I think that this is the easy way out, this way the author of the original code can simply ignore the other plataforms. I think that the author should be consient that other plataforms do exists and he should actively try to separate code that is plataform dependent into separate files or libs. And learning autoconf do help to learn where the pifalls are.
Said that, I do agree that a good autoconf configuration is very hard to acomplish, mainly when you doing it for the first time.
You forget that the impact that we humans have in nature is not in any measure mild. The number of species that have disapeared since we measured this stuff is very high. We have an effect in almost all the eco-systems existent in the world.
Off course we are in fact a random event in nature, but since we can measure our attitudes, why not try to co-operate with nature, instead of simply kill every eco-system we see?
I know those packages, but I don't think that the end user is always searching for a web browser or a editor. I believe that those components usually are already installed in the computer. But the end user do want to install software, why? Because he was wondering in the internet and saw a page of the "incredible XYZlizer the software that can do all you want". He want that software, not a generic "do it all" application.
He then faces the problems I described before, either because XYZlizer is not in the apt repository or because one of it's depedency aren't there.
The problem is right there, usualy the user first find the software then try to install it. So you see find the software is not a problem. Once found a software I want or need, I have to download it, the download page for much of the open source projects will give at least 3 options, sometime even more. 1 tar.gz, 1 rpm and 1 apt. If I know what those mean, I may know what package to download.
Once downloaded I double click it, being a end user and all. Now the problems begin, if this package needs something that do not come with my distro, most package front-ends will simply say "dependecy not found".:-/ Some of them will try to find the dependency in the net, but from a certain set of all the packages that could not contain the correct package.
What we need is a distributed system, something that need no central authority. Each packager creates a file that says this package needs this, this and that and where those dependency can be found. Each of the dependency packages would have a similar file atached to them, by the creators of the libraries. Or something like that.
Not all product placement in movies come from add revenue. In the "back to the future" DVD, you can learn that even thought the movie is filled with trademarks, all of those trademarks were carefully chosen with a criteria to help the plot. All logos must have changed significantly from the 50's to the 80's. Both texaco and pepsi did not payed add money to the producers, texaco have donate some old uniforms.
Usually add placement is very badly placed in movies and the company promoting the product usually demand absurd things like lines talking about the product or close-ups. It's always spotable in a second a payed add in a movie or TV show. And it aways disgust me.
Read again, it is two diferent runs, one that will work and the other that will segfault. For instance, if program is called "foo" and you call it with the line "foo bar" and all goes fine, but then you call it "foo baar" and it goes boink. The site can magicly tell what's wrong.
The idea is using only open-source, to cut the high prices of thelicense per each of the thousands and thousands of computers used by the goverment. Even if wine could run office with 100% compatibility, this would mean an office license per computer (that could be even invalided due to use outside windows).
PT, the workers' party, administration have been pro-open-source for some time now. Even before Lula was elected, several places where PT has or had mayors or governors had a push to use open source solution.
The harder part is that for the majority of the people and even for some offices and enterprises, windows is free of charge (read piracy). So people don't feel the economic burden of using a non-free software. This makes the adption of new versions of office and windows is quite fast here. Also many developers can have a development plataform at home that would have costed him thousands of dolars.
This is not true today. All the ocidental cultures, may seem similar to the casual viewer, but they are actually very diferent. I live in Brasil, and I tell you, we had a sexual scandal with one president a few years ago (10 or so). Itamar Franco, was photographed with a model that were wearing no panties, during the carnaval. All paper in the following day had the pictures. What happend? Itamar had a increase in his popularity.
People in diferent countries think quite diferent. I was in europe (spain and france, Madrid and Paris actualy) this year. And it is quite impressive how much people differ only by moving a few kilometers (1260Km). It is not only the language that changes is how people think and see the world.
The globalization has made it easier for people experience diferent cultures and even import traits from those cultures. But when you bring something to your culture, you're assimilating, changing it. Even what people choose to use from other cultures is choosen based in the original culture.
