In a world without consequences, I think most people would be pretty fucking vicious.
Key point here: no consequences for both the aggressor and the victim.
If I do something mean to someone in a game, it takes place in that game. As soon as everyone quits playing, actions taken ingame cease to matter since it was just a game.
Societal norms are just rules that have been made up by society. Games have their own norms made up by the players. Different societies will often have norms so different that they consider each other to be evil. Applying a real life societies values to a game societies values is an apples to oranges comparison.
Perhaps I missed this, but it doesn't seem that TFA is reporting official results of a study -- it's just the anecdotal description of somebody who participated in a study that's been going on. All she says is: "I was Subject 26 in testing a living bacterial skin tonic." I don't think there's anything in TFA that mentions what control groups there may have been, nor does it imply that there were not any.
It'll be hilarious if it turns out that she was in the placebo group.
Another thing the OP might be interested in is P300 speller. It scans across a grid of letters and watches for the P300 response to fire off when your letter is highlighted.
We actually worked with an emotiv headset in a class on brain interfaces I took last semester. It's a cool concept, but it's no more than an expensive toy sold by a bunch of flashy marketeers.
The build quality on the headset is terrible. I bought the consumer edition about a year ago because it looked interesting. When I first got it, the front right sensor (I believe that's P2 in the 10 20 system) was broken right out of the box and it took 2 months from me putting in a ticket to getting the repaired headset back. When I finally got it back, the detection was disappointing compared to what they showed in their marketing material. Then when I took it out again for this class, after a few weeks the plastic bits on the removable part of the electrode that lock it to the sensor arm all started to break.
The one the school bought for the class was a research edition. Within a week of use, the front right sensor started to die the same as mine, and it was completely dead after 2 weeks. Then the plastic locking bits on the removable part of the electrode also started to go. The icing on the cake was when someone was putting it on their head as they and everyone else had normally been doing for half the semester and it literally snapped in two.
Physical complaints aside, the company is shady as hell. In some of their material, they show a video of a paraplegic guy wearing the headset and moving a mouse pointer around on his screen and typeing. It would have been great if they mentioned that he was just tilting his head slightly to use the gyro embedded in the back of the headset, and then blinking his eyes to click. Instead they fell just shy of false advertising by leaving the viewer with the implication that the guy was moving the mouse around with his brain.
Another hugely annoying thing is that there's literally no difference between the research edition and the consumer edition. There was actually some worry of mixing up my consumer one with the schools research one. The only thing that makes the research edition the research edition is the fact that it has firmware which doesn't scramble the raw data so that they can slap a $750 price tag on it rather than the 300 the consumer edition costs. The software licensing is also obnoxious in that they have so many different versions of things, and their documentation of the APIs is quite bad.
Not gonna help you avoid road obstacles, or even do much more than really general navigation. Also jammable.
rotary encoders
Again, not going to help you much at avoiding things unless they're things that you saw before being jammed.
inertial sensors.
depends on how accurate they are, but that goes into the same category as rotary encoders in terms of avoiding things.
The LIDAR is usually infrared, rather than the RF used in RADAR.
Yeah, did the term "LIDAR" give it away?
Since your jammer would have to be high powered direct line-of-sight, and SDCs record sensor data, tracing the source would be easy.
It doesn't have to be very high powered at all, not does it need to be a brute force DOS attack. I bet there are plenty of ways of spoofing it to think there's something there that isn't, or otherwise give it bad data about an object. And tracing doesn't help you at all if it's a small object someone placed next to the road the night before your morning commute, and then collected again shortly after you crashed into a ditch.
Even if you shut down all the sensors, the car would apply the brakes, and pull off the road.
Which would really suck if there was actually no road there.
It is conceivable that you could kill someone, but it would require quite a bit of technology, planning, and luck. It would be much easier to buy a gun and shoot them in the head as they drive past (in either a normal car or an SDC).
A more apt analogy would be to say that it would be easier to saw most of the way through their tie rods or to poke holes in their brake cables. The point was to discuss this as a new angle of sabotage on top of the already crazy things that one can do with the electronics in modern cars, not to figure out the most effective way of killing someone.
Exactly, just a lot more subtle and the responses will be easily replicable.
