So you don't believe that cars, telephones, mass-produced books, vaccines, television, movies, cheap clothing (i.e. mass-produced clothing such as denim jeans), or computers are things? Don't get me wrong, I don't approve of one group attacking another and subjugating it, but you're going a bit overboard in the other direction, don't you think?
I love how everyone has attacked just this one portion of my statement.
It's almost like that Life of Brian portion where they are listing all the Good Things that Rome has brought them (of course they did, but then they burned their Temple down later!)
Africa would still be there with out cars, telephones, mass-produced books, vaccines, television, movies, cheap clothing (i.e. mass-produced clothing such as denim jeans), or computers.
Ever seen "The Gods Must Be Crazy?" or that Duck Tales episode where they let the Tibetians have a bottle cap and they go nuts because everyone needed one?
Democracy, we have it great! Capitalisim, we have it great! Cars, telephones, mass-produced books, vaccines, television, movies, cheap clothing (i.e. mass-produced clothing such as denim jeans), and computers, we have them, great!
Problem is that you think that the "third world" needs the insane things you have. No Tibetian needs a new Mac with the flat screen, DVD-RW+, and all that bull shit.
Being that most people there are still poor and dying from starvation I wouldn't say they brought much.
Sure, the way I phrased it was. I fully understand that not every white person in Africa is European, but my comment should have been phrased like "the only thing Europeans..."
Being "white" or "black" is just skin pigmentation. To say that having "white" pigments causes one to bring racism to Africa is completely non sequitor.
Again, just look up. If you are simply going to argue with me over the semantics of my phrasing please stop. Sure I'm not a literary genius, I may even spell a few things wrong in haste; but in no way was I trying to be racist.
Actually, now that I think of things I can't think of one group of people lighter than the Africans who came into the continent and didn't try to "fuck things up". But I'm sure I'm wrong - I hope I am.
And to divide up continents simply based on skin pigmentation is even more ludicrous!
Me? You obviously know nothing about history or what drives it. Brian, countries are divided up by race, cities are divided even! The reason there is differences in skin pigmentation is the simple fact that there was too much xenophobia over great amount of time. To try to explain it here to you would be frustrating.
Simply: every ancient culture made it their priority to keep the others out and make sure you knew who was in your group. This is the reason that there are differences in skin color - Japanese are different from Chinese because they are decended from Mongol "barbarians" who went from Korea to Japan's current islands - the Egyptians are lighter than their Nubian neighbors because the two were usually at war, the two didn't integrate - Jews (and other Semitics have almost exact tales) had a culture which although on the level looks odd it served a purpose; to keep people out and your people in.
I didn't invent it - read up.
What intrinsically about the land mass of Africa would cause you to come to the logical conclusion that only people with darker pigmentation should be there?
Nothing. I'm not really saying that there should be any whites in Africa but I'm just getting tired of some fucking white guy (I'm white;-)) saying shit about how Christians can't preach in China and whites can't farm in Africa, all that same crap.
Here in America we are still treating blacks like crap, it may not be as obvious, and we don't just up and kill them anymore but we still deny jobs...
The problem would be if I had a.org site, let's say some artists want to showcase their site and we formed and organization to do so and made a site.
Later to cover costs of the site (considering you can host a site cheaper than it costs to register one sometimes... sheesh) we start selling works. Would we get booted from our TLD or what?
Strict usage of a rule like "no business" won't work. But it is a good idea.
kill the only productive segment of his economy in the blantantly dishonest name of "land reform."
I hope to g0d you don't mean white people. I don't doubt they are productive citizens to say they are the only is kind of harsh isn't it. Of course I won't name call until you can respond.
As far as Mandela and Tutu there are a few issues. First: They are peaceful enough people but they realize that the white's don't belong in Africa. Although they don't want violence or anything harsh they still believe that Africa is a continent for Africans - not Englishmen or Frenchmen. And it shouldn't be - the only thing whites have brought to Africa is racism and their own forms of control over the lands true owners.
While there is bloodshed over rival groups, tribes and governments that is life; a consequence of the pecking order of people(s).