For instance, Brasil is the process of importing halloween. Each year you see more and more halloween parties, but they are our parities, and I am sure they are quite diferent from what americans know about halloween.
Even thought I agree with most of what you writen, I think I most say that I don't believe in this "evolutionary" view of history. I don't think that all civilizations will eventually become a certain way. Many people seem to view things that way, since many of todays cultures have many similar values.
But this is all rooted first in the roman empire, that conquered and exported it's culture to all europe, then you have the colonialism that exported the culture to africa, americas and asia. And the the grand finalle is the great wars that "taimed" japan and force them to join our way.
Ps. I am not a historian or anything like, I just happen to be very intereted in the subject. Any correction or observation is welcome.:-)
I compleatly agree with every word of your post. Disney did not created anything nearly good in the last years. The only "disney movies" that made any success are the Pixar ones, and not because they are made with 3d technology, but because they have well develeped character and history line. Each Pixar movie is diferent, even toy-story 2 is reseanably diferent from toy-story 1, witch is very rare in sequels.
Disney don't need to get away from 2-d animation, shure it is more expensive, but it has glamour. Disney need history-tellers to write their scripts. it needs to rethink it's models, and direcives.
I made you my friend in slashdor because of this good comment.:-)
Also it is important to remember that if your requirements is something like a "windows+office" sorta of thing, all you need is a few clicks default instalation of almost any linux dist.
Any person that is compeent enougth to install windows to a clean machine is able to that. Is not that hard.
This is not comparable to what the parent stated, this would be more like doing the really low level configuration. This procedure would be like instructing the user to go/etc/init.d/rc5.d directory (folder?) and delete the file S??messanger and K??messanger.
Linux, at least most (all?) the distros have some simple interface to stop/start services. In red-hat the point and click way would be:
(1) find the "services" option in the "hat menu" (I have ximian, so my menus are a little different)
(2) type your root password
(3) select the service in the list of services.
(4) click the stop button.
(5) uncheck the services, so it don't start again next boot
In fact for the point and click user, this type of configuration is usualy as easy in linux and windows. Windows usualy simply don't have an option for the user who likes comand-prompt (yes they exist, belive me).
How about a pop-window that blinks a lot with red letters saying "Tired of pop-up windows?" blink, goes to "your mail box is aways full of spam?" blink again "you always have more then 5 IE windows open at a time?" blink "mozilla is the sollution!! Call now.".
Diferent color means diferent inks, with diferent properties. It make harder to copy.
Now for diferent sizes there are two reasons, one is that with smaller values being smaller then larger ones means that you cannot use a $1,00 bill to print a $100,00 one. Also it makes it easier for blind people to recognise the money that are handled to them.
I think you are the only person here that catched what I was tring to say. Sure if you got out and watch a introdutory course of english or philosofy, it you be easy. But many people spends hours and hours studing those things. Many more men-hours werer spended studing those two subjects then quantum physics and OS design together. To think that they are easier is simply denying the thoughts of hundrens or thousands of people.
If the cd is properly done, you can make a uniform API for games to run. So it is almost like a single hardware, the games it self don't have to tinkle with the hardware.
Since this is a work of AMD+NVidia I would bet that you would need some kind of GForce (maybe IV) to run the game plataform.
"Well, why don't you try www.penispillsattheabsolutelowestpriceeverywhere.c om? It is completely anonymous, safe, and hassle free. And it works! My wife has never been happier, if you know what I mean..."
"well, I tryed that, but I just got some kind search engine."
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I think that this is the easy way out, this way the author of the original code can simply ignore the other plataforms. I think that the author should be consient that other plataforms do exists and he should actively try to separate code that is plataform dependent into separate files or libs. And learning autoconf do help to learn where the pifalls are.
Said that, I do agree that a good autoconf configuration is very hard to acomplish, mainly when you doing it for the first time.