If I want to see how shining my lights and honking at someone will affect their driving, I'd need to either do it to them personally or make a guess as to how they might act in response. If I want to see how it works with someones self driving car, all I need to do is obtain their model of car and an empty parking lot with which to test. Then if I find out through testing that the self driving cars reaction to having its LIDAR blinded with light outside of the visible spectrum is to hit the brakes and move to the right for example, and then find a spot where that exact response is exactly the wrong thing to do.
but personally I'm more worried about asshats who will purposefully try cloak their cars so that the automated sensors can't even see them at all, just in some misguided attempt to try to prove self-driving cars as unsafe to protect "muh freedomz!"
Screw passive cloaking, lets see how well that self driving sensor package works when getting hit full in the face with some broad spectrum jamming.
Depending on how well driverless cars handle that sort of thing (and how well they can trace any jamming back to the source), I could imagine jamming might replace sawing partway through the tie rods or poking holes in the brake line as the hip new way for arranging accidents for inconvenient people.
It's because you don't have the controller setup properly on the host PC. I have a little logitech PS3 controller clone that requires the x360ce program in order for most games to recognize it. During the beta I noticed that a game that worked on my htpc didn't work when streaming it from my desktop. I added the x360ce stuff to my desktop (which has never had a controller plugged into it) and installed the controller drivers there and that fixed it.
Me neither, and I hate laugh tracks in sitcoms. I'm smart enough to know when to laugh and when not to laugh thank you. I don't need an audience (live or otherwise) prompting me.
The Tesla Model S sounds like a tank. I needs a tank to traverse these pot-hole-riddled roadways. Where's the ammunition stored?
The combination of low profile tires + being low to the ground just doesn't handle that kind of stuff very well. You'd probably have to raise the suspension a little and replace the wheels with something that can handle higher sidewalls. I have a friend who owns one and he's had to replace two of the wheels (the entire metal wheel, not the tire) due to hitting fist sized rocks in the middle of the road that bent the rim. I'd imagine that a pothole might have the same effect.
that just means you need symbols to represent larger blocks. even electronics does this. nobody writes out amplifiers anymore, they use a single symbol now.
This is like kidnap or a mugging. At no point do I have an actual incentive to give in to such a person's demands. "We won't hurt you / them / your website if you do X". I have *absolutely* no guarantee of that.
I *cannot* win. If I do everything you request, you could still trash my domain / stab me anyway / kill your hostage and there's nothing I can do to stop that.
If he wanted to trash your domain, he'd have already trashed it. Why risk letting you contact customer support and freeze everything until the identity thing could be sorted out. By not wrecking it straight away (and also offering to help secure it later), he was signaling that he was interested in actual reward, rather than just breaking stuff for the fun of it. Plus, trashing it after the fact just out of spite is bad for future "business" for him.
As a resident of california, I'm deeply sorry for the crap we're inflicting on the rest of the country due to constantly re-electing her.
Though in our defense, the districts are so jerrymandered and the politicians have special interest and underhanded politics (redistricting bill has a hope of passing? quick! introduce a fake one that lets us control the redistricting and confuse people with it!) down to such a science that most people have just given up.
Empathy clashes with survivalist instinct. I can gnaw on the bones of a cow and feel empathy for it, but that doesn't mean im going to stop eating meat. At the base level, our brains see nothing wrong with killing these animals for food. We are the stronger species, we win. Empathy is evolutionarily expensive.
You don't have to feel bad about eating meat to feel empathy for the animal. Some of the older guys in my boy scout troop got to do some basic SEAR training for a weekend at camp pendleton. One of the things was killing/preparing/cooking/eating a rabbit. No one really felt bad about it, and most described their feelings as something more along the lines of gratefulness to the rabbit for providing them with food that night.
I don't even think it's an intelligence thing (lots of food mammals, especially pigs, are "smart"). It's more of the way that the slaughter is conducted.
When we slaughter cows and pigs, great care is generally taken to ensure that not only is the animal is killed quickly and humanely, but that the animal remains calm throughout the process leading up to it. Contrast with the dolphin slaughter: they drive the dolphins into the cove by sticking pipes into the water and hammering on them in order to work the dolphins into a panic so that they run from what to them looks like a wall of sound. Then they're kept in the bay for some time while they hurt themselves trying to escape. A lot of engineering goes into the holding areas for cows and pigs to ensure that they aren't injured while being moved around.