To quote a book:
[speaking about Khomeini's and Iran's style of revolution and it's spread around the world specifically Africa, China and other areas of Asia] have gained sufficent favor with South Africa's ANC that Nelson Mandela, in a 1992 visit to Teheran, told the Iranians that Africa must be reshaped along the lines of the Iranian revolution.[1] (Ironically, when South African leader Bishop Desmond Tutu gave a speech to a Palestinian crowd in 1989 lauding Palestinian interests, he failed to realize that the Arabic banners carried by his listeners read, "On Saturday We Will Kill the Jews, on Sunday We Will Kill the Christians!")[2]
The Lucifer Principle, Howard Bloom pg. 226,227 Atlantic Monthly Press [1]Danziger, Himelfarb, and Weisenberg: "Schwarz 'Optimistic' on South Africa's Prospects." [2]Robert R. McMillan, "Do You Have a Stamp of Israel in Your Passport?" Cucus Current, May 1992, 28
Colonizers left Africa and it's people with nice constitutions that we all would assume would make everything nice and dandy. The problem is that the place wasn't in any better shape when they left. (thus the reason for interests in Iran's style of revolution, they were fighing to nationalize oil-their one source of money)
Democracy is nice but you can't just force two rival gangs together and most importantly you can't expect your colonial times to be forgotten about.
Britian seems to be just a reason for him to mobilize the masses into acting, can't blame someone for doing what is part of human nature.
Before saying "hey! he's evil he kills white people!" think about why, think about why it's important to have an enemy. Sometimes that enemy could be your best friend.
Is it ok? No. But it happens and Africa is right now just one place where it is happening more often than we weaklings would like.
I suppose it is surprising to starry-eyed marxists who still buy into the collective bullshit of African anti-colonial revolution.
It's not bull shit buddy. You know little about how one set of people get over on another. If it's Islam, Judaism, Mao Red Guards, "Manifest Destiny", Christianity, Tutsis vs Hutus, Maxists, and all the other memes that drive a society there is bloodshed, there is a reason for it and it certainly not bull-shit.
If the enemy is fake or real it drives the people. Would you have bought the idea that Native Americans are heathens and need to be killed so your soul could be saved? (btw just in case it's not true - we had other things in mind)
if nations want to censor the internet, they should do it themselves. it would be funny to watch them realize the futility of attempting to stop information.
Even though this specific case is based on more general problems your statement still fits.
I am borderline on what some countries want to block. For example; personally I think that laws forbidding people to buy Nazi merchandise in France is wrong (I fully understand their issue which makes it even harder for me) but someone needs to make an effort to keep the French people from buying that merchandise. The only people that should be making that effort is the government who made the law.
Don't allow routing to the offending server, ask that mailing packages be marked if offending import laws, censor if you must! Just don't hold the rest of us responsible.
If anyone should be put on the town square and chastised it should be the inept Internet professionals that work in Zimbabwe. Maybe they need to add another law to their books: allow DNS entries for or route to an offending host and face up (to whatever punishment they love).
Rights to free speech don't exist everywhere and neither does governmental control of thought and speech.
If you break a law in another country then it is them who punishes you. If you break a law of let's say Sealand then no other nation has a right to punish you - that in fact could be seen as a challenge to a nations soverignty.
When are the sane people going to wisen up to the Internet? Have they all gone into hiding since '95?
Here is their site if you don't remember this POS. (I've never tried one... sounds cool but no one has one to hook up with)
The question is: Are we going to be seeing the verizon guy going around standing next to people on cell phones saying "Can you hear me now? Damn!... Can you... damn dropped call!"
... but this is "news for nerds. stuff that matters"
I thought about using NetFlix for movie rental when they first "arrived" (pop-ups) but instead I looked around locally.
I found that the best place to get movies in fact isn't on-line and it's free.
I simply go down to my local library and get movies, nerdy ones for free and can re-new over the computer. If I am late at least on the return I know at least that my fee goes to the library.
"Pop" movies are there and better than ever DOCUMENTARIES
Of course I know I'm just lucky: telnet://catalog.cincinnatilibrary.org/
I've personally (off-topic) been looking for something that would play MP3 discs and hold about 50 or so CD's at once.
I've seen 150+ CD Players for as low as $99, how much for the same thing which will decode MP3 data discs?
It sure would be nice to have that library of MP3 discs (around 200, that is ~7 albums per CD (1400 CD's-all mine)) play... on random.
If this is a good question mod it up... it's only karma
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Well if they don't fight until it's too late then they could jump on the bandwagon.
Why not run re-runs with this P2P idea? Even with commercials. (if the users fast foward then that is the users fault).
