Wired has a story about how HP, as part of a larger drive to figure out how ideas ideas 'infect' large groups of people, is scientifically proving what most people already know: bloggers steal their ideas from other bloggers !!!
Think about this deal the next time your pay your cable bill, especially if they are a cable monopoly in your area as they are here in Baltimore... Now I know where all those extra charges are going !
That's great info, unfortunately, I didn't say any of those things you attribute to me ! I agree that IBM was a monster back then, OS/2, as cool as it was, was just an attempt by IBM and Microsoft to own the OS (OS/2 became NT, which became XP...) And I couldn't stand Apple back then... they required you to buy the "Apple Printer" for the Mac I, at like 5 times the cost of a clone printer, which seem just unfair.
My point was that Bill Gates is not a hacker and Microsoft basically stole those ideas. That, my friend, is still the truth today. RTFC
In reply:
APPLE gave us that 'grandma can use it' interface, not Bill Gates. Microsoft stole it.
Intel and IBM started the PC craze, not Bill.
Microsoft is everywhere because of anti-competitive (read: anti-American, anti-Capitalist) behavior in business, not due to innovation.
As for error message, you have to kidding right (or just baiting?) - windows is notorious for lousy errors and unexpected reboots.
Try again ?
p.s. Would I be right in guessing that you are under 25 years old... you don't actually remember this stuff, it's just what you think you know, right ?
Um, stealing the Mona Lisa doesn't make you a great artist any more than than Bill Gates tendency to steal and covet other peoples work makes him a great hacker...
Bill Gates has done more to retard the computer industry than any man alive !
I mean, seriously, once it hits the NYT magazine, it's not so much an underground item. I'm sure the article is interesting but it's the nature of underground "sports" that you can never really know exactly who and what is going on.
One of my favorite phrases is, "There are no Famous Hackers" meaning simply, that the famous "super-genuius-crackers" in the news who get caught aren't really all that smart are they ?
(I read it anyway, surprised to hear that one of my favorite bands is still popular;)
Do you also believe in pensions, on the job training, company cars, company parking spaces, martini lunches, and lower paid CEOs vs employees as well ? (using the 1980's 40:1 ration instead of the 1999 500:1 ratio). Do the mailroom employees wear suits ?
Not to go totally OT, but it's just so rare to find someone who believes that programmers (who don't meet clients) wearing a suit can increase "production" Actually, working from home increases production more... ever try that ?
Oh, and I'll take two of those PDA shirts since I tend to break those things !!! - Thanks.
I'm seeing these come in basically at random except for the one from papajohns.com where I know I'm on their list@!, yummmmmmm. The rumor I hear that it mails to random addresses seems reasonable since I have a 3-letter email addy, an easy hit using a simple spammer engine (or the code from one?)
Your message dated Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:56:50 -0500 with subject "HI" has been submitted to the moderator of the VTCREW list: Dave Shuster.
I'm seeing these come in basically at random except for the one from papajohns.com where I know I'm on their list@!, yummmmmmm. The rumor I hear that it mails to random addresses seems reasonable since I have a 3-letter email addy, an easy hit using a simple spammer engine (or the code from one?)
I hope I have these posed correctly, feel free to slap me around if I'm missing the point or being just too paranoid (yeah, 'too paranoid' on/.)
If IBM (or someone) pays you your write their module, and you do it and get paid, who owns the copyright by default ?
Hmmm, so IBM could then have the copyright on tons of "open source" works (GPL'ed of course)...
...and for those philosphers amount you, if IBM copyrights open source modules under a GPL, then SCO distributes them, and SCO invalidates the GPL, does IBM then own the SCO code ?
Um, this bill has been on the table for quite a while now. (see also)
The time for action is when these bills are on the table. Granted, if AT&T can't budge the rats that passed this abhoration, what chance do you have... Write (hand written) letters to your representatives and vote your conscience this November !
The are only selling 1/3 of the interest in the company... a hostile takeover is not possible !
See Also (Jan 6): "About a third of Mountain View, Calif.-based Google may be sold in the IPO, giving the company a market value of about $12 billion, the bankers said. The company will probably register the shares for sale with the Securities and Exchange Commission this month and sell them by April, the bankers said.
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Whether or not you think that trademark law ought to have anything to do with that, it's a pretty sleazy way of doing business.