And finally, dolphin meat is rather sketchy as a product for human consumption. Because of the nature of what they eat (dolphins are pretty high up on the food chain), dolphin meat contains significantly higher amounts of mercury than other fish (and apparently doesn't even taste that great to most people).
So now you've got unnecessary cruelty to a cute and intelligent animal for meat of dubious fitness for human consumption. It's basically a slam dunk case with plenty for everyone to object to, from the "save the baby seals because they're cute" crowd to members of the People for the Eating of Tasty Animals club.
Even in complete vacuum it takes ~10 seconds to lose consciousness. That's plenty of time to flip a bunch of switches and mess with the controls, especially if you've trained in the procedure 1000s of times.
Luck still has a lot to do with it. The sweat of your brow alone will only get you so far. No excuses for the folks that aren't reaching for better, but there's a reason it's called a "trap"
The luckhard work equation is the same as the moneyhappiness equation. Money doesn't bring happiness and luck doesn't bring success. But in the same way that money can act as a multiplier for happiness, luck acts as a multiplier on hard work.
What I was getting at with my previous comment is that americans as a collective don't actually care enough/aren't collectively smart enough to make the government answer to anything. They're more interested in whatever celebrity drama or other thing to be outraged about that the news media feels like manufacturing to get more ratings. The system is stacked towards maintaining the current status quo. If they ever do get riled up enough to do something, it's rarely something that some political sleight of hand can't fix.
To imply that it's a handful of the elite calling the shots is not only nutjob territory, but it makes no sense. If it was a handful of people in the background, we'd see things working a bit smoother. Content people have no reason to revolt and upset the status quo.
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In a world without consequences, I think most people would be pretty fucking vicious.
Key point here: no consequences for both the aggressor and the victim.
If I do something mean to someone in a game, it takes place in that game. As soon as everyone quits playing, actions taken ingame cease to matter since it was just a game.
Societal norms are just rules that have been made up by society. Games have their own norms made up by the players. Different societies will often have norms so different that they consider each other to be evil. Applying a real life societies values to a game societies values is an apples to oranges comparison.
For example, I use hair style, clothing, and height
And then one day they radically change their hair stye and wear a new outfit, causing hilarity to ensue.
Cue people responding with bad, successful ideas. (Seriously, I'm interested).
Star Wars prequels.
Perhaps I missed this, but it doesn't seem that TFA is reporting official results of a study -- it's just the anecdotal description of somebody who participated in a study that's been going on. All she says is: "I was Subject 26 in testing a living bacterial skin tonic." I don't think there's anything in TFA that mentions what control groups there may have been, nor does it imply that there were not any.
It'll be hilarious if it turns out that she was in the placebo group.
Another thing the OP might be interested in is P300 speller. It scans across a grid of letters and watches for the P300 response to fire off when your letter is highlighted.
We actually worked with an emotiv headset in a class on brain interfaces I took last semester. It's a cool concept, but it's no more than an expensive toy sold by a bunch of flashy marketeers.
The build quality on the headset is terrible. I bought the consumer edition about a year ago because it looked interesting. When I first got it, the front right sensor (I believe that's P2 in the 10 20 system) was broken right out of the box and it took 2 months from me putting in a ticket to getting the repaired headset back. When I finally got it back, the detection was disappointing compared to what they showed in their marketing material. Then when I took it out again for this class, after a few weeks the plastic bits on the removable part of the electrode that lock it to the sensor arm all started to break.
The one the school bought for the class was a research edition. Within a week of use, the front right sensor started to die the same as mine, and it was completely dead after 2 weeks. Then the plastic locking bits on the removable part of the electrode also started to go. The icing on the cake was when someone was putting it on their head as they and everyone else had normally been doing for half the semester and it literally snapped in two.
Physical complaints aside, the company is shady as hell. In some of their material, they show a video of a paraplegic guy wearing the headset and moving a mouse pointer around on his screen and typeing. It would have been great if they mentioned that he was just tilting his head slightly to use the gyro embedded in the back of the headset, and then blinking his eyes to click. Instead they fell just shy of false advertising by leaving the viewer with the implication that the guy was moving the mouse around with his brain.