My point is that it doesn't have to be "us vs. them". They could benefit. TVLand branded Get Smart downloads would be fsckin' awsome - I don't care if a company has an interest.
The difference between pirates and non-pirates is the fact that the pirates don't want to be associated with a company and are thrown back by the idea that the establishment is behind anything. (Pirates don't even like each other. Look at history this idea even holds true for people who raided ships... they hated the queen/king and what that meme embodied.)
Of course I agree that those bands (?) aren't great but making fun of them is almost being a troll.
I mean, I don't like techno - I just don't find it appealing to my ear. Some would disagree, some wouldn't. Moderators should realize at least that ripping on a whole genre or a few "pop" artists isn't "cool".
Sorry to be harsh it's just that I've had this discussion a few days ago. Showing off how cool you are by "dissin'" pop artists is just silly.
The gameplay of Super Mario World took me by storm and the 3D versions of Mario and Sonic don't compare.
3D means it's almost impossible to make those clutch jumps etc.
I think cool idea compared to your RBG or Composite out would be a USB or Firewire out. Hook up your next-gen handheld to your PC and viola... it's on your screen. The bandwidth on USB 2.0 and Firewire is enough and the games could even be played in a window while using the handheld as the controller (doesn't the GBA kind of do this now with the GC?)
The Dreamcast was/is cool because it had SEGA games that focused not on glitter but on games... the other two guys either pump out titles (sony) or focus on graphics (ms).
"if you're participating in a sport with zero cost of entry, you're probably going to be out on a field with rednecks and other white trash."
...and if you are on a field playing a sport that takes a million to play you are likely not getting the competition you should. How un-sportsman-like?
It isn't the idea that you are locking out "the poorest" players - the problem is that you aren't likely to get "the best" players because the entry fee is so high.
Who wants to play with a bunch of inbreed snobs?
Of course you complain about spelling "a lot" as "alot" while you fail to capitalize your own sentences.
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Well, of course... no taxation without representation!
They found the loophole.
Hey
Maybe the next generation of techies can type on pda's and cellphones with all this training they will get.
I have to ask, but are you looking for anyone like me:
Resume
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I read slashdot daily
I'm pretty good at quake
I think computers are just super!
guess not... urghh, gotta keep looking.
So you don't believe that cars, telephones, mass-produced books, vaccines, television, movies, cheap clothing (i.e. mass-produced clothing such as denim jeans), or computers are things? Don't get me wrong, I don't approve of one group attacking another and subjugating it, but you're going a bit overboard in the other direction, don't you think?
I love how everyone has attacked just this one portion of my statement.
It's almost like that Life of Brian portion where they are listing all the Good Things that Rome has brought them (of course they did, but then they burned their Temple down later!)
Africa would still be there with out cars, telephones, mass-produced books, vaccines, television, movies, cheap clothing (i.e. mass-produced clothing such as denim jeans), or computers.
Ever seen "The Gods Must Be Crazy?" or that Duck Tales episode where they let the Tibetians have a bottle cap and they go nuts because everyone needed one?
Democracy, we have it great! Capitalisim, we have it great! Cars, telephones, mass-produced books, vaccines, television, movies, cheap clothing (i.e. mass-produced clothing such as denim jeans), and computers, we have them, great!
Problem is that you think that the "third world" needs the insane things you have. No Tibetian needs a new Mac with the flat screen, DVD-RW+, and all that bull shit.
Being that most people there are still poor and dying from starvation I wouldn't say they brought much.
WE HAVE JEANS ALL ARE SAVED!
Hmm, isn't this an example of a racist statement?
Sure, the way I phrased it was. I fully understand that not every white person in Africa is European, but my comment should have been phrased like "the only thing Europeans..."
Being "white" or "black" is just skin pigmentation. To say that having "white" pigments causes one to bring racism to Africa is completely non sequitor.
Again, just look up. If you are simply going to argue with me over the semantics of my phrasing please stop. Sure I'm not a literary genius, I may even spell a few things wrong in haste; but in no way was I trying to be racist.
Actually, now that I think of things I can't think of one group of people lighter than the Africans who came into the continent and didn't try to "fuck things up". But I'm sure I'm wrong - I hope I am.
And to divide up continents simply based on skin pigmentation is even more ludicrous!
Me? You obviously know nothing about history or what drives it. Brian, countries are divided up by race, cities are divided even! The reason there is differences in skin pigmentation is the simple fact that there was too much xenophobia over great amount of time. To try to explain it here to you would be frustrating.