Like there is any other way these days;)
I'm guessing what Gator does is in question again as well. It was ruled that they could overlay other people's ads because the 'users' (unwitting as they were) had 'agreed' to let them. What a freakin mess...
By the way, I'm guessing by your ID that you're part of the problem;) Okay, to be fair, actually it's 99% of lawyers that give the other 1% a bad name. (MWIAL - My wife is a lawyer)
Thanks... good points all around.
Good point, yes - it's like they want to sell cars to BMW owners as well as accessories and some real estate just in case. Search engines are however being prohibited from selling keywords in order to allow their customers to target people interested in both the similar products or related products... all based on if someone owns a trademark (take "Windows" for example).
It's a bad decision still. People search for things that are like other things. If you were looking for drapes, you might search using "Windows" or "Carpet" or "Match" and you would be using at least two trademarks (Windows and Match.com) in that combined search.
Glad to see the 9th Circuit protecting the citizens from that awful behavior !
The judges got it wrong. These people are not selling a magazine called "Our Playboy" or anything that directly infringes. They are using the term to target people interested in that term.... Remember, these words are not being displayed to humans per se, but to MACHINES that index web pages.
It's more like when a marketer uses a computer-generated list to target BMW owners in order to sell them expensive car products.
Nope... you got it wrong. These people are not selling a magazine called "Our Playboy" or anything that directly infringes. They are using the term to target people interested in that term.... Remember, these words are not being displayed to humans per se, but to MACHINES that index.
It's more like when a marketer targets BMW owners in order to sell expensive car products. Perfectly legal !@!!!
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Wired has a story about how HP, as part of a larger drive to figure out how ideas ideas 'infect' large groups of people, is scientifically proving what most people already know: bloggers steal their ideas from other bloggers !!!
Check it out !
Darn... after I spent an hour arguing over a word last night while playing Scrabble, I find out the word may have been fake after all !
Think about this deal the next time your pay your cable bill, especially if they are a cable monopoly in your area as they are here in Baltimore...
Now I know where all those extra charges are going !
Oh, and then think about getting a dish.
Anyone here feel that Disney+Comcast would be a Good Thing ?
That's great info, unfortunately, I didn't say any of those things you attribute to me ! I agree that IBM was a monster back then, OS/2, as cool as it was, was just an attempt by IBM and Microsoft to own the OS (OS/2 became NT, which became XP...) And I couldn't stand Apple back then... they required you to buy the "Apple Printer" for the Mac I, at like 5 times the cost of a clone printer, which seem just unfair.
My point was that Bill Gates is not a hacker and Microsoft basically stole those ideas. That, my friend, is still the truth today. RTFC
In reply:
APPLE gave us that 'grandma can use it' interface, not Bill Gates. Microsoft stole it.
Intel and IBM started the PC craze, not Bill.
Microsoft is everywhere because of anti-competitive (read: anti-American, anti-Capitalist) behavior in business, not due to innovation.
As for error message, you have to kidding right (or just baiting?) - windows is notorious for lousy errors and unexpected reboots.
Try again ?
p.s. Would I be right in guessing that you are under 25 years old... you don't actually remember this stuff, it's just what you think you know, right ?
Um, stealing the Mona Lisa doesn't make you a great artist any more than than Bill Gates tendency to steal and covet other peoples work makes him a great hacker...
Bill Gates has done more to retard the computer industry than any man alive !
I mean, seriously, once it hits the NYT magazine, it's not so much an underground item. I'm sure the article is interesting but it's the nature of underground "sports" that you can never really know exactly who and what is going on.
One of my favorite phrases is, "There are no Famous Hackers" meaning simply, that the famous "super-genuius-crackers" in the news who get caught aren't really all that smart are they ?
(I read it anyway, surprised to hear that one of my favorite bands is still popular
Especially as a gerund !
Contrary to popular belief, Google is not supposed to be a verb
Google decidedly does not approve.
Wow, this should start a minor surge in traffic...
I wonder if they are planning to capitalize on it, maybe a reference service like Froogle, but for dating.
Can Scroogol be far off ???
Do you also believe in pensions, on the job training, company cars, company parking spaces, martini lunches, and lower paid CEOs vs employees as well ? (using the 1980's 40:1 ration instead of the 1999 500:1 ratio). Do the mailroom employees wear suits ?