Another hugely annoying thing is that there's literally no difference between the research edition and the consumer edition. There was actually some worry of mixing up my consumer one with the schools research one. The only thing that makes the research edition the research edition is the fact that it has firmware which doesn't scramble the raw data so that they can slap a $750 price tag on it rather than the 300 the consumer edition costs. The software licensing is also obnoxious in that they have so many different versions of things, and their documentation of the APIs is quite bad.
GPS
Not gonna help you avoid road obstacles, or even do much more than really general navigation. Also jammable.
rotary encoders
Again, not going to help you much at avoiding things unless they're things that you saw before being jammed.
inertial sensors.
depends on how accurate they are, but that goes into the same category as rotary encoders in terms of avoiding things.
The LIDAR is usually infrared, rather than the RF used in RADAR.
Yeah, did the term "LIDAR" give it away?
Since your jammer would have to be high powered direct line-of-sight, and SDCs record sensor data, tracing the source would be easy.
It doesn't have to be very high powered at all, not does it need to be a brute force DOS attack. I bet there are plenty of ways of spoofing it to think there's something there that isn't, or otherwise give it bad data about an object. And tracing doesn't help you at all if it's a small object someone placed next to the road the night before your morning commute, and then collected again shortly after you crashed into a ditch.
Even if you shut down all the sensors, the car would apply the brakes, and pull off the road.
Which would really suck if there was actually no road there.
It is conceivable that you could kill someone, but it would require quite a bit of technology, planning, and luck. It would be much easier to buy a gun and shoot them in the head as they drive past (in either a normal car or an SDC).
A more apt analogy would be to say that it would be easier to saw most of the way through their tie rods or to poke holes in their brake cables. The point was to discuss this as a new angle of sabotage on top of the already crazy things that one can do with the electronics in modern cars, not to figure out the most effective way of killing someone.
Exactly, just a lot more subtle and the responses will be easily replicable.
If I want to see how shining my lights and honking at someone will affect their driving, I'd need to either do it to them personally or make a guess as to how they might act in response. If I want to see how it works with someones self driving car, all I need to do is obtain their model of car and an empty parking lot with which to test. Then if I find out through testing that the self driving cars reaction to having its LIDAR blinded with light outside of the visible spectrum is to hit the brakes and move to the right for example, and then find a spot where that exact response is exactly the wrong thing to do.
but personally I'm more worried about asshats who will purposefully try cloak their cars so that the automated sensors can't even see them at all, just in some misguided attempt to try to prove self-driving cars as unsafe to protect "muh freedomz!"
Screw passive cloaking, lets see how well that self driving sensor package works when getting hit full in the face with some broad spectrum jamming.
Depending on how well driverless cars handle that sort of thing (and how well they can trace any jamming back to the source), I could imagine jamming might replace sawing partway through the tie rods or poking holes in the brake line as the hip new way for arranging accidents for inconvenient people.
It's because you don't have the controller setup properly on the host PC. I have a little logitech PS3 controller clone that requires the x360ce program in order for most games to recognize it. During the beta I noticed that a game that worked on my htpc didn't work when streaming it from my desktop. I added the x360ce stuff to my desktop (which has never had a controller plugged into it) and installed the controller drivers there and that fixed it.
Me neither, and I hate laugh tracks in sitcoms. I'm smart enough to know when to laugh and when not to laugh thank you. I don't need an audience (live or otherwise) prompting me.
The Tesla Model S sounds like a tank. I needs a tank to traverse these pot-hole-riddled roadways. Where's the ammunition stored?
The combination of low profile tires + being low to the ground just doesn't handle that kind of stuff very well. You'd probably have to raise the suspension a little and replace the wheels with something that can handle higher sidewalls. I have a friend who owns one and he's had to replace two of the wheels (the entire metal wheel, not the tire) due to hitting fist sized rocks in the middle of the road that bent the rim. I'd imagine that a pothole might have the same effect.
that just means you need symbols to represent larger blocks. even electronics does this. nobody writes out amplifiers anymore, they use a single symbol now.
symbolsLibrary.drawOpAmp();
This is like kidnap or a mugging. At no point do I have an actual incentive to give in to such a person's demands. "We won't hurt you / them / your website if you do X". I have *absolutely* no guarantee of that.