Simply: every ancient culture made it their priority to keep the others out and make sure you knew who was in your group. This is the reason that there are differences in skin color - Japanese are different from Chinese because they are decended from Mongol "barbarians" who went from Korea to Japan's current islands - the Egyptians are lighter than their Nubian neighbors because the two were usually at war, the two didn't integrate - Jews (and other Semitics have almost exact tales) had a culture which although on the level looks odd it served a purpose; to keep people out and your people in.
I didn't invent it - read up.
What intrinsically about the land mass of Africa would cause you to come to the logical conclusion that only people with darker pigmentation should be there?
Nothing. I'm not really saying that there should be any whites in Africa but I'm just getting tired of some fucking white guy (I'm white
Here in America we are still treating blacks like crap, it may not be as obvious, and we don't just up and kill them anymore but we still deny jobs...
Well, now M$ will have someone to sue...
funny thing is that I was told to go into "help desk" positions by my "counselor" for the states vocational rehab (i'm disabled, bi-polar type I)
The lady also said that certification is the best way to go!
Afterward of course I came home throwing shit and yelling "dumb whore!"
I tried to tell her in the office to visit ask.slashdot.org but she won't listen.
Non-profit != no business
.org site, let's say some artists want to showcase their site and we formed and organization to do so and made a site.
The problem would be if I had a
Later to cover costs of the site (considering you can host a site cheaper than it costs to register one sometimes... sheesh) we start selling works. Would we get booted from our TLD or what?
Strict usage of a rule like "no business" won't work. But it is a good idea.
I hope to g0d you don't mean white people. I don't doubt they are productive citizens to say they are the only is kind of harsh isn't it. Of course I won't name call until you can respond.
As far as Mandela and Tutu there are a few issues. First: They are peaceful enough people but they realize that the white's don't belong in Africa. Although they don't want violence or anything harsh they still believe that Africa is a continent for Africans - not Englishmen or Frenchmen. And it shouldn't be - the only thing whites have brought to Africa is racism and their own forms of control over the lands true owners.
While there is bloodshed over rival groups, tribes and governments that is life; a consequence of the pecking order of people(s).
To quote a book:
Colonizers left Africa and it's people with nice constitutions that we all would assume would make everything nice and dandy. The problem is that the place wasn't in any better shape when they left. (thus the reason for interests in Iran's style of revolution, they were fighing to nationalize oil-their one source of money)
Democracy is nice but you can't just force two rival gangs together and most importantly you can't expect your colonial times to be forgotten about.
Britian seems to be just a reason for him to mobilize the masses into acting, can't blame someone for doing what is part of human nature.
Before saying "hey! he's evil he kills white people!" think about why, think about why it's important to have an enemy. Sometimes that enemy could be your best friend.
Is it ok? No. But it happens and Africa is right now just one place where it is happening more often than we weaklings would like.
I suppose it is surprising to starry-eyed marxists who still buy into the collective bullshit of African anti-colonial revolution.
It's not bull shit buddy. You know little about how one set of people get over on another. If it's Islam, Judaism, Mao Red Guards, "Manifest Destiny", Christianity, Tutsis vs Hutus, Maxists, and all the other memes that drive a society there is bloodshed, there is a reason for it and it certainly not bull-shit.
If the enemy is fake or real it drives the people. Would you have bought the idea that Native Americans are heathens and need to be killed so your soul could be saved? (btw just in case it's not true - we had other things in mind)
if nations want to censor the internet, they should do it themselves. it would be funny to watch them realize the futility of attempting to stop information.
Even though this specific case is based on more general problems your statement still fits.
I am borderline on what some countries want to block. For example; personally I think that laws forbidding people to buy Nazi merchandise in France is wrong (I fully understand their issue which makes it even harder for me) but someone needs to make an effort to keep the French people from buying that merchandise. The only people that should be making that effort is the government who made the law.
Don't allow routing to the offending server, ask that mailing packages be marked if offending import laws, censor if you must! Just don't hold the rest of us responsible.
If anyone should be put on the town square and chastised it should be the inept Internet professionals that work in Zimbabwe. Maybe they need to add another law to their books: allow DNS entries for or route to an offending host and face up (to whatever punishment they love).
Rights to free speech don't exist everywhere and neither does governmental control of thought and speech.