You forget that the impact that we humans have in nature is not in any measure mild. The number of species that have disapeared since we measured this stuff is very high. We have an effect in almost all the eco-systems existent in the world.
Off course we are in fact a random event in nature, but since we can measure our attitudes, why not try to co-operate with nature, instead of simply kill every eco-system we see?
I know those packages, but I don't think that the end user is always searching for a web browser or a editor. I believe that those components usually are already installed in the computer. But the end user do want to install software, why? Because he was wondering in the internet and saw a page of the "incredible XYZlizer the software that can do all you want". He want that software, not a generic "do it all" application.
He then faces the problems I described before, either because XYZlizer is not in the apt repository or because one of it's depedency aren't there.
The problem is right there, usualy the user first find the software then try to install it. So you see find the software is not a problem. Once found a software I want or need, I have to download it, the download page for much of the open source projects will give at least 3 options, sometime even more. 1 tar.gz, 1 rpm and 1 apt. If I know what those mean, I may know what package to download.
:-/ Some of them will try to find the dependency in the net, but from a certain set of all the packages that could not contain the correct package.
Once downloaded I double click it, being a end user and all. Now the problems begin, if this package needs something that do not come with my distro, most package front-ends will simply say "dependecy not found".
What we need is a distributed system, something that need no central authority. Each packager creates a file that says this package needs this, this and that and where those dependency can be found. Each of the dependency packages would have a similar file atached to them, by the creators of the libraries. Or something like that.
Not all product placement in movies come from add revenue. In the "back to the future" DVD, you can learn that even thought the movie is filled with trademarks, all of those trademarks were carefully chosen with a criteria to help the plot. All logos must have changed significantly from the 50's to the 80's. Both texaco and pepsi did not payed add money to the producers, texaco have donate some old uniforms.
Usually add placement is very badly placed in movies and the company promoting the product usually demand absurd things like lines talking about the product or close-ups. It's always spotable in a second a payed add in a movie or TV show. And it aways disgust me.
Organise? You can organise all of those? Oh my, why didn't I never thought in that...
Read again, it is two diferent runs, one that will work and the other that will segfault. For instance, if program is called "foo" and you call it with the line "foo bar" and all goes fine, but then you call it "foo baar" and it goes boink. The site can magicly tell what's wrong.
Would you hold that sign?
The idea is using only open-source, to cut the high prices of thelicense per each of the thousands and thousands of computers used by the goverment. Even if wine could run office with 100% compatibility, this would mean an office license per computer (that could be even invalided due to use outside windows).
PT, the workers' party, administration have been pro-open-source for some time now. Even before Lula was elected, several places where PT has or had mayors or governors had a push to use open source solution.
The harder part is that for the majority of the people and even for some offices and enterprises, windows is free of charge (read piracy). So people don't feel the economic burden of using a non-free software. This makes the adption of new versions of office and windows is quite fast here. Also many developers can have a development plataform at home that would have costed him thousands of dolars.
This is not true today. All the ocidental cultures, may seem similar to the casual viewer, but they are actually very diferent. I live in Brasil, and I tell you, we had a sexual scandal with one president a few years ago (10 or so). Itamar Franco, was photographed with a model that were wearing no panties, during the carnaval. All paper in the following day had the pictures. What happend? Itamar had a increase in his popularity.
People in diferent countries think quite diferent. I was in europe (spain and france, Madrid and Paris actualy) this year. And it is quite impressive how much people differ only by moving a few kilometers (1260Km). It is not only the language that changes is how people think and see the world.
The globalization has made it easier for people experience diferent cultures and even import traits from those cultures. But when you bring something to your culture, you're assimilating, changing it. Even what people choose to use from other cultures is choosen based in the original culture.
For instance, Brasil is the process of importing halloween. Each year you see more and more halloween parties, but they are our parities, and I am sure they are quite diferent from what americans know about halloween.
