine. Just a thought.
But yes, I have to agree on some points with you even do your way of saying is somewhat poor in my opinion.
The US is suppressing other countries for there oil. And yes I have the opinion that if there was no oil in Iraq Bush would never started the war.
"We will likely never run out of oil, although it will eventually (50 years? 500?) reach the point where it's simply too expensive to get the stuff out of the ground, and we only use biomass-made oil or some other alternative fuel source."
And yes, than the question is will we be ready? Will we have that alternative fuel source? And will it be available to all of us or only to a happy few? Is it not time to start researching and starting to adopt those new technologies?
As far as I am able to find it there are only a couple of people and companies that are really starting to work on those alternatives. In my opinion this should be a mass concern and there should be a much larger number of people be working on.
"forget about plastics and medicine" replacing oil for those area's will take very long and intense research. The question now is do we have this time.
We could "buy" some time be switching away from oil for transportation and keeping the oil that is left for other applications like the production of for example Plastics and medicine. In my opinion we should start buying time as fast as possible.
However, it looks like the majority of the public is not interested in this subject and they are only interested in powering their cars with the currently cheap oil. In the long run this will be a wrong decision I think. By betting on oil to power your cars at this moment we throw away valuable years in the near future when we really start to understand that there is a end to the oil reserves.
I admit, I do not really live by this year of 2050. It is a prediction and they will recalculate this again and again and they will readjust this a couple of times but someday in the near future it will run out. It could be 2050 it also could be 2070 in could also be 2100. However one day it will run out and that day is not far ahead.
So lets start preparing for that day and lets do it very very quickly. Do you have any idea how long it will take to change the entire supply change? No you don't and neither do I. Nobody knows because it is never done before.
It is time to take action and start changing those things and this is not written by some environmentalist freak, it is written by someone who is simply worrying about the fact that there are so many people saying not to worry and denying the problem.
It is calculated that, lets take the most promising figures available, the newly found oil fields will hold around a 4 month supply in the year 2020. Meaning we will be able to run only 4 months on these fields according to the oil demand in 2020.
And this is only the case if there is what they predict there will be.
Correct correct the oil consumption is likely to peak in 2010 however there will still be oil to power cars and truck,..... However we will only have a couple of years to switch from this to a other power source.
In my opinion the solution can be found in coal liquefactions during the transition face. However more and more research needs to be done and we should already have started this years ago. However it looks like this is not a topic that a lot of people are interested in.
Aspo The organization who is doing research on when the oil consumption will peak and the available quantity has a new figure of the world running completely out of oil in 2050.
Other organizations and institutes a re backing those figures and they agree with this. Meaning that if the figures are correct we will run out in 2050, but as supplies start running out the price of oil will skyrocket.
If they skyrocket this high the price will be to high to, for example, power combines for the harvest of food supplies. This is not a scenario for third world countries, this is a scenario we can expect to have in the US and Europe for example in 20 till 30 years. This is to say if we do not take quick action.
There are solutions to extract fuel from coal, this is done by Germany in world war II when they had almost zero access to oil supplies but where in need of powering a war machine. The solution is today used in South Africa where they have a 28% fuel supply from coal liquefaction.
Even do we are aware of the problem and even do we have a solution in place there is not very much initiative at this moment. We might run out of time. At least that is what I am worried about.
With oil running out in +/- 43 years we are already started very late to start working on good solutions. I think that we, in the end will be working with the coal liquefaction solutions. Creating oil from coal is already done on large scale in South Africa.
We will not be able to change all current diesel driven machines to a other power source so I think this will become to gap closer until we find a better solution. I really wonder what the governments around the world are doing on this subject? Can some people please comment on this to give some insight?
Slashdot Mirror
Fido-net style....... aha,.... yes we are on the same page again. Had to go back in memory for that one. :-) however yes you could do this. It would mean building a lot of things however nothing is holding you back from building such a thing. You will have to maybe even create your own handsets (or new software for it) however it can be done with enough time (and $). ;-) tell me when you are done :-)
Some information is given on the costs during the talk, you can find links to the video archive of the talks at https://wiki.har2009.org/page/Media
some of the pages are currently down I think because the event network is down however servers should be on the move back to the datacenter. Some of the links are currenlty working so you can already have a peak.
Regards,
Johan Louwers.
That was what the writer meant to say ;-)
As promised in my previous post I would give the idea some more thoughts. Forking MySQL Debian support might not be such a bad idea. MySQL is giving up support on Debian and thereby leaving open the possibilities for this to the community.
The opensource community has proven in the past that they are quite capable of handling things like this. I might even be an idea for a small startup (profit or non-profit) I will post some more info about my idea around this on in this discussion and on my weblog http://johanlouwers.blogspot.com/
Regards,
Johan Louwers.