If you break a law in another country then it is them who punishes you. If you break a law of let's say Sealand then no other nation has a right to punish you - that in fact could be seen as a challenge to a nations soverignty.
When are the sane people going to wisen up to the Internet? Have they all gone into hiding since '95?
Cybiko - it's not great, but they have done it.
... Can you... damn dropped call!"
Here is their site if you don't remember this POS. (I've never tried one... sounds cool but no one has one to hook up with)
The question is: Are we going to be seeing the verizon guy going around standing next to people on cell phones saying "Can you hear me now? Damn!
speaking of 'law'...
doesn't this marketing ploy used to scare people into buying McAfee products sound an awful lot like domestic policy here in the U.S.A?
... but this is "news for nerds. stuff that matters"
I thought about using NetFlix for movie rental when they first "arrived" (pop-ups) but instead I looked around locally.
I found that the best place to get movies in fact isn't on-line and it's free.
I simply go down to my local library and get movies, nerdy ones for free and can re-new over the computer. If I am late at least on the return I know at least that my fee goes to the library.
"Pop" movies are there and better than ever DOCUMENTARIES
Of course I know I'm just lucky:
telnet://catalog.cincinnatilibrary.org/
I've personally (off-topic) been looking for something that would play MP3 discs and hold about 50 or so CD's at once.
I've seen 150+ CD Players for as low as $99, how much for the same thing which will decode MP3 data discs?
It sure would be nice to have that library of MP3 discs (around 200, that is ~7 albums per CD (1400 CD's-all mine)) play... on random.
If this is a good question mod it up... it's only karma
Well if they don't fight until it's too late then they could jump on the bandwagon.
Why not run re-runs with this P2P idea? Even with commercials. (if the users fast foward then that is the users fault).
My point is that it doesn't have to be "us vs. them". They could benefit. TVLand branded Get Smart downloads would be fsckin' awsome - I don't care if a company has an interest.
The difference between pirates and non-pirates is the fact that the pirates don't want to be associated with a company and are thrown back by the idea that the establishment is behind anything. (Pirates don't even like each other. Look at history this idea even holds true for people who raided ships... they hated the queen/king and what that meme embodied.)
We can all work together to bad no one will.
as wong fei hung?
same character
Thank You! But at least I'm not an AC
*P.S. I've used this nick since about '95
Funny?
Of course I agree that those bands (?) aren't great but making fun of them is almost being a troll.
I mean, I don't like techno - I just don't find it appealing to my ear. Some would disagree, some wouldn't. Moderators should realize at least that ripping on a whole genre or a few "pop" artists isn't "cool".
Sorry to be harsh it's just that I've had this discussion a few days ago. Showing off how cool you are by "dissin'" pop artists is just silly.
Not directed at you.
I think you might be downloading html files or .url files (if you are a windows user).
I use Gnucleus to find CNN (and other news) footage plus a few "unreleased" tracks... no problems, no advertisments, no spyware.
Plus it's GPL'd
Very true (mee too!)
The gameplay of Super Mario World took me by storm and the 3D versions of Mario and Sonic don't compare.
3D means it's almost impossible to make those clutch jumps etc.
I think cool idea compared to your RBG or Composite out would be a USB or Firewire out. Hook up your next-gen handheld to your PC and viola... it's on your screen. The bandwidth on USB 2.0 and Firewire is enough and the games could even be played in a window while using the handheld as the controller (doesn't the GBA kind of do this now with the GC?)
The Dreamcast was/is cool because it had SEGA games that focused not on glitter but on games... the other two guys either pump out titles (sony) or focus on graphics (ms).
Why not UnitedHurd?
"On April 23 2002, Dr. Larry Thompson was tragically killed in an auto accident."
Unless this is a joke I feel sorry, and am sorry for the friends and family of this man... but dammit they can tell the future well!
"if you're participating in a sport with zero cost of entry, you're probably going to be out on a field with rednecks and other white trash."
...and if you are on a field playing a sport that takes a million to play you are likely not getting the competition you should. How un-sportsman-like?
It isn't the idea that you are locking out "the poorest" players - the problem is that you aren't likely to get "the best" players because the entry fee is so high.
Who wants to play with a bunch of inbreed snobs?
Of course you complain about spelling "a lot" as "alot" while you fail to capitalize your own sentences.
Only if they had this for the people in the last story they could not have had to lay so much fiber.