Even thought I agree with most of what you writen, I think I most say that I don't believe in this "evolutionary" view of history. I don't think that all civilizations will eventually become a certain way. Many people seem to view things that way, since many of todays cultures have many similar values.
:-)
But this is all rooted first in the roman empire, that conquered and exported it's culture to all europe, then you have the colonialism that exported the culture to africa, americas and asia. And the the grand finalle is the great wars that "taimed" japan and force them to join our way.
Ps. I am not a historian or anything like, I just happen to be very intereted in the subject. Any correction or observation is welcome.
I guess that when, "ops", I hit a market, an hospital or a hotel, make it all right then?
I compleatly agree with every word of your post. Disney did not created anything nearly good in the last years. The only "disney movies" that made any success are the Pixar ones, and not because they are made with 3d technology, but because they have well develeped character and history line. Each Pixar movie is diferent, even toy-story 2 is reseanably diferent from toy-story 1, witch is very rare in sequels.
:-)
Disney don't need to get away from 2-d animation, shure it is more expensive, but it has glamour. Disney need history-tellers to write their scripts. it needs to rethink it's models, and direcives.
I made you my friend in slashdor because of this good comment.
If you're expecting it, then it is not spam. Spam is unsolicited email, or opt-out. When you opt-in, then is not spam.
Also it is important to remember that if your requirements is something like a "windows+office" sorta of thing, all you need is a few clicks default instalation of almost any linux dist.
Any person that is compeent enougth to install windows to a clean machine is able to that. Is not that hard.
You're a poor excuse for a geek, if you remember clearly the ship in the voyage home is a klingon bird of pray, that had a cloak device.
:-/
Now does that make me a poor excuse for a man, just for knowing this.
DMCA? Do I need to say more?
This is not comparable to what the parent stated, this would be more like doing the really low level configuration. This procedure would be like instructing the user to go /etc/init.d/rc5.d directory (folder?) and delete the file S??messanger and K??messanger.
:
Linux, at least most (all?) the distros have some simple interface to stop/start services. In red-hat the point and click way would be
(1) find the "services" option in the "hat menu" (I have ximian, so my menus are a little different)
(2) type your root password
(3) select the service in the list of services.
(4) click the stop button.
(5) uncheck the services, so it don't start again next boot
In fact for the point and click user, this type of configuration is usualy as easy in linux and windows. Windows usualy simply don't have an option for the user who likes comand-prompt (yes they exist, belive me).
How about a pop-window that blinks a lot with red letters saying "Tired of pop-up windows?" blink, goes to "your mail box is aways full of spam?" blink again "you always have more then 5 IE windows open at a time?" blink "mozilla is the sollution!! Call now.".
Diferent color means diferent inks, with diferent properties. It make harder to copy.
Now for diferent sizes there are two reasons, one is that with smaller values being smaller then larger ones means that you cannot use a $1,00 bill to print a $100,00 one. Also it makes it easier for blind people to recognise the money that are handled to them.
I think you are the only person here that catched what I was tring to say. Sure if you got out and watch a introdutory course of english or philosofy, it you be easy. But many people spends hours and hours studing those things. Many more men-hours werer spended studing those two subjects then quantum physics and OS design together. To think that they are easier is simply denying the thoughts of hundrens or thousands of people.
Thank you.
Why do you think that english or philosophy are inherantly easier then OS design or quantum mechanics?
If the cd is properly done, you can make a uniform API for games to run. So it is almost like a single hardware, the games it self don't have to tinkle with the hardware.
Since this is a work of AMD+NVidia I would bet that you would need some kind of GForce (maybe IV) to run the game plataform.
"Well, why don't you try www.penispillsattheabsolutelowestpriceeverywhere.c om? It is completely anonymous, safe, and hassle free.
And it works! My wife has never been happier, if you know what I mean..."
"well, I tryed that, but I just got some kind search engine."