Mmm fork MySQL? Why? There is nothing wrong with the code. You could try to fork the support and start a company specialized in MySQL support on Debian.....
:-) Anyone in? ;-)
I think there is a market for this. The only thing you need is a couple of good people. You/we(the community) could also create a company GPL style. Create a pool of people willing to devote there time on solving MySQL Debian support problems. Create a ticket like system and assign questions to people in the pool.
This way you can quickly create a non-profit company with little to non investments. The biggest "problem" is that you have to attract people willing to become part of you expert pool.
While writing this, it might even be a good challenge to start this..... I will think some more about this.
Regards,
Johan Louwers.
Nick, ;-) "Where have the days gone?". I did not have any university background, which is not so strange on a age of 17. However I did a lot of things just from my home computer. That was giving me a head start when I applied for my first job.
;-). In a previous company I myself even hired some guys from the age of 16 and 17 who liked to come to work during the summer period and they turned out to be quite good. Just go on to the web and select some interesting companies that are close to your home and just give them a call. Do not ask for the HR department but just ask for the head of IT. Explain you "problem" and ask him for a job or to offer you an internship.
./ community know how things went.
Let me be honest with you, I also started around the age of 17 with my first job in IT. This was however some years ago...
A little advise to you, be honest, and just tell them you did not have a job in IT before but that you are more than average keen on learning new stuff. Looking at the fact that you are reading and posting on this website is already giving something away about your interest in IT.
However, the market has settle a little at this moment and the crazy days are mostly gone now. So do not expect to be given a very good paying job at your first interview. The days you could walk in to the office of a IT company, ask for some manager to talk to and offer your service and be able to start working there in less than a hour,.... those days are over.
But,... there is still enough to find even for people of the age of 17. And I am not talking about selling iPod's
Remember, not only big IT companies have interesting IT departments, also smaller companies who have nothing to do with IT as a "product" or service they sell have a IT department. And a lot of those smaller and not IT companies have very interesting IT departments.
The best thing however is to try and get a job or internship at some IT department on a university. They can learn you a lot, the pressure is not that big and it is very very much appreciated when you have something like that to show on your resume.
Just keep looking and just pick up the phone and start calling people and companies. If you are really devoted I think you will find yourself having a job / internship in almost no time.
One last thing, you might want to post the city where you live here and some of the things you do and like to do... you might try to turn this into a request for a job. A lot of the people here are working in IT and they might even be able to help you find a job.
Good luck. And let the
It looks like it... I think the MPAA guys have hade a day of golf with the VISA guys and now they are all old friends... Maybe they even gone to the same university and shared a dorm room... old friends from university can come very handy.
I am sure this is not the way to go. If you want to catch the real big fish at least. If it is your goal to catch as much communications from you common citizens and store it this might be a good solution. However it is always the excuse of, "we do this to prevent terrorism".
....
Bull, the FBI and alike know that the real terrorist will not expose themselves this easy that they can be sniffed from the Internet. They will use simply very strong encryption, hide this in other documents so it is not found that easy. They will rely on the old fashion but still good working messengers.
The will have access to highly educated helpers who will provide them with the know-how and technology to communicate without any readable trace.
In my opinion the terrorist case is used much to often to get something what they otherwise never should have had.
No No we need this because of the terrorists,.. mmm ok yeah sure spy on the citizens because of the terrorists, no questions asked.
Build it yourself is still a good and cheap solution ;-)
Congratulations...
;-)
;-)
To be honest that is NOT my address even do the whois records state this. To be honest it is the address of my parents. And to be honest, I stated that that I would not post my address here (meaning on Slashdot).
But yes, having a domain will tell you quite easily where the person who registered the domain lives. In this case it is not my address but the address of my parents where I lived when I registered the domain
That is why I do not give my home address here :-)...
Woops there is natural selection going down some more... Kidding.. Good thing.... I guess.. ;-)
Looks nice, I do however not yet see a good application for this in the real world. Anyone can come up with a good real world example where we could use this?
Or is this more some theoretic research, which do's not have a goal to be used in a real working situation?
mmm,... I can't help it to notice that this sound a little like the things that where told in Germany during World War II.
One part of humanity should be tall, blond, smart,... etc.. The other part is stupid, ugly, evil,....
I think this guy would be loved in the Germany back then.
Why? What is the real purpose? If I make in my spare time video's and I would like to put them online why should I be licensed as a "television-like service"? This is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever encountered.
What about the freedom of expression? Think of a website as some form of art, just for a moment, I like to express my artistic freedom by making it nice and beautiful and I like to put on there my artistic video's for everyone to watch if they feel like it.