I *cannot* win. If I do everything you request, you could still trash my domain / stab me anyway / kill your hostage and there's nothing I can do to stop that.
If he wanted to trash your domain, he'd have already trashed it. Why risk letting you contact customer support and freeze everything until the identity thing could be sorted out. By not wrecking it straight away (and also offering to help secure it later), he was signaling that he was interested in actual reward, rather than just breaking stuff for the fun of it. Plus, trashing it after the fact just out of spite is bad for future "business" for him.
As a resident of california, I'm deeply sorry for the crap we're inflicting on the rest of the country due to constantly re-electing her.
Though in our defense, the districts are so jerrymandered and the politicians have special interest and underhanded politics (redistricting bill has a hope of passing? quick! introduce a fake one that lets us control the redistricting and confuse people with it!) down to such a science that most people have just given up.
Empathy clashes with survivalist instinct. I can gnaw on the bones of a cow and feel empathy for it, but that doesn't mean im going to stop eating meat. At the base level, our brains see nothing wrong with killing these animals for food. We are the stronger species, we win. Empathy is evolutionarily expensive.
You don't have to feel bad about eating meat to feel empathy for the animal. Some of the older guys in my boy scout troop got to do some basic SEAR training for a weekend at camp pendleton. One of the things was killing/preparing/cooking/eating a rabbit. No one really felt bad about it, and most described their feelings as something more along the lines of gratefulness to the rabbit for providing them with food that night.
I don't even think it's an intelligence thing (lots of food mammals, especially pigs, are "smart"). It's more of the way that the slaughter is conducted.
When we slaughter cows and pigs, great care is generally taken to ensure that not only is the animal is killed quickly and humanely, but that the animal remains calm throughout the process leading up to it. Contrast with the dolphin slaughter: they drive the dolphins into the cove by sticking pipes into the water and hammering on them in order to work the dolphins into a panic so that they run from what to them looks like a wall of sound. Then they're kept in the bay for some time while they hurt themselves trying to escape. A lot of engineering goes into the holding areas for cows and pigs to ensure that they aren't injured while being moved around.
And finally, dolphin meat is rather sketchy as a product for human consumption. Because of the nature of what they eat (dolphins are pretty high up on the food chain), dolphin meat contains significantly higher amounts of mercury than other fish (and apparently doesn't even taste that great to most people).
So now you've got unnecessary cruelty to a cute and intelligent animal for meat of dubious fitness for human consumption. It's basically a slam dunk case with plenty for everyone to object to, from the "save the baby seals because they're cute" crowd to members of the People for the Eating of Tasty Animals club.
Even in complete vacuum it takes ~10 seconds to lose consciousness. That's plenty of time to flip a bunch of switches and mess with the controls, especially if you've trained in the procedure 1000s of times.
Luck still has a lot to do with it. The sweat of your brow alone will only get you so far. No excuses for the folks that aren't reaching for better, but there's a reason it's called a "trap"
The luckhard work equation is the same as the moneyhappiness equation. Money doesn't bring happiness and luck doesn't bring success. But in the same way that money can act as a multiplier for happiness, luck acts as a multiplier on hard work.
Being a san diego resident, I didn't even blink at $304
"Long lost civilization" here means 1700s New England farms, it's not a discovery that Native Americans were building saw mills or anything.
I misread the headline as "lasers unearthed in Lost 'Agropolis' of New England and had done even better than mills.
What I was getting at with my previous comment is that americans as a collective don't actually care enough/aren't collectively smart enough to make the government answer to anything. They're more interested in whatever celebrity drama or other thing to be outraged about that the news media feels like manufacturing to get more ratings. The system is stacked towards maintaining the current status quo. If they ever do get riled up enough to do something, it's rarely something that some political sleight of hand can't fix.
To imply that it's a handful of the elite calling the shots is not only nutjob territory, but it makes no sense. If it was a handful of people in the background, we'd see things working a bit smoother. Content people have no reason to revolt and upset the status quo.
Theoretically at least, the US Government has to answer to its citizens
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I'm out of mod points :(
Whats the difference here? Surely robots don't kill people, people kill people?
I'm pretty sure that the difference here is that the robots actually will be killing the people.
How hard is it for a government to cover up a helicopter attack on its own citizens vs covering up the thug squad making examples of a few people?