Not to go totally OT, but it's just so rare to find someone who believes that programmers (who don't meet clients) wearing a suit can increase "production" Actually, working from home increases production more... ever try that ?
Oh, and I'll take two of those PDA shirts since I tend to break those things !!! - Thanks.
hehe, yeah, but the last thing my company needs is a reason to go back to the suit rule (even for programmers!)
Very clever machine, but what an unusual choice of location for such an embedded device.
What next, a computer for your ball-gag ? Or maybe running GIMP on your GIMP ???
I'm seeing these come in basically at random except for the one from papajohns.com where I know I'm on their list@!, yummmmmmm. The rumor I hear that it mails to random addresses seems reasonable since I have a 3-letter email addy, an easy hit using a simple spammer engine (or the code from one?)
Yuck... this thing is going to be messy
Poor Dave Shuster...
Your message dated Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:56:50 -0500 with subject "HI" has been submitted to the moderator of the VTCREW list: Dave Shuster
I'm seeing these come in basically at random except for the one from papajohns.com where I know I'm on their list@!, yummmmmmm. The rumor I hear that it mails to random addresses seems reasonable since I have a 3-letter email addy, an easy hit using a simple spammer engine (or the code from one?)
Yuck... this thing is going to be messy
I hope I have these posed correctly, feel free to slap me around if I'm missing the point or being just too paranoid (yeah, 'too paranoid' on
If IBM (or someone) pays you your write their module, and you do it and get paid, who owns the copyright by default ?
Hmmm, so IBM could then have the copyright on tons of "open source" works (GPL'ed of course)...
(Okay, that last one was only half serious)
Open Source Workers patent method for excluding IBM hardware and software from ever working with Linux
Don't count on IBM to screw anyone on this, they aren't the type of company to cut off their nose to spite their face.
Um, this bill has been on the table for quite a while now. (see also)
The time for action is when these bills are on the table. Granted, if AT&T can't budge the rats that passed this abhoration, what chance do you have... Write (hand written) letters to your representatives and vote your conscience this November !
The are only selling 1/3 of the interest in the company... a hostile takeover is not possible !
See Also (Jan 6): "About a third of Mountain View, Calif.-based Google may be sold in the IPO, giving the company a market value of about $12 billion, the bankers said. The company will probably register the shares for sale with the Securities and Exchange Commission this month and sell them by April, the bankers said. "
I read the article this morning and decided to take a nap before replying...
- - - - I just woke up and this is all I could come up with to say ?!
Whether or not you think that trademark law ought to have anything to do with that, it's a pretty sleazy way of doing business.
Like there is any other way these days
I'm guessing what Gator does is in question again as well. It was ruled that they could overlay other people's ads because the 'users' (unwitting as they were) had 'agreed' to let them. What a freakin mess...
By the way, I'm guessing by your ID that you're part of the problem
Thanks... good points all around.
Good point, yes - it's like they want to sell cars to BMW owners as well as accessories and some real estate just in case. Search engines are however being prohibited from selling keywords in order to allow their customers to target people interested in both the similar products or related products... all based on if someone owns a trademark (take "Windows" for example).
It's a bad decision still. People search for things that are like other things. If you were looking for drapes, you might search using "Windows" or "Carpet" or "Match" and you would be using at least two trademarks (Windows and Match.com) in that combined search. Glad to see the 9th Circuit protecting the citizens from that awful behavior !
I'm sure that confusion is what makes it sooo much fun for the companies and soooo profitable for the lawyers. Yuck.
By the way...
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664 - The bloke next door.
The judges got it wrong. These people are not selling a magazine called "Our Playboy" or anything that directly infringes. They are using the term to target people interested in that term.... Remember, these words are not being displayed to humans per se, but to MACHINES that index web pages.
It's more like when a marketer uses a computer-generated list to target BMW owners in order to sell them expensive car products.
Perfectly legal !@!!!
Nope... you got it wrong. These people are not selling a magazine called "Our Playboy" or anything that directly infringes. They are using the term to target people interested in that term.... Remember, these words are not being displayed to humans per se, but to MACHINES that index.
It's more like when a marketer targets BMW owners in order to sell expensive car products. Perfectly legal !@!!!
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