I am not broadcasting, I am offering a file for people to download and play on there local workstation. This is not a "television-like service" this is a website!!
As already mentioned I can see this as a very interesting option for the military. But not only that... There are more cool futures where we could use this. Think about a disaster area where the emergency services need computer power to identify casualties, identify survivors, have to have a network up and running quickly. Attach some good wifi points to this and you have a mobile datacenter.
Think about a company needing more computer power for a large project for a period of a year. Rent a datacenter on site.
Think about your datacenter is burned to the ground.... Call D for Datacenter...
"I'll be digging my bunker under my wind generator." Mmm some words of advice,... it might be quite a lot easier to first build your bunker and than build on top of that you wind turbine. Just a thought.
But yes, I have to agree on some points with you even do your way of saying is somewhat poor in my opinion.
The US is suppressing other countries for there oil. And yes I have the opinion that if there was no oil in Iraq Bush would never started the war.
"Oil was good, and convenient, we just need something better, and we will get it."
Very nice, than my question is when? Will be it be on time? Will it be enough?
Thank you :-)
"We will likely never run out of oil, although it will eventually (50 years? 500?) reach the point where it's simply too expensive to get the stuff out of the ground, and we only use biomass-made oil or some other alternative fuel source."
And yes, than the question is will we be ready? Will we have that alternative fuel source? And will it be available to all of us or only to a happy few? Is it not time to start researching and starting to adopt those new technologies?
As far as I am able to find it there are only a couple of people and companies that are really starting to work on those alternatives. In my opinion this should be a mass concern and there should be a much larger number of people be working on.
Is it just me or......
"forget about plastics and medicine" replacing oil for those area's will take very long and intense research. The question now is do we have this time.
We could "buy" some time be switching away from oil for transportation and keeping the oil that is left for other applications like the production of for example Plastics and medicine. In my opinion we should start buying time as fast as possible.
However, it looks like the majority of the public is not interested in this subject and they are only interested in powering their cars with the currently cheap oil. In the long run this will be a wrong decision I think. By betting on oil to power your cars at this moment we throw away valuable years in the near future when we really start to understand that there is a end to the oil reserves.
I admit, I do not really live by this year of 2050. It is a prediction and they will recalculate this again and again and they will readjust this a couple of times but someday in the near future it will run out. It could be 2050 it also could be 2070 in could also be 2100. However one day it will run out and that day is not far ahead.
So lets start preparing for that day and lets do it very very quickly. Do you have any idea how long it will take to change the entire supply change? No you don't and neither do I. Nobody knows because it is never done before.
It is time to take action and start changing those things and this is not written by some environmentalist freak, it is written by someone who is simply worrying about the fact that there are so many people saying not to worry and denying the problem.
It is calculated that, lets take the most promising figures available, the newly found oil fields will hold around a 4 month supply in the year 2020. Meaning we will be able to run only 4 months on these fields according to the oil demand in 2020.
And this is only the case if there is what they predict there will be.
Correct correct the oil consumption is likely to peak in 2010 however there will still be oil to power cars and truck,..... However we will only have a couple of years to switch from this to a other power source.
In my opinion the solution can be found in coal liquefactions during the transition face. However more and more research needs to be done and we should already have started this years ago. However it looks like this is not a topic that a lot of people are interested in.
Aspo The organization who is doing research on when the oil consumption will peak and the available quantity has a new figure of the world running completely out of oil in 2050.
http://www.peakoil.ie/newsletters/47/
Other organizations and institutes a re backing those figures and they agree with this. Meaning that if the figures are correct we will run out in 2050, but as supplies start running out the price of oil will skyrocket.
If they skyrocket this high the price will be to high to, for example, power combines for the harvest of food supplies. This is not a scenario for third world countries, this is a scenario we can expect to have in the US and Europe for example in 20 till 30 years. This is to say if we do not take quick action.
There are solutions to extract fuel from coal, this is done by Germany in world war II when they had almost zero access to oil supplies but where in need of powering a war machine. The solution is today used in South Africa where they have a 28% fuel supply from coal liquefaction.
Even do we are aware of the problem and even do we have a solution in place there is not very much initiative at this moment. We might run out of time. At least that is what I am worried about.
Well at least they are looking at it..... right?
With oil running out in +/- 43 years we are already started very late to start working on good solutions. I think that we, in the end will be working with the coal liquefaction solutions. Creating oil from coal is already done on large scale in South Africa.
We will not be able to change all current diesel driven machines to a other power source so I think this will become to gap closer until we find a better solution. I really wonder what the governments around the world are doing on this subject? Can some people please comment on this to give